[ POLL ] The Unification Fight: FURY vs USYK 17th FEBRUARY 2024 - page 15.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on May 19, 2024, 05:05:33 AM

Wtf happened in round 9 ? Why on earth that ref jumped between them and stop Usyk from TKOing Fury? I have noticed several time, that ref wanted to jump between them when Usyk was pushing forward and was about to make a series of punches. That ref interfered more than did something useful.

In conclusion - Fury went with one of his best forms, but still lose. I remember they have a rematch, then during it Usyk would TKO Fury for sure. First loss for Fury, knowing his mental problems, it definitely going to leave a mark and be advantage for Usyk in their next fight.

When the referee stopped the fight in the 9th round, I was almost sure that he was stopping the fight, but it turned out to be some kind of crap. It’s good that in the end it didn’t help Fury and in the end there wasn’t any surprise, like a draw, although I wouldn’t be surprised by that. I think no one has any doubt that Usyk won this fight, the advantage was too obvious, I think Fury also agrees with this, but of course he had to say that he thinks that he won. He will want a rematch in any case, this is a lot of money that he cannot refuse.

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Wtf happened in round 9 ? Why on earth that ref jumped between them and stop Usyk from TKOing Fury? I have noticed several time, that ref wanted to jump between them when Usyk was pushing forward and was about to make a series of punches. That ref interfered more than did something useful.

In conclusion - Fury went with one of his best forms, but still lose. I remember they have a rematch, then during it Usyk would TKO Fury for sure. First loss for Fury, knowing his mental problems, it definitely going to leave a mark and be advantage for Usyk in their next fight.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on May 18, 2024, 08:22:44 PM

A new trilogy opened for these 2 fighters indeed. A rematch is almost expected on this one, but Fury must win on their rematch or else, we are seeing a new king in the heavyweight division.

Before the fight there were two kings of the heavyweight division and now there is just one. Whether we agree with the judges scorecards or not we all have now already seen history being made. A trilogy is not needed, the rematch is enough to settle this.

If Fury or Usyk (or both) opt to retire before their rematch that is a decision they will consider after discussions with their team but the rematch will bring them even more money than the first fight.

Quote from: inthelongrun on May 19, 2024, 01:51:51 AM

Usyk had 3 belts compared to Fury's 1 but he walked first and was also introduced first. But maybe they're one of Fury's dozens of demands just to make this undisputed fight.

I do not think it was even a matter of demands. Fury held the WBC belt which historically is the belt that has the most value and historical association. It was never going to be debatable as to which boxer would walk in to the ring second.

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Quote from: bakasabo on May 19, 2024, 03:39:59 AM

First thing I would like to say, that Usyk won that fight fair. There were no judges help, there were no political help. A true undisputed champion. I dont remember anyone holding all the belts recently. One thing I dont understand that why it is a win by split decision, but not a majority decision. I believe that maximum what Fury achieved was a draw. If there were no standing knockdown, then it might be a chance that one judge would be in Fury favor.

Yes he couldn't make it if Fury was more careful and didn't allow that shot that hurt him and made him go knock down. That was a great fight in overall but Fury IMO deserve a rematch here. Take that knock down and Fury could have won the fight easily. Anyway, that happened and we have to respect the result, what I like about Fury is that he respected the result, he is a good sport unlike other boxers who claimed they won after not declaring them the winner.

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First thing I would like to say, that Usyk won that fight fair. There were no judges help, there were no political help. A true undisputed champion. I dont remember anyone holding all the belts recently. One thing I dont understand that why it is a win by split decision, but not a majority decision. I believe that maximum what Fury achieved was a draw. If there were no standing knockdown, then it might be a chance that one judge would be in Fury favor.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on May 18, 2024, 11:27:13 PM

@LogitechMouse. I am not very optimistic on Tyson Fury's chance of having the victory on this immediate rematch on October. He was knocked down by Usyk who is smaller and who does not have much power on his punches? Also, why did Tyson stop the uppercuts to the body? It was beginning to disrupt Usyk on round 7! Yes, this result of this was quite a shock and also certainly a disappointment for the fans of Mike Tyson Fury!

Despite the fact that Usyk is shorter, his blow is strong enough, otherwise he would not have been able to decorate Fury like that in the 9th round. And when Fury started hitting the body in the 5th round, the result was immediately visible, how bad Usiki was in the next round. In general, Usik’s advantage was obvious, and in the ninth round the referee saved Fury from a knockout, it is unclear why he stopped the fight, everything could have ended earlier.

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What a fight! But I noticed Usyk seemed disrespected and a lot are trying to save the more marketable fighter from losing. Usyk had 3 belts compared to Fury's 1 but he walked first and was also introduced first. But maybe they're one of Fury's dozens of demands just to make this undisputed fight. The referee saved Fury in round 9. And a judge had it 113-114 for Fury? It was a close fight but there was a clear winner. I had it 115-112 for Usyk as well.

So here is the compubox stats of the fight.

Power shots have more value than those jabs of course. And if we're going to score it based on the stats it is an easy 116-111 for Usyk. But Usyk does not have a huge fan base and is not a big PPV fighter which is why he needs to win fights convincingly when he is against fighters with huge economic value.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on May 18, 2024, 11:27:13 PM

@LogitechMouse. I am not very optimistic on Tyson Fury's chance of having the victory on this immediate rematch on October. He was knocked down by Usyk who is smaller and who does not have much power on his punches? Also, why did Tyson stop the uppercuts to the body? It was beginning to disrupt Usyk on round 7! Yes, this result of this was quite a shock and also certainly a disappointment for the fans of Mike Tyson Fury!

It will still be the same result in the rematch. Usyk clearly is the better fighter. Does anybody notice the ref counts too long in favor of Fury?

The knockdown should play a big part in the score but in the end, the score says the fight is close. This is all a shitshow and they wanna do it again and if they are doing this in Saudi again, they really are shameless.

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@LogitechMouse. I am not very optimistic on Tyson Fury's chance of having the victory on this immediate rematch on October. He was knocked down by Usyk who is smaller and who does not have much power on his punches? Also, why did Tyson stop the uppercuts to the body? It was beginning to disrupt Usyk on round 7! Yes, this result of this was quite a shock and also certainly a disappointment for the fans of Mike Tyson Fury!

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Quote from: JollyGood on May 18, 2024, 07:05:30 PM

Frank Warren has stated that Fury immediately wanted to activate the rematch clause and the fight will go ahead in October. That is right, as it currently stands Fury and Usyk will have to fight all over again. Going by the spectacle witnessed today, the rematch could go either way. If Fury wins, there will not be a new rematch clause inserted therefore if there were to be a trilogy it would have to be negotiated separately.

Congratulations to Usyk and well done to Fury for saying they will fight each other again after 5 months Grin

No surprise TBH.
The fact that it ended as a split decision despite him getting knocked down in the 9th round. Like you said, it's hard to pick who is the winner on this fight.

The feeling of you might've defended the belt, but you just got knocked down in the 9th round and got outboxed by a smaller fighter like Usyk. That's what Fury is feeling right now. A new trilogy opened for these 2 fighters indeed. A rematch is almost expected on this one, but Fury must win on their rematch or else, we are seeing a new king in the heavyweight division.

Congratulations to both fighters. For sure, fans loved this match that made history.

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I just read that Drake had money on Tyson Fury to win this fight. How many gambling losses is that in a row for Drake now on big events? How much would you be up if you bet against Drake and let your winnings ride? Seems like maybe Drake is the Jim Cramer of gambling. Do the opposite of what he does and enjoy the ride.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on May 18, 2024, 06:58:40 PM

Great fight. I would give it something like 7/5 to Usyk. Fury did well to recover after the knockdown but he was saved by the ropes and the bell but won a couple of the later rounds. One of the judges giving it to Fury needs to be investigated. Even a draw would have been controversial. I'm looking forward to the rematch in October. Fury needs to go for broke in that. I thought Fury was taking the loss well until he said he thought he won and Usyk probably got some sympathy votes from the judges because of the war. Just say it was close but you were narrowly beaten by the better man and you'll look to avenge the loss in the rematch. He would have gained so many fans back if he said something like that.

A draw wasn’t out of the realm of possibility. People always feel like there needs to be a clear cut winner and that it should be in favor of their preferred fighter. There is always going to be a degree of subjectivity, and when they are so evenly matched there will never be 100% consensus. Watching it live, I scored it a draw, (6 rounds Fury, 5 rounds Usyk, 1 round even, and a knockdown in Usyk’s favor).

Fury didn’t need to bring up the military conflict in Ukraine, but anybody who loses a close decision would look for anything to grasp onto. There is definitely a strong pro-Ukranian bias from some in the boxing media, but this wasn’t why Fury lost a decision. He should instead reflect on his mistakes and how he can fix them. He might be declining, but he’s still capable of winning the rematch.

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Quote from: JollyGood on May 18, 2024, 07:05:30 PM

Frank Warren has stated that Fury immediately wanted to activate the rematch clause and the fight will go ahead in October. That is right, as it currently stands Fury and Usyk will have to fight all over again. Going by the spectacle witnessed today, the rematch could go either way. If Fury wins, there will not be a new rematch clause inserted therefore if there were to be a trilogy it would have to be negotiated separately.

Congratulations to Usyk and well done to Fury for saying they will fight each other again after 5 months Grin

Does anyone want to see this fight run back again? I don’t. I think Fury is done. Francis showed that he’s no goat and now he’s being thrown to the wolves. I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t win another fight and retires. He’s only hurting his legacy from this point. I’m a little surprised the fight didn’t get called in the 9th round when it was clear Fury was out on his feet…

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Frank Warren has stated that Fury immediately wanted to activate the rematch clause and the fight will go ahead in October. That is right, as it currently stands Fury and Usyk will have to fight all over again. Going by the spectacle witnessed today, the rematch could go either way. If Fury wins, there will not be a new rematch clause inserted therefore if there were to be a trilogy it would have to be negotiated separately.

Congratulations to Usyk and well done to Fury for saying they will fight each other again after 5 months Grin

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Great fight. I would give it something like 7/5 to Usyk. Fury did well to recover after the knockdown but he was saved by the ropes and the bell but won a couple of the later rounds. One of the judges giving it to Fury needs to be investigated. Even a draw would have been controversial. I'm looking forward to the rematch in October. Fury needs to go for broke in that. I thought Fury was taking the loss well until he said he thought he won and Usyk probably got some sympathy votes from the judges because of the war. Just say it was close but you were narrowly beaten by the better man and you'll look to avenge the loss in the rematch. He would have gained so many fans back if he said something like that.

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Never seen fury so hurt, he even did well to recover because those sets of punches could have knocked out any regular boxer.

I think when Wilder knocked him down was a worse knockdown. Fury was spark out for a few seconds but came back from the dead.

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Full credit to both boxers.

In the end Fury survived that battering in round 9 and took the fight to 12 rounds but he could have stepped up to finish the fight when he had the chance. Instead he allowed Usyk back in to the fight. Similarly, it was Usyk that started the fight on top but Fury countered in round 3.

The way Fury dominated in round 4 reminded me of the Fury of old with arrogance as well as brilliance but overall, I honestly could not choose a winner at the end of round 12 because for me it was a draw.

Either way, what a fantastic way for both Fury and Usyk to make history.

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It wouldn’t be a Tyson Fury fight if he didn’t get badly hurt. He did manage to recover, like he often does, but this time around it wasn’t enough and this was the key to Usyk’s victory. Fury seemed to be in control of the fight up until that point, but Usyk maintained his discipline and was looking for any mistake he could take advantage of. Fury’s carelessness and his cockiness came back to bite him. Once Usyk hurt him, he never relented and swept the final rounds on my scorecard.

The fight will likely be remembered for Fury getting badly hurt, but it was a great fight with good moments for both fighters. There will probably be a rematch, which I expect will be very competitive as well. Fury still has exceptional talent but his resistance has deteriorated further. If he cannot win the rematch, it would be better for him to retire rather than continue to take damage.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on May 18, 2024, 05:34:05 PM

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Fury started very well, but Usyk became turned on as the fight went on, and he was able to hurt Fury in the worst possible way. Never seen fury so hurt, he even did well to recover because those sets of punches could have knocked out any regular boxer.

Usyk becomes the new undisputed heavyweight champion of the world!!!

Very well deserved!

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The winner of this fight will be stripped later of the IBF belt due to its failure to defend to its mandatory. IBF mandatory Filip Hrgovic will finally get the chance to win the belt against Daniel Dubois. So it means that the winner of the rematch between Usyk and Furywill not be undisputed anymore.

Usyk as always looked focused. He is giving up a lot of weight and reach so it will be very interesting how Usyk can solve this puzzle. I still think Usyk is faster with his hands and foot work. The referee plays a major role here and hopefully he won't allow Fury's dirty tactics.

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This fight is an historic event therefore it is understandable there will be some degree of interest in this thread but I am somewhat disappointed at the number of votes. With the number of pages in this thread and the number of posts made here, it is surprising that only 20 votes have been cast:

Fury - 14 (70%)
Usyk - 6 (30%)
Draw - 0 (0%)

Fury and Usyk have a two-fight and keeping that in mind I would not be surprised if there is a winner announced by the judges in their first meeting and then a draw announced in the second meeting.

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