Congratulations to Usyk and well done to Fury for saying they will fight each other again after 5 months
Topic: [ POLL ] The Unification Fight: FURY vs USYK 17th FEBRUARY 2024 - page 18. (Read 5484 times)
Frank Warren has stated that Fury immediately wanted to activate the rematch clause and the fight will go ahead in October. That is right, as it currently stands Fury and Usyk will have to fight all over again. Going by the spectacle witnessed today, the rematch could go either way. If Fury wins, there will not be a new rematch clause inserted therefore if there were to be a trilogy it would have to be negotiated separately.
Congratulations to Usyk and well done to Fury for saying they will fight each other again after 5 months
Congratulations to Usyk and well done to Fury for saying they will fight each other again after 5 months
Great fight. I would give it something like 7/5 to Usyk. Fury did well to recover after the knockdown but he was saved by the ropes and the bell but won a couple of the later rounds. One of the judges giving it to Fury needs to be investigated. Even a draw would have been controversial. I'm looking forward to the rematch in October. Fury needs to go for broke in that. I thought Fury was taking the loss well until he said he thought he won and Usyk probably got some sympathy votes from the judges because of the war. Just say it was close but you were narrowly beaten by the better man and you'll look to avenge the loss in the rematch. He would have gained so many fans back if he said something like that.
I think when Wilder knocked him down was a worse knockdown. Fury was spark out for a few seconds but came back from the dead.
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Never seen fury so hurt, he even did well to recover because those sets of punches could have knocked out any regular boxer. I think when Wilder knocked him down was a worse knockdown. Fury was spark out for a few seconds but came back from the dead.
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Full credit to both boxers.
In the end Fury survived that battering in round 9 and took the fight to 12 rounds but he could have stepped up to finish the fight when he had the chance. Instead he allowed Usyk back in to the fight. Similarly, it was Usyk that started the fight on top but Fury countered in round 3.
The way Fury dominated in round 4 reminded me of the Fury of old with arrogance as well as brilliance but overall, I honestly could not choose a winner at the end of round 12 because for me it was a draw.
Either way, what a fantastic way for both Fury and Usyk to make history.
It wouldn’t be a Tyson Fury fight if he didn’t get badly hurt. He did manage to recover, like he often does, but this time around it wasn’t enough and this was the key to Usyk’s victory. Fury seemed to be in control of the fight up until that point, but Usyk maintained his discipline and was looking for any mistake he could take advantage of. Fury’s carelessness and his cockiness came back to bite him. Once Usyk hurt him, he never relented and swept the final rounds on my scorecard.
The fight will likely be remembered for Fury getting badly hurt, but it was a great fight with good moments for both fighters. There will probably be a rematch, which I expect will be very competitive as well. Fury still has exceptional talent but his resistance has deteriorated further. If he cannot win the rematch, it would be better for him to retire rather than continue to take damage.
The fight will likely be remembered for Fury getting badly hurt, but it was a great fight with good moments for both fighters. There will probably be a rematch, which I expect will be very competitive as well. Fury still has exceptional talent but his resistance has deteriorated further. If he cannot win the rematch, it would be better for him to retire rather than continue to take damage.
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Fury started very well, but Usyk became turned on as the fight went on, and he was able to hurt Fury in the worst possible way. Never seen fury so hurt, he even did well to recover because those sets of punches could have knocked out any regular boxer. Usyk becomes the new undisputed heavyweight champion of the world!!!
Very well deserved!
The winner of this fight will be stripped later of the IBF belt due to its failure to defend to its mandatory. IBF mandatory Filip Hrgovic will finally get the chance to win the belt against Daniel Dubois. So it means that the winner of the rematch between Usyk and Furywill not be undisputed anymore.
Usyk as always looked focused. He is giving up a lot of weight and reach so it will be very interesting how Usyk can solve this puzzle. I still think Usyk is faster with his hands and foot work. The referee plays a major role here and hopefully he won't allow Fury's dirty tactics.
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Usyk as always looked focused. He is giving up a lot of weight and reach so it will be very interesting how Usyk can solve this puzzle. I still think Usyk is faster with his hands and foot work. The referee plays a major role here and hopefully he won't allow Fury's dirty tactics.
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This fight is an historic event therefore it is understandable there will be some degree of interest in this thread but I am somewhat disappointed at the number of votes. With the number of pages in this thread and the number of posts made here, it is surprising that only 20 votes have been cast:
Fury - 14 (70%)
Usyk - 6 (30%)
Draw - 0 (0%)
Fury and Usyk have a two-fight and keeping that in mind I would not be surprised if there is a winner announced by the judges in their first meeting and then a draw announced in the second meeting.
Fury - 14 (70%)
Usyk - 6 (30%)
Draw - 0 (0%)
Fury and Usyk have a two-fight and keeping that in mind I would not be surprised if there is a winner announced by the judges in their first meeting and then a draw announced in the second meeting.
You can say that Fury was unprepared against Francis, but you cannot predict his performance in this fight based on that fight. Against Usyk, Fury will be well prepared, knowing that his opponent is not a first-time boxer and that the fight is a big chance to make history in one of the biggest rivalries. I like both fighters and still have not been able to settle on the one I like to win, so I will just be enjoying the fight because it will surely be entertaining.
Fury totally avoided the staredown during their last press conference, looking away from Usyk's eyes during the staredown. Fury said
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He must have avoided eye contact to maintain the confidence he has in his abilities.
I don't know, Fury is actually very cunning and that's why he manages to stay on top for so long. He fully lives up to his name, like a clever gypsy who always finds a way out of any situation.Fury totally avoided the staredown during their last press conference, looking away from Usyk's eyes during the staredown. Fury said
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"He's a scary looking dude,"
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He must have avoided eye contact to maintain the confidence he has in his abilities.
In addition, he has a very strong punch and strong willpower, remember the fight with Wilder, when he got up every time. Now Wilder is not taken so seriously, because after the last fights you can see how bad his defense is, it was spectacular, but at the same time stupid.
Fury is a very, very experienced fighter, although he looked very bad in the fight with Ngannou, but this could served as a good tip for him, and he prepared more thoroughly for the fight with Usik. I think that he was dragging out this fight for a reason, waiting until he was completely physically ready to withstand all 12 rounds.
Having a weight advantage is definitely beneficial. If it weren’t, we wouldn’t see so many fighters try to negotiate a catchweight or a rehydration clause when they have to fight somebody who is bigger.
Since weight has an advantage, I think Fury will be the winner of the fight.
I think the match is some hours to come. Fury has remain unbeatable and I read that Usyk has been unbeatable also but we all respect the more success of Fury. I would wish someone among them should become the winner of this coming match. If anyone among them would be the winner, I will say the unbeatable days of Fury is over as I guess that Usyk would be able to defeat him today. I go for Usyk.
^^ I will go as well with Fury winning in a very close fight, a decision win could be UD or MD, 8-4 rounds for Fury.
Usyk might fade in the later rounds and then Fury taking over the championship rounds, and as per Stake, the odds for Fury is 1.79 and Usyk at 1.92. So it seems bettors are putting their money on Fury after the weigh-in as it was used to be 50/50 odds.
Fury by decision is 3.15, best of luck to all bettors!!!
Usyk might fade in the later rounds and then Fury taking over the championship rounds, and as per Stake, the odds for Fury is 1.79 and Usyk at 1.92. So it seems bettors are putting their money on Fury after the weigh-in as it was used to be 50/50 odds.
Fury by decision is 3.15, best of luck to all bettors!!!
Many people are giving their views about who they think the winner will be:
Who is backing Fury
Frank Warren
Lennox Lewis
Deontay Wilder
Mike Tyson
Naseem Hamed
Simon Jordan
Ricky Hatton
Who is backing Usyk
Anthony Joshua
Tony Bellew
Evander Holyfield
George Groves
Malik Scott
Who is undecided
Eddie Hearn
Frazer Clarke
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The fact Lennox Lewis, Deontay Wilder, Naseem Hamed and Mike Tyson have backed Fury to win is to be noted. It was not a surprise to see Joshua backing Usyk to win because he was comprehensively defeated by Usyk twice but when Bellew backed Usyk it was also to be noted.
This fight is too close to call but I am now edging towards Fury to win on a highly contentious points decision.
Who is backing Fury
Frank Warren
Lennox Lewis
Deontay Wilder
Mike Tyson
Naseem Hamed
Simon Jordan
Ricky Hatton
Who is backing Usyk
Anthony Joshua
Tony Bellew
Evander Holyfield
George Groves
Malik Scott
Who is undecided
Eddie Hearn
Frazer Clarke
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The fact Lennox Lewis, Deontay Wilder, Naseem Hamed and Mike Tyson have backed Fury to win is to be noted. It was not a surprise to see Joshua backing Usyk to win because he was comprehensively defeated by Usyk twice but when Bellew backed Usyk it was also to be noted.
This fight is too close to call but I am now edging towards Fury to win on a highly contentious points decision.
Usyk weighed in at 16st (224lb) and that is his heaviest ever. He probably needed the extra weight to counter the weight advantage Fury has.
Some media are reporting 223lb, some 223.5lb, I'm not sure if there has been an official correction announcement, but it's still not that much heavier than what we saw against AJ or Dubois. So we know what to expect from Usyk.
Fury weighed in at 18st 7lb (262lb) and that was his lightest in four years but he is in very good physical condition and still much heavier that Usyk.
I'm not 100% convinced that dropping that much weight is a good tactic, but I guess he and his team know better.
It's not like it'll make him faster than Usyk. Now he'll still be a bit slower, but will have less advantage of weight and power.
When Fury finally managed to be bothered to look at Usyk at the weigh-in it lasted around two seconds because he immediately pushed Usyk. They have to be separated but both were shouting at each other from a distance.
To me, it's pretty clear that Fury just wants to get in Usyk's head to shift the chance on his side a little bit. There's no other reason for him (or his father) to act that hostile, especially when he stated multiple times that he has nothing but respect for Oleksandr.
I think it's a 50/50 fight and that's what makes it more interesting.
I made a tiny bet on a draw just for a laugh.
Usyk weighed in at 16st (224lb) and that is his heaviest ever. He probably needed the extra weight to counter the weight advantage Fury has.
Fury weighed in at 18st 7lb (262lb) and that was his lightest in four years but he is in very good physical condition and still much heavier that Usyk.
When Fury finally managed to be bothered to look at Usyk at the weigh-in it lasted around two seconds because he immediately pushed Usyk. They have to be separated but both were shouting at each other from a distance.
Fury weighed in at 18st 7lb (262lb) and that was his lightest in four years but he is in very good physical condition and still much heavier that Usyk.
When Fury finally managed to be bothered to look at Usyk at the weigh-in it lasted around two seconds because he immediately pushed Usyk. They have to be separated but both were shouting at each other from a distance.
It appears that the Tyson Fury has taken his training more serious for this fight against Usyk. Did I see that there was abdominal muscles in Fury's midsection? Did these abdominal muscles appear when Fury fought Francis Ngannou? I reckon Fury appears to be more slimmer for this fight vs. Usyk than the fight against Ngannou hehehe. I predict this fight against Usyk will be a similar performance Tyson Fury has done against Wladimir Klitschko.
Hahaha...abdominal muscles? Maybe he recently had an abdominal muscle surgery that is out of the media space...lol Frankly, your shape as a boxer doesn't determine your winning. Even the weight loss is relative in nature and not about the weight loss in all cases, it depends on the fight. It also depends on how you can use it to your advantage, especially to the disadvantage of your opponent if you can manage it well which should have been detected during training, it's a plus in this case.But I will not neglect the fact that he would have made many adjustments having studied the previous fight of Usyk and a suggestion of weight loss might have been made. Yet, this doesn't necessarily mean a plus because some boxers can still use your weight loss against you if they know how to do so.
Regardless, the bout is finally today, many hours time though, another event that will take sleep off my eyes. It is a must-watch for me.
Many were quite surprised by Usyk steping on scale and showing almost 6kg (or 12.5 pounds) heavier than in his fights against Joshua or Dubois, but it turned out to be a mistake caused my miscommunication between the supervisor and Michael Buffer.
His actual weight was not 233.5 pounds (106kg) but 223 pounds (101kg).
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/boxing/usyk-weight-wrong-fury-weighin-b2547157.html
For comparison, Fury is 262 pounds (119kg), so heavier by 39 pounds (almost 18kg).
His actual weight was not 233.5 pounds (106kg) but 223 pounds (101kg).
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/boxing/usyk-weight-wrong-fury-weighin-b2547157.html
For comparison, Fury is 262 pounds (119kg), so heavier by 39 pounds (almost 18kg).
It appears that the Tyson Fury has taken his training more serious for this fight against Usyk. Did I see that there was abdominal muscles in Fury's midsection? Did these abdominal muscles appear when Fury fought Francis Ngannou? I reckon Fury appears to be more slimmer for this fight vs. Usyk than the fight against Ngannou hehehe. I predict this fight against Usyk will be a similar performance Tyson Fury has done against Wladimir Klitschko.
I have a question to ask the experts since I have been thinking of it since I saw the headline, How can the weight of the fighter affect his fight?
Tyson Fury's weight was reported as 262lbs while his Oleksandr Usyk weighed 233.5lbs which is less than Fury's weight. Does lighter weight make you a better boxer who will find it easier to move, or does light weight mean that punches have lesser power? I am a bit confused, help me understand.
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Tyson Fury's weight was reported as 262lbs while his Oleksandr Usyk weighed 233.5lbs which is less than Fury's weight. Does lighter weight make you a better boxer who will find it easier to move, or does light weight mean that punches have lesser power? I am a bit confused, help me understand.
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Having a weight advantage is definitely beneficial. If it weren’t, we wouldn’t see so many fighters try to negotiate a catchweight or a rehydration clause when they have to fight somebody who is bigger.
In Fury’s most notable wins, against Deontay Wilder, the weight difference played a key role in his victory. Instead of trying to outbox Wilder from the outside, Fury fought at a close distance and made it very physical fight. In the end, the second and third fights both resulted in Wilder being severely battered.
Fury’s ability to impose his size is why he was so heavily favored when this fight was initially announced. Those odds have narrowed considerably after Fury showed some signs of decline in his previous fight. In just a few hours we will know for sure if the big man is still capable of using his size advantage effectively or will Usyk be able to nullify it with speed and movement.
Right, when we have seen recently about fighters having a long stare-down of 3-4 minutes and I thought this will be the new trend obviously you wanted to look at your opponents eye and try to intimidate him somewhat and read what's on his mind.
I have a question to ask the experts since I have been thinking of it since I saw the headline, How can the weight of the fighter affect his fight?Tyson Fury's weight was reported as 262lbs while his Oleksandr Usyk weighed 233.5lbs which is less than Fury's weight. Does lighter weight make you a better boxer who will find it easier to move, or does light weight mean that punches have lesser power? I am a bit confused, help me understand.
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I'm not a boxing expert but I will just throw my my sats here,
a. lighter fighter might have the advantage as far as movement goes, and Usyk might have a advantage as he can move around and get away from Fury's power. But also remember that Usyk is not a natural HW, is is just a blown up CW.
b. heavier boxer in his case Fury will have the more power obviously, and he can used his weight to sap all the energy of Usyk as he might try to muscle him up in the clinch. And additional weight might only means that he can take the power of Usyk and not be affected by it.
Right, when we have seen recently about fighters having a long stare-down of 3-4 minutes and I thought this will be the new trend obviously you wanted to look at your opponents eye and try to intimidate him somewhat and read what's on his mind.
I have a question to ask the experts since I have been thinking of it since I saw the headline, How can the weight of the fighter affect his fight?Tyson Fury's weight was reported as 262lbs while his Oleksandr Usyk weighed 233.5lbs which is less than Fury's weight. Does lighter weight make you a better boxer who will find it easier to move, or does light weight mean that punches have lesser power? I am a bit confused, help me understand.
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