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Topic: [ POLL ] The Unification Fight: FURY vs USYK 17th FEBRUARY 2024 - page 17. (Read 5484 times)

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He never seen fury so hurt, he even did well to recover because those sets of punches could have knocked out any regular boxer.

I think when Wilder knocked him down was a worse knockdown. Fury was spark out for a few seconds but came back from the dead.
Wilders punch looked to just have caught Fury off his feet, and although it counted as a knockdown, Fury was not so hurt, he just took some time to take a deep breath before getting back up.

Usyk clearly damaged Fury, I saw his knees wobble; he needed the ropes for support.

Does anyone want to see this fight run back again? I don’t. I think Fury is done.
I like to see the fight again to be convinced.

Fury had a good fight, but Usyk was just too special. It will take another fight to confirm the Usyk supremacy.
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~ One of the judges giving it to Fury needs to be investigated.~

100% Imagine that another judge would be just as blind (or just bought/fucked up) - now we would have another scandalous result and endless discussions about the fact that boxing is a trash sport due to corruption.
However, even with such a fight where the greedy belly was beaten, I read many opinions in X that he was robbed and he won on points  Grin It is clear that this is just the whining of fanboys, but when the judges make such strange calculations, even the most wretched opinion suddenly has some justification.
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I don't know if there's any official boxing rule saying that a boxer needs to drop to the ground (or kneel etc) before he can be considered knocked down and the counting can begin, but if it's up for the referee to decide, then I see no controversy re the round 9 situation.
Tyson was in trouble but he was conscious, so stopping the fight would be completely wrong, and I don't think Fury would necessarily be KO'd cold if the referee didn't step in. Anything could've happened, but, to me, it looked like Fury was about to drop on his knee before he noticed the ref got between himself and Usyk.
This doesn't matter though, as Usyk has still won, and during the post-fight interview, he wasn't bothered by the situation at all.
I haven't seen the full fight yet, only the extensive highlights, but think Usyk won fair and square. The rematch should be really exciting.

Well. It's already over and Usyk won. But there will be lots of talk about it. Because it is just unusual to count 10 when there is no knockdown. It may not matter to us but for some boxers, they keep that in mind. And they wouldn't be talking about a rematch if Fury dropped cold and there is no way the score would look like it's a very close fight.

I actually thought the ref stepped in to stop the fight and it's a TKO. lol

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I don't know if there's any official boxing rule saying that a boxer needs to drop to the ground (or kneel etc) before he can be considered knocked down and the counting can begin, but if it's up for the referee to decide, then I see no controversy re the round 9 situation.
Tyson was in trouble but he was conscious, so stopping the fight would be completely wrong, and I don't think Fury would necessarily be KO'd cold if the referee didn't step in. Anything could've happened, but, to me, it looked like Fury was about to drop on his knee before he noticed the ref got between himself and Usyk.
This doesn't matter though, as Usyk has still won, and during the post-fight interview, he wasn't bothered by the situation at all.
I haven't seen the full fight yet, only the extensive highlights, but think Usyk won fair and square. The rematch should be really exciting.
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The referee did not jump in immediately and eventually had to do one of two things. Either he had to stop the fight to protect Fury and award the win to Usyk or he had to give a mandatory ten second count because Fury would have been on the floor if the ropes were not stopping him from falling.

During the part when Fury almost falling backwards I was expecting the referee to jump in to stop the fight. Full credit to the referee, he did not stop the fight until the point he awarded a knockdown to Usyk. It was when the referee decided Fury would have been on the canvas if the ropes were not holding him up therefore he intervened and counted a mandatory ten seconds.

Full credit to Usyk because he was about to unleash more shots as Fury was falling on to the ropes but he stopped and immediately withdrew when the referee jumped in. It also seemed as though Usyk decided to not throw punches (when he saw Fury about to topple) probably because he did not want to cause damage to Fury and he thought he was about to win by KO.

Wtf happened in round 9 ? Why on earth that ref jumped between them and stop Usyk from TKOing Fury? I have noticed several time, that ref wanted to jump between them when Usyk was pushing forward and was about to make a series of punches. That ref interfered more than did something useful.

Is that an official rule?
He wasn't really KO'd so it is never counted as one but it would have been a devastating KO for Fury. I say this fight is rigged for Fury and then they didn't expect this is how it would turn, giving another few seconds for Usyk to continue hitting, Fury wouldn't be able to stand up.

I would understand it if Fury touched the floor with his gloves but this is really a cheat so to speak. I there is anything like that where the ref has to interfere while they stand still, the referee would stop the fight in order to save the fighter but not to count 10.
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The referee did not jump in immediately and eventually had to do one of two things. Either he had to stop the fight to protect Fury and award the win to Usyk or he had to give a mandatory ten second count because Fury would have been on the floor if the ropes were not stopping him from falling.

During the part when Fury almost falling backwards I was expecting the referee to jump in to stop the fight. Full credit to the referee, he did not stop the fight until the point he awarded a knockdown to Usyk. It was when the referee decided Fury would have been on the canvas if the ropes were not holding him up therefore he intervened and counted a mandatory ten seconds.

Full credit to Usyk because he was about to unleash more shots as Fury was falling on to the ropes but he stopped and immediately withdrew when the referee jumped in. It also seemed as though Usyk decided to not throw punches (when he saw Fury about to topple) probably because he did not want to cause damage to Fury and he thought he was about to win by KO.

Wtf happened in round 9 ? Why on earth that ref jumped between them and stop Usyk from TKOing Fury? I have noticed several time, that ref wanted to jump between them when Usyk was pushing forward and was about to make a series of punches. That ref interfered more than did something useful.
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Wtf happened in round 9 ? Why on earth that ref jumped between them and stop Usyk from TKOing Fury? I have noticed several time, that ref wanted to jump between them when Usyk was pushing forward and was about to make a series of punches. That ref interfered more than did something useful.

In conclusion - Fury went with one of his best forms, but still lose. I remember they have a rematch, then during it Usyk would TKO Fury for sure. First loss for Fury, knowing his mental problems, it definitely going to leave a mark and be advantage for Usyk in their next fight.

When the referee stopped the fight in the 9th round, I was almost sure that he was stopping the fight, but it turned out to be some kind of crap. It’s good that in the end it didn’t help Fury and in the end there wasn’t any surprise, like a draw, although I wouldn’t be surprised by that. I think no one has any doubt that Usyk won this fight, the advantage was too obvious, I think Fury also agrees with this, but of course he had to say that he thinks that he won. He will want a rematch in any case, this is a lot of money that he cannot refuse.
Stand up for the champion! I knew how this match would end and I am so happy that it did not disappoint me. The two guys tried their best, but still, I realised that Usyk had studied carefully how to beat a giant like Fury coupled with his surviving spirit and strength. If the referee had not cautioned Usyk at some points, he would have collapsed Fury, if not knocked him out. I respect Usyk for his respect for the sport, he never got aggressive or tried to overdo but followed instructions and cautioned himself nicely, which is another herioc part of him. He understood the game and played well by the rules despite having some advantage to do some ugly things.

And yes, Fury has accepted that defeat and even thanked Usyk for a very good match. There could be a rematch though, but the Fury is ranting for now even as he was never coherent in his speech as usual claiming family, self and health. With time, we see how things unfold, but still, I believe he can't do better against Usyk, the guy will beat him again based on what I saw yesterday.
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Wtf happened in round 9 ? Why on earth that ref jumped between them and stop Usyk from TKOing Fury? I have noticed several time, that ref wanted to jump between them when Usyk was pushing forward and was about to make a series of punches. That ref interfered more than did something useful.

In conclusion - Fury went with one of his best forms, but still lose. I remember they have a rematch, then during it Usyk would TKO Fury for sure. First loss for Fury, knowing his mental problems, it definitely going to leave a mark and be advantage for Usyk in their next fight.

When the referee stopped the fight in the 9th round, I was almost sure that he was stopping the fight, but it turned out to be some kind of crap. It’s good that in the end it didn’t help Fury and in the end there wasn’t any surprise, like a draw, although I wouldn’t be surprised by that. I think no one has any doubt that Usyk won this fight, the advantage was too obvious, I think Fury also agrees with this, but of course he had to say that he thinks that he won. He will want a rematch in any case, this is a lot of money that he cannot refuse.
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Wtf happened in round 9 ? Why on earth that ref jumped between them and stop Usyk from TKOing Fury? I have noticed several time, that ref wanted to jump between them when Usyk was pushing forward and was about to make a series of punches. That ref interfered more than did something useful.

In conclusion - Fury went with one of his best forms, but still lose. I remember they have a rematch, then during it Usyk would TKO Fury for sure. First loss for Fury, knowing his mental problems, it definitely going to leave a mark and be advantage for Usyk in their next fight.
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A new trilogy opened for these 2 fighters indeed. A rematch is almost expected on this one, but Fury must win on their rematch or else, we are seeing a new king in the heavyweight division.
Before the fight there were two kings of the heavyweight division and now there is just one. Whether we agree with the judges scorecards or not we all have now already seen history being made. A trilogy is not needed, the rematch is enough to settle this.

If Fury or Usyk (or both) opt to retire before their rematch that is a decision they will consider after discussions with their team but the rematch will bring them even more money than the first fight.

Usyk had 3 belts compared to Fury's 1 but he walked first and was also introduced first. But maybe they're one of Fury's dozens of demands just to make this undisputed fight.
I do not think it was even a matter of demands. Fury held the WBC belt which historically is the belt that has the most value and historical association. It was never going to be debatable as to which boxer would walk in to the ring second.
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First thing I would like to say, that Usyk won that fight fair. There were no judges help, there were no political help. A true undisputed champion. I dont remember anyone holding all the belts recently. One thing I dont understand that why it is a win by split decision, but not a majority decision. I believe that maximum what Fury achieved was a draw. If there were no standing knockdown, then it might be a chance that one judge would be in Fury favor.
Yes he couldn't make it if Fury was more careful and didn't allow that shot that hurt him and made him go knock down. That was a great fight in overall but Fury IMO deserve a rematch here. Take that knock down and Fury could have won the fight easily. Anyway, that happened and we have to respect the result, what I like about Fury is that he respected the result, he is a good sport unlike other boxers who claimed they won after not declaring them the winner.
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First thing I would like to say, that Usyk won that fight fair. There were no judges help, there were no political help. A true undisputed champion. I dont remember anyone holding all the belts recently. One thing I dont understand that why it is a win by split decision, but not a majority decision. I believe that maximum what Fury achieved was a draw. If there were no standing knockdown, then it might be a chance that one judge would be in Fury favor.
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@LogitechMouse. I am not very optimistic on Tyson Fury's chance of having the victory on this immediate rematch on October. He was knocked down by Usyk who is smaller and who does not have much power on his punches? Also, why did Tyson stop the uppercuts to the body? It was beginning to disrupt Usyk on round 7! Yes, this result of this was quite a shock and also certainly a disappointment for the fans of Mike Tyson Fury!
Despite the fact that Usyk is shorter, his blow is strong enough, otherwise he would not have been able to decorate Fury like that in the 9th round. And when Fury started hitting the body in the 5th round, the result was immediately visible, how bad Usiki was in the next round. In general, Usik’s advantage was obvious, and in the ninth round the referee saved Fury from a knockout, it is unclear why he stopped the fight, everything could have ended earlier.
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What a fight! But I noticed Usyk seemed disrespected and a lot are trying to save the more marketable fighter from losing. Usyk had 3 belts compared to Fury's 1 but he walked first and was also introduced first. But maybe they're one of Fury's dozens of demands just to make this undisputed fight. The referee saved Fury in round 9. And a judge had it 113-114 for Fury? It was a close fight but there was a clear winner. I had it 115-112 for Usyk as well.

So here is the compubox stats of the fight.


Power shots have more value than those jabs of course. And if we're going to score it based on the stats it is an easy 116-111 for Usyk. But Usyk does not have a huge fan base and is not a big PPV fighter which is why he needs to win fights convincingly when he is against fighters with huge economic value.
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@LogitechMouse. I am not very optimistic on Tyson Fury's chance of having the victory on this immediate rematch on October. He was knocked down by Usyk who is smaller and who does not have much power on his punches? Also, why did Tyson stop the uppercuts to the body? It was beginning to disrupt Usyk on round 7! Yes, this result of this was quite a shock and also certainly a disappointment for the fans of Mike Tyson Fury!

It will still be the same result in the rematch. Usyk clearly is the better fighter. Does anybody notice the ref counts too long in favor of Fury?

The knockdown should play a big part in the score but in the end, the score says the fight is close. This is all a shitshow and they wanna do it again and if they are doing this in Saudi again, they really are shameless.
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@LogitechMouse. I am not very optimistic on Tyson Fury's chance of having the victory on this immediate rematch on October. He was knocked down by Usyk who is smaller and who does not have much power on his punches? Also, why did Tyson stop the uppercuts to the body? It was beginning to disrupt Usyk on round 7! Yes, this result of this was quite a shock and also certainly a disappointment for the fans of Mike Tyson Fury!
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Frank Warren has stated that Fury immediately wanted to activate the rematch clause and the fight will go ahead in October. That is right, as it currently stands Fury and Usyk will have to fight all over again. Going by the spectacle witnessed today, the rematch could go either way. If Fury wins, there will not be a new rematch clause inserted therefore if there were to be a trilogy it would have to be negotiated separately.

Congratulations to Usyk and well done to Fury for saying they will fight each other again after 5 months  Grin
No surprise TBH.
The fact that it ended as a split decision despite him getting knocked down in the 9th round. Like you said, it's hard to pick who is the winner on this fight.

The feeling of you might've defended the belt, but you just got knocked down in the 9th round and got outboxed by a smaller fighter like Usyk. That's what Fury is feeling right now. A new trilogy opened for these 2 fighters indeed. A rematch is almost expected on this one, but Fury must win on their rematch or else, we are seeing a new king in the heavyweight division.

Congratulations to both fighters. For sure, fans loved this match that made history.
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I just read that Drake had money on Tyson Fury to win this fight. How many gambling losses is that in a row for Drake now on big events? How much would you be up if you bet against Drake and let your winnings ride? Seems like maybe Drake is the Jim Cramer of gambling. Do the opposite of what he does and enjoy the ride.
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Great fight. I would give it something like 7/5 to Usyk. Fury did well to recover after the knockdown but he was saved by the ropes and the bell but won a couple of the later rounds. One of the judges giving it to Fury needs to be investigated. Even a draw would have been controversial. I'm looking forward to the rematch in October. Fury needs to go for broke in that. I thought Fury was taking the loss well until he said he thought he won and Usyk probably got some sympathy votes from the judges because of the war. Just say it was close but you were narrowly beaten by the better man and you'll look to avenge the loss in the rematch. He would have gained so many fans back if he said something like that.

A draw wasn’t out of the realm of possibility. People always feel like there needs to be a clear cut winner and that it should be in favor of their preferred fighter. There is always going to be a degree of subjectivity, and when they are so evenly matched there will never be 100% consensus. Watching it live, I scored it a draw, (6 rounds Fury, 5 rounds Usyk, 1 round even, and a knockdown in Usyk’s favor).

Fury didn’t need to bring up the military conflict in Ukraine, but anybody who loses a close decision would look for anything to grasp onto. There is definitely a strong pro-Ukranian bias from some in the boxing media, but this wasn’t why Fury lost a decision. He should instead reflect on his mistakes and how he can fix them. He might be declining, but he’s still capable of winning the rematch.
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Frank Warren has stated that Fury immediately wanted to activate the rematch clause and the fight will go ahead in October. That is right, as it currently stands Fury and Usyk will have to fight all over again. Going by the spectacle witnessed today, the rematch could go either way. If Fury wins, there will not be a new rematch clause inserted therefore if there were to be a trilogy it would have to be negotiated separately.

Congratulations to Usyk and well done to Fury for saying they will fight each other again after 5 months  Grin

Does anyone want to see this fight run back again? I don’t. I think Fury is done. Francis showed that he’s no goat and now he’s being thrown to the wolves. I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t win another fight and retires. He’s only hurting his legacy from this point. I’m a little surprised the fight didn’t get called in the 9th round when it was clear Fury was out on his feet…
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