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I think that does not work for heavyweights. It is in more light division age matter a lot, since you lose in speed. When heavyweights rely more on he power. They do not throw thousands of strikes during the fight. I might say, that heavyweights are like wine, with time they only get better. Undoubtedly age matter, but for example Holyfield fought till 49 yo and won some belts when being 40+.
Well there was Holyfield as you mentioned and also there was one of the greatest boxers that also made a comeback and reigned for a long time too, it was George Foreman. Maybe the age factor will be irrelevant when Fury and Usyk meet in the ring.

I do agree, Usyk should be very well prepared in this fight at 100% not just physically, but mentally as well as Fury is know to uses psyche war before the fight, like trash talking and what his father did.
It was interesting to see the way Usyk reacted after the headbutting incident on a member of his team. He was literally focused on nothing except the fight and he does not like to get involved with trash-talking or creating a scene to attract attention on himself. I think both boxers are way beyond the psychological game stage, they just want to get in the ring and try to win.
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It is just me or Fury looks slim in this fight? Or maybe he just shave his beard that's why he look slim?
Tyson Fury definitely looks trim in his training photos that were released recently and he looked both focused and determined but if he stands any chance to beat a fully fit Usyk he will have to be at his 100% best because nothing else will do. Also, I think the same applies to Usyk too because if he stands any chance of beating a fully fit Fury he will have to be at his 100% best.

If both are 100% at their best it might have to be settled by the scorecard judges.
Ok thanks, I thought I was the only who noticed how his face is somewhat very thin as compare to his fight with Ngannou. Maybe he lost some weight in this fight so that he can go and bounce and use his legs more for movement to counter Usyk. And with them, we shouldn't expect that much of a hugging from Fury and uses that strategy of putting all his weight on his opponents to tire them up. Fury is still the favorite in this fight, but it's just a very slim at 1.7x as compare to Usyk's, 1.90. I do agree, Usyk should be very well prepared in this fight at 100% not just physically, but mentally as well as Fury is know to uses psyche war before the fight, like trash talking and what his father did.
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The problem (if it can be called that) for Usyk is he is now 37 whereas Fury is 35 and that might play a part when they enter the ring.

I think that does not work for heavyweights. It is in more light division age matter a lot, since you lose in speed. When heavyweights rely more on he power. They do not throw thousands of strikes during the fight. I might say, that heavyweights are like wine, with time they only get better. Undoubtedly age matter, but for example Holyfield fought till 49 yo and won some belts when being 40+.
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It is just me or Fury looks slim in this fight? Or maybe he just shave his beard that's why he look slim?
Tyson Fury definitely looks trim in his training photos that were released recently and he looked both focused and determined but if he stands any chance to beat a fully fit Usyk he will have to be at his 100% best because nothing else will do. Also, I think the same applies to Usyk too because if he stands any chance of beating a fully fit Fury he will have to be at his 100% best.

If both are 100% at their best it might have to be settled by the scorecard judges.

Not long now, really looking forward to this. Can Tyson Fury back up his loud mouth or will Usyk be crowned the greatest heavyweight in the world.

I really don’t know what to think about this one. As a British guy I should want Fury to win but part of me is rooting for Usyk. I love his attitude and fighting style against mostly bigger men. He is small for a heavyweight but he more than makes up for it. The way he dismantled Anthony Joshua twice was impressive.
Without a doubt Usyk taught Joshua a boxing lesson by showing him how technically superior he was when he defeated him twice. The problem (if it can be called that) for Usyk is he is now 37 whereas Fury is 35 and that might play a part when they enter the ring.
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It is just me or Fury looks slim in this fight? Or maybe he just shave his beard that's why he look slim? But I agree with @ JollyGood, this is just an embarrassed and the Fury looks the villain here and they are the street thugs and then Usyk and his flag becoming the hero. Most of the time this kind of antics could really backfire on some boxers as they go out of the box just to promote the fight. It's one thing to trash talk the other camp to hype and promote it, but physically assaulting a part of the other team is not good in the eyes of most boxing fans, specially the high level of this fight.

Yeah, he looks kind of smaller than usual, and not sure if it's a good thing or not. On the one hand, massive size advantage could work in his favour, on the other, losing extra pounds means he should be much faster while still having the reach advantage. But Usyk will be superior when it comes to technique and speed anyway, so getting too slim could not be a great idea for Tyson.

As for John, I think there's a massive overreaction to what he did. He made a mistake and apologised, so not much more to discuss. Have we really got so feminised and domesticated that we're going to freak out over a little unplanned violence?
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Not long now, really looking forward to this. Can Tyson Fury back up his loud mouth or will Usyk be crowned the greatest heavyweight in the world.

I really don’t know what to think about this one. As a British guy I should want Fury to win but part of me is rooting for Usyk. I love his attitude and fighting style against mostly bigger men. He is small for a heavyweight but he more than makes up for it. The way he dismantled Anthony Joshua twice was impressive.
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It is just me or Fury looks slim in this fight? Or maybe he just shave his beard that's why he look slim? But I agree with @ JollyGood, this is just an embarrassed and the Fury looks the villain here and they are the street thugs and then Usyk and his flag becoming the hero. Most of the time this kind of antics could really backfire on some boxers as they go out of the box just to promote the fight. It's one thing to trash talk the other camp to hype and promote it, but physically assaulting a part of the other team is not good in the eyes of most boxing fans, specially the high level of this fight.
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No matter how much he tried to pass it off as a joke/banter, I think Tyson Fury must be embarrassed by what his father John Fury did.

I am glad we are now just three days away from the fight. First they could not agree terms. Then, they agreed to fight but Fury got injured. Now they are actually getting in the ring for this anticipated history making fight and they have a two-fight clause therefore you have to expect they will challenge each other at least twice.

Back to the fight itself, if it ends in a draw clearly there will be a rematch. Also, if there is a winner, the loser will definitely trigger the rematch. The fight record of both Fury and Usyk makes this a really intriguing fight:


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This is not the first time John Fury cant control his anger. Remember how furious he was when his other kid fought Jake Paul ? Or the time he attacked glass at at Tommy Fury vs KSI ? He has serious problems with anger management. It is commendable when parent protect their kids against any thread, but this time, both of his kids can take care of themselves Grin He looks like a crazy angry drunk to me.

Have you seen Fury on crutches in the lobby in few days before the fight? What is this? A new soil for excuse ?
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Most of the time, Bellew does speak a lot of sense and that tweet was interesting.

He made it clear before the first Usyk vs Joshua fight that Usyk would win and he was confident about it after he himself was beaten by Usyk when they met as cruiserweights. Bellew suffered a knockout in round 8 and was on his way to winning the fight because he was ahead on the judges scorecards, that was until the end of the 6th round when he received powerful shots from Usyk before the bell.

After that, Usyk took over the fight and ended up winning but Bellew knew he was up against a technical genius in Usyk that was why he knew he would beat Joshua (twice) and he believes it will be close between Fury and Usyk but according to him Usyk will win.
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^^ I do agree, this is not acceptable action by the Fury's here, he is making a mockery of boxing, if they want to do like this in promotion then they should be fighting in exhibitions matches not pro-boxing. And for sure, some fans are really disappointed and obviously wanting to see Fury getting smack by Usyk.

Speaking of head-butt,



https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1790448887674618262
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John Fury disgustingly headbutted a young lad in Usyk's camp yesterday completely unprovoked
John Fury clearly overstepped the mark when he headbutted a member of the Usyk team.We all know this was not the first time he has been an absolute attention-seeker but what happened on this occasion was basically on a completely different level to the usual banter, taunting and occasional pushing that takes place between two parties.

What he did was unacceptable and definitely he should receive an appropriate punishment for it because it should have been considered an assault and he should have been arrested/questioned at the time.

The Saudi's should grow some balls and send him home. He wouldn't have done that in the UK or he'd be straight back to prison.
Whether he gets sent back to the UK or not, Usyk released a statement about the headbutting incident giving him even more reason to win the fight. It is starting to look as though the time for jokes is over and this is finally getting serious.
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John Fury disgustingly headbutted a young lad in Usyk's camp yesterday completely unprovoked:
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The Saudi's should grow some balls and send him home. He wouldn't have done that in the UK or he'd be straight back to prison.

It was a cheap move by the old man, it didn't seem like there was any real provocation, other than Usyk's team chanting his name.
You'd expect a little bit more restraint and self-control from a man of his age, instead he acted as an overly emotional teenager. Sucker headbutting non-aggressive and much smaller guy won't bring him any glory, not to mention that he seemed to suffer more damage than the Ukrainian lad, who btw gave an interview later on and wasn't too bothered by the situation.
I don't think Saudis would take any action, given the guy who got headbutted is unlikely to report it.
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The "Grand Arrivals" part of promo is now streaming live: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcaNEk1TVuE

They're just going through the undercard one by one so far.

John Fury disgustingly headbutted a young lad in Usyk's camp yesterday completely unprovoked:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/S1e3wl3gs2w
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8QbzZsancX4

The Saudi's should grow some balls and send him home. He wouldn't have done that in the UK or he'd be straight back to prison.
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It's hard to predict for sure, which on paper should make the fight more exciting, I just hope it isn't boring. I think Uysk will give a boxing masterclass which can either be exciting or dull. Fury has the potential to KO him but he'd need to be the first to do so. Tyson could play dirty if he gets frustrated which will add some spice to the fight.
It cannot be denied, this fight should be an exciting blockbuster that should go down in history for all the right reasons BUT we have seen far too many boxing fights that have turned out as total disappointments. If Fury and Usyk start the fight with too much caution, it could take away the entertaining factor.

This is a heavyweight unification fight, the first since 1999 therefore everybody is hoping for a memorable money in history.

I still do not have a favorite for the fight, I will choose before that day.
When you look at the phenomenal boxing record of both Fury and Usyk, you have to simply respect them for what they have achieved. Usyk stepped up as an unbeaten unified cruiserweight champion to heavyweight champion.

If Usyk wins, he will be the first champion in history that unified both the cruiserweight and heavyweight titles and did it by winning all of his fights. He had an impressive 16-0-0 record at cruiserweight and now a 5-0-0 at heavyweight record including winning the WBA, IBF, WBO, and IBO heavyweight titles against Joshua in just his 3rd heavyweight fight. He has an overall 21-0-0 record (including 14 KO and 7 on the judges scorecard).

If Fury wins, he did it the hard way by overcoming adversity including serious mental health issues. His first professional fight was in 2008 but when he beat W Klitchko to win the n WBA, IBF, WBO, IBO, and The Ring heavyweight titles in November 2015 he suffered mental and physical health issues and did not fight again until June 2018. His overall record stands at 35-0-1 (the only draw being the disputed result against Wilder in the first fight of their trilogy). He won 24 by KO and 10 on the judges scorecard.

It is very difficult to pick a winner.
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Only a week to go now. Just saw there's some events announced on Dazn schedule:

Tuesday 14th Grand Arrivals: https://www.dazn.com/en-GB/home/5hk4br58lvbctme995e85p7qq
Wednesday 15th Open Workouts: https://www.dazn.com/en-GB/home/7hab40wcmxj4vp3z8qxpcpr4l
Thursday 16th Press Conference:  https://www.dazn.com/en-GB/home/5jbjkttm7atng2wqn4zq0kpvj
Friday 17th Weigh in: https://www.dazn.com/en-GB/home/51z03iktxjyqf7g3v00q4m8yo

And the 18th is obviously the fight. They've definitely left it late to promote this but at least it looks like it'll be a busy week starting Tuesday. I think all of the above apart from the fight obviously will be live to stream on the Dazn youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@DAZNBoxing
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They have finally started the promo at least Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk Official Documentary: The Ring of Fire:
There is a lot of hype, and as I saw online, the Swiss luxury Jacob & Co. watch brand made a very beautiful piece for this big fight.


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I still do not have a favorite for the fight, I will choose before that day.
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I thought this Usyk's message to Tyson was pretty funny: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LvBGCEHnUdM

Did Usyk get in Tyson's head with that or was Fury just confused?  Grin.

This has all the signs of being a very close fight because of the excellent records both boxers accumulated over the years. I really hope it plays out in a very entertaining way.

There should be enough adrenalin flowing through their veins to ensure neither gets knocked out even one or both gets knocked down for a less than 10 seconds if they get caught out by a surprise punch. I think most commentators and analysts as well as the ordinary person probably thinks this will go the distance.

I agree, but I think it probably will go the distance. Usyk doesn't knock many people out and Tyson doesn't get knocked down easily (though lets ignore that last fight  Grin). I also don't have much faith in the judges. The Saudi's seem to be quite biased towards Fury so I hope Usyk gets a fair shot and their relationship with Fury doesn't cloud their judgement. If it's close I can see a draw especially since it's a two fight deal but if Usyk is dominating and Fury wins or it's a draw there will be outrage.

It's hard to predict for sure, which on paper should make the fight more exciting, I just hope it isn't boring. I think Uysk will give a boxing masterclass which can either be exciting or dull. Fury has the potential to KO him but he'd need to be the first to do so. Tyson could play dirty if he gets frustrated which will add some spice to the fight.
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This has all the signs of being a very close fight because of the excellent records both boxers accumulated over the years. I really hope it plays out in a very entertaining way.

There should be enough adrenalin flowing through their veins to ensure neither gets knocked out even one or both gets knocked down for a less than 10 seconds if they get caught out by a surprise punch. I think most commentators and analysts as well as the ordinary person probably thinks this will go the distance.

I agree, but I think it probably will go the distance. Usyk doesn't knock many people out and Tyson doesn't get knocked down easily (though lets ignore that last fight  Grin). I also don't have much faith in the judges. The Saudi's seem to be quite biased towards Fury so I hope Usyk gets a fair shot and their relationship with Fury doesn't cloud their judgement. If it's close I can see a draw especially since it's a two fight deal but if Usyk is dominating and Fury wins or it's a draw there will be outrage.
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They have finally started the promo at least Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk Official Documentary: The Ring of Fire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJVW62rC470


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He said he took it serious both before and after the fight, but we all know we can't believe what he says given he lies so much, but there's also the possibility that he's just not as good as we thought he was. I guess this Usyk fight really is going to be the litmus test because there's no sleepwalking into this fight out of shape as Usyk will dismantle him and if Tyson loses then he's lost to a 'jumped up middleweight' in his own words.

Does he lie a lot though? I always considered Fury to be one of the most honest in the boxing world and speaking his mind. The fact that he wasn't making any excuses after the Ngannou fight somewhat proves that.




Tyson lies more than he tells the truth. Usually if he says something I tend to believe the opposite. Just google Tyson Fury lies and you'll see an awful lot.

https://www.sportbible.com/boxing/tyson-fury-boxing-lies-interview-20221110

One of the more recent ones was him lying about him starting camp already and that Sugar Hill had flown over that day to start training him. He hadn't. He'd flown over to train another fighter and was just taking advantage of that fact to make out like he was in camp already when he wasn't: https://www.reddit.com/r/Boxing/comments/11z0ju6/sugarhill_steward_confirmed_to_boxingkingmedia_he/

Regardless of the number of judges they have at ringside when the fight eventually takes place, what are the chances of there being a huge row if the fight were to go the distance? We all already know in that scenario the blame of the outcome will be put on the judges because the result will inevitably be contested and will be a controversial one.

For those reasons I really hope the fight ends before getting to the judges scoring.

There are rematch clauses involved therefore Fury and Usyk are expected to have a minimum of two fights and probably a maximum of three and it would be better for there to be a winner in each fight before the judges scorecard is involved.


I agree, but I think it probably will go the distance. Usyk doesn't knock many people out and Tyson doesn't get knocked down easily (though lets ignore that last fight  Grin). I also don't have much faith in the judges. The Saudi's seem to be quite biased towards Fury so I hope Usyk gets a fair shot and their relationship with Fury doesn't cloud their judgement. If it's close I can see a draw especially since it's a two fight deal but if Usyk is dominating and Fury wins or it's a draw there will be outrage.
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