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Topic: [ POLL ] The Unification Fight: FURY vs USYK 17th FEBRUARY 2024 - page 2. (Read 4891 times)

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Usyk is already in Riyadh,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dbm_01xil5I

So he still has a week to fully acclimatized himself for the rematch. And probably Fury might be as well traveling to Saudi or maybe he is already inside the country. And this is important for Fury and he should focus and I think Fury will adapt and will bring the fight to Usyk. And capitalized on the lessons learned he got from the first fight.



https://x.com/Turki_alalshikh/status/1867258878628372987

And probably this is true, everyone is on the Usyk vs Fury syndrome, we still have one week to wait.
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Frank Warren claims Tyson will exploit Usyk's weakness to the body in the rematch: https://x.com/boxingontnt/status/1866145026813927653 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-14181475/Frank-Warren-reveals-Oleksandr-Usyk-weakness-Tyson-Fury-failed-exploit-career-loss-Gypsy-King-knows-rematch-unified-world-champion.html

If so, not sure why he's giving away some of Tyson's gameplan  Grin. I was watching back the highlights of the the first fight the other day and it did seem Tyson was attacking the body and even Usyk was complaining of a few low blows. I expect Fury will play a little dirtier in this fight given he's got nothing to lose now.
Now that Fury has lost his unbeaten record he will have to go with a different mindset in the rematch. If it is the same Fury that dismantled Wilder then I am in no doubt he will be full of positivity and will go on to win the rematch but if he falls short (and if Usyk is in peak form) Usyk will punish him. Fury will not want for that to happen therefore this will be a much better and open fight than their first meeting.

I think Dubois deserves the Usyk rematch given the controversy in the first fight and his recent form... that's assuming he obviously beats Parker, which isn't going to be easy. I actually think it's close to a 50-50 fight. Parker is very tough and I wouldn't be surprised at all if he beats Dubois especially going by his last two wins against Zhang and Wilder which I didn't expect of him.

If Usyk does win I hope he doesn't have any plans to retire and fights the winner of Dubois/Parker to unify the belts again.
I agree, Parker is a tough opponent. He is only 32 years old yet has been though major victories and setbacks but bounced back. Getting past Zhang and Wilder was not exactly easy but Parker won. It is highly unlikely we will see Parker beating Dubois by knockout but it is more likely we will see Parker being knocked out. Th only way Parker wins the fight is by taking it to the judges scorecard. It will be a very close fight because Parker is very brave and determined boxer.

As for Usyk, I think there should have been an immediate rematch after he beat Dubois. I look at that punch Usyk took from Dubois and on the basis of that Dubois should have had the right to fight Usyk again. If they did meet again but this time in a unification, it would be a stunning bout.
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Frank Warren claims Tyson will exploit Usyk's weakness to the body in the rematch: https://x.com/boxingontnt/status/1866145026813927653 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-14181475/Frank-Warren-reveals-Oleksandr-Usyk-weakness-Tyson-Fury-failed-exploit-career-loss-Gypsy-King-knows-rematch-unified-world-champion.html

If so, not sure why he's giving away some of Tyson's gameplan  Grin. I was watching back the highlights of the the first fight the other day and it did seem Tyson was attacking the body and even Usyk was complaining of a few low blows. I expect Fury will play a little dirtier in this fight given he's got nothing to lose now.

Last week Dubois made a statement with a message for both Fury and Usyk: "I am coming for the belts". Dubois is still fully focused on trying to unify the belts after his stunning victory over Joshua and genuinely believes he will not only box but also beat Fury or Usyk in order to unify the belts.

Having said that, Dubois is not arrogant towards Parker: "I'm not overlooking Parker. That's all on the line for him as well. He'll be fighting just as hard as I am. Never overlook anyone. Deal with him first and then we can move on to that one".

If Dubois beats Parker then it will be a financial blockbuster to have another heavyweight unification fight so soon after the previous one.

I think Dubois deserves the Usyk rematch given the controversy in the first fight and his recent form... that's assuming he obviously beats Parker, which isn't going to be easy. I actually think it's close to a 50-50 fight. Parker is very tough and I wouldn't be surprised at all if he beats Dubois especially going by his last two wins against Zhang and Wilder which I didn't expect of him.

If Usyk does win I hope he doesn't have any plans to retire and fights the winner of Dubois/Parker to unify the belts again.
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Last week Dubois made a statement with a message for both Fury and Usyk: "I am coming for the belts". Dubois is still fully focused on trying to unify the belts after his stunning victory over Joshua and genuinely believes he will not only box but also beat Fury or Usyk in order to unify the belts.

Having said that, Dubois is not arrogant towards Parker: "I'm not overlooking Parker. That's all on the line for him as well. He'll be fighting just as hard as I am. Never overlook anyone. Deal with him first and then we can move on to that one".

If Dubois beats Parker then it will be a financial blockbuster to have another heavyweight unification fight so soon after the previous one.
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New sit down face-off video between the two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT1ARkrNG5U
very nice find and great built up for the upcoming fight!
I remember watching the face off video before the first fight, and Usyk was not speaking much of English language.
This time around I think he came better prepared, he practiced and improved his English language skills more.


Very well done, he'd probably can make it during the interviews and stating his overview towards his vision for this upcoming fight. His preparedness must be so surprising for his opponent, and that's probably could give his opponent shakes their confidence as Usyk truly give his full soul of training before this fight commences. With respect to his speaking ability on English, well that's just a plus factor on his character.
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New sit down face-off video between the two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT1ARkrNG5U
very nice find and great built up for the upcoming fight!
I remember watching the face off video before the first fight, and Usyk was not speaking much of English language.
This time around I think he came better prepared, he practiced and improved his English language skills more.
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Here is a new twist in the quest for a potential heavyweight unification bout between the winner of the Fury vs Usyk fight and Dubois. It has been announced Dubois will fight Parker in February 2025: [ POLL ] IBF boxing heavyweight title Fight: DUBOIS vs PARKER 22nd February 2025

I expect Dubois to win that fight but Parker is a formidable, determined and stubborn opponent that will make it very difficult. I still feel Dubois will face Fury in 2025 for a title unification showdown.

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New sit down face-off video between the two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT1ARkrNG5U

Tyson has flip-flopped again and is saying he thinks he beat Usyk. Claims he's not going to change anything or come in heavier, but I think he's just doing what he usually does and lies through his teeth but is keeping his cards close to his chest. To be fair, it would be smart not to reveal his gameplan. I hope the ref doesn't save Fury this time and Usyk gets a chance to KO Fury which I think he would have done had the ref not given him a standing count.

This new promo video is amazing!
Last one was also great with cowboys, but this one is even better with hallucinations and breaking of TV screens  Grin
I cant wait to see this fight and I really hope to see better performance from Fury, trilogy between them would be fantastic.

I enjoyed it but my favourite was the Guy Ritchie directed one for the 5v5.
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The first promotion video for the Fury vs Usyk was excellent as a result of the special effects and thought process behind it and it worked very well leading up to the much anticipated fight. What has happened with the promotion video for the second fight has made up for the lack of talk about it in the media.

For too long it felt as though both Fury and Usyk were not in the media enough to keep interest in the rematch at the top level but this promotion video has changed it all  Grin














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Love it. Simply excellent. Their first promo was kinda weird, but starting from Fury vs Ngannou, the guy who is responsible for script and prom, he doesn't get his money for nothing. Only due to get more such promos I would pay for their fight translation to stimulate a third fight to happen Cheesy I like how they do it funny, and stepped away from default darken gym, guys punching bags and swearing to kill their opponents.

I do agree, the promotional company that they hire to conceived this kind of short films to promote a fight. I thought that it's hard to topple the Bivol vs Beterbiev, but now they come up with this new idea and I will say that this is the best so far.

But still though, I do think that Tyson Fury will go and try to even up and force a third fight. His approach is very much different that's why I speculate that he is really preparing very hard for this fight and could weight heavy again.
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Love it. Simply excellent. Their first promo was kinda weird, but starting from Fury vs Ngannou, the guy who is responsible for script and prom, he doesn't get his money for nothing. Only due to get more such promos I would pay for their fight translation to stimulate a third fight to happen Cheesy I like how they do it funny, and stepped away from default darken gym, guys punching bags and swearing to kill their opponents.
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Without doubt this video is much better than the first one but it does give a misconception that Fury and Usyk are friends that had fun making the video together. they probably never shared the same space when filming but the post production geniuses put together a masterpiece. In the near future maybe all (or nearly all) unification boxing bouts regardless of weight will be promoted in the same manner.

Usyk as a child in the pram and shouting on the video intercom to see the face of the man was funny just as it was to see Fury laying on the couch talking about seeing Usyk people. I hope the fight will be a classic.

This new promo video is amazing!
Last one was also great with cowboys, but this one is even better with hallucinations and breaking of TV screens  Grin
I cant wait to see this fight and I really hope to see better performance from Fury, trilogy between them would be fantastic.
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This new promo video is amazing!
Last one was also great with cowboys, but this one is even better with hallucinations and breaking of TV screens  Grin
I cant wait to see this fight and I really hope to see better performance from Fury, trilogy between them would be fantastic.
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Not sure about the tactics of Fury going heavy in this fight, and uses his strategy of putting all his weight on his opponent. And how can Fury handled his lost to Usyk, although we have seen no trash talking and no disrespect and he could have been humbled by Usyk. And probably he needs more of his energy and focus on the rematch, instead of antics outside of the ring.
Fury has been careful when he had to face cameras and make comments about the rematch. He did not go over the top in any capacity and did not disrespect Usyk.

The truth is nobody knows how Fury will come out fighting but other than trying to dominate by controlling the centre of the ring, there is no real option other than trying to go for a knockout but it could backfire therefore staying in the centre and making Usyk work might be his aim.
 
Quite funny and references quite a lot of different films and TV shows. Turki really knows how to promote the fights and these promo videos are always entertaining and drum up hype for the fight.
In the promotion video it was hilarious when Fury said "I see Usyk people"  Grin
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New promo video for the fight: https://youtu.be/8z_dZH2jD0s?si=p8He6hCsjc76IxON

Quite funny and references quite a lot of different films and TV shows. Turki really knows how to promote the fights and these promo videos are always entertaining and drum up hype for the fight.

https://talksport.com/boxing/2341981/tyson-fury-target-weight-oleksandr-usyk-rematch/

Tyson has stated his intent to come in much heavier for this fight, so if that's to be believed that looks like his gameplan for the rematch. I don't think it'll help much but at least he's learned that he can't get into Uyk's head via a war of words:

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Fury believes he lost their inaugural encounter by 'taunting too much' and has promised a far more aggressive approach to the rematch.
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https://x.com/Turki_alalshikh/status/1861794755589390361

That's from the man himself, Turki and they titled this fight "Reignited".

Not sure about the tactics of Fury going heavy in this fight, and uses his strategy of putting all his weight on his opponent. And how can Fury handled his lost to Usyk, although we have seen no trash talking and no disrespect and he could have been humbled by Usyk. And probably he needs more of his energy and focus on the rematch, instead of antics outside of the ring.
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He certainly seems to be focused on the fight and seems to be shaping up to be a different Fury to the one that entered the ring with Usyk. He seems far more focused and determined this time and I think not many would disagree with me. Adding extra weight will definitely help him if he wants to get more power behind those punches and if he wants to lean on Usyk to tire him. Fury is doing the right thing by changing something, he cannot get in to the ring with Usyk with the same physique as he did before.
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Looks like Fury is planning to come in heavier: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-14136751/Tyson-Fury-figure-oleksandr-usyk.html

The truth is if Joshua wanted a rematch he could have activated the clause by asking for it after Dubois beat him but he had to take a step back because the loss was absolutely shattering for him. He knows his career would be over the moment he gets beaten by Dubois again therefore avoided it. Why Hearn is still going on about it when the rematch clause has expired.

It seems Hearn wants to milk Joshua as much as he can before he retires therefore he is still making a lot of noise from time to time in the media in order to keep Joshua in the news. Hearn wishes that he could get Joshua to fight the winner of the Fury vs Usyk fight (or Fury is he loses) but that is simply not going to happen.

Eddie Hearn has recently said that AJ's next fight will likely either be Dubois rematch or Fury. I'm guessing it all depends on the Usyk outcome but he wants two Fury fights in 2025

I think he wants it, but he will want the Fury fight more and it's a question of sinking further down the pecking order with a loss to Dubois again. The smart money move would be to wait to fight Fury which can easily be the next fight assuming Fury doesn't beat Usyk. Dubois is fighting earlier next year according to Warren and Hearn said AJ won't be ready by then. It could be BS or a stalling tactic as there's no reason why he couldn't be ready by then but the smart thing would be to wait for the Fury/Usyk outcome. He could be waiting a while though if Fury takes some damage or decides to take some time off so it could be late 2025 before we see them. Both may decide to take easier fights also but I think both fighters may just want the big money fights now given they're likely coming towards the end of their career and both will be out of line for belts etc. Maybe a tune up fight in the meantime but again that risks taking some damage or even worse if he loses. The money is there for this fight though so I'm sure it will happen at some point. AJ could redeem himself with a win over Dubois also but that's a huge ask. He did it against Ruiz so I think he can do it again, though Dubois is obviously far more dangerous that Ruiz. There's also no news on who Dubois will be fighting so maybe he's also waiting for the outcome of the Fury/Usyk fight and Dubois could rematch Usyk given the controversy in that. Usyk might want to get his belt back so it's a great opportunity for him.
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