Topic: [ POLL ] The Unification Fight: FURY vs USYK 17th FEBRUARY 2024 - page 5. (Read 5484 times)

New sit down face-off video between the two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT1ARkrNG5U

Tyson has flip-flopped again and is saying he thinks he beat Usyk. Claims he's not going to change anything or come in heavier, but I think he's just doing what he usually does and lies through his teeth but is keeping his cards close to his chest. To be fair, it would be smart not to reveal his gameplan. I hope the ref doesn't save Fury this time and Usyk gets a chance to KO Fury which I think he would have done had the ref not given him a standing count.


I enjoyed it but my favourite was the Guy Ritchie directed one for the 5v5.

The first promotion video for the Fury vs Usyk was excellent as a result of the special effects and thought process behind it and it worked very well leading up to the much anticipated fight. What has happened with the promotion video for the second fight has made up for the lack of talk about it in the media.

For too long it felt as though both Fury and Usyk were not in the media enough to keep interest in the rematch at the top level but this promotion video has changed it all  

I do agree, the promotional company that they hire to conceived this kind of short films to promote a fight. I thought that it's hard to topple the Bivol vs Beterbiev, but now they come up with this new idea and I will say that this is the best so far.

But still though, I do think that Tyson Fury will go and try to even up and force a third fight. His approach is very much different that's why I speculate that he is really preparing very hard for this fight and could weight heavy again.

Love it. Simply excellent. Their first promo was kinda weird, but starting from Fury vs Ngannou, the guy who is responsible for script and prom, he doesn't get his money for nothing. Only due to get more such promos I would pay for their fight translation to stimulate a third fight to happen I like how they do it funny, and stepped away from default darken gym, guys punching bags and swearing to kill their opponents.

Without doubt this video is much better than the first one but it does give a misconception that Fury and Usyk are friends that had fun making the video together. they probably never shared the same space when filming but the post production geniuses put together a masterpiece. In the near future maybe all (or nearly all) unification boxing bouts regardless of weight will be promoted in the same manner.

Usyk as a child in the pram and shouting on the video intercom to see the face of the man was funny just as it was to see Fury laying on the couch talking about seeing Usyk people. I hope the fight will be a classic.

This new promo video is amazing!
Last one was also great with cowboys, but this one is even better with hallucinations and breaking of TV screens 
I cant wait to see this fight and I really hope to see better performance from Fury, trilogy between them would be fantastic.

Fury has been careful when he had to face cameras and make comments about the rematch. He did not go over the top in any capacity and did not disrespect Usyk.

The truth is nobody knows how Fury will come out fighting but other than trying to dominate by controlling the centre of the ring, there is no real option other than trying to go for a knockout but it could backfire therefore staying in the centre and making Usyk work might be his aim.
 
In the promotion video it was hilarious when Fury said "I see Usyk people" 

New promo video for the fight: https://youtu.be/8z_dZH2jD0s?si=p8He6hCsjc76IxON

Quite funny and references quite a lot of different films and TV shows. Turki really knows how to promote the fights and these promo videos are always entertaining and drum up hype for the fight.

https://talksport.com/boxing/2341981/tyson-fury-target-weight-oleksandr-usyk-rematch/

Tyson has stated his intent to come in much heavier for this fight, so if that's to be believed that looks like his gameplan for the rematch. I don't think it'll help much but at least he's learned that he can't get into Uyk's head via a war of words:

https://x.com/Turki_alalshikh/status/1861794755589390361

That's from the man himself, Turki and they titled this fight "Reignited".

Not sure about the tactics of Fury going heavy in this fight, and uses his strategy of putting all his weight on his opponent. And how can Fury handled his lost to Usyk, although we have seen no trash talking and no disrespect and he could have been humbled by Usyk. And probably he needs more of his energy and focus on the rematch, instead of antics outside of the ring.

He certainly seems to be focused on the fight and seems to be shaping up to be a different Fury to the one that entered the ring with Usyk. He seems far more focused and determined this time and I think not many would disagree with me. Adding extra weight will definitely help him if he wants to get more power behind those punches and if he wants to lean on Usyk to tire him. Fury is doing the right thing by changing something, he cannot get in to the ring with Usyk with the same physique as he did before.

Looks like Fury is planning to come in heavier: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-14136751/Tyson-Fury-figure-oleksandr-usyk.html


I think he wants it, but he will want the Fury fight more and it's a question of sinking further down the pecking order with a loss to Dubois again. The smart money move would be to wait to fight Fury which can easily be the next fight assuming Fury doesn't beat Usyk. Dubois is fighting earlier next year according to Warren and Hearn said AJ won't be ready by then. It could be BS or a stalling tactic as there's no reason why he couldn't be ready by then but the smart thing would be to wait for the Fury/Usyk outcome. He could be waiting a while though if Fury takes some damage or decides to take some time off so it could be late 2025 before we see them. Both may decide to take easier fights also but I think both fighters may just want the big money fights now given they're likely coming towards the end of their career and both will be out of line for belts etc. Maybe a tune up fight in the meantime but again that risks taking some damage or even worse if he loses. The money is there for this fight though so I'm sure it will happen at some point. AJ could redeem himself with a win over Dubois also but that's a huge ask. He did it against Ruiz so I think he can do it again, though Dubois is obviously far more dangerous that Ruiz. There's also no news on who Dubois will be fighting so maybe he's also waiting for the outcome of the Fury/Usyk fight and Dubois could rematch Usyk given the controversy in that. Usyk might want to get his belt back so it's a great opportunity for him.

The truth is if Joshua wanted a rematch he could have activated the clause by asking for it after Dubois beat him but he had to take a step back because the loss was absolutely shattering for him. He knows his career would be over the moment he gets beaten by Dubois again therefore avoided it. Why Hearn is still going on about it when the rematch clause has expired.

It seems Hearn wants to milk Joshua as much as he can before he retires therefore he is still making a lot of noise from time to time in the media in order to keep Joshua in the news. Hearn wishes that he could get Joshua to fight the winner of the Fury vs Usyk fight (or Fury is he loses) but that is simply not going to happen.

Eddie Hearn has recently said that AJ's next fight will likely either be Dubois rematch or Fury. I'm guessing it all depends on the Usyk outcome but he wants two Fury fights in 2025:

https://www.badlefthook.com/2024/11/26/24306872/eddie-hearn-looks-to-stage-tyson-fury-vs-anthony-joshua-in-2025-boxing-news-2024


Not sure if we need two given neither have the belts. Just do one and if it's a great/close fight people will want to see it again.

Well of course but how often do these huge fights happen in their prime. At least one party usually dodges them or is holding out for that huge payday that often never comes. We all wanted to see AJ/Fury at their peak but that time has past. The second best time is now. Both AJ and Wilder are looking for redemption so I think it's a decent fight for them both. They're still two huge names and I think it's still a risky fight, especially for AJ. If he loses then that's a huge crash for his career, but I don't think either party should retire just yet, especially AJ. People were praising AJ for his dominant performances against Helenius, Wallin and Ngannou and bouncing back from the two Uysk losses and now people want him to retire after the Dubois loss. Lets not forget Dubois was coming off a couple bad losses against Usyk and Joyce where many thought he quit and look where he is now as the IBF champion. Many were even calling for Dubois to retire but the boxing game and fans are fickle and it only takes one fight to change everything. If AJ gets a one or two good wins under his belt and maybe even beat Dubois in the rematch he'll be back in contention for the belts so don't write him off just yet. He came back against Ruiz and I think he can do it again.


I think the fight will very likely be Fury's next fight if he loses. It's still the biggest fight for both of them and arguably still one of the biggest fights in all of boxing so it makes sense for all parties involved. Turki has the cash for it too.

I think any Joshua vs Wilder fight would have been one most boxing fans would have been eager to see when they were both at their peak but they both seem well past their best and probably time for them to retire. Any fight involving either Parker or Zhang would be a bigger prospect than anything involving Wilder or Joshua and I feel Parker deserves his opportunity to contest for a title fight.

We agree if Fury wins he will not fight Joshua but I cannot see that fight going ahead even if loses. They had their chance to get in the ring but never took it and it looks as though it will not happen.

Agreed, however, on their previous fight, Tyson Fury has appeared to be not very much using his big size to cause his opponent Usyk to be tired. This is certainly why I speculate that Tyson Fury's plan A will be to lean more on Usyk and make him tired beginning on round 8 where Tyson Fury can begin to become the bully in the right hehehe.

What is the heaviest weight limit for heavyweight boxers? I predict Tyson Fury's weight will be near this limit. We will witness the fat Fury heheheheheh.

I don't think the title matters at all. It's still one of the biggest fights and given they're both on losses it's quite equal now in my opinion. In fact, I don't think I could call a winner and it's 50-50. If Fury wins he likely wouldn't fight AJ for the belt as he'll either do the trilogy with Usyk which would probably be deserved or have to fight another mandatory of which there are several prospects.



Leaner? I dunno. He doesn't seem to be any leaner right now and there's not long left until the fight. There's positives and negatives to being heavier but Tyson will now know he can't bully him with his weight so it might be a good idea to become fitter. Though with that being said, he doesn't seem to have an issue with stamina but Usyk is definitely the fittest of the two and keeps himself in fighting shape all year around whereas Tyson usually gets out of shape out of camp and maybe that's why Usyk is the better of the two..

Yes, and I guess it's the responsibility of the trainer itself to write down everything, not just plan A, but there could be plan B and plan C as well if the first plan didn't work or Usyk was able to offset it as he had one of the best IQ as well.

And then there is this motivation during the fight, we have seen great trainers somewhat put one inspiring words after another and then bring their boxer to the next level. Specially those on the brink of defeat then suddenly finding their second wind. So I expect Fury here to really make a lot of adjustments and perhaps win by judges scorecard. And stop with the leaning already, he can used it, but it should not be just their primary strategy here. Used his height and close the distance and not let Usyk beat him to the punch.

That final in the trilogy was something. Wilder definitely let his knockout record get to his head but every boxer at every weight would have thought the same. It was only until Fury dismantled him that we all realised the massive gulf between Wilder and Fury. It cannot be denied Wilder had a fantastic record before his trilogy with Fury.

Maybe the fans do not have an appetite for a Joshua vs Wilder fight if there is no title on the line, I certainly would not be looking forward to it. People would assume they were two failed boxers seeking a final lucrative deal.

You might be correct, however, this Tyson Fury with Sugar Hill has given Usyk his most greatest challenge in his career as a boxer. Also, from what Fury and Sugar Hill has learned from the previous fight, the trainer knows already what to change and what tactics to continue. If Tyson Fury will again lose this fight then he certainly should change his trainer.

I speculate that Tyson Fury will be more leaning similar to a MMA wrestler for this rematch and win this with a split decision heheheh.