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Quote from: pawel7777 on December 17, 2024, 05:07:36 PM

I honestly don't know who should be the favourite here and I consider it a 50/50 fight. On one hand, Usyk did win the first one fair and square, but it was a really close one, and if it wasn't for that knockdown (or standing count) who knows what the result would be.

You are right, the split decision of 115-112, 113-114, 114-113 is indeed a close call and I will not forget that number, ever because I wanted Fury to receive the beating of his life due to his ranting and lousiness. I was so happy at the outcome even as the judges did not do the proper justification as I expected. Wink

I expect a similar result in Riyadh on Saturday. The two fighters must have carefully studied their fight and the weaknesses/strengths of their opponents, so let their training judge but I am putting the bet on Usyk, though it may not be a knockout.

I don't think it was that close and the judge that gave it to Fury should be sacked. I would expect the same outcome as the first fight, but I've got a feeling Usyk might get robbed with loss or draw. Turki is seemingly wanting Fury to win so they get a trilogy and given Saudi just bought the World Cup 2030 it wouldn't surprise me if they buy the judges for this either. Even Eddie Hearn has changed his opinion recently and is now backing Fury. Either Turki's persuaded him to start backing Fury or he's just wanting Fury to win so they can try make the AJ fight happen. Usyk is probably going to have to get a KO this time around to secure a win.

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Quote from: JollyGood on December 18, 2024, 05:33:45 PM

Just a few days remain before the rematch takes place and the anticipation is rising. I am still extremely confident the bout will be won by Fury and it will be the first defeat for Usyk. The poll remains open therefore vote if you have not already done.

And that's what his sparring partner says,

It's all about Fury's game plan, and he knows what his strengths and weakness are. He needs to improved his weakness in order to win this fight. And he says that Fury wanted to do damaged in the rematch. So gonna be a close fight and maybe Fury to win and fight going into distance.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on December 17, 2024, 05:07:36 PM

I honestly don't know who should be the favourite here and I consider it a 50/50 fight. On one hand, Usyk did win the first one fair and square, but it was a really close one, and if it wasn't for that knockdown (or standing count) who knows what the result would be.

You are right, the split decision of 115-112, 113-114, 114-113 is indeed a close call and I will not forget that number, ever because I wanted Fury to receive the beating of his life due to his ranting and lousiness. I was so happy at the outcome even as the judges did not do the proper justification as I expected. Wink

I expect a similar result in Riyadh on Saturday. The two fighters must have carefully studied their fight and the weaknesses/strengths of their opponents, so let their training judge but I am putting the bet on Usyk, though it may not be a knockout.

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Just a few days remain before the rematch takes place and the anticipation is rising. I am still extremely confident the bout will be won by Fury and it will be the first defeat for Usyk. The poll remains open therefore vote if you have not already done.

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I honestly don't know who should be the favourite here and I consider it a 50/50 fight. On one hand, Usyk did win the first one fair and square, but it was a really close one, and if it wasn't for that knockdown (or standing count) who knows what the result would be.
Tyson seems to have his mind in the right place before the rematch. He's more collected and composed than before the first fight when he was acting a bit off at times.

Given that I give each 50% to win, if I had to bet, I'd bet on Fury, simply because the odds are better.
But instead of betting on the winner, I might be tempted to bet that the fight won't go the distance:

I think Fury will be keen on taking more risk, which will either pay off or he will get punished.

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Quote from: satscraper on December 17, 2024, 04:24:03 AM

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Quote from: hilariousetc on December 02, 2024, 10:02:06 AM

New promo video for the fight: https://youtu.be/8z_dZH2jD0s?si=p8He6hCsjc76IxON

Great video. Otherwise, usually such promo videos are always aggressively sullen, but it turned out to be funny here. I've been doubting for a long time who to bet on. Well, since there are only a few days left, we need to decide. I'll probably bet on Fury, despite the fact that Usyk is the bookmakers' favorite. In any case, I'm looking forward to this fight, it will obviously be more interesting than the recent ostentatious fight between Tyson vs. Paul, where the fight itself was generally boring.

Thus you will bet against the public which ^{nine times out of ten} reflects bookies. I think Usyk is near the end of his career as professional boxer thus he will fight tight to not lose his title. For this reason I would bet on him though Fury seems to be highly motivated this time. Regarding Tyson, his time in professional boxing is up, thus all relevant fights with him are choreographed shows^{more than often}.

Well, yes, I'm betting against the public. Because I'm betting an amount that I don't mind losing. I don't expect to earn anything from the bet, but if Fury wins, it would be a nice bonus. The reasonable considerations that you have given certainly have a place to be. And strangely enough, that's exactly why I want to make such a bet.

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Quote from: viljy on December 17, 2024, 03:58:22 AM

Quote from: hilariousetc on December 02, 2024, 10:02:06 AM

New promo video for the fight: https://youtu.be/8z_dZH2jD0s?si=p8He6hCsjc76IxON

Great video. Otherwise, usually such promo videos are always aggressively sullen, but it turned out to be funny here. I've been doubting for a long time who to bet on. Well, since there are only a few days left, we need to decide. I'll probably bet on Fury, despite the fact that Usyk is the bookmakers' favorite. In any case, I'm looking forward to this fight, it will obviously be more interesting than the recent ostentatious fight between Tyson vs. Paul, where the fight itself was generally boring.

Thus you will bet against the public which ^{nine times out of ten} reflects bookies. I think Usyk is near the end of his career as professional boxer thus he will fight tight to not lose his title. For this reason I would bet on him though Fury seems to be highly motivated this time. Regarding Tyson, his time in professional boxing is up, thus all relevant fights with him are choreographed shows^{more than often}.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on December 02, 2024, 10:02:06 AM

New promo video for the fight: https://youtu.be/8z_dZH2jD0s?si=p8He6hCsjc76IxON

Great video. Otherwise, usually such promo videos are always aggressively sullen, but it turned out to be funny here. I've been doubting for a long time who to bet on. Well, since there are only a few days left, we need to decide. I'll probably bet on Fury, despite the fact that Usyk is the bookmakers' favorite. In any case, I'm looking forward to this fight, it will obviously be more interesting than the recent ostentatious fight between Tyson vs. Paul, where the fight itself was generally boring.

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Moving back from heavyweight to cruiserweight means that Usyk has earned enough and isnt focused on boxing or wishes to continue boxing Cheesy

He can clean cruiserweight division once again, but all that wont bring as much money as 1 fight against Fury, AJ or any other top heavyweight. Btw, he will turn 38 exactly in 1 month, maybe its is time to think about retirement. His toughest opponent (as written in wiki), Mairis Briedis from cruiserweight (won by MD), retired this year at the age of 39. So there is nothing left to prove for Usyk in cruiserweight anymore Cheesy

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Usyk has stated if he beats Fury he will not have any more heavyweight fights and will instead drop back down to cruiserweight. His last cruiserweight fight was in 2018 when he defeated Tony Bellew and successfully defended his titles.

This is not what Dubois wants to hear as he wants his chance to fight either or Fury in a unification fight (and possibly prefer Usyk to level the score after his contentious defeat).

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Usyk is already in Riyadh,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dbm_01xil5I

So he still has a week to fully acclimatized himself for the rematch. And probably Fury might be as well traveling to Saudi or maybe he is already inside the country. And this is important for Fury and he should focus and I think Fury will adapt and will bring the fight to Usyk. And capitalized on the lessons learned he got from the first fight.

https://x.com/Turki_alalshikh/status/1867258878628372987

And probably this is true, everyone is on the Usyk vs Fury syndrome, we still have one week to wait.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on December 11, 2024, 08:44:23 AM

Frank Warren claims Tyson will exploit Usyk's weakness to the body in the rematch: https://x.com/boxingontnt/status/1866145026813927653 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-14181475/Frank-Warren-reveals-Oleksandr-Usyk-weakness-Tyson-Fury-failed-exploit-career-loss-Gypsy-King-knows-rematch-unified-world-champion.html

If so, not sure why he's giving away some of Tyson's gameplan Grin

. I was watching back the highlights of the the first fight the other day and it did seem Tyson was attacking the body and even Usyk was complaining of a few low blows. I expect Fury will play a little dirtier in this fight given he's got nothing to lose now.

Now that Fury has lost his unbeaten record he will have to go with a different mindset in the rematch. If it is the same Fury that dismantled Wilder then I am in no doubt he will be full of positivity and will go on to win the rematch but if he falls short (and if Usyk is in peak form) Usyk will punish him. Fury will not want for that to happen therefore this will be a much better and open fight than their first meeting.

Quote from: hilariousetc on December 11, 2024, 08:44:23 AM

I think Dubois deserves the Usyk rematch given the controversy in the first fight and his recent form... that's assuming he obviously beats Parker, which isn't going to be easy. I actually think it's close to a 50-50 fight. Parker is very tough and I wouldn't be surprised at all if he beats Dubois especially going by his last two wins against Zhang and Wilder which I didn't expect of him.

If Usyk does win I hope he doesn't have any plans to retire and fights the winner of Dubois/Parker to unify the belts again.

I agree, Parker is a tough opponent. He is only 32 years old yet has been though major victories and setbacks but bounced back. Getting past Zhang and Wilder was not exactly easy but Parker won. It is highly unlikely we will see Parker beating Dubois by knockout but it is more likely we will see Parker being knocked out. Th only way Parker wins the fight is by taking it to the judges scorecard. It will be a very close fight because Parker is very brave and determined boxer.

As for Usyk, I think there should have been an immediate rematch after he beat Dubois. I look at that punch Usyk took from Dubois and on the basis of that Dubois should have had the right to fight Usyk again. If they did meet again but this time in a unification, it would be a stunning bout.

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Frank Warren claims Tyson will exploit Usyk's weakness to the body in the rematch: https://x.com/boxingontnt/status/1866145026813927653 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-14181475/Frank-Warren-reveals-Oleksandr-Usyk-weakness-Tyson-Fury-failed-exploit-career-loss-Gypsy-King-knows-rematch-unified-world-champion.html

If so, not sure why he's giving away some of Tyson's gameplan Grin

. I was watching back the highlights of the the first fight the other day and it did seem Tyson was attacking the body and even Usyk was complaining of a few low blows. I expect Fury will play a little dirtier in this fight given he's got nothing to lose now.

Quote from: JollyGood on December 11, 2024, 08:21:54 AM

Last week Dubois made a statement with a message for both Fury and Usyk: "I am coming for the belts". Dubois is still fully focused on trying to unify the belts after his stunning victory over Joshua and genuinely believes he will not only box but also beat Fury or Usyk in order to unify the belts.

Having said that, Dubois is not arrogant towards Parker: "I'm not overlooking Parker. That's all on the line for him as well. He'll be fighting just as hard as I am. Never overlook anyone. Deal with him first and then we can move on to that one".

If Dubois beats Parker then it will be a financial blockbuster to have another heavyweight unification fight so soon after the previous one.

I think Dubois deserves the Usyk rematch given the controversy in the first fight and his recent form... that's assuming he obviously beats Parker, which isn't going to be easy. I actually think it's close to a 50-50 fight. Parker is very tough and I wouldn't be surprised at all if he beats Dubois especially going by his last two wins against Zhang and Wilder which I didn't expect of him.

If Usyk does win I hope he doesn't have any plans to retire and fights the winner of Dubois/Parker to unify the belts again.

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Last week Dubois made a statement with a message for both Fury and Usyk: "I am coming for the belts". Dubois is still fully focused on trying to unify the belts after his stunning victory over Joshua and genuinely believes he will not only box but also beat Fury or Usyk in order to unify the belts.

Having said that, Dubois is not arrogant towards Parker: "I'm not overlooking Parker. That's all on the line for him as well. He'll be fighting just as hard as I am. Never overlook anyone. Deal with him first and then we can move on to that one".

If Dubois beats Parker then it will be a financial blockbuster to have another heavyweight unification fight so soon after the previous one.

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Quote from: notblox1 on December 04, 2024, 04:58:59 PM

Quote from: hilariousetc on December 03, 2024, 11:26:13 AM

New sit down face-off video between the two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT1ARkrNG5U

very nice find and great built up for the upcoming fight!
I remember watching the face off video before the first fight, and Usyk was not speaking much of English language.
This time around I think he came better prepared, he practiced and improved his English language skills more.

Very well done, he'd probably can make it during the interviews and stating his overview towards his vision for this upcoming fight. His preparedness must be so surprising for his opponent, and that's probably could give his opponent shakes their confidence as Usyk truly give his full soul of training before this fight commences. With respect to his speaking ability on English, well that's just a plus factor on his character.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on December 03, 2024, 11:26:13 AM

New sit down face-off video between the two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT1ARkrNG5U

very nice find and great built up for the upcoming fight!
I remember watching the face off video before the first fight, and Usyk was not speaking much of English language.
This time around I think he came better prepared, he practiced and improved his English language skills more.

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Here is a new twist in the quest for a potential heavyweight unification bout between the winner of the Fury vs Usyk fight and Dubois. It has been announced Dubois will fight Parker in February 2025: [ POLL ] IBF boxing heavyweight title Fight: DUBOIS vs PARKER 22nd February 2025

I expect Dubois to win that fight but Parker is a formidable, determined and stubborn opponent that will make it very difficult. I still feel Dubois will face Fury in 2025 for a title unification showdown.

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