Topic: [PoS+PoW] eXocoin [EXO]-gen 2.0- dev. from scratch! Give-Away | Open Beta - page 77. (Read 415654 times)

dont wait, innovate 

  its a long long time to wait  .

  cannot say anything again.

How much? Maybe you can give it to me 

I don't think pre-release trade is that important, but I don't think the coin will be released this year. The dev concentrates on 100 little things that are not important for the launch, but take a lot of time.

My best guess for release would be Feb 2015. If not released at that time, it will be never released.

I will get my money back.

Now that is a solution I can live with!

Thank you for the clarity.

we decided to rework/update the roadmap.

linux+osx builds:  3 days, needed for launch, especially the fix of the missing core functionalities, except miner adjustments
proxy support:    2 days, urgently needed for launch
external service support: after end of open beta, since it is not urgently needed before launch
udp flow control: 2 days, urgently needed for launch
code review:      4 days, urgently needed for launch
open tickets:      3 days, needed for launch (only a few of them. Other tickets will be solved after the launch)
gpu miner implementation: 10-18 days, urgently needed prior to mining start. We would, however, like to have it almost done prior to launch.

I'm on a business trip for est. 15-20 days unfortunately (starting on 6th August). We (including me) will continue to work on it nevertheless.

== final open beta test with a client which is targeted to be completely ready for launch within August. This maybe includes a working gpu miner. Otherwise we will make the beta test and release the gpu miner shortly thereafter. External service support and other points will be finished thereafter.
I'd like to be at home for the final beta test, using some days of holiday to monitor the test actively. So eta for the final test would be: returning home + 2 days.

The final test is assumed to work flawlessly. If that's the case (with the experience from latest 0.61 and the great improvements over prev. versions I think that is likely to be true) - we can make the marketing, design etc stuff end of August. I'd see the real-launch then 7-10 days after start of final beta test (see above). Thereafter we would finalize the API for the exchanges and gpu miner. Thereafter solving the other open (and new) tickets.

I know some of you are frustrated with our timeline and our ETA statements in the past. Software developement is hard to estimate, especially in such a field. Nevertheless if we can meet the launch's eta above, then we created a new crypto from scratch within less than 9 months. I think that is actually pretty good anyway with so few manpower. With the combination of PoS and PoW we created more work than deciding for one way uniquely as well. The chain async bug ate up about ~ a month of work in sum as well.
Last but not least there is a high responsibility for launching a crypto coin. We don't want to rush a buggy client.
The claim to have some work outsourced to willing community members is a nice idea, and we are glad for any help. However, we hardly can outsource any coding work at all. What we can do: make a contest for a website design. The winner will receive a bounty. That would include css,html,images but no further php logic since we will keep our php logic.


You can have 3 definite statements from me - you can quote them in future if you like:
- we dont want to release a buggy client at launch. Of course we cannot guarantee bug-freenes of the client (that would be impossible) but we do the best to have it solid before launch.
- mining won't start with only a cpu miner. We do not want to support large botnets. When mining starts then there will be a gpu miner solution which performs significant better than a i7 processor.
- We try to have the launch in early/mid september and the final beta test in late August. If we will not have eXocoin launched before 31th October 2014 then we will quit the project completely and refund all investments.


I hope you find my statements above reasonable. The deadline is needed to ensure that we don't try to delay it again and again as some kind of strategy or whatever.  The next weeks will be full of hard work and the business trip is bad timed. Please understand that we will focus on the development and I won't be able to catch up all those dozens of pms, messages here and mails in-time.
I also hope that you feel better with a new eta (ok they dont mean that much I guess...) and especially with a deadline.
That said I will from time to time continue to write here about progress, and within the bugtracker, twitter and our homepage.


best regards
eXocoin

+1 Completely agree with you

What about our escrow option?
If there is prerelease trading, what if dev doesn´t deliver?
How should that work?


I think we shouldn´t talk about prerelease trading, I think we should talk with the dev to release exo.
If it is not stable alright, but we don´t need every gimmick and feature at the beginning.
Dev should work on the absolutly necessary things, release, and move on with the development.

By the way, just so that it is obvious from what angle I am getting at this:

Before the second round of funding was started, eXo-coin himself made an ETA:



He is the guy that was most capable to make an educated guess. I on the other hand just took his word for it and didn't mind a few push-backs, because that happens. But now we are nearly 4 months later and not only is there no launch, also the requests for pre-launch trading are turned down...

Judge for yourself, if I am out-of-line and unreasonable.

2016 , it is a long time to go and we still do not know what will happen as that time.

Yes I am selling most of my altcoins because I need to spend my time on other things and not 24/7 with cryptos, that is mostly the reason for selling now.

Everyone has an agenda, that is quite obvious, but I don't see why your agenda is more important than mine. I just try to make my point, that I don't think a pre-release trading would hurt eXo.

Also fud is defined as "Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt". How exactly am I falling in one of those categories? I am just stating facts. ETA was pushed so many times, and now there isn't even one. Not even if we are launching in this calendar year.

I remember you on the NODE thread, here's what you said:


As you can see, you are probably going through financial hardship.

I understand, sometimes we all need a little extra cash but pushing a pre-release to benefit yourself is very selfish.

How about finding other ways to make your money?

edit: Hostile in what way? I just asked you to stop with your selfish fudding, nothing else.  Go outside and deal with the real world, then comeback and talk.

edit2: I erased the other post because I figured out what you are trying to do when I remembered your post on the NODE thread, I was trying to correct myself.

I am not a fudder I am sarcastic to show some flaws. Or are you happy with the current update schedule?

People have no reliable way to know what any ETA will be. And I am not talking about specific days, but months....

Also, >50% of exo holders are NXTers, and they are not hostile like you are.

I am part of the market and I for one want a prerelease trading. Until now there are exactly 5 people against it, just because they are the loudest, doesn't make them right.

Edit: lol, now it looks like I am arguing with myself

Yes lets just wait for... oh I don't know, because there is no timeframe. But hey maybe 2016?

ANY UPDATES?!

the only logical solution that makes sense 

+1
no AE, no NFD.

+1
Continue to wait

I personally prefer to wait than have it listed on an AE ...