I think the matchfixers targeted Fairlay because of the high limits/no license.
Topic: Potential Match Fixing involving Finnish teams FC Futura and Ilves-Kissat (Read 2839 times)
August 05, 2024, 02:48:35 PM
Some bookies still offering odds on FC Futura......
I think the matchfixers targeted Fairlay because of the high limits/no license.
I think the matchfixers targeted Fairlay because of the high limits/no license.
August 02, 2024, 11:54:45 PM
Interesting! This takes this entire crazy case into a completely different direction. So much evidence clearly puts Fairlay in the right and the gambler in the wrong, but they could have definitely handled this entire situation in a better manner.
They have earned back my trust for sure, but they really need to communicate better in order to earn back the trust of other forum members.
What did Fairlay do wrong? Fairlay asked for one arbiter in every one of their posts. No one wanted to do it. Fairlay didn’t want a 3 person panel or for the case to be handled in public. Fairlay wanted to share evidence with one person in private. They found an outside arbiter to handle the case and stopped posting.They have earned back my trust for sure, but they really need to communicate better in order to earn back the trust of other forum members.
The misunderstanding is that people kept posting for over a month after Fairaly left thinking that Fairlay was coming back in the thread. Fairlay even posted they weren’t coming back.
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nor any further information shared until these investigations are completed.
August 02, 2024, 11:07:30 AM
Interesting! This takes this entire crazy case into a completely different direction. So much evidence clearly puts Fairlay in the right and the gambler in the wrong, but they could have definitely handled this entire situation in a better manner.
They have earned back my trust for sure, but they really need to communicate better in order to earn back the trust of other forum members.
They have earned back my trust for sure, but they really need to communicate better in order to earn back the trust of other forum members.
August 01, 2024, 09:03:53 PM
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31.7. 11:20
A football club in the fourth tier of Finnish football has become a tool of organised criminals involved in sports betting, according to Turun Sanomat.
TS interviewed Francesco Baranca, a sports integrity expert, who follows live betting markets during sports events to try and identify manipulation.
He says that one club's performances this season can only be explained by criminal involvement.
"The numbers are so absurd that there's no doubt about the manipulation," said Baranca. "The games are one hundred percent manipulated, you can't explain them any other way."
https://yle.fi/a/74-20102346 A football club in the fourth tier of Finnish football has become a tool of organised criminals involved in sports betting, according to Turun Sanomat.
TS interviewed Francesco Baranca, a sports integrity expert, who follows live betting markets during sports events to try and identify manipulation.
He says that one club's performances this season can only be explained by criminal involvement.
"The numbers are so absurd that there's no doubt about the manipulation," said Baranca. "The games are one hundred percent manipulated, you can't explain them any other way."
July 31, 2024, 07:14:04 AM
It seems just today Finnish local news started to talk about this. It took time probably because corruption is rather unusual in Finland because ton of regulatory oversight and government monolopy on gambling, so accusations like this have to be backed up before leaping to accusations. But if i understood correctly, these matches weren't part of the official veikkaus list, so they flew under the radar anyway.
July 21, 2024, 12:31:19 PM
so funny lol
if you are not affiliatted with them, how do you know they are not affiliatted with rusians?
if you are not affiliatted with them, how do you know they are not affiliatted with rusians?
July 21, 2024, 05:43:15 AM
Edit- The Russian affiliation accusation is wrong. Fairlay posted there’s an ongoing investigation. We should let it play out.
July 20, 2024, 10:33:39 AM
there is some talk fairlay has russian money in them that would certainly explain all the ukrainian hate
This kind of racism is not the case on this topic because we all knew that they are just avoiding to pay the user because of the unique betting style involved on a questionable match.
This thread was already concluded since both party involved doesn’t communicate already on this thread. This should be locked already or else this will be used for discussion of general match fixing accusation.
July 20, 2024, 10:27:49 AM
Good afternoon ! I'm from Ukraine. To be honest, I have not met people who would bet such huge (for our country) sums of money on matches of the lower leagues of Finland. Not everyone can bet $1,000 on the European Championship final. Either this guy is a millionaire and doesn't care about money, or this is a dirty deal. I often saw a message offering to buy accounts. In our country, match-fixing scandals also often occur. This is especially true for youth teams. This is how the U19 team from the youth championship was punished 2 years ago. Their players played fixed matches. And there are many more similar stories. I'm just too lazy to look for them
Your points make a lot of sense, but this doesn't 100% prove that the gambler in question cheated though which is why there was always a chance that they robbed him off his big winnings.Also, if they have issues with such low level leagues, they never should have offered them in the first place. They are the only proper crypto betting exchange currently which is why it's sad to see them behave in this manner.
July 20, 2024, 08:38:29 AM
there is some talk fairlay has russian money in them that would certainly explain all the ukrainian hate
July 13, 2024, 12:58:32 PM
This whole thing was a big misunderstanding. Fairlay posted 6 times, in every post, that they wanted one arbiter. The evidence in the first post was there to see if someone could handle the case, not try the case in public.
Fairlay’s sole purpose of the thread was to find one arbiter and they were paying .005 BTC.
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No one here wanted to arbitrate. After approximately two weeks Fairlay found another party to arbitrate and left. After Fairlay left, posters kept wanting to try the case here in public with a 3 man panel. Posters kept asking questions of Fairlay. After not getting a response from Fairlay, they started a smear campaign and fabricated reasons for Fairlay's departure.
Fairlays posts anlways asking for an arbiter.
First post May 29
Fairlay’s sole purpose of the thread was to find one arbiter and they were paying .005 BTC.
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they suggested three mediator to ensure neutrality,
they never suggested a 3 man panel. This type of thinking caused the whole problem.No one here wanted to arbitrate. After approximately two weeks Fairlay found another party to arbitrate and left. After Fairlay left, posters kept wanting to try the case here in public with a 3 man panel. Posters kept asking questions of Fairlay. After not getting a response from Fairlay, they started a smear campaign and fabricated reasons for Fairlay's departure.
Fairlays posts anlways asking for an arbiter.
First post May 29
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If you feel qualified to handle the case, you may apply in this thread.
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We are still looking for a reputable arbitrator to settle this between us.
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@newfish1 wouid you agree to have askgamblers.com as arbitrator in this case?
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And we are still looking for an arbitrator. It can be anyone with some online reputation in the sector. We reached out to Sportsbookreview. AskGamblers unfortunately refused.
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Anyway, we will wait for arbitrator's decision and will follow suit.
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We were contacted by another party who was working for a Betting Integrity Unit and hopefully can help us find the best arbitrator with the necessary experience
Last post saying they aren't sharing anymore and they left
I don’t get paid by Fairlay. Fairlay didn’t ask me to post. Even if I were a Fairlay employee, the facts don’t change.
the post was edited to make it easier.
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Just one arbitrator should be enough.
Last post saying they aren't sharing anymore and they left
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nor any further information shared until these investigations are completed.
I don’t get paid by Fairlay. Fairlay didn’t ask me to post. Even if I were a Fairlay employee, the facts don’t change.
the post was edited to make it easier.
July 13, 2024, 09:11:27 AM
Seems like these Fairlay clowns left this thread as well as the site for good. Last post over a month ago, last time online "Last Active: June 26, 2024" .
Fair to assume the bit their own ass opening this thread. Making bold accusations and statements without any proof.
Sad to see that a site like this is acting in such a way but guess we have to get used to this these days, very sad.
I think I will unwatch this thread now since I honesty doubt they will come back or even reconsider their actions. The reputation is damaged anyway, they will just continue with this behaviour and hopefully pay the price at some point. People should be aware of this though!
July 13, 2024, 07:54:36 AM
Hello, sorry if it's a bit out of topic. Peeps... Rating Place made a statement on other thread assessing my response about this case which I believe is rather untrue and potentially misleading. I am here to straighten the record,
Let's break it down, there are three points about me that, as far as my mind serves me, is not correct.
First and the most obvious, not necessarily about me and not necessarily a lie, thus I am not marking it in red, instead an underline,
"They didn't want a 3 panel board since it stated in their email that they were looking for one arbiter."
I believe this is what the entire thread overseer understood, that they wanted to get a thing resolved, and they suggested three mediator to ensure neutrality, far as I know, it's not even me who suggested it, so not sure why it's held against me.
Second, You tried to force rules upon Fairlay to post publicly and a 3 man board would decide., point us out, Peeps, point us out to the post where I tried to force rules upon fairlay.
Third, but you decided to make a decision without any evidence, kindly point us out to my post where I decide against fairlay without any evidence.
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This is my last post in this thread since I've asked you to stop nitpicking my every post. I've also asked to take Fairlay to the Fairlay thread. You want to post it here. Now you are being untruthfull about Fairlay. Fairlay asked efaltis to arbitrate, he said "no". Fairlay asked me to recommend and arbiter. I recommended you since Fairlay wanted a sole arbiter so as not to post private information to the public. You didn't accept. They didn't want a 3 panel board since it stated in their email that they were looking for one arbiter. Paraphrasing, they wanted someone to apply so that they could be vetted and heard privately. You tried to force rules upon Fairlay to post publicly and a 3 man board would decide. Fairlay posted multiple times that they were looking for an arbiter to apply by email. Fairlay has all the evidence, but you decided to make a decision without any evidence. It's now all out there in public. The names, the teams and associations of the fixed matches. Some books are no longer accepting wagers from teams. I'm out.
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Now, Fairlay.
To say that we [or I] did not give them a chance to provide evidence is extremely misleading. They came, asking for arbitrator, the overseers suggest a panel of three mediators to maintain fairness, the player nominates two, Fairlay withdraw their request of arbitration for their own reason.
To say that we [or I] did not give them a chance to provide evidence is extremely misleading. They came, asking for arbitrator, the overseers suggest a panel of three mediators to maintain fairness, the player nominates two, Fairlay withdraw their request of arbitration for their own reason.
This is my last post in this thread since I've asked you to stop nitpicking my every post. I've also asked to take Fairlay to the Fairlay thread. You want to post it here. Now you are being untruthfull about Fairlay. Fairlay asked efaltis to arbitrate, he said "no". Fairlay asked me to recommend and arbiter. I recommended you since Fairlay wanted a sole arbiter so as not to post private information to the public. You didn't accept. They didn't want a 3 panel board since it stated in their email that they were looking for one arbiter. Paraphrasing, they wanted someone to apply so that they could be vetted and heard privately. You tried to force rules upon Fairlay to post publicly and a 3 man board would decide. Fairlay posted multiple times that they were looking for an arbiter to apply by email. Fairlay has all the evidence, but you decided to make a decision without any evidence. It's now all out there in public. The names, the teams and associations of the fixed matches. Some books are no longer accepting wagers from teams. I'm out.
Let's break it down, there are three points about me that, as far as my mind serves me, is not correct.
First and the most obvious, not necessarily about me and not necessarily a lie, thus I am not marking it in red, instead an underline,
"They didn't want a 3 panel board since it stated in their email that they were looking for one arbiter."
I believe this is what the entire thread overseer understood, that they wanted to get a thing resolved, and they suggested three mediator to ensure neutrality, far as I know, it's not even me who suggested it, so not sure why it's held against me.
Second, You tried to force rules upon Fairlay to post publicly and a 3 man board would decide., point us out, Peeps, point us out to the post where I tried to force rules upon fairlay.
Third, but you decided to make a decision without any evidence, kindly point us out to my post where I decide against fairlay without any evidence.
July 12, 2024, 07:37:17 AM
Good afternoon ! I'm from Ukraine. To be honest, I have not met people who would bet such huge (for our country) sums of money on matches of the lower leagues of Finland. Not everyone can bet $1,000 on the European Championship final. Either this guy is a millionaire and doesn't care about money, or this is a dirty deal. I often saw a message offering to buy accounts. In our country, match-fixing scandals also often occur. This is especially true for youth teams. This is how the U19 team from the youth championship was punished 2 years ago. Their players played fixed matches. And there are many more similar stories. I'm just too lazy to look for them
July 12, 2024, 04:17:07 AM
What about the other 4 fixed matches.
why are u asking me?
go check yourself and you will see that every match mentioned was heavily beted on (judging from the big moves of the odds) before the game
July 12, 2024, 04:13:59 AM
https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2023/05/18/finland/kakkonen/pk-35-ry/futura/4032669/
same team, previous tournament. 1-6 result. I guess Ucrainians disguised themselves as fins, as i dont see a single one in that roster. And there are many similar results for Futura in that tournament with ucrainians playing with fin last names
https://talkimg.com/images/2024/07/12/o8clH.png
same team, previous tournament. 1-6 result. I guess Ucrainians disguised themselves as fins, as i dont see a single one in that roster. And there are many similar results for Futura in that tournament with ucrainians playing with fin last names
https://talkimg.com/images/2024/07/12/o8clH.png
July 10, 2024, 02:30:43 AM
i have read the finish forum and before somebody brought up this thread the last posts were from 2021. They were as surprised as we were here but agreed that there is no evidence and nothing is done by federation or police.
actually there is no coincedence at all. If you check any odds archive services online you will see that those matches were betted hard long before the games. It can be seen from the very big odds movement on exactly the same outcomes as in this thread.
The fairlays situation here happened during the games. I guess the gambler in question saw the big betting on those results and decided to risk himself also.
So pretty damn huge coincidence to bet on those certain teams 
actually there is no coincedence at all. If you check any odds archive services online you will see that those matches were betted hard long before the games. It can be seen from the very big odds movement on exactly the same outcomes as in this thread.
The fairlays situation here happened during the games. I guess the gambler in question saw the big betting on those results and decided to risk himself also.
What about the other 4 fixed matches. Names, teams and how everyone is associated is now being posted on forums. Some books no longer take wagers on some of the teams. There were 5 fixed matches that the player bet. I'll go over the first one. There are 4 Ukranian players on Futura. All 4 were involved in questionable activity. Others were clean.
Kiffen vs. Futura
1. Sinitsyn kicked the ball in his own goal.
2. Bazhan received a red card. No other red cards for the team.
3. Moiseiev received a yellow card. No other yellow cards for the team.
4. Kasakovv goalkeeper gave up 6 goals.
July 08, 2024, 07:26:09 AM
actually there is no coincedence at all. If you check any odds archive services online you will see that those matches were betted hard long before the games. It can be seen from the very big odds movement on exactly the same outcomes as in this thread.
The fairlays situation here happened during the games. I guess the gambler in question saw the big betting on those results and decided to risk himself also.
The fairlays situation here happened during the games. I guess the gambler in question saw the big betting on those results and decided to risk himself also.
That is surely possible.
July 06, 2024, 05:37:07 PM
i have read the finish forum and before somebody brought up this thread the last posts were from 2021. They were as surprised as we were here but agreed that there is no evidence and nothing is done by federation or police.
actually there is no coincedence at all. If you check any odds archive services online you will see that those matches were betted hard long before the games. It can be seen from the very big odds movement on exactly the same outcomes as in this thread.
The fairlays situation here happened during the games. I guess the gambler in question saw the big betting on those results and decided to risk himself also.
So pretty damn huge coincidence to bet on those certain teams
actually there is no coincedence at all. If you check any odds archive services online you will see that those matches were betted hard long before the games. It can be seen from the very big odds movement on exactly the same outcomes as in this thread.
The fairlays situation here happened during the games. I guess the gambler in question saw the big betting on those results and decided to risk himself also.
July 01, 2024, 05:24:23 AM
Has it been mentioned that all these three teams in question from Finland are closely connected by same people from Ukraine? Anatolii Moisieiev who plays for Futura was the chairman of Ilves-Kissat first but that was against the rules (
) so he stepped down. Finnkurd is somewhat a farm team of Ilves-Kissat, or should be. And there is more... So pretty damn huge coincidence to bet on those certain teams
All this has been noticed well on local football forum too.
Feel free to join this thread and ask in English/Finnish/Swedish for more info as there are people with better knowledge about this than me: http://futisforum2.org/index.php?topic=119706.7925
) so he stepped down. Finnkurd is somewhat a farm team of Ilves-Kissat, or should be. And there is more... So pretty damn huge coincidence to bet on those certain teams All this has been noticed well on local football forum too.
Feel free to join this thread and ask in English/Finnish/Swedish for more info as there are people with better knowledge about this than me: http://futisforum2.org/index.php?topic=119706.7925
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