Topic: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ (Read 43589 times)

Indeed, managing a football club is no easy task and the pressure is immense. In terms of Manchester United, the tolerance towards the current management could perhaps be attributed to the legacy and sentimentality attached to the club. Firing a manager in the middle of a season is a big decision as it could destabilize the team. However, continuous poor performance might force the management's hand, especially if it puts the club's standing at risk. The focus of a manager needs to be on the current season and ensuring player fitness to achieve the best results. Evaluating players, their injuries and recovery times are critical aspects of team management. There's normally little margin for excuses in highly competitive football. The expectations put on Ten Hag are massive and only time will tell if he can live up to them.

Honestly, I don't care about the last season…the most important thing is this season but I’m not impressed with the United match so far.
But Ten Hag is still the manager so he has to do everything to get United back on the track and find their best form.
And ensure the players have fresh legs in the Manchester United squad for the many games ahead.
It’s important to stay informed about player injuries and recovery times, as they can affect team performance.
This season is the last chance for him. So, no more excuse

The manager is paid to manage the team well but if the manager fails to manage the team well then the management can definitely fire him and hire a new one it is a very natural phenomenon. Other clubs such as Bayern Munich, PSG, Chelsea have done this regularly but for Manchester United, sacking a manager seems to be a very tough move. They are tolerating the poor performance of the managers but they are not firing the manager. Last season Manchester United could have sacked this manager but instead of doing that they put their trust in this manager and this manager is constantly letting them down. With a full season left now it is up to the Manchester United management to decide whether the management will wait for the full season or fire this manager now.

It is very difficult to place a bet on this match, even though this match is a prestigious match but on the other hand, the odds are too big to place a bet on Man City but for Arsenal the odds are not favored but the income will be big if Arsenal is able to win, The City playing at home means that it is very difficult for Arsenal to get a win but on the other hand the ball is round no one knows who will win but I am sure Arsenal will be able to win.

4.70 is a big odd and it's worth taking the risk. For the past 2 seasons, Manchester city has never got hold of Arsenal in all the competitions. However, this season Arsenal has not proven that they are so great while Haaland of Manchester city has shown that he is in a beast mode. Betting by goals could be a good option anyways.

I am yet to understand Manchester United this season also. Maybe let's give Manchester United another 3 matches to see what ETH has for the team.

Alright let’s get things straight Ronaldo is the arguably the greatest footballer of all time and this is fact no one is denying that but that doesn’t mean everything he says about football to be final, he was wrong for the way he called out Manchester United and not that he was wrong in those claims you made, Piers Morgan who we all Know to be an Arsenal legend and obviously a Manchester United rival, was an old enemy of this same Ronaldo that you’re talking about, he was the journalist that brought Ronaldo’s rape case issue out when he was at Manchester United and obviously it was united that solved that problem, he hadn’t say anything good about Ronaldo before not until he asked those questions that Ronaldo definitely answered improperly.

As for Manchester United players not upto Ronaldo’s standard we all know that but mind you before Ronaldo signed for Manchester United they finished second in the table and lost the Europa league final which shows the were clearly on a different and better route going forward. The arrival of Ronaldo definitely changed the dimensions of the team because a new superstar was in the team and they needed to play to his pace and game, and this definitely changed the team. So I will say it again Ronaldo second coming was definitely a bad idea from onset.

The Manchester United performance still look unserious this season they way they end up their performance last season all the fan was thinking that this might be better; that they can improve their performance more to change their playing pattern, and their still repeated there poorly performing again this season: I don’t think Manchester United can have such promoting if they continue with this performances.

In this case I don’ think it’s too early to talk against Manchester United the reason why a lot of people are overly optimistic them is that, this is how they start their journey last with poorly performances and instead to improve before the season end; but they did not they still the that season with that same performed that’s even the fans where challenged them right early before the league can go far.

With the many negative assumptions about Erik Ten Hag's unsatisfactory performance at the beginning of this season, of course many people assume that he will be fired this season if he fails to bring Manchester United back to playing in the Champions League. Of course, there are many tough matches that Manchester United must go through this season, Arsenal is strong, Manchester City is the same, meaning they must be able to improve their good performance if they want to improve their reputation as the most successful team in the Premier League.

It is true that there are many efforts that must be proven to fans, especially when facing Crystal Palace where Manchester United must be able to continue the winning trend. Yes, their last match was of course quite terrible because Crystal Palace managed to beat Manchester United with a score of 4-0.

I am sure that their second match in the first half of this season is an opportunity for revenge for the big defeat last season. Crystal Palace must have understood very well how to beat Manchester United, especially since they are playing at home, of course the odds for both will not be much different.

Although in the previous match Arsenal could get 3 points when visiting Tottenham but I think for now against Manchester City the situation will be more different.

They will still be very troubled by player injuries, besides that Rice's red card is also currently sentenced to 2 matches making Arsenal even more difficult so I think it's not wrong if Manchester City are the favourites in this match because apart from them playing home in this match, they also certainly have a good situation where the squad is much more complex than Arsenal.

I will set aside a little of my money for this match because I think the odds of 1.78 are still very feasible for the current conditions especially with the difference in the location of the current player strength, 1.78 for Mancehsetr City in this big match is still very worth it to do.

Manchester United players are mediocre compared to the level of football played by Cristiano Ronaldo who's experienced and advanced in major phases of the game. There's absolutely no comparison for this player in Old Trafford currently. The ones that tried ended up in floppy form. You can't blamed Cristiano Ronaldo or Piers Morgan who's innocently pointing out sensible questions for Ronaldo to answer. We know how straight Ronaldo can in these scenarios, he's one of the most decorated playee in the European football history, he has created a name for himself in not just football but also the universe. We should not misinterpret Ronaldo but try our possible best to examined from his own view. Ronaldo is a top player that reaches out to his teammates and popularly known for banging goals.

First of all this Ronaldo Saga with Manchester United is always growing and it has divided the Fans but the truth still remains that even if Ronaldo was right airing such comments on public TV was definitely a wrong move and piers Morgan was definitely getting him into trouble, Ronaldo is a Manchester United legend and could have done better to air his opinion, i don’t know how you want to put it but Manchester United didn’t disrespect him and that’s why they peacefully terminated that contact which was a good way to path ways, you don’t expect him to be back into the club after saying those things even if they are true the channel it was wrong.

As for him blocking the progress of martial and Rashford i didn’t see this been raise rather what was said was that Manchester United played different with Ronaldo in the team, the game plan was to create chances for him as that was only way to accommodate Ronaldo and this wasn’t even a false claim because Solkjaer confirmed it him self, he even said players like Cavani were not having regular or enough playing time due to Ronaldo arrival. One thing I say is Ronaldo return was the biggest mistake both the player and the club made then. It even cost Manchester United the progress they were having under OLE

Don't get too emotional about Ronaldo, Erik ten Hag and Manchester United drama, it's just for entertainment. All three parties are to blame for the poor relationship between the coach and Ronaldo. Ronaldo wouldn't have criticised the club openly, he was remarketing them. Don't forget that United is a business brand and he receives his pay from them. His negative comments about the club can scare away investors from partnering with them .

The coach was also at fault because he failed to give a legend like Ronaldo the special treatment he deserves. He should know that most of the best coaches in the world developed the skills of managing players like Ronaldo. Lastly, the management of the club will take some part of the plan for forcing Ronaldo on the coach. He told the club that the Portuguese captain didn't fit in his style of play. They would have sought means to let the striker leave instead of allowing him to remain in the club.

Yeah, a really big game is waiting for us at the weekend!    It is a game between 2 favourites of the PL trophy also. As for my opinion, I wouldn't bet on any side here above all else.

My reasoning is that Arteta really knows what he is doing in the games against Manchester City. Just as the example you have given already.    He was Guardiola's assistant manager before and he knows how to play against him.

If Arteta stops Haaland too then it won't be easy for Manchester City to beat them. It really doesn't matter for Arteta if he plays away or not. It is all about solving your competitor's game nicely. As for betting, maybe BTTS might be my choice.

Under Ten Hag's management, Man United always gets difficulty to perform consistently in every match. IMO, the reason is about the quality of Man United squad and the tactics/strategy used by Ten Hag. In the early of this season, Man United already got 2 losses although they could win 2 matches. So, it is normal if people assume Man United will be difficult to finish in the top 4 because they got 2 losses in 4 matches. They were defeated by Brighton and Liverpool. How they can finish in the top 4 if they can't beat a strong team like Brighton and Liverpool? If they want to finish in the top 4, they also must consistent to win the match against strong teams. It looks impossible to finish in the top 4 if they only could get points against weak teams. Considering this fact, do you still believe Man United to surprise us and finish in the top 4? 

Yep. Leny Yoro, Matthijs de Ligt, Noussair Mazraoui, Manuel Ugarte, and Joshua Zirkzee are the new players of Man United this season. These players look having good quality and they are quite young. If these players can adapt well, Man United may improve their performance. However, I'm not really sure they will play immediately with their best in their first season. Many new players can play well in their second season. So, even if these new players can adapt well, it is quite doubtful that Man United can break the the top 4 position.

Off course they still have much to prove to there fans, because is not by winning a weak team like Southampton that just came out from religation and We feel that they have improved. However, just like as you have said earlier I think it is when they start to playing with big teams like man city, Arsenal, Aston villa, and Tottenham that we determine there improvement, because though they have already lost t o Brighton and Liverpool and they still have a though match against Crystal palace next week which we can not predict the winer yet because when ever they are playing with Crystal palace they normally find it difficult to win.

Manchester United have not been the same since Sir Alex Ferguson left. My vexation with the club is that Ronaldo was meant to move to Manchester City before he was convinced by SAF to return to Old Trafford as their golden boy. I think the presence of Ronaldo in the squad gave hope to the fans and that raised their expectations, they were probably thinking they would return to the Manchester United of old. So when they were not getting positive results, they turned on their golden boy.

You’re right, I don’t think ETH and Ronaldo were a good match. I’m glad he left United, there’s nothing he could have done for that team. ETH was given the opportunity to get his own squad together and we can see how well that is going.

That’s why the premier league is a no man’s league although Manchester City have been dominating for the past five or six seasons. The EPL is unpredictable because a small team that’s at the bottom of the table can cause trouble for a big side like Chelsea or Liverpool and even make them lose important points. Chelsea are gaining their form back, Enzo Maresca is building a strong squad. If they can sign a striker in January, their attack would be formidable. I just hope the internal issues in the club will not affect their performance.

Why do I feel I’m getting baited into a Ronaldo, Erik Ten Hag, Manchester United love triangle. Okay I give up. I accept all the blame. Erik Ten Hag is a the manager post SAF, my poor football knowledge is the reason why Manchester United has become a mid table club. My poor football knowledge is the reason Manchester United are underperforming and the managers comes out to say we are not going to finish top 4 season. ETH all the way! I hope you follow him to his next club when he gets sacked.

dayummmm!!! New Castle is fire! Smaller teams have always been a thorn in the ass for bigger teams in the premier league... We've been used to that already so, I believe, that's actually why Chelsea has decided to pick up fine form this season. They can't even afford to lose 3 matches in a row like what happened last season.

For man united, the story might be a little bit different; I understand that the manger is really trying his best to avoid any unforseen eventualities, but they're still struggling with their performances which makes everything hard for them ... Do I really have to stand on what Christiano Ronaldo said about his former team, man united? What do I know.

The top four spot will be a tough competition this season… it will be survival of the fittest this season because not only are the regular five teams are playing well this season, Aston Villa, Newcastle United, Brighton and also Chelsea are all doing better. It is going to be a tough battle for Manchester United. They already said they are not going to make it to the top 4 this season but the manager might be playing mind games. Manchester United have to sit up or they will still not finish top four at the end of the seasons.