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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on Today at 11:06:01 AM

Liverpool still move on comfortably in the PL. They have a 6-point lead over Arsenal with a missing game at the same time. This is a great advantage in the title race.

I wasn't expecting Arsenal to lose that 2-0 lead vs Aston Villa that easy. I saw a clear win there but they surprised all of us. Arsenal still don't look ready for a PL title if you ask me. Aside from that they should sign a top striker immediately...

Great work done by Manchester City! 6-0 win is impressive but I still don't want to have big expectations from them yet. Because their nightmare is just starting if you examine their upcoming games in the PL. Grin

If it were previous seasons like two seasons ago. I would have beat my chest and say that Manchester city will beat all the opponents in their up coming fixtures. They only match that would have given to them little problem is that of Liverpool. But Manchester city haven't really looked their best for some time now, but I'm sure they will win majority of these games. They are gradually getting their form back. But starting with Chelsea Manchester city will win them. As I have carefully looked that these fixtures, Manchester city are only likely to drop points against Liverpool and Tottenham. These two teams always know how to play Manchester city, especially Tottenham. In recent times they have been having the upper hands against Manchester city. That of Liverpool might likely end in a draw. As for Arsenal there is nothing they can do against Manchester city, they either lose the 3 points or settle for a draw.

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Quote from: ndutndut on Today at 08:26:16 AM

Indeed, defeating Ispwich does not mean that the Man City team will be more stable because playing against a team at the bottom of the standings is not a benchmark. However, even so, this will be a moment for Man City to rise, and make no mistake, Man City is always like that every season entering the second half they will be consistent and slowly improve their position in the standings. If you look at the standings, catching Liverpool at the top of the standings will be impossible, but if Man City manages to finish in second or third place, it will also be an extraordinary revival for Man City.

Maybe the next proof, if they win against PSG in the UCL & win against Chelsea in the EPL. So February, is proof of Man City is still consistent or not. If Man City manages to get through it then it can be said that Man City has risen. But if they lose or draw just once, it means that Man City has not risen yet, Man City is still slumped.

It would have been a total disgrace if Manchester City didn't win IPswitch town, a team that has played 22 games and has only won juat 3 is something Guardiola shouldn't have even worry about. I know he wouldn't take the chance since the club has been in a bad place for weeks now but this match is like a bonus for them because it wasn't coordinated, I was just pitying them for been in Premier League and they are trying hard not to be demoted to division 2 but they will obviously go back definitely.

I will like to see the outcome of their performance in ucl before they face Chelsea in their next match, this week is going to be tight. I don't know what's going to be the outcome but you never can tell. It's their last chance in the UCL, if they lose this one then they are going home, they wouldn't be able to play off again and they will be left with the Premier League only which is no longer sure, Liverpool is too good to lose to Manchester City.

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Quote from: Issa56 on Today at 10:42:45 AM

Let’s see how Manchester City will be playing in their subsequent matches, let’s see if they will be able to get a win against PSG in the Champions League, and let’s see if they will be able to get a win against Chelsea in their next Premier League match, but seriously, Manchester City has a difficult fixture ahead of them, let’s see how they will perform in those matches.

Manchester City triumph in their last match is what is most important for them now, they need to continue having that confidence in their fight for the premier league trophy this season. I have seen them been in their worst this season for the first time after Pep Guardiola took over as the manager of the team. I don’t see them going to perform less in the premier league as they did this season. Manchester City should try and win the match in the champions league against PSG, that will give them a boost in the champions league fight also.

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Manchester City has no chance of winning the Premier League title. So City should now try their best to win the next two matches of the Champions League. Otherwise, Manchester City will be eliminated from the race to win the Champions League title. Guardiola is an experienced coach. He is well aware of the weaknesses of his squad. I think he is planning his strategy to win the two matches of the Champions League. Premier League matches will now be Guardiola's second priority.

The premier league fight is not the priority of Manchester City and they are not going to fight for two titles this season because they have become very weak this season and cannot cope with maximum performance this season. They are not going to do much as they did last season because of the series of losses this season which has made them less of what we use to see them before. Winning one trophy this season should be an achievement to Manchester City because of their poor form this season.

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Quote from: ndutndut on Today at 08:26:16 AM

Indeed, defeating Ispwich does not mean that the Man City team will be more stable because playing against a team at the bottom of the standings is not a benchmark. However, even so, this will be a moment for Man City to rise, and make no mistake, Man City is always like that every season entering the second half they will be consistent and slowly improve their position in the standings. If you look at the standings, catching Liverpool at the top of the standings will be impossible, but if Man City manages to finish in second or third place, it will also be an extraordinary revival for Man City.

Maybe the next proof, if they win against PSG in the UCL & win against Chelsea in the EPL. So February, is proof of Man City is still consistent or not. If Man City manages to get through it then it can be said that Man City has risen. But if they lose or draw just once, it means that Man City has not risen yet, Man City is still slumped.

Even though it is not a benchmark but in the end the positive results especially with a few wins in the EPL can add a good spirit for Manchester United especially when we realize that in the end seeing their match scheme getting better makes the situation still very favorable for Manchester City at this time.

Facing PSG, both clubs are still trying to want 3 points but of course with the spirit of Manchester City this time even though they are playing away, they still have a good thing now.
Their performance has returned, the scoring instinct for some players is also now starting to return so this can be a good situation for Mancehster City. Although PSG is also now starting to develop again in Ligue 1 but for the Champions League they are much worse than Manchecster City so I still feel that Manchester City can take a bigger role for the match than PSG.

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Quote from: ndutndut on Today at 08:26:16 AM

Maybe the next proof, if they win against PSG in the UCL & win against Chelsea in the EPL. So February, is proof of Man City is still consistent or not. If Man City manages to get through it then it can be said that Man City has risen. But if they lose or draw just once, it means that Man City has not risen yet, Man City is still slumped.

The Champions League and efforts to survive in the top four of the English Premier League standings are very difficult in the midst of their situation which is still not solid. Facing PSG in the Champions League on January 23 at the Parc des Princes is a must if they want to continue or survive in the UCL because PSG also really wants to be able to do a lot in this prestigious tournament.
In the English Premier League, Manchester City's position will most likely be shifted later when Chelsea plays Wolverhampton.

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There is a conspiracy theory going around that the bad results City had could be related to Pep's divorce. As far as we know it's finalized now, but if you go back and check when they were doing badly, and when they started to do better, we could assume that maybe things just got to a point where it can't be fixed and they started to break up and he left the house and so forth, which meant while it could have been years when they weren't happy or maybe it is a new thing we wouldn't know, but it became more official, like sued and all, right at the time when City started to do badly.

While nobody's personal life matters to us and should be cared, if it does impact the job they are getting millions of dollars for, then it becomes a bit more public situation. However, now it both looks to be changing, he is single, and the team is winning so what happens happened and it's in the past and I am sure that City will not have that much of a bad period again.

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Quote from: Mate2237 on Today at 11:28:14 AM

I see Manchester City going into another lossing rounds of matches because city is just trying to come back from a very difficult phase of their season due to injuries in part of players and even bad form so it will be difficult to come up against these top teams at this point of the season that they are struggling to get back to winning ways and gain their form back

Manchester City's opponents in the next four matches are very tough. If they want to stay in the competition, Manchester City will have to win all four matches. Manchester City will face PSG, Chelsea, Club Brugge and Arsenal respectively. If they want to stay in the Premier League competition, they will have to win against Chelsea and Arsenal. And if they want to ensure the Champions League playoffs, Manchester City will have to win against PSG and Club Brugge.

Manchester City has no chance of winning the Premier League title. So City should now try their best to win the next two matches of the Champions League. Otherwise, Manchester City will be eliminated from the race to win the Champions League title. Guardiola is an experienced coach. He is well aware of the weaknesses of his squad. I think he is planning his strategy to win the two matches of the Champions League. Premier League matches will now be Guardiola's second priority.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on Today at 11:06:01 AM

Liverpool still move on comfortably in the PL. They have a 6-point lead over Arsenal with a missing game at the same time. This is a great advantage in the title race.

I wasn't expecting Arsenal to lose that 2-0 lead vs Aston Villa that easy. I saw a clear win there but they surprised all of us. Arsenal still don't look ready for a PL title if you ask me. Aside from that they should sign a top striker immediately...

Great work done by Manchester City! 6-0 win is impressive but I still don't want to have big expectations from them yet. Because their nightmare is just starting if you examine their upcoming games in the PL. Grin

Looking at the picture story you added to your post, it's obviously clear that Manchester City's next six games in the English Premier League are going to be difficult fixtures and it'll take a lot of hard work from them to be able to stay in the top four after those games. Liverpool also have some difficult fixtures waiting for them in the English Premier League so it's safe to say that both Liverpool and Manchester City is going to have their most difficult fixtures in the next 6-7 weeks but at the end, I still expect Liverpool to remain at the top of the league till final day while the best Manchester City can do is to finish in the top four. They're definitely not a contender for the league title this season again for me

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Quote from: Mate2237 on Today at 11:28:14 AM

Looking at the fixtures that Manchester City is coming up against I will say that Manchester City really has a hard knot to crack if they plan to finish at the top four sport in the premier League this season because going through the opponents that city is build to coming up against it is obvious that they will definitely struggle as these opponents are tough oppositions to come by

I see Manchester City going into another lossing rounds of matches because city is just trying to come back from a very difficult phase of their season due to injuries in part of players and even bad form so it will be difficult to come up against these top teams at this point of the season that they are struggling to get back to winning ways and gain their form back

Seriously these are the real test that Manchester City have to face, this games are all top four contenders games and any lose against of them will falter their chances of actually qualifying for the top four. For me or this games had come by last month I can categorically say Manchester city might lose all of them except two. But right now even though I am not utterly convinced that they back fully I think they will take points from many of these games. The easy three games I think they will take points from base on form is the Tottenham, Chelsea, Arsenal and even probably Newcastle game. The first two are having troubles winning games at the moment which is seriously bad for their morale and Newcastle just lost heavily should they lose any game like that again it will affect them too.

These game though will boost Manchester City chances for top four finish if they manage to steal points off this guys and get done with fixtures like this. For me the earlier games like this are even done with the better

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on Today at 11:06:01 AM

Liverpool still move on comfortably in the PL. They have a 6-point lead over Arsenal with a missing game at the same time. This is a great advantage in the title race.

I wasn't expecting Arsenal to lose that 2-0 lead vs Aston Villa that easy. I saw a clear win there but they surprised all of us. Arsenal still don't look ready for a PL title if you ask me. Aside from that they should sign a top striker immediately...

Great work done by Manchester City! 6-0 win is impressive but I still don't want to have big expectations from them yet. Because their nightmare is just starting if you examine their upcoming games in the PL. Grin

Looking at the fixtures that Manchester City is coming up against I will say that Manchester City really has a hard knot to crack if they plan to finish at the top four sport in the premier League this season because going through the opponents that city is build to coming up against it is obvious that they will definitely struggle as these opponents are tough oppositions to come by

I see Manchester City going into another lossing rounds of matches because city is just trying to come back from a very difficult phase of their season due to injuries in part of players and even bad form so it will be difficult to come up against these top teams at this point of the season that they are struggling to get back to winning ways and gain their form back

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on Today at 11:06:01 AM

Liverpool still move on comfortably in the PL. They have a 6-point lead over Arsenal with a missing game at the same time. This is a great advantage in the title race.

I wasn't expecting Arsenal to lose that 2-0 lead vs Aston Villa that easy. I saw a clear win there but they surprised all of us. Arsenal still don't look ready for a PL title if you ask me. Aside from that they should sign a top striker immediately...

Great work done by Manchester City! 6-0 win is impressive but I still don't want to have big expectations from them yet. Because their nightmare is just starting if you examine their upcoming games in the PL. Grin

Not to mention the pressure of the Champions League match, Man City is also not so good there.
Man City must return to their focus of the game and try not to lose points in matches against strong teams. Chasing Liverpool will be quite far for Man City. Pep must try for Man City to get a good position this season. Man City cannot lose the top 4 standings.
I hope Man City does not get caught in a difficult situation again in the next few matches.

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Quote from: MK-74 on January 19, 2025, 03:07:04 PM

M.United and Tottenham lost tonight. Both teams continue their bad run. They are at the bottom of the league.

My advice to Manchester United and Tottenham fans is to find out after the game that their teams were beaten rather than watching the game live. It's difficult to see your team losing so many games at this time. Manchester United's defeat was the result of their poor defense and an error by the goalkeeper. I'm not sure what's wrong with Manchester United's manager, Amorim is just acting like Ten Hag, he doesn't believe Bayindir in Premier League games, but in other competitions, he can use him and allows Onana to concede unnecessary goals in Premier League.

Ange Postecoglou, the manager of Tottenham, stated that he usually wins a title in his second season, but it appears that he was unfamiliar with the team he arrived at last season because his second season has been worse than any previous manager's. I didn't think Tottenham would win against Everton because they've lost a lot this season, and the loss to Everton makes it 12 losses in the Premier League. If they lose the next home match against Leicester City, I'm confident they'll fire Ange Postecoglou.

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Liverpool still move on comfortably in the PL. They have a 6-point lead over Arsenal with a missing game at the same time. This is a great advantage in the title race.

I wasn't expecting Arsenal to lose that 2-0 lead vs Aston Villa that easy. I saw a clear win there but they surprised all of us. Arsenal still don't look ready for a PL title if you ask me. Aside from that they should sign a top striker immediately...

Great work done by Manchester City! 6-0 win is impressive but I still don't want to have big expectations from them yet. Because their nightmare is just starting if you examine their upcoming games in the PL. Grin

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Quote from: ndutndut on Today at 08:26:16 AM

Indeed, defeating Ispwich does not mean that the Man City team will be more stable because playing against a team at the bottom of the standings is not a benchmark.

Playing against a weak team like Ipswich Town can’t be used to conclude that Manchester City is back to form. Ipswich Town is a club that almost all teams have been winning. Ipswich town have been able to win just 3 matches this season, which is really a bad one, so i expected Manchester City to get a win against them even as Manchester City’s performance is not so good, so I am sure no one will be using Manchester City’s performance in the match to conclude that they are back to form, but if we can check Manchester City’s performance in their last 4 matches, then we can see that there is an improvement in Manchester City even as they are not stable yet.

Let’s see how Manchester City will be playing in their subsequent matches, let’s see if they will be able to get a win against PSG in the Champions League, and let’s see if they will be able to get a win against Chelsea in their next Premier League match, but seriously, Manchester City has a difficult fixture ahead of them, let’s see how they will perform in those matches.

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Quote from: baeva on January 19, 2025, 04:58:06 PM

It is too early to say that they have become stable, they play against outsiders and win, they need a real test of strength. Ispwich are 18th in the relegation zone, no wonder they won with such a defeat. Let's see what happens in a couple of matches and whether they keep this momentum going. A losing streak happens to any team, if they get through it, I'll be happy for them

Indeed, defeating Ispwich does not mean that the Man City team will be more stable because playing against a team at the bottom of the standings is not a benchmark. However, even so, this will be a moment for Man City to rise, and make no mistake, Man City is always like that every season entering the second half they will be consistent and slowly improve their position in the standings. If you look at the standings, catching Liverpool at the top of the standings will be impossible, but if Man City manages to finish in second or third place, it will also be an extraordinary revival for Man City.

Maybe the next proof, if they win against PSG in the UCL & win against Chelsea in the EPL. So February, is proof of Man City is still consistent or not. If Man City manages to get through it then it can be said that Man City has risen. But if they lose or draw just once, it means that Man City has not risen yet, Man City is still slumped.

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Nothing changed for Manchester United. They are still in their worst shape. They didn't improve anything since the Southampton game. Just like I said, Brighton didn't have mercy on them.

It sounds really harsh, because wow, the truth is that they played really bad, and now they have to think about doing things better, going out to play like that is the worst thing they can do, I think the coach has to change strategy, if he doesn't the team will go further and further down and that's not good, if the coach has to be changed then they should keep doing it, I insist on something, it's not the players, it's the management, if the coach doesn't do things right these games will continue to lose and lose more and more, they must act quickly, it's the PL, they can go down very badly.

The fact Manchester United is the fact that many should stop believing they are back after just few games to be honest. While Chelsea are in somewhat similar scenario, Chelsea case is much better and we can say it's the defense and the fact that the strikers waste good chances not ignoring the fact that even the wingers are not even trying to try their shot on goals but Manchester United case is way still much here, since they have more inconsistent players and can't even provide more goal chances than Chelsea.

While I will support blaming the management, the coach should not necessarily get the blame now since he just got to the club not quite long and he hasn't gotten any player of his choice, majority of these players where bought by Ten Hag and we can say many of them are not reliable. They need to find a way to get some of these players out of the club and then sign players he do need. Although since he came there have been little improvement especially in their performance in Europa league competition.

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Quote from: sotelorene on Today at 02:33:38 AM

we all know they are having a difficult time even before Ruben Amorim came so Amorim is still trying all he gats to see their ability and strength but Brighton winning Manchester united home and away is not good at all at least they would have just draw one.

The position they were in before the arrival of the new coach of Manchester United is still in the same position. They lost yet another match, this time to Brighton. While watching the match between Manchester United and Brighton yesterday, it seemed that Manchester United was weak in every aspect. They did not attack strongly in that match, as a result of which they managed to score only one goal.

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However, Everton performance some weeks back have really increased, they have drawn some of the big team and win some so winning Tottenham Hotspur yesterday I wasn't really surprised because they have improved a little and lastly we can not tell for sure if Manchester city has regain fully or completely untill we see there five straight wins against big teams that is only when I will be convinced that yes they have... But for now I still rest my case.

Everton's performance has not increased i.e. everton's performance is not favorable at all and even Tottenham's performance is not favorable at all. If you look at the statistics of some of their matches i.e. the last matches between them in the Premier League, you will get a clear idea. They have also lost many matches in a row so maybe it is clear that their performance has not improved. Tottenham played a bit better after half time and scored two goals in the 77th and 92nd minutes, otherwise they would have lost the match by a much bigger margin.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on January 18, 2025, 04:04:19 PM

Arsenal is just being unserious. This is the time they should be amassing points or even trying to get closer to the League Leaders Liverpool but guess what? They are just dropping points like it's no man's business.

These points may seem insignificant but towards the end of the season, they will wish they had won the Aston Villa game just like it happened last season

I believed Arsenal will hold on to the win at the end of the game but Arsenal will always find a way to hurt you no matter what. I was so disappointed with the result of the game. I can’t believe Arsenal had a chance once again to close the gap from Liverpool and we threw it away. It is so exhausting I must say with the level they are playing, Arsenal should be giving Liverpool tough competition but that’s not happening.

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Congrats to Everton. They successfully beat Tottenham and get three points. A bit surprised with their 3 goals lead during the first half. I thought they would be struggled, but performed beyond my prediction. They showed solid offence, and managed break through Tottenham's defensive line.

The second half is very different caused by Totteham did minor change, but impacted their performance a lot. So many pressures were coming to the Everton, but they able to keep the score 3:2.

What a game!!! Finally, they're far away from relegation zone.

It’s a really good game from Everton, it is not easy to play against Tottenham and win but they pulled it off they were lucky to go 3 goals up and were able to defend the goals till the end even though Tottenham got two goals back in the game. It will be a really good feeling for the players and the fans.

It is not that their game have been good but somehow they have managed to get themselves out of the relegation zone and I am sure they will try stay out till the end of the season.

It was really a tough game for them in the second half but Everton have always been good in defending. Their next fixture is also a tough one as they will travel to Brighton, as the away team they are not at advantage and winning Brighton will not be easy for them but at least after Brighton they will face Leicester City and will be the home team so i expect them to be able to win.

It was a hard game for Everton, but they managed to secure three points. They're now below Tottenham, and most likely surpass it. I can't believe they performed like a they really wanted to be far away from being overshadowed by relegation competition.

As for Tottenham, it's really unexpected result to saw how they played like shite, even worst than what they did last season. I guess they're in the dilemma whether to sack Ange or keep him. The lost against Everton has become their most painful result this season.

In the end, Tottenham is just Tottenham. They would never have winning mentality. They're such mediocre club.

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Quote from: davis196 on Today at 02:04:58 AM

Another humiliating defeat for Manchester United. This time against Brighton. I think that the main problem is Amorim insisting to play in a 3-4-3 formation. The players simply can't adapt to such formation, but Amorim doesn't care. United's midfielders are failing at dominating the game and United can't create goal opportunities. Onana also contributed for the bad result, reminding us that he definitely wasn't the best possible goalkeeper, to be signed by Ten Hag.

Manchester United current performance is indeed very sad, after winning their last two matches precisely now they are back down with a defeat to Brighton, so far they are still showing very poor consistency and even in the match against Brighton it is clear that their problem lies in a very poor defense and is easily exploited by the opponent, I personally see that Amorim has actually had a positive impact on their game even though so far he has not found the right strategy to be able to continue to use, so indeed he still needs time to continue to develop a strategy that suits his players, I think midfield and also defense should be Amorim main focus and if necessary maybe he should completely overhaul his current squad with players who meet the criteria and the game strategy especialy in defense line.

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