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Quote from: Zackz5000 on December 17, 2024, 08:47:09 AM

What is happening to Manchester City now is beyond pep Guardiola he has done everything he could to make sure he win every single game but is never working out he tried all has tactics and formation no way he even tried to put the blame on injured players but that is not what people want to hear now. Pep Guardiola has been great with Manchester City he has won the English premier league tittle 4 times in a row also won the UEFA Champions league tittle with Manchester City so I think something is wrong somewhere that they don't really want people to know because Manchester City has been in this condition before under the watch of pep Guardiola.

Liverpool may not win the English premier league tittle as you believe we still have teams like Chelsea and Arsenal who are still strong contenders of the English premier league tittle.

Yes, he is trying his hardest, it's just that players do not really care anymore, losing doesn't mean anything to them. They won enough, most of the people who are playing currently already won premier league many times, and even won treble one season, only a few players like Savinho didn't, and that is why I do not think they care. They are probably saying they deserve to just not care anymore, deserve to not defend properly, not chase after the ball, not run, not tire themselves out. They think they won enough to have one bad season, and that's what they are about to get.

I mean look at Liverpool, they had bad seasons and they had good seasons, sometimes you go up, sometimes you go down. This is why I am pretty sure that we are dealing with something that is getting much better and that should not be a big deal at all, it should be considered as City not really needing any win anymore and not caring about losing anymore, that's the entire situation.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 17, 2024, 12:10:30 PM

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Aston Villa (H) 3.44

Manchester City (A) 2.20

City is being favored to win the game in their away game against Villa. They get 2.20, which is quite decent. The problem is you can't really sure how consistent City's performance in the pitch. They wasted their chances to get three points from Manchester United due to a stupid mistake from their player.

I think thaty may also repeat it in the game against Villa. I have no confidence to pick them in this team, but i prefer to take Villa +1. I know, it's hard to imagine they win against CIty, though they play at home, but the chance is there.

Maybe, a dramatic game like what happened in the Derby of Manchester. Who knows City leads, then Aston take three points at the late game.

Manchester City are favoured like all the time but they always disappoint us in betting these days. Sad

I believe this is also a game which is likely to be the same. Aston Villa aren't also having a much better season maybe but they are going to play against the worst Manchester City in Guardiola era at the same time. Even if Aston Villa win here it wouldn't be shocking.

However my preference wouldn't be a bet on a side in this one. Instead, BTTS @1.52 looks decent to give it a chance. I hope to watch a game in which both sides score.

The possibility of both team scoring is very high. The only question should be, can Manchester city really score? Because the way they are playing is really scary, I don't know why you are saying that Manchester city is disappointing in betting these days, because I have been cashing out with Manchester city. It's just you that's not playing them in the way it will favour you. Pick Manchester city to lose and nothing will stop you from winning the bet. You know too well that they are not in a good form, but you are still playing them to win why? That's not how someone who wants to win a bet do. Imagine how much you would have won if you have been playing Manchester city to lose. Any team that Manchester city is playing, will always have up to 2 odds and above. Risking Manchester city to lose is a very good risk at present.

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Quote from: naira on December 17, 2024, 02:17:34 AM

This weekend will be another problem for Manchester City, they face Aston Villa who in terms of player quality are in their most solid mode. Aston Villa seriousness in the Champions League proves that the match against Manchester City must also be taken seriously. Imao, Pep Guardiola problems are not over after they lost to Manchester United, now they face a challenge that is not easy. Aston Villa is sure to be able to join in the party to give Pep Guardiola a surprise.

What are your predictions for this weekend matches?

Hahaha, it's funny how Manchester City is likely going to face another humiliation this coming week end. Everyone knows that Aston Villa is a threat to any team in the English Premier League As long as Emry Can is concerned. Last season it was this same Aston Villa that deprived Arsenal the opportunity to win the league and they won so many top teams. This time around, the aura of Manchester city is reduced. So, any team can get a good result from them.
I have always said that big teams winning is not always as a result if their good playing, but the fear other teams for them. Hence that fear is gone and every team begins to play you like an ordinary team, you could just be lossing. That is the case of Manchester city now.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on December 17, 2024, 02:17:45 PM

Quote from: Velvet78 on December 17, 2024, 12:10:30 PM

Manchester City are favoured like all the time but they always disappoint us in betting these days. Sad

I believe this is also a game which is likely to be the same. Aston Villa aren't also having a much better season maybe but they are going to play against the worst Manchester City in Guardiola era at the same time. Even if Aston Villa win here it wouldn't be shocking.

However my preference wouldn't be a bet on a side in this one. Instead, BTTS @1.52 looks decent to give it a chance. I hope to watch a game in which both sides score.

BTTS seems a likely winner because they’re both conceding goals regularly this season. Neither of them are close to the performances and results they were getting last season.

We all can agree that there is a little probability of BTTS not happening seeing their recent results.

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on December 17, 2024, 02:17:45 PM

Pep looks really stressed and under severe pressure, he isn't used to this kind of form in his management career. Sometimes eras end, it looks like this Manchester City team is long past its best.

Ironic as it seems Manchester City are in that phase of football notably experience by Chelsea Fc, where there are so many top players but sadly having many disappointing game.

Although I don't see Pep Guardiola as someone facing pressure of being sacked, Manchester City are more likely not thinking about that now. It is almost like when Klopp was having a really difficult time last two season and many never expected Liverpool to end up below top four thereby moving to Europa league tournament last season rather than the Champions league, Pep and his men will still come back stronger and that maybe likely this January when they sign additional players or maybe next season they will be dominating again.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on December 17, 2024, 02:17:45 PM

Quote from: Velvet78 on December 17, 2024, 12:10:30 PM

Manchester City are favoured like all the time but they always disappoint us in betting these days. Sad

I believe this is also a game which is likely to be the same. Aston Villa aren't also having a much better season maybe but they are going to play against the worst Manchester City in Guardiola era at the same time. Even if Aston Villa win here it wouldn't be shocking.

However my preference wouldn't be a bet on a side in this one. Instead, BTTS @1.52 looks decent to give it a chance. I hope to watch a game in which both sides score.

BTTS seems a likely winner because they’re both conceding goals regularly this season. Neither of them are close to the performances and results they were getting last season.

Pep looks really stressed and under severe pressure, he isn't used to this kind of form in his management career. Sometimes eras end, it looks like this Manchester City team is long past its best.

I personally have been avoiding betting on all Manchester city games because I usually will not get the balls to bet for the opposing side, as I always get this feeling that "maybe Manchester city will win this one", and on betting on them, they end up losing, and causing me to loose money, so, I decided the maybe the best thing to do is to hold my peace with all their games.

But then, coming to their coming game with Aston Villa, I will agree that BTTS is a more appropriate bet to go for. It's hard, almost impossible to tell which of this sides will win the match as not clubs are not in their best form this season, so "both team to score" seems more likely the winning bet here, I'm possibly going to try this one.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 17, 2024, 12:10:30 PM

Manchester City are favoured like all the time but they always disappoint us in betting these days. Sad

I believe this is also a game which is likely to be the same. Aston Villa aren't also having a much better season maybe but they are going to play against the worst Manchester City in Guardiola era at the same time. Even if Aston Villa win here it wouldn't be shocking.

However my preference wouldn't be a bet on a side in this one. Instead, BTTS @1.52 looks decent to give it a chance. I hope to watch a game in which both sides score.

BTTS seems a likely winner because they’re both conceding goals regularly this season. Neither of them are close to the performances and results they were getting last season.

Pep looks really stressed and under severe pressure, he isn't used to this kind of form in his management career. Sometimes eras end, it looks like this Manchester City team is long past its best.

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Quote from: asriloni on December 17, 2024, 10:52:44 AM

Aston Villa (H) 3.44

Manchester City (A) 2.20

City is being favored to win the game in their away game against Villa. They get 2.20, which is quite decent. The problem is you can't really sure how consistent City's performance in the pitch. They wasted their chances to get three points from Manchester United due to a stupid mistake from their player.

I think thaty may also repeat it in the game against Villa. I have no confidence to pick them in this team, but i prefer to take Villa +1. I know, it's hard to imagine they win against CIty, though they play at home, but the chance is there.

Maybe, a dramatic game like what happened in the Derby of Manchester. Who knows City leads, then Aston take three points at the late game.

Manchester City are favoured like all the time but they always disappoint us in betting these days. Sad

I believe this is also a game which is likely to be the same. Aston Villa aren't also having a much better season maybe but they are going to play against the worst Manchester City in Guardiola era at the same time. Even if Aston Villa win here it wouldn't be shocking.

However my preference wouldn't be a bet on a side in this one. Instead, BTTS @1.52 looks decent to give it a chance. I hope to watch a game in which both sides score.

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Quote from: AprilioMP on December 17, 2024, 07:20:18 AM

Quote from: Rampagoe004 on December 17, 2024, 06:16:35 AM

Aston Villa in the match against Manchester City has a big chance of winning depending on how they take advantage of the opportunity to take 3 points from Manchester City. Aston Villa is indeed in good form and the opposing team is not an easy team to beat, Manchester City is in mental trouble again because of consecutive defeats. Aston Villa can take the opportunity in this condition.

It's not easy for both of them to beat each other. I opened one of the online sites to see the second meeting and I could predict that this fight was not an easy match when competing at the Aston Villa headquarters.
Aston Villa has just received a defeat in the last match against Nottingham Forest after in the previous three matches they were able to win. While Manchester City, they have just been defeated by Mancheter United.
Manchester City's performance is not good with a series of results that are not in accordance with expectations.
I think, only need additional sources to analyze before betting.

Although at this time we see a poor performance from manchester city, but we also cannot rule out the possibility that they could rise in the match against aston villa later, aston villa has so far shown a solid performance and the ability to compete with big teams, but the defeat to nottingham also shows that they still have weaknesses, so I think manchester city also has a good chance to win or at least get a draw aston villa home later, the bigmatch match between aston villa vs manchester city in my opinion will run very tight and allow unexpected results for us.

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Quote from: naira on December 17, 2024, 02:17:34 AM

This weekend will be another problem for Manchester City, they face Aston Villa who in terms of player quality are in their most solid mode. Aston Villa seriousness in the Champions League proves that the match against Manchester City must also be taken seriously. Imao, Pep Guardiola problems are not over after they lost to Manchester United, now they face a challenge that is not easy. Aston Villa is sure to be able to join in the party to give Pep Guardiola a surprise.

What are your predictions for this weekend matches?

Aston Villa (H) 3.44

Manchester City (A) 2.20

City is being favored to win the game in their away game against Villa. They get 2.20, which is quite decent. The problem is you can't really sure how consistent City's performance in the pitch. They wasted their chances to get three points from Manchester United due to a stupid mistake from their player.

I think thaty may also repeat it in the game against Villa. I have no confidence to pick them in this team, but i prefer to take Villa +1. I know, it's hard to imagine they win against CIty, though they play at home, but the chance is there.

Maybe, a dramatic game like what happened in the Derby of Manchester. Who knows City leads, then Aston take three points at the late game.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on December 16, 2024, 01:17:01 PM

Guardiola sometimes says the injury list is one of the reasons why they are struggling. However I also agree that there is something beyond that behind this very poor form. Sad

He celebrated early after getting ahead. Because he knows how bad they have been recently especially defensively. I can't say they are great in the attacking area also of course.

It looks like this is really the season for a different club to lift the PL trophy. I'd like to see Chelsea doing it. Roll Eyes

If I'm not mistaken, Rodri is the only player who is not among the players Guardiola used last season. Can they claim that Rodri is the only player who helped them win the trophy last season? Guardiola has no reason for how poorly they performed this season because they still have the same players who helped them lift the trophy last season. Even Guardiola, who I believe used the injured players as an excuse, is unable to figure out the reason for Manchester City's poor performance this season, with the fact that their midfield is still good with the players available. Aside from Chelsea and Liverpool, I don't believe any other club has a chance to win the Premier League this season.

Quote from: el kaka22 on December 16, 2024, 04:00:31 PM

Amorim managing to beat City in both teams is a great fun information. Not a lot of people can do that, and it's like nearly just a month difference, month and a half at most, and he did that with both different teams that should have lost as well.

Amorim's two wins against Guardiola with a different team prove that he is an experienced manager who knows how to beat Guardiola. Amorim had won two games against Guardiola, and both times they had come from behind to defeat Manchester City. Everyone was shocked by Amorim's back-to-back victories over Guardiola since no manager can do it, and Amorim didn't use any of his right wingers, yet they still beat Manchester City. Honestly, Manchester City has been a laughing matter this season.

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Quote from: Cookdata on December 16, 2024, 01:33:07 PM

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Guardiola sometimes says the injury list is one of the reasons why they are struggling. However I also agree that there is something beyond that behind this very poor form. Sad

He celebrated early after getting ahead. Because he knows how bad they have been recently especially defensively. I can't say they are great in the attacking area also of course.

It looks like this is really the season for a different club to lift the PL trophy. I'd like to see Chelsea doing it. Roll Eyes

The guy is just using silly excuses to cover up his failures. How many times has he used uncompleted players like absence of Haaland, De Bruyne, Rodri and many more to win matches, it's now that they are facing difficulties he want to use injuries to cover his incompetency. It's normal to lose and you can't help it, he just can't believe he won 4 Premier League in a row and then fall down like the way they are doing this season but they aren't the first to see under performance.

He was using Rodri absence some days ago in an interview and I was feeling shame for him, you can't made it up like you are just a novice, he has won Champions League before now, I don't know why he is trying to explain to people he doesn't owe any explanation, it will only makes him weak and weaker and so the team will continue to fall because other teams will comes hard on them at any given opportunities.

We have no doubt that the Manchester City manager is capable enough but the team has not been performing well under this manager ever since Manchester City extended his contract. The Manchester City manager made some wrong decisions in the transfer window and he thought he would lead the team to a good position with his skills but he may have forgotten that along with his skills he needs good players in key positions on the field. Manchester City's midfield is not very good but still Manchester City did not buy any midfielders in the transfer window I would say it was a wrong move for them.
Manchester City's current performance reminds me of PSG because once PSG strengthened all positions but forgot to strengthen the midfield, Manchester City is doing the same thing now.

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Quote from: davis196 on December 17, 2024, 02:35:40 AM

Manchester City is facing problems in court. Maybe this is a big reason why the team can't concentrate and win more matches. I can't believe that Pep Guardiola suddenly became incompetent and mediocre. He is one of the best managers in the world.
I'm beginning to lose my confidence that Liverpool is going to win the Premier League. The team from Merseyside is having problems in defense and they've lost points against weaker teams like Fulham and Newcastle. Maybe Chelsea will try to attack the first place in 2025. It seems that the transfer madness of Chelsea's American owner is gone and the new Chelsea manager Enzo Maresca would become one of the best young football managers in the world.

What is happening to Manchester City now is beyond pep Guardiola he has done everything he could to make sure he win every single game but is never working out he tried all has tactics and formation no way he even tried to put the blame on injured players but that is not what people want to hear now. Pep Guardiola has been great with Manchester City he has won the English premier league tittle 4 times in a row also won the UEFA Champions league tittle with Manchester City so I think something is wrong somewhere that they don't really want people to know because Manchester City has been in this condition before under the watch of pep Guardiola.

Liverpool may not win the English premier league tittle as you believe we still have teams like Chelsea and Arsenal who are still strong contenders of the English premier league tittle.

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Quote from: Rampagoe004 on December 17, 2024, 06:16:35 AM

Aston Villa in the match against Manchester City has a big chance of winning depending on how they take advantage of the opportunity to take 3 points from Manchester City. Aston Villa is indeed in good form and the opposing team is not an easy team to beat, Manchester City is in mental trouble again because of consecutive defeats. Aston Villa can take the opportunity in this condition.

It's not easy for both of them to beat each other. I opened one of the online sites to see the second meeting and I could predict that this fight was not an easy match when competing at the Aston Villa headquarters.
Aston Villa has just received a defeat in the last match against Nottingham Forest after in the previous three matches they were able to win. While Manchester City, they have just been defeated by Mancheter United.
Manchester City's performance is not good with a series of results that are not in accordance with expectations.
I think, only need additional sources to analyze before betting.

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Quote from: davis196 on December 17, 2024, 02:35:40 AM

Manchester City is facing problems in court. Maybe this is a big reason why the team can't concentrate and win more matches. I can't believe that Pep Guardiola suddenly became incompetent and mediocre. He is one of the best managers in the world.
I'm beginning to lose my confidence that Liverpool is going to win the Premier League. The team from Merseyside is having problems in defense and they've lost points against weaker teams like Fulham and Newcastle. Maybe Chelsea will try to attack the first place in 2025. It seems that the transfer madness of Chelsea's American owner is gone and the new Chelsea manager Enzo Maresca would become one of the best young football managers in the world.

What is clear is not only about the 130 accusations, but also because Pep Guardiola's strategy has begun to be broken by his opponents, plus Pep always makes Rodrigo the reason why the team performance is unstable while such statements can trigger a sense of insecurity in other players on the field. So Pep Guardiola deserves to be blamed, but the club must also admit the 130 accusations in court.

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Quote from: naira on December 17, 2024, 02:17:34 AM

This weekend will be another problem for Manchester City, they face Aston Villa who in terms of player quality are in their most solid mode. Aston Villa seriousness in the Champions League proves that the match against Manchester City must also be taken seriously. Imao, Pep Guardiola problems are not over after they lost to Manchester United, now they face a challenge that is not easy. Aston Villa is sure to be able to join in the party to give Pep Guardiola a surprise.

What are your predictions for this weekend matches?

In the Premier League, hoping that you will have an easy match is not worth it, this is probably one of the most difficult championships. Yes, the match will be difficult, but Aston Villa is not doing very well either, they themselves have recently gone through a difficult series of unsuccessful matches. And if City lose again, then yes, for them it will be an even greater deterioration in the situation, and Aston Villa with a win will be able to bypass City. I will not make predictions for this match, because I do not know what to expect from City.

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When everyone thought the match would end in a 1-1 draw, Diallo became Man United's hero after successfully changing the score to 1-2 before the match ended. This defeat puts even more pressure on Man City as they have only managed one win in their last 11 matches. Guardiola still hasn't found a solution to the poor results his team has achieved, mistakes continue to occur which make it difficult for them to achieve victory.

Amorim has beaten Man City with two different clubs this season.

I can't remember the time Manchester United won at the Etihad stadium but I know it's been a very long time ago but Ruben Amorim in his first Manchester derby was able to help the Red Devils win against Pep Guardiola's men. What made the win more memorable was the Portuguese manager's decision to leave Marcus Rashford and Alejandro Garnacho out of the match squad even when both wingers were fit and still got an important away win. Ruben Amorim once again have made Manchester United players come to terms with the fact that he can take any decision no matter how hard it looks to be and that I think will make the players work harder than they've ever did since signing for the club

Manchester United won the game against Manchester City without having Rashford in this team and this time Manchester United is even happier without this effective player of the team. Maybe in a normal situation, we were not expecting to see Manchester United win the game against Manchester City and Guardiola was not the coach to lose it easily but they lost it.
Roy Keane, a former player of Manchester United, started talking about this palate, and he suggested that since Amorim didn't use Rashford, maybe it's time for this player to think about leaving the team.

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Quote from: Pandorak on December 17, 2024, 05:01:21 AM

In my opinion, it is clear that the current condition of Machester City which has suffered consecutive defeats, will definitely add to the deep anxiety, Aston Villa is in the best condition at this time compared to Machester City, which is facing some problems, plus defeat after defeat continues to be experienced, Aston Villa is in favorable conditions this time, if they are serious in this match, they have great potential to win the match.

Aston Villa in the match against Manchester City has a big chance of winning depending on how they take advantage of the opportunity to take 3 points from Manchester City. Aston Villa is indeed in good form and the opposing team is not an easy team to beat, Manchester City is in mental trouble again because of consecutive defeats. Aston Villa can take the opportunity in this condition.

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Quote from: naira on December 17, 2024, 02:17:34 AM

This weekend will be another problem for Manchester City, they face Aston Villa who in terms of player quality are in their most solid mode. Aston Villa seriousness in the Champions League proves that the match against Manchester City must also be taken seriously. Imao, Pep Guardiola problems are not over after they lost to Manchester United, now they face a challenge that is not easy. Aston Villa is sure to be able to join in the party to give Pep Guardiola a surprise.

What are your predictions for this weekend matches?

Both teams got bad results in their last match, but if we look in terms of head to head and also the quality of players owned by both teams, of course manchester city tends to be superior compared to aston villa, but with the current condition and performance of manchester city, of course aston is more favoured to win that the match, in addition to playing at home, this season their consistency and performance are much better than manchester city which is slumping, the match will be an arena for the revival of the two teams after their defeat in the last match, but it looks like facing aston villa will be another blow that will further immerse guardiola squad in the English league standings this season.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on December 16, 2024, 01:17:01 PM

Guardiola sometimes says the injury list is one of the reasons why they are struggling. However I also agree that there is something beyond that behind this very poor form. Sad

He celebrated early after getting ahead. Because he knows how bad they have been recently especially defensively. I can't say they are great in the attacking area also of course.

It looks like this is really the season for a different club to lift the PL trophy. I'd like to see Chelsea doing it. Roll Eyes

Injuries? Can you go see the list of available players right now for him? Two players injured and he keeps whining and yapping. I can vividly remember last season with Man United in this position, do you also remember how fans said Man United should get on with it already?

The midfield and wingers has got to be his greatest strength, they're not effectively performing the way they did, two to three seasons back. Chelsea? Watch them against the big sides and you'll see they can't win it. It's okay to hope regardless.

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Quote from: naira on December 17, 2024, 02:17:34 AM

This weekend will be another problem for Manchester City, they face Aston Villa who in terms of player quality are in their most solid mode. Aston Villa seriousness in the Champions League proves that the match against Manchester City must also be taken seriously. Imao, Pep Guardiola problems are not over after they lost to Manchester United, now they face a challenge that is not easy. Aston Villa is sure to be able to join in the party to give Pep Guardiola a surprise.

What are your predictions for this weekend matches?

In my opinion, it is clear that the current condition of Machester City which has suffered consecutive defeats, will definitely add to the deep anxiety, Aston Villa is in the best condition at this time compared to Machester City, which is facing some problems, plus defeat after defeat continues to be experienced, Aston Villa is in favorable conditions this time, if they are serious in this match, they have great potential to win the match.

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