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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on December 19, 2024, 04:12:43 PM

Manchester United had a perfect performance against Manchester City with Guardiola in this team and they won the game with a 2-1 result while in a normal situation were not expecting to see Manchester United can even make problems for Manchester City. But the bad performance in Manchester City made this team lose games against weaker teams. Now that Manchester United has also got improved with Amorim this result for Manchester United was not bad at all and they had a great win.
However, other than this result, they lost their player, Mason Mount, in this match. Mason Mount was an expensive player, and the fans of Manchester United said their team waited 65 million euros.

It's hard to call Manchester United's game against City great, they were losing until the 88th minute, and only thanks to a penalty were they able to equalize, then they were lucky to score another goal at the end of the match. I would say that they were just lucky considering how weak their defense is, they were just lucky that City is in crisis now. Yesterday's match against Tottenham showed how weak their defense is, I admit that something similar should have happened to them in the match with City.

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Quote from: Adiljutt156 on December 19, 2024, 03:43:04 PM

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Quote from: naira on December 17, 2024, 02:17:34 AM

This weekend will be another problem for Manchester City, they face Aston Villa who in terms of player quality are in their most solid mode. Aston Villa seriousness in the Champions League proves that the match against Manchester City must also be taken seriously. Imao, Pep Guardiola problems are not over after they lost to Manchester United, now they face a challenge that is not easy. Aston Villa is sure to be able to join in the party to give Pep Guardiola a surprise.

What are your predictions for this weekend matches?

Hahaha, it's funny how Manchester City is likely going to face another humiliation this coming week end. Everyone knows that Aston Villa is a threat to any team in the English Premier League As long as Emry Can is concerned. Last season it was this same Aston Villa that deprived Arsenal the opportunity to win the league and they won so many top teams. This time around, the aura of Manchester city is reduced. So, any team can get a good result from them.
I have always said that big teams winning is not always as a result if their good playing, but the fear other teams for them. Hence that fear is gone and every team begins to play you like an ordinary team, you could just be lossing. That is the case of Manchester city now.

Yes,you are absolutely right. Any team could win this match because both teams are at same level and we can't say that either Man City will win this match or Aston Villa football team. Both teams are good teams of the tournament because both teams points difference is miner which is only 2 points . Both team played 16 matches and Aston Villa has 25
points on the table and Man City team has 27 points on the table . That team will win which will play well and which will come in the pressure. The team who became successful to exert pressure on opponent team will be winner of that match. Manchester City should try to win this match one sided because they should not take easy in this match.

As per your comments, although these two teams are almost at the same level, Even then there is a difference between the performances of these two teams in this Premier League season. Manchester City are doing slightly better performance than Aston Villa in the Premier League. Aston Villa have not been performing consistently in the Premier League but they have been consistently performing in the Champions League. Manchester City was unexpectedly defeated by Manchester United on December 15. Likewise Aston Villa they were also defeated in their last match. According to statistics if any team is chosen as favorite in this match then I think Manchester City will be ahead.

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Quote from: blue Snow on December 19, 2024, 07:01:04 PM

I'm not sure Haaland will create a score next match because he was disappointed. He felt the pep project had failed and could not determine the winning for Manchester City.

If the motivation is like this, it will certainly have a very bad impact on the team. Haaland should be the spearhead who can determine City victory through the goals he scores while also igniting the passion of other players to improve their quality. I admit, it is very difficult to accept the bad results achieved in the last few matches, but the players and coaches must work together to achieve the best results.

Quote from: blue Snow on December 19, 2024, 07:01:04 PM

He asked to management to transfer him immediately to Barcelona if Manchester City didn't improve the performance.

If the release clause in his contract becomes active, Barcelona will try to sign Haaland next summer. But the problem is they have to find a solution to get him, they also need to find extra money to pay his salary.

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Quote from: skarais on December 19, 2024, 02:35:35 PM

So far, Manchester City's performance has been very disappointing, not only fans, but gamblers have also been affected. Many gamblers lose because of Manchester City's defeat, it is because they truly believe that Manchester City can win the match when they are favorites. So regarding that match, both teams have the chance of winning and personally I tend to choose Manchester City to win.

Why will a gambler see the current state of Manchester city and still bluntly decide to place bets in their favor? I know that some die-hard fans will still be adamant about the current condition of Manchester city and still go ahead to bet them to win in their matches, but i don't think any gambler should still have hope of a miraculous return of Manchester city for now until they have been able to convince us by winning matches consecutively. Let us just accept that it is risky to include Manchester City's games in your bets instead you can just snub their games and bet on other teams and matches if you are a very committed fan of Manchester City then when they get back to form you can now confidently bet on them to win in their matches but for now, everyone just have to stay clear.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 19, 2024, 07:19:29 AM

Arsenal have been dropping down a little these days. I mean they drew with Fulham and Everton consecutively. Especially that one against Everton after all those goal attempts was a huge disappointment. Sad

I believe now it is time to start winning again. They are playing away against Crystal Palace in 2 days. I think this is a really good opportunity to go for.

Crystal Palace are literally one of the worst teams in home games this season. They won only once out of 8 games there. Sometimes they surprise us against top teams in the league though but I don't expect this to be one of those games.

I was also disappointed to see Arsenal draw goalless in the match against Everton even though Arsenal had a fairly large advantage in the match and failed to maintain its consistency, of course he needs a win in the next match he also just beat Crystal Palace in the EFL match so Arsenal should be able to beat Crystal Palace again in the EPL match later, the chance to win is quite large, namely @ 1.62.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on December 19, 2024, 04:12:43 PM

Manchester United had a perfect performance against Manchester City with Guardiola in this team and they won the game with a 2-1 result while in a normal situation were not expecting to see Manchester United can even make problems for Manchester City. But the bad performance in Manchester City made this team lose games against weaker teams. Now that Manchester United has also got improved with Amorim this result for Manchester United was not bad at all and they had a great win.
However, other than this result, they lost their player, Mason Mount, in this match. Mason Mount was an expensive player, and the fans of Manchester United said their team waited 65 million euros.

Whole time whilst reading, I was thinking if I had comprehension issues or could it be the way the above post was written? Dis you not see that Manchester United manger did not use his side which played against Manchester City? They're also not so focused on Cup competitions like this, they want to win the Premier League competition. As much as Amorim's style of play is been integrated, the performance of the squad will improve. I can't wait to see Utd winning the league.

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Quote from: blue Snow on December 19, 2024, 07:01:04 PM

I'm not sure Haaland will create a score next match because he was disappointed. He felt the pep project had failed and could not determine the winning for Manchester City. He asked to management to transfer him immediately to Barcelona if Manchester City didn't improve the performance. These is crucial things that will face the clubs because several players are already uncomfortable with continuous loss. Several players think the club must make major changes to solve this problem. the match against Aston Villa will determine Pep future and some main player to leave or still stay in Manchester City.

The Norway international have braced himself with remarkable goal tally, this player have been significantly hitting the major routes with Pep Guardiola at Manchester City. But following the previous developments, there have been heavy speculation of rumors of Haaland pushing for an exits from Etihad stadium, the probability of this rumors coming to past are slim because Haaland have more way to go in Manchester City. He'd the top goal scorer for the club and he's lucky enough to have been the main target for the attacking force. Erling Haaland have to be patient because the downtime hits the major club that have been consistently doing well for years. Manchester City is vulnerable and defeats flows in back to back.

Manchester City next game is Aston Villa, what are your drawing expectations? Manchester City have to prove to their supporters that they're gamed. The question pops up again, how can a competitive team like the Citizens suddenly have a turnover when it comes declined performance? They're not in good shape, conceded more goals and obviously out of the English Premier League title race. This is happening and there's nothing Pep Guardiola can do? All hope is not lost because Pep Guardiola have a way of turning things around.

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Quote from: ginsan on December 19, 2024, 04:51:50 PM

Haaland is expected to bring change by scoring goals and bringing victory to City. They have to play more carefully to turn their path towards victory. Guardiola's job lately has certainly been very tough because Manchester City has not performed well in the Champions League or the Premier League so he has to think of a way to bring his team back to 3 points.

I'm not sure Haaland will create a score next match because he was disappointed. He felt the pep project had failed and could not determine the winning for Manchester City. He asked to management to transfer him immediately to Barcelona if Manchester City didn't improve the performance. These is crucial things that will face the clubs because several players are already uncomfortable with continuous loss. Several players think the club must make major changes to solve this problem. the match against Aston Villa will determine Pep future and some main player to leave or still stay in Manchester City.

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Saturday 21 December
Aston Villa 13:30 Manchester City
Ipswich 16:00 Newcastle
West Ham 16:00 Brighton
Brentford 16:00 Nottingham Forest
Crystal Palace 18:30 Arsenal

Sunday 22 December
Manchester United 15:00 Bournemouth
Leicester 15:00 Wolverhampton
Fulham 15:00 Southampton
Everton 15:00 Chelsea
Tottenham 17:30 Liverpool

Source: https://www.goal.com/en/premier-league/fixtures-results/2kwbbcootiqqgmrzs6o5inle5

Last call for Manchester City, 3 points here or it will be over, maybe for Guardiola too.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on December 19, 2024, 05:41:32 PM

Arsenal's tendency to drop points against weak teams is becoming a concern. And if they don't address this issue urgently they risk dropping more points including their next premier league fixture against crystal palace. To remain competitive in the title race Arsenal must treat every game with the same level of importance regardless of the opponent.

Yeah, they clearly are not doing as good as they did in the last season, and it doesn't look like they will be taking advantage of Man City's dip in performance and elevate themselves to the role of the top contender.
They had some really good games this season, but, looking at statistics from all the league games played this season, their win rate is only 50% and the average points per game is 1.875. The same stats for the last season were: win rate of 74% and points per game of 2.34, so pretty notable difference.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on December 19, 2024, 05:41:32 PM

Quote from: Velvet78 on December 19, 2024, 07:19:29 AM

Arsenal have been dropping down a little these days. I mean they drew with Fulham and Everton consecutively. Especially that one against Everton after all those goal attempts was a huge disappointment. Sad

I believe now it is time to start winning again. They are playing away against Crystal Palace in 2 days. I think this is a really good opportunity to go for.

Crystal Palace are literally one of the worst teams in home games this season. They won only once out of 8 games there. Sometimes they surprise us against top teams in the league though but I don't expect this to be one of those games.

I didn't watch Arsenal's draw with Fulham so I can't say much about it but Arsenal's game against Everton in my opinion was a game Arsenal could've easily taken all three if they had converted their chances but surprisingly, they failed to. Considering Arsenal's performances this season, I don't think they have all it takes to win the league title this season again after dropping points last weekend.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 19, 2024, 07:19:29 AM

Arsenal have been dropping down a little these days. I mean they drew with Fulham and Everton consecutively. Especially that one against Everton after all those goal attempts was a huge disappointment. Sad

I believe now it is time to start winning again. They are playing away against Crystal Palace in 2 days. I think this is a really good opportunity to go for.

Crystal Palace are literally one of the worst teams in home games this season. They won only once out of 8 games there. Sometimes they surprise us against top teams in the league though but I don't expect this to be one of those games.

Arsenal's tendency to drop points against weak teams is becoming a concern. And if they don't address this issue urgently they risk dropping more points including their next premier league fixture against crystal palace. To remain competitive in the title race Arsenal must treat every game with the same level of importance regardless of the opponent.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on December 19, 2024, 04:28:22 PM

Looking at the problems City is facing, it is not really about the fact that they are dealing with injuries or anything like that, but it's more about loss of confidence. They do not think that they can win anymore, and they do not even feel like they could win anymore so they play like some team that will always lose, like they are some relegation zone team.

Eventually one day, they will get a win, a win so spectacular that they will have their confidence back, and for a few games at least, and if they win those too, then it would be momentum back and feel like everything is back to normal. Could the start of that would be this game? I am not sure, Villa is a great team but they are never good against big teams, so this could be it, or it could be some other game.

Manchester City is in a slump, all the strategies implemented by Pep have not been able to bring change to the matches they have played. Of course, losing confidence makes them fail in several matches which makes their position in the standings even worse. Tomorrow's match will certainly be quite tough because Aston Villa is also a strong team and they have learned how to beat Manchester City.

Haaland is expected to bring change by scoring goals and bringing victory to City. They have to play more carefully to turn their path towards victory. Guardiola's job lately has certainly been very tough because Manchester City has not performed well in the Champions League or the Premier League so he has to think of a way to bring his team back to 3 points.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on December 19, 2024, 04:12:43 PM

Manchester United had a perfect performance against Manchester City with Guardiola in this team and they won the game with a 2-1 result while in a normal situation were not expecting to see Manchester United can even make problems for Manchester City. But the bad performance in Manchester City made this team lose games against weaker teams. Now that Manchester United has also got improved with Amorim this result for Manchester United was not bad at all and they had a great win.

Despite the victory against Manchester City at the moment, Manchester United is still in the development stage for me because they just won again after they had to lose 2 matches against Arsenal and Nottingham Forrest so for now they still cannot be said to be good but still in the process of improving performance.

But even so this victory against Manchester City will be memorable and increase their fighting spirit in the continued matches in the EPL later because after all for now even though they are in pain but still Manchester City is a symbol of the EPL and defeating them will provide a strong boost to the improvement of spirit for Manchester United.

Speaking of Manchester United who are in development is actually seen again in today's match where even though they won last week in the end this is also not a fitting answer to say they are better because in fact they still cannot be consistent with the final results. Currently they are behind Tottenham even though there is hope with 2 goals back but they still cannot be happy with this 3-2 result.

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Looking at the problems City is facing, it is not really about the fact that they are dealing with injuries or anything like that, but it's more about loss of confidence. They do not think that they can win anymore, and they do not even feel like they could win anymore so they play like some team that will always lose, like they are some relegation zone team.

Eventually one day, they will get a win, a win so spectacular that they will have their confidence back, and for a few games at least, and if they win those too, then it would be momentum back and feel like everything is back to normal. Could the start of that would be this game? I am not sure, Villa is a great team but they are never good against big teams, so this could be it, or it could be some other game.

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Quote from: Adiljutt156 on December 17, 2024, 06:52:40 PM

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Manchester United were the underdogs going into this game but that's the most shocking thing about their win tonight but that they left it late before completing their comeback. After the 80th minute, I had already concluded that Ruben Amorim was going to suffer yet another defeat in the English Premier League but little did I know that the Manchester United players will still energetic enough to complete a comeback. Kudos to whole Manchester United squad for such an incredible performance

Both teams gave hundred percent in this match and we saw very incredible performance by these two teams. Etihad Stadium was lucky stadium for Manchester United football team. Both team are looking in good form because they tried to win this match. The shots of both teams were equal from which 3 shots were on target of both teams. The possession percentage of Manchester City was more in percentage because it's possession percentage was 52 percent and possession percentage of Manchester United was 48 percent in this match. The passes stats was also very good because Manchester United passes were 468 and Manchester City passes were 498 . Man United fouls were more in number and these were 14 but that team became successful to win this match.

Manchester United had a perfect performance against Manchester City with Guardiola in this team and they won the game with a 2-1 result while in a normal situation were not expecting to see Manchester United can even make problems for Manchester City. But the bad performance in Manchester City made this team lose games against weaker teams. Now that Manchester United has also got improved with Amorim this result for Manchester United was not bad at all and they had a great win.
However, other than this result, they lost their player, Mason Mount, in this match. Mason Mount was an expensive player, and the fans of Manchester United said their team waited 65 million euros.

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While I understand that Villa may look like the weaker team, do you really trust City enough to bet on them? I personally wouldn't and I would guess that it would be a different situation and things would look different without a doubt. I believe the best way to move forward would be just making sure that we deal with something totally different and that would be a lot better without a doubt.

I think not betting on this game is the way to go and that should be the best method, we should avoid things like that and could make it work like it's a game that doesn't exist, in fact all of City's games look like that could be the case and we could just avoid doing anything about it, that doesn't really make sense to keep that up.

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Quote from: Josefjix on December 19, 2024, 08:45:38 AM

Aston Villa hasn't won against a top 6 side this season, their only point was against shitty United team under Erik, I doubt City would drop any further point for two consecutive weeks although I won't be placing on money line I would likely go with BTTS and O2.5 goals to be on the safer side as both teams are likely going to score.

The match is just going to be difficult to predict. Manchester City's performance has dropped, and I'm sure the time will come when they will bounce back, but we don’t just know when it’s going to be, but with Manchester City's current poor performance, it’s just going to be difficult for them to win against Aston Villa in their next match. Manchester City played against some weak teams, and they couldn’t win them, and Aston Villa's performance is not that poor this season, so I don’t think the match will be easy for Manchester City.

Let’s just see how the match goes, but I won’t be surprised if the match ends as a draw, everyone knows that Manchester City’s performance is kind of poor currently, so any team they are playing against will want to take advantage of that, so Aston Villa will also want to get a win in the match, and Manchester City will do everything possible also to win the match.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on December 17, 2024, 02:58:35 PM

Quote from: naira on December 17, 2024, 02:17:34 AM

This weekend will be another problem for Manchester City, they face Aston Villa who in terms of player quality are in their most solid mode. Aston Villa seriousness in the Champions League proves that the match against Manchester City must also be taken seriously. Imao, Pep Guardiola problems are not over after they lost to Manchester United, now they face a challenge that is not easy. Aston Villa is sure to be able to join in the party to give Pep Guardiola a surprise.

What are your predictions for this weekend matches?

Hahaha, it's funny how Manchester City is likely going to face another humiliation this coming week end. Everyone knows that Aston Villa is a threat to any team in the English Premier League As long as Emry Can is concerned. Last season it was this same Aston Villa that deprived Arsenal the opportunity to win the league and they won so many top teams. This time around, the aura of Manchester city is reduced. So, any team can get a good result from them.
I have always said that big teams winning is not always as a result if their good playing, but the fear other teams for them. Hence that fear is gone and every team begins to play you like an ordinary team, you could just be lossing. That is the case of Manchester city now.

Yes,you are absolutely right. Any team could win this match because both teams are at same level and we can't say that either Man City will win this match or Aston Villa football team. Both teams are good teams of the tournament because both teams points difference is miner which is only 2 points . Both team played 16 matches and Aston Villa has 25
points on the table and Man City team has 27 points on the table . That team will win which will play well and which will come in the pressure. The team who became successful to exert pressure on opponent team will be winner of that match. Manchester City should try to win this match one sided because they should not take easy in this match.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 19, 2024, 07:19:29 AM

Arsenal have been dropping down a little these days. I mean they drew with Fulham and Everton consecutively. Especially that one against Everton after all those goal attempts was a huge disappointment. Sad

I believe now it is time to start winning again. They are playing away against Crystal Palace in 2 days. I think this is a really good opportunity to go for.

Crystal Palace are literally one of the worst teams in home games this season. They won only once out of 8 games there. Sometimes they surprise us against top teams in the league though but I don't expect this to be one of those games.

I thought I was the one that noticed this recently; Arsenal's performance has been dropping lately, and it makes many people feel doubt about their performance. They are not seriously doing as they started the season; their result against Everton and Fulham was a surprise to me, and I didn’t expect that. They are top 3 in the Premier League standings. I think they should work on themselves to avoid losing more points, and they should win more matches to go higher but not drop more points anymore.

Quote from: Egii Nna on December 19, 2024, 02:20:39 PM

I was also thinking on that because it will be a very good opportunity for Arsenal to get more 3 points for them to step up a bit again because Nottingham Forest is also playing good because they are only 2 points below Arsenal. Although no one expected that they would have a draw against Fulham and Everton, but that is football; it can easily change to what we didn’t expect.

Moreover, talking about Crystal Palace. Arsenal won the game they played yesterday; the game ended at 3-2. Which end is a knockout for Crystal Palace in the EFL Cup, so that means Arsenal will have the highest chance of winning unless the table turns for them.

Arsenal may have tried their best to win the match so they can secure their position more and get more points ahead of Nottingham Forest, although their performance is going well, and they can’t be underestimated. Arsenal won their last match against Crystal Palace, but that doesn’t mean we should expect the same thing in this match, but let’s see how it goes.

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