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Quote from: Fiatless on January 15, 2025, 03:41:30 PM

Arsenal is losing at home. Son gave Tottenham Huspurs the lead and the Gunners are seeking ways to get an equalizer. It seems the absence of Bukayo Saka had affected Arsenal and they now struggle to win games. There is still more time to play and I hope Mikel Arteta will be able to win this game to enable them to take advantage of the point drop by Liverpool and Nottingham Forest.

Edit: The game is now I-1 after Arsenal got a goal through an own goal by Solanke in the 40th minute. The game is now open for both teams to clinch the three points.

It is unfortunate that Tottenham Hotspur players began to lose their consistency when the first half was almost over, where Arsenal was able to score two goals in the 40th minute through an own goal from one of Spurs players and right in the 44th minute Arsenal through a goal scored by Trossard turned things around, where Arsenal was able to lead by one goal over Spurs.

However, even so, the match is still ongoing and has now entered the 69th minute, so anything can still happen. With Arsenal's dominance of the game and attacks, if they are able to maintain this until the end of the match, it is very likely that Arsenal will not only be able to maintain their lead, but Arsenal can also increase their lead.

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Quote from: hyudien on January 15, 2025, 09:28:12 AM

Week 21 is an important week for Arsenal to shift Nottingham Forest in 2nd position who were held to a draw by Liverpool yesterday. Unfortunately, the 3 points are not easy to win from Tottenham, because every time they meet, not many goals are scored. Based on the chances, the home team seems to be favored with 1.36x, the temptation comes from Tottenham with 7.80 so do you dare to drop it to the away team?

Arsenal are the king of north London. No matter how weak Arsenal might seems to be right now, I can still beat my chest to confirm that Arsenal are going to beat Tottenham Hotspur comfortable tonight. Tottenham are only noise makers thinking that they are rivals to Arsenal in North London, whereas Arsenal don't even see them as a threat. Even if Arsenal succeeds in shifting Nottingham forest from the second position tonight, Nottingham forest will still rise back to the second position. It will only take the next few games ahead to achieve that. I believe that Arsenal will lose more points in the coming weeks more than Nottingham forest will ever do. Don't even be tempted with Tottenham 7.80 odds. That odd won't play. Tottenham Hotspur are not in better form than Arsenal, so I don't even see them having any chance of winning.

Are you an Arsenal fan? but if i were you i wouldn't swear on any team currently up there, Arsenal has never been successive with their wins and even with the low odds behind Tottenham they still can end up losing or sharing points, it is not about being being big in London, the result of each games are drawn at the end of the game and how much input created by players directly on the pitch determines the outcome.

Don't get your hopes up, Tottenham are also no small team when it comes to games like this, despite the risk of claiming Arsenal or Tottenham for direct win, literally a Draw or GG can play well.

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Quote from: JiiBs on January 15, 2025, 02:10:09 PM

Quote from: hyudien on January 15, 2025, 09:28:12 AM

Week 21 is an important week for Arsenal to shift Nottingham Forest in 2nd position who were held to a draw by Liverpool yesterday. Unfortunately, the 3 points are not easy to win from Tottenham, because every time they meet, not many goals are scored. Based on the chances, the home team seems to be favored with 1.36x, the temptation comes from Tottenham with 7.80 so do you dare to drop it to the away team?

I just checked on my signature Rollbit to confirm the same odds at 7.80 for Spurs and I think the bookies are really being generous with that odd. Arsenal are not as good as they’ve used to be, Saka is out except we are expecting him back with some surprises, G. Jesus is out injured as well and Havertz isn’t any reliable to get many balls on target. Spurs on the other hand, they’ve got a good force in Solanke, Son and Maddison. They look more than capable to get something out of this fixture for such an odd.

It is already end of the first half an Arsenal is leading with 2-1 from behind, honestly the both teams are struggling with injuries crisis but however Arsenal still stand to be the favorite team to win perhaps it is our home ground, and will not allow such honor be taken by Tottenham, when i saw the odds my conclusion was both teams to score and over 2.5 goals which has already been achieved in the first half of the game, surely is an expected hot match for both teams, it is competitive and may likely end in a draw game full time, I really miss the present of Saka in the Arsenal sguard.

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Quote from: Fiatless on January 15, 2025, 03:41:30 PM

Arsenal is losing at home. Son gave Tottenham Huspurs the lead and the Gunners are seeking ways to get an equalizer. It seems the absence of Bukayo Saka had affected Arsenal and they now struggle to win games. There is still more time to play and I hope Mikel Arteta will be able to win this game to enable them to take advantage of the point drop by Liverpool and Nottingham Forest.

Edit: The game is now I-1 after Arsenal got a goal through an own goal by Solanke in the 40th minute. The game is now open for both teams to clinch the three points.

Currently, it is half-time, and Arsenal have added another goal to make it 2-1. The goal was scored by Trossard. At the moment, I can't predict what will happen at the end of the match. Despite Arsenal leading by one goal and maintaining control of ball possession, the truth is that both teams are putting in significant effort. It seems that Tottenham are trying to play Arsenal with counterattack.

But Still, I have confidence that Tottenham will not beat Arsenal at the Emirates Stadium. However, they might be lucky to draw with Arsenal if they put in more effort. Currently, Arsenal are not applying much pressure, but maybe in the second half, they will step up their game, add another goal, or defend their lead. Let’s just see what will happen in the second half.

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Quote from: Fiatless on January 15, 2025, 03:41:30 PM

Arsenal is losing at home. Son gave Tottenham Huspurs the lead and the Gunners are seeking ways to get an equalizer. It seems the absence of Bukayo Saka had affected Arsenal and they now struggle to win games. There is still more time to play and I hope Mikel Arteta will be able to win this game to enable them to take advantage of the point drop by Liverpool and Nottingham Forest.

What a London derby, two goals in 4mins, Arsenal just went from 0-1 down to 2-1 currently, i like that they didn't back down after conceding they fought as a team and have scored 2 goals in a short interval, that's the team spirit my club Chelsea needs, after conceding the first goal they didn't really show any ággresion towards a goal and it cause us another goal from Bournemouth, well i know what our problem is, we're lacking a good finisher and i wonder why Todd is not working hard enough to get one currently.

Anyways I'm really enjoying the derby match between Arsenal and Tottenham it's quite an interesting 1st half and Arsenal are leading currently due to the goals from Gabriel and Trossard, from the look of thing it seems Arsenal are going to win this match, i don't know if Tottenham has a big surprise in the 2nd half but I'll just relax and wait for it to kick start.

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Quote from: AprilioMP on January 15, 2025, 09:18:41 AM

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Manchester City balanced. Chelsea draw. Liverpool draw. Incredible Premier League. Surely many have lost money. LOL

Now we review. Manchester City has 70% win because the score is 0-2. In fact Brentford equated a score of two goals in 10 minutes.
Chelsea won but Bournemouth was able to turn things around to 1-2. Finally the final minute drama made a draw.
How about Liverpool? Describe yourself. Crazy.

It was actually a coincidence yesterday seeing the big teams played draw. Chelsea amongst others played the most dissatisfying game and were very lucky get away with a point. As for Liverpool, they obviously can't win all the games. Nothingham Forest is a very good team and probably the most informed team in the league right now.

If it was a coincidence, it could be assumed that it was planned before the game was played. Is that possible?
If Chelsea drew thanks to James' goal in the 90+5 minute even though they were ahead before Bournemouth turned the score around, I don't see that as something planned because Chelsea have been playing well this season. Unlike Manchester City who have experienced a decline in performance which has made social media homepages busy talking about them and Pep Guardiola.

I salute Nottingham Forest because they were able to surprise Liverpool in the 8th minute. The target of playing in the champions league next season can be maintained.

Definitely a week many people lost money, and yeah I do not think that it was planned type of thing. Plus, remember that people have right to bet on draws as well, so imagine someone betting on all these three games to end in a draw, that would be a huge amount of money paid by bookies as well, and they wouldn't want that.

There is something wrong going on with Liverpool lately, while I agree they have been great all season long, they had a tie against United which nobody expected, then a loss to Spurs, and now a tie against Nottingham Forrest as well, in the middle there was just one game where Liverpool easily defeated Accrington but that was just expected and not really that difficult.

I hope that Liverpool could recover and start winning games, because right now they are looking like they are going to lose some more points and lose the leadership. They had a chance to have such a big deal, and yet they ended up giving that gap chance away thanks to these games. The only benefit Liverpool has right now is that, their opponents got ties as well, so not like it looks bad for them.

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Quote from: KingsDen on January 15, 2025, 03:33:13 PM

The bookmakers have their algorithm to decide the odds and with the statistics so far, you will justify the odds they set. But on the other hand, Tottenham is not as weak as they depicted. Solanke has been on a great form and with Son also in the front will give a great balance compared to Sterling, Harverts and Trossard combination. I don't know why Arteta decided to play Trossard ahead of Martinelli which I know Martinelli gives more pressure than Trossard.

Now that Tottenham is leading by a goal, Arsenal need to work their ass out this time around to equalize and possibly make a win.

The bookies use the results of several matches as a reference for their accurate form in determining the odds. But it's good enough that it will benefit many parties to bet on tottenham victory. Also, Arsenal is playing at home so the bookies are more supportive of Arsenal in this match, But with Tottenham good performance, of course it was a surprise because tottenham still managed to maintain their advantage.

Now if you look at this match, of course if Arsenal loses then they seem to give up on competing closely with Liverpool at the top of the standings. Even though this match is so important for Arsenal and I hope they can improve their style of play and find a gap to score an equalizer. The match has entered the 40th minute, of course there is still time in the first half for arsenal to be able to find opportunities and score goals.
edit / score becomes 2-1. oh my Shocked

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on January 15, 2025, 02:03:23 PM

Yes Liverpool are the strongest and the best team in the EPL right now. Having difficulties at winning against a team like Nottingham Forest shows that how unpredictable and competitive the Premier League is.

Nottingham Forest's performance has been so good this season, they are currently in 2rd position. I expected the match to be difficult for Liverpool because we saw how Nottingham Forest has been playing and how they played against Liverpool in the first leg. They are the only club that has been able to get a win against Liverpool: Nottingham Forest, so I expected yesterday’s match to be so difficult for Liverpool, and Liverpool couldn’t get a win in the match, they could only get a draw.

I agree that Liverpool is still the best club in the Premier League, but I am still expecting some matches to be difficult for Liverpool. We don’t expect Liverpool to win all their matches, even as they have the best performance currently.

Quote from: Pokapoka124 on January 15, 2025, 02:03:23 PM

Nottingham Forest have been on fire this season in the EPL and I wish they can maintain this performance through out and also secure a spot that will make them play Champions League football next season.

Let’s hope they will be able to maintain their good performance. I never expected their performance to be so good, I have been expecting their performance to drop, but as we can see, Nottingham Forest is doing everything possible to maintain their good performance. Let’s just hope their performance doesn’t drop.

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Arsenal is losing at home. Son gave Tottenham Huspurs the lead and the Gunners are seeking ways to get an equalizer. It seems the absence of Bukayo Saka had affected Arsenal and they now struggle to win games. There is still more time to play and I hope Mikel Arteta will be able to win this game to enable them to take advantage of the point drop by Liverpool and Nottingham Forest.

Edit: The game is now I-1 after Arsenal got a goal through an own goal by Solanke in the 40th minute. The game is now open for both teams to clinch the three points.

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Quote from: JiiBs on January 15, 2025, 02:10:09 PM

Quote from: hyudien on January 15, 2025, 09:28:12 AM

Week 21 is an important week for Arsenal to shift Nottingham Forest in 2nd position who were held to a draw by Liverpool yesterday. Unfortunately, the 3 points are not easy to win from Tottenham, because every time they meet, not many goals are scored. Based on the chances, the home team seems to be favored with 1.36x, the temptation comes from Tottenham with 7.80 so do you dare to drop it to the away team?

I just checked on my signature Rollbit to confirm the same odds at 7.80 for Spurs and I think the bookies are really being generous with that odd. Arsenal are not as good as they’ve used to be, Saka is out except we are expecting him back with some surprises, G. Jesus is out injured as well and Havertz isn’t any reliable to get many balls on target. Spurs on the other hand, they’ve got a good force in Solanke, Son and Maddison. They look more than capable to get something out of this fixture for such an odd.

The bookmakers have their algorithm to decide the odds and with the statistics so far, you will justify the odds they set. But on the other hand, Tottenham is not as weak as they depicted. Solanke has been on a great form and with Son also in the front will give a great balance compared to Sterling, Harverts and Trossard combination. I don't know why Arteta decided to play Trossard ahead of Martinelli which I know Martinelli gives more pressure than Trossard.

Now that Tottenham is leading by a goal, Arsenal need to work their ass out this time around to equalize and possibly make a win.

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Quote from: Felicity_Tide on January 15, 2025, 01:57:08 PM

Quote from: hyudien on January 15, 2025, 09:28:12 AM

Week 21 is an important week for Arsenal to shift Nottingham Forest in 2nd position who were held to a draw by Liverpool yesterday. Unfortunately, the 3 points are not easy to win from Tottenham, because every time they meet, not many goals are scored. Based on the chances, the home team seems to be favored with 1.36x, the temptation comes from Tottenham with 7.80 so do you dare to drop it to the away team?

Why is Arsenal's odd so high considering the fact things hasn't been too good in their last few games. Too many problems for them at the moment, so I can't make predictions for the game. I'm not even sure if Arsenal can score a goal in this game because they've always struggled to score open play goals. Still don't know why the management is not interested in strengthening the attack, even though they've been able to do that in the defensive backline over the years.

It's a North London derby, and arsenal fans won't take any excuse. All 3 points will do them more good in moving further on the table. A draw or loss reduces their chance further in the title race. Good luck to both sides.

This is the kind of bets some of my friends like, big odd with high probability. I will not even be surprised if Tottenham disgrace Arsenal tonight because Arsenal have not been doing too exceptional lately. With this big odd, one can even play Tottenham to win either half which will still give around 3 odds. Although, it is risky to think that Tottenham will win because Arsenal are the teams with the advantage in this match in terms of their players and their performance of late. Therefore, Arsenal will likely win the match but it can be a narrow win because Tottenham will try to score as many goals as they can.

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Quote from: hyudien on January 15, 2025, 09:28:12 AM

Week 21 is an important week for Arsenal to shift Nottingham Forest in 2nd position who were held to a draw by Liverpool yesterday. Unfortunately, the 3 points are not easy to win from Tottenham, because every time they meet, not many goals are scored. Based on the chances, the home team seems to be favored with 1.36x, the temptation comes from Tottenham with 7.80 so do you dare to drop it to the away team?

I just checked on my signature Rollbit to confirm the same odds at 7.80 for Spurs and I think the bookies are really being generous with that odd. Arsenal are not as good as they’ve used to be, Saka is out except we are expecting him back with some surprises, G. Jesus is out injured as well and Havertz isn’t any reliable to get many balls on target. Spurs on the other hand, they’ve got a good force in Solanke, Son and Maddison. They look more than capable to get something out of this fixture for such an odd.

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Quote from: davis196 on January 15, 2025, 02:47:39 AM

I think that, right now, Liverpool is the strongest team in England and yet they still have difficulties at winning against a team like Nottingham Forest. Liverpool had 70% ball possession and lots of missed goal opportunities, while Nottingham had a great goalkeeper.
Nottingham Forest is the big surprise of the Premier League and I really want them to finish at Top 3, but it would really difficult for them to compete against Arsenal and Chelsea. Manchester City failed to keep two goals in advance against Brentford. Maybe Guardiola's divorce is one of the reason why Manchester City is so inconsistent and weal. There's no doubt that Liverpool will become champions.

Yes Liverpool are the strongest and the best team in the EPL right now. Having difficulties at winning against a team like Nottingham Forest shows that how unpredictable and competitive the Premier League is. Nottingham Forest have been on fire this season in the EPL and I wish they can maintain this performance through out and also secure a spot that will make them play Champions League football next season.

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Quote from: hyudien on January 15, 2025, 09:28:12 AM

Week 21 is an important week for Arsenal to shift Nottingham Forest in 2nd position who were held to a draw by Liverpool yesterday. Unfortunately, the 3 points are not easy to win from Tottenham, because every time they meet, not many goals are scored. Based on the chances, the home team seems to be favored with 1.36x, the temptation comes from Tottenham with 7.80 so do you dare to drop it to the away team?

Why is Arsenal's odd so high considering the fact things hasn't been too good in their last few games. Too many problems for them at the moment, so I can't make predictions for the game. I'm not even sure if Arsenal can score a goal in this game because they've always struggled to score open play goals. Still don't know why the management is not interested in strengthening the attack, even though they've been able to do that in the defensive backline over the years.

It's a North London derby, and arsenal fans won't take any excuse. All 3 points will do them more good in moving further on the table. A draw or loss reduces their chance further in the title race. Good luck to both sides.

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Quote from: AprilioMP on January 15, 2025, 09:18:41 AM

I salute Nottingham Forest because they were able to surprise Liverpool in the 8th minute. The target of playing in the champions league next season can be maintained.

Nottingham Forest is good and we also feel our struggle will not be as easy as we predict at the beginning.
We are waiting for the results of Arsenal. If Arsenal wins, then we will get closer to Arsenal. This means that Liverpool have warned these two teams to target the 20th trophy.

If Nottingham Forest was successful this season as you said, I would pat them to them for the success they had been waiting for.

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Quote from: AprilioMP on January 15, 2025, 02:47:34 AM

Manchester City balanced. Chelsea draw. Liverpool draw. Incredible Premier League. Surely many have lost money. LOL

Now we review. Manchester City has 70% win because the score is 0-2. In fact Brentford equated a score of two goals in 10 minutes.
Chelsea won but Bournemouth was able to turn things around to 1-2. Finally the final minute drama made a draw.
How about Liverpool? Describe yourself. Crazy.

Manchester City had the chance to win Brentford in their meeting in the Premier League yesterday but still they drew the match as they surrender a two goals advantage in the 82nd min and drew the game. I am not surprised that Manchester City drew the game infact form the start i always knew it will end in a draw given to their recent dip in form in the league. While Chelsea I was even expecting a draw in the match, while Liverpool match was the one that made him lose my bet, I played over 2.5 goals and Liverpool failed to score up to three goals.

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Quote from: hyudien on January 15, 2025, 09:28:12 AM

Week 21 is an important week for Arsenal to shift Nottingham Forest in 2nd position who were held to a draw by Liverpool yesterday. Unfortunately, the 3 points are not easy to win from Tottenham, because every time they meet, not many goals are scored. Based on the chances, the home team seems to be favored with 1.36x, the temptation comes from Tottenham with 7.80 so do you dare to drop it to the away team?

It is a crucial game for Arsenal to shift Nottingham Forest . If they fail to gap Nottingham with three points as they host Tottenham tonight it might become difficult for the rest of the season to replace them so this match been the week 21 is very crucial and a must win.

Arsenal has a better stat than Tottenham so they should be the favorite. Imagine the odd for Tottenham which makes it obvious how much confidence the house has on Arsenal getting all three points in to tonight's clash. But should it turn out to be a draw then Arsenal will be standing on the second position with just GD.

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Quote from: CLS63 on January 15, 2025, 11:54:33 AM

Liverpool got very near winning this match despite being really bad in the first half. But Nottingham showed a really serious level of resistance. The goalkeeper really played his life game. I'm not surprised to see Liverpool losing points in this match. Because they played against a good team and you would remember that they lost to Nottingham at Anfield as well. Sad

It is a good chance for Arsenal to get closer to Liverpool in points. To be honest I don't think Arsenal will have a big difficulty in defeating Tottenham tonight. Tottenham are having big issues because of their missing players.

Very tough game between the pair, the game was so intense and competitive. Nottingham Forest came close to inflicting a home and away defeat record to Liverpool last night after Nottingham Forest took the lead in the early minutes of the game and were solid defensively until sixty minutes when Liverpool got a breakthrough from a set piece to equalize hence both sides were unable to find the net again until full time. Not a bad result in my opinion because it gives Arsenal opportunity to close the gap today when they face Tottenham. Hopefully they can get a win today.

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Quote from: hyudien on January 15, 2025, 09:28:12 AM

Week 21 is an important week for Arsenal to shift Nottingham Forest in 2nd position who were held to a draw by Liverpool yesterday. Unfortunately, the 3 points are not easy to win from Tottenham, because every time they meet, not many goals are scored. Based on the chances, the home team seems to be favored with 1.36x, the temptation comes from Tottenham with 7.80 so do you dare to drop it to the away team?

It could be a good momentum for Arsenal but it's also not an easy match in the end because after all it's a match full of prestige and full of tension in north london.

The long-standing rivalry between these two clubs makes the situation unpredictable where even unpredictable results can happen in this match. The momentum now is still owned by Arsenal especially since they will play home in this sensitive match, but Tottenham also certainly cannot be underestimated for now even though their performance is not better than Arsenal.

I actually want to be on Arsenal's side for this match but because this is a derby as well as seeing some big club matches yesterday (although this should not be used as a benchmark) but in the end of course there is a trust issue for me for now so I will only watch this match without any partiality to one of these clubs.

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Quote from: ajanwalker on January 15, 2025, 05:23:19 AM

If Arsenal wins the London derby tonight, they will be the team that will close the week with the most profit.

Yesterday, Liverpool narrowly escaped a draw and earned 1 point in a difficult away match against Nottingham.
Chelsea saved a draw at the last minute on their home field but lost 2 points because they were at home.
City won 1 point in a match they had been leading for a long time.
All eyes are on Arsenal in the match to be played tonight. If Arsenal defeats in-form Tottenham, they will have closed the week with a lot of profit and will move into second place.

It's true, but the question is that will they win? Arsenal recent performances have been indeed inconsistent particularly since Bukayo Saka injury. His absence have significantly affected their attacking capabilities as they've struggled to convert chances and this has left them vulnerable in matches where clinical finishing is crucial.
Facing Tottenham especially in a London derby will surely be a tough test. Spurs have a solid attacking unit and a manager who has instilled a more organized and dynamic playing style. With Son Heung Min and James Madison contributing effectively to their offensive creativity and goal scoring too, Spurs have a equal chance of winning the match.

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