The problem faced by Manchester City this season is not just injuries to several key players, Liverpool increasing performance is also a factor that Manchester City is starting to have difficulty dominating the standings. If Liverpool had not performed as well as they have this season, Manchester City might still be at the top of the standings. Now Arne Slot is a big threat to Guardiola in dominating the EPL, Liverpool is still consistently maintaining its best performance and this is clearly not good news for Manchester City.
I agree that Man City is not really regressing, it's just that with Liverpool back on track and in their most consistent form, so Man City existence looks like it is regressing, when in fact it is not too significant. Regardless I'm quite happy with Liverpool's comeback as a reminder to Man City that they can't hold onto the Premier League forever. 
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The problem faced by Manchester City this season is not just injuries to several key players, Liverpool increasing performance is also a factor that Manchester City is starting to have difficulty dominating the standings. If Liverpool had not performed as well as they have this season, Manchester City might still be at the top of the standings. Now Arne Slot is a big threat to Guardiola in dominating the EPL, Liverpool is still consistently maintaining its best performance and this is clearly not good news for Manchester City.
I agree that Man City is not really regressing, it's just that with Liverpool back on track and in their most consistent form, so Man City existence looks like it is regressing, when in fact it is not too significant. Regardless I'm quite happy with Liverpool's comeback as a reminder to Man City that they can't hold onto the Premier League forever. 
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Actually, playing 11 matches is not enough to say that Man City cannot perform like last season because Man City's important players were injured at the beginning of this season which caused their performance to decline, on the other hand, Liverpool players are fit and important players have contributed since the beginning of the season, that's what makes Liverpool's performance impressive, just wait when Man City players have recovered and returned to the field, you might see Man City's performance like last season.
Liverpool good team will play against Southampton full strength team. But we know that Liverpool team is favorite because they are doing great in last matches and they have good ranking . Liverpool is present at the top of points table and all teams are impressed by the performance of Liverpool team. Liverpool won most of matches of 1st in Premier League and they have 28 points on points table and Man City team is is very far and Liverpool doing progress ,so there is no chance of first position of Man City.Southampton full strength team should work on their defense because if they make their defense strong,they can win this match because Liverpool team will take that team as a small team.
Liverpool's performance this season has been really good, they were making the new manager feel very happy by winning their games and becoming first in the league. They seem to be the favorite to win the league championship this season. However, we shouldn't put Manchester City away just yet because they haven't completed half of the season's games, and they are 5 points behind Liverpool at the top of the league. There is an opportunity for Manchester City to close the gap before the season finishes, if they get back to their winning ways, I am confident that they can secure the top league position from Liverpool since we don't know what strategies Guardiola will come up with.
However, Liverpool's next away game will be with Southampton, and knowing that Manchester United has been playing poorly and defeated them by three goals, it is clear that Liverpool will be able to gain points against them to increase the league standings points from Manchester City. Arne Slot may decide not to utilize his first-tier players in order to prevent any injuries due to their next Champions League match against Real Madrid.
Liverpool's performance in the first 11 games of last season and the points they had are similar to what they have seen this season. However, the biggest proof that Manchester City is not able to perform like last season
In the first 11 matches in the English Premier League, except for one match, Liverpool have not been defeated in any match so far. Liverpool's performance in every match seems to be quite balanced and those who are being played in the positions are performing very well in their respective positions. This season has been relatively easy for Liverpool compared to other seasons as the strongest team in the Premier League, Manchester City, is not performing well this season.
Since Manchester City have not been in good form this season, if Liverpool can finally maintain this consistent performance then I think Liverpool can celebrate winning the title at the end of the season. Liverpool's next match is against Southampton where in this match Liverpool are being put ahead in all directions and of course I think Liverpool will leave the field with a big win in this match.
Manchester City need a win to stay close to Liverpool but Man City's opponent in the next match is very tough they have to play against Tottenham who cannot be underestimated and also the last performance of both of them recently was not good they suffered a defeat, but because this match will be held at the Etihad stadium I think Man City is quite advantaged and bookies make Man City the favorite to win they will try hard to appear confident in front of their supporters.
But I hope otherwise that Man City will continue to decline. The Premier League trophy must roll to create excitement every season, now Liverpool will not easily hand over the top of the standings to Man City. Tottenham is expected to bring a surprise to Pep Guardiola troops who have lost confidence in the last 4 matches. A draw is much more reasonable for both of them to get, with 4.90 this is clearly a temptation. 
Actually, playing 11 matches is not enough to say that Man City cannot perform like last season because Man City's important players were injured at the beginning of this season which caused their performance to decline, on the other hand, Liverpool players are fit and important players have contributed since the beginning of the season, that's what makes Liverpool's performance impressive, just wait when Man City players have recovered and returned to the field, you might see Man City's performance like last season.
I agree with you because this is not the first time we have seen Manchester City perform like this, and they end up winning the Premier League title. I know that Manchester City's performance will change for good if their key players return from injury, but before then they should try and keep a close with Liverpool; if not, it will be difficult for them to overtake Liverpool in the Premier League table. Manchester City's next match is against Tottenham Hotspur; if they fail to beat Tottenham Hotspur at Etihad Stadium and Liverpool beat Southampton, the point gap between Liverpool and Manchester City in the Premier League table will be way too much, which will make it difficult for Manchester City to win the league even though their key players regain fitness. 
Another important match in week 12 is the match between Tottenham vs Manchester City, this is a match that you can wait for because it is important to find out whether Manchester City can improve or get worse. Southampton vs Liverpool is easy to predict, you definitely know who is most expected to win.
I don't see any chance to underestimate Nottingham Forest this season. Nottingham Forest players are performing well this season. Nottingham lost their last match against Newcastle. However, Nottingham Forest have won their previous three matches in a row. More importantly, Liverpool lost their only match this season against Nottingham Forest. This shows that Nottingham Forest has the ability to perform well against big teams.
Nottingham Forest's performance has been stable this season, but there are still some weaknesses in Nottingham Forest's squad. Nottingham Forest's main weakness is their attack. There is no experienced scorer in Nottingham Forest's squad. Because of this, the team may face problems in the future.
Another important match in week 12 is the match between Tottenham vs Manchester City, this is a match that you can wait for because it is important to find out whether Manchester City can improve or get worse. Southampton vs Liverpool is easy to predict, you definitely know who is most expected to win.
Manchester City have been really disappointing recently. They lost their last 4 official games. This is really big for a team being called one of the strongest teams in the world. I can't say I'm sad for them in the Premier League though. 
Because I really want to see a different champion this year. Liverpool look really promising for that for now.
Anyways, every team get out of form sometimes. I'm curious about whether Guardiola will still win the league title another time despite these hard times. What do you think, Liverpool or Manchester City?
snip Because I really want to see a different champion this year. Liverpool look really promising for that for now.Anyways, every team get out of form sometimes. I'm curious about whether Guardiola will still win the league title another time despite these hard times. What do you think, Liverpool or Manchester City?
Honestly I think there are still a lot of matches to be played. So it is very early to actually comment on which team is going to win the English Premier League title. But what we are watching right now definitely indicates that Liverpool is going to be the winner. That is if they are able to continue performing like this and be consistent of course. Now I also think that if Manchester City is able to start performing well and if there are actually some bad performances from Liverpool, we might very well see another English Premier League cup for the famous Guardiola.
So right now I think it is going to be Liverpool. But that might change very quickly.
Liverpool's performance in the first 11 games of last season and the points they had are similar to what they have seen this season. However, the biggest proof that Manchester City is not able to perform like last season this season is the points table of this season. Liverpool and Manchester City have played equal number of matches in the Premier League with Liverpool topping the points table with 28 points while Manchester City are second in the points table with 23 points. That is, by playing this small number of matches, a big gap of five points has been created between Manchester City and Liverpool. If Liverpool performs like this until the end of the season, on the contrary, if Manchester City does such a messy performance, it goes without saying that Liverpool's title will be confirmed a few matches before the end of the season.
I don't have much expectation with him. He is still young and doesn't have enough experience to train a big club to compete in the top premier league. But, if we look at how great coaches form when they beginning train a big club like Manchester United, I am optimistic that Amorim is not like Ten Hag who did not get respect when began on MU. We have to wait what he first step to increase the performance of MU, If he would bring his player from sporting to MU, it will be the same as ten Hag (when he brings Antony from ajax). But, MU that time not so needy a player like that so that it does not run effectively and Ten Hag was made his own mistakes.
We understand the victory over Liverpool and the defeat we received made Liverpool never lose again in all competitions until the last match against The Villa.
While Nottingham Forest in their last match suffered a defeat to Newcastle even though they had a 1-0 lead in the 21st minute.
I might start to think twice about placing a bet on Nottingham's match after they were defeated by Newcastle.
Nottingham's good trend began to break when this international break was over. They will be welcomed by Arsenal, Manchester City, Manchester United and Ipswich although against Ipswich the chances of Nottingham winning after visiting Arsenal are greater.
you are right, the next matches for Nottingham will definitely not be easy for them. but anyway this season they started quite well. their problem is not being consistent, then it will be an evaluation for the team to be able to improve this season. and they have to make better changes next season. although we can't expect much from Nottingham, they are indeed not favored compared to other teams. at least what they showed this season is something good. we can see how 2 seasons ago they struggled hard to get out of the relegation zone. and they are currently starting to be good at the beginning of the season. While Nottingham Forest in their last match suffered a defeat to Newcastle even though they had a 1-0 lead in the 21st minute.
I might start to think twice about placing a bet on Nottingham's match after they were defeated by Newcastle.
Nottingham's good trend began to break when this international break was over. They will be welcomed by Arsenal, Manchester City, Manchester United and Ipswich although against Ipswich the chances of Nottingham winning after visiting Arsenal are greater.
I don't have much expectation with him. He is still young and doesn't have enough experience to train a big club to compete in the top premier league. But, if we look at how great coaches form when they beginning train a big club like Manchester United, I am optimistic that Amorim is not like Ten Hag who did not get respect when began on MU. We have to wait what he first step to increase the performance of MU, If he would bring his player from sporting to MU, it will be the same as ten Hag (when he brings Antony from ajax). But, MU that time not so needy a player like that so that it does not run effectively and Ten Hag was made his own mistakes.
I saw this post on the Premier League’s official Instagram page. The caption was ‘so much cab change in a year’. At first I thought it was a roast at Manchester City since they were number 1 last season and now are struggling between games to keep their position at number 2 on the table. But more interesting is that Arsenal didn’t really change, they maintained the same spot. And Manchester United have dropped drastically this year, from 8th on the table last year to 13th on the table. Which other team caught your eye?
Besides Nottingham Forest, Everton is also my concern. If Everton remains like now, maybe they are at the end of the season to fight not to be degraded.
For Liverpool, we always monitor it. The new season Arne Slot is happy but we don't expect much to him.
While Nottingham Forest in their last match suffered a defeat to Newcastle even though they had a 1-0 lead in the 21st minute.
I might start to think twice about placing a bet on Nottingham's match after they were defeated by Newcastle.
Nottingham's good trend began to break when this international break was over. They will be welcomed by Arsenal, Manchester City, Manchester United and Ipswich although against Ipswich the chances of Nottingham winning after visiting Arsenal are greater.
Actually, playing 11 matches is not enough to say that Man City cannot perform like last season because Man City's important players were injured at the beginning of this season which caused their performance to decline, on the other hand, Liverpool players are fit and important players have contributed since the beginning of the season, that's what makes Liverpool's performance impressive, just wait when Man City players have recovered and returned to the field, you might see Man City's performance like last season.
For now only Rodri is out for the long term due to a more serious injury and the rest of the players are likely to be available for the upcoming games. We will see how Man City perform in the upcoming games and we need at least 5 games to see if Man City still have a chance to catch Liverpool who are at the top of the standings.A 5 point gap seems like it needs 2 wins in the upcoming games and Liverpool will also not be able to let Man City overtake them.
The competition is getting very competitive and it is very interesting to watch the competition between the top teams trying to provide a bigger score difference.
Still have a chance to catch Liverpool? Less than 29% of the season has been played and you are talking about Manchester City and whether they have a chance to catch Liverpool. Seriously, of course they have a chance to catch Liverpool not only theoretically, but very practically. Manchester City hasn't had such a crisis in the past, but they had winning streams that were unprecedented. Nothing speaks against Manchester City having another one of those and then they are likely to close the gap. There are also still two games to be played between Liverpool and Manchester City. It is a very long way to go for Liverpool and way too early to talk about the title winner at this point.
I don't have much expectation with him. He is still young and doesn't have enough experience to train a big club to compete in the top premier league. But, if we look at how great coaches form when they beginning train a big club like Manchester United, I am optimistic that Amorim is not like Ten Hag who did not get respect when began on MU. We have to wait what he first step to increase the performance of MU, If he would bring his player from sporting to MU, it will be the same as ten Hag (when he brings Antony from ajax). But, MU that time not so needy a player like that so that it does not run effectively and Ten Hag was made his own mistakes.
Yeah exactly. He is still a young manager who is 39 now. There is always a question mark with such preferences for big teams honestly. Like when Xabi Alonso signed for Leverkusen, Kompany - Bayern and more...
I don't know maybe it would have been better for the Red Devils to sign a successful manager with many big titles. But I can't be sure of anything.
I just hope Amorim works out for them.This season can still be saved. I mean a Champions League ticket by finishing in top 4. Don't be distracted with their being at the 13th position. The gap with the 4th position is only 4 points.
Actually, playing 11 matches is not enough to say that Man City cannot perform like last season because Man City's important players were injured at the beginning of this season which caused their performance to decline, on the other hand, Liverpool players are fit and important players have contributed since the beginning of the season, that's what makes Liverpool's performance impressive, just wait when Man City players have recovered and returned to the field, you might see Man City's performance like last season.
For now only Rodri is out for the long term due to a more serious injury and the rest of the players are likely to be available for the upcoming games. We will see how Man City perform in the upcoming games and we need at least 5 games to see if Man City still have a chance to catch Liverpool who are at the top of the standings.A 5 point gap seems like it needs 2 wins in the upcoming games and Liverpool will also not be able to let Man City overtake them.
The competition is getting very competitive and it is very interesting to watch the competition between the top teams trying to provide a bigger score difference.
Man City are having a difficult season with a series of consecutive losses and Liverpool are predicted to be able to usurp the reigning Premier League champions. Man City are in crisis due to the impact of the injury storm. Not only Rodri but names like Kevin De Bruyne, Kyle Walker, Jack Grealish, Jeremy Doku, Savinho and Oscar Bobb are all injured, creating a huge gap in the squad. There is still no information about whether the injured players will return to play in the next matches. The absence of these players means that Man City not only have difficulty controlling the midfield but also weakens their defense. A clear opportunity for direct rivals like Liverpool to benefit the most from this situation.
Round 12 will take place after the international break, with the highlight being the clash between Man City and Tottenham. Meanwhile, Liverpool will meet bottom team Southampton, which seems to open up an opportunity for Liverpool to widen the gap with Pep Guardiola's army.
Actually, playing 11 matches is not enough to say that Man City cannot perform like last season because Man City's important players were injured at the beginning of this season which caused their performance to decline, on the other hand, Liverpool players are fit and important players have contributed since the beginning of the season, that's what makes Liverpool's performance impressive, just wait when Man City players have recovered and returned to the field, you might see Man City's performance like last season.
For now only Rodri is out for the long term due to a more serious injury and the rest of the players are likely to be available for the upcoming games. We will see how Man City perform in the upcoming games and we need at least 5 games to see if Man City still have a chance to catch Liverpool who are at the top of the standings.A 5 point gap seems like it needs 2 wins in the upcoming games and Liverpool will also not be able to let Man City overtake them.
The competition is getting very competitive and it is very interesting to watch the competition between the top teams trying to provide a bigger score difference.
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