Just like you suggested, I think he probably do not have the quality of players he'll want to work with but whatever is the cause for their current poor run, Leicester City management must try work with Dutch man to bring a lasting solution to it
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Just like you suggested, I think he probably do not have the quality of players he'll want to work with but whatever is the cause for their current poor run, Leicester City management must try work with Dutch man to bring a lasting solution to it
Nottingham forest is the most difficult opponent faced by Liverpool this season, not only because of yesterday's draw, but precisely in the first meeting of the two teams this season, they also got their first defeat from Nottingham and that it was the only defeat obtained by Liverpool so far in the English league.
Manchester city, still extending their negative trend this season although in their last 3 matches they were able to win, their poor consistency and defence has made them slump and out of the championship path, the league journey is still long, although Liverpool is quite comfortable at the top of the standings but I think all possibilities can still happen later.
Manchester city, still extending their negative trend this season although in their last 3 matches they were able to win, their poor consistency and defence has made them slump and out of the championship path, the league journey is still long, although Liverpool is quite comfortable at the top of the standings but I think all possibilities can still happen later.
For me, the PL has clearly opened up a lot, and there is a clear winner, which is Liverpool, the team that I thought would continue to compete but whose effectiveness has decreased a little has been Arsenal, however, now another team that almost no one names but that is playing a role that I no longer understand is MU, until now they have not been able to have good consistency and this delays everything, for me one of the things they should do is change their mentality, the coach has already implemented his strategy and it seems that he is not going to change it, so this is complicated, and City is doing very badly.
Managing Manchester United has got to be one of the easy peasy job I've seen. All you need do is deploy that traditional British style ofnplay with player who are pacy, determined, consistent and high morale and mentality strong. Well, Ruud has a good understanding of the club Manchester United and he had players to do that. I haven't seen the games they've played so, I can't say Ruud is to be faulted or his players. Well, the coach should do better. I'm not here to defend him. Results been poor and no sign of improvement.
I'm more excited with the development of Newcastle United. Maybe this is the season to see Eddie Howe finally winning a trophy? He could also make it to the European competitions if he and his boys be this consistent till may. I give him flowers this season.
I think the best way to be sure if Manchester City are back to their old mode of winning every game in the second half of the season is to observe how they will perform in the Premier League and champion's league in the next 5-10 games. If they show any form of inconsistencies, then they should forget about retaining the title.
The latest result shouldn't be a yardstick for their next success.
Most people are claiming that Manchester City is back to their old form after winning two matches in the Premier League, but we should know that Manchester City played against weak teams, which they are supposed to win, and they haven’t faced any strong team yet. I agree there is an improvement in Manchester City’s performance because they do lose and draw when they played against weak teams before, but as we can see, they are beginning to get wins in their matches, so they are improving.The latest result shouldn't be a yardstick for their next success.
Manchester City's next match will be against Brentford. I know Brentford is not really a strong club, but they are dangerous and shouldn’t be underestimated. Let’s see if Manchester City will be able to get a win in the match. Let’s see if it’s going to be easy for them, and even if Manchester City is back to their form, I am not so confident that they will be able to win the Premier League title this season, because Liverpool which is also in first position, won’t be losing points either, and the point difference is just kind of much. I don’t know how Manchester City will be able to cover it up.
I guess we can now see what I was trying to say. This time round, they are not so consistent. Even Brentford managed to pull off a draw against them after Manchester City leading by 2 goals at first. This was something that was almost impossible to pull off on the Manchester City of the previous few seasons. This season, it's Liverpool's trophy to lose or Arsenal could also try to challenge if they were serious enough.
I can't really point out how they could fix this, of course it's a very tough situation, but at the end of the day we could see this changing and we could probably have a situation where we are going to end up with a much better return without a doubt.
It's really shocking me that Nottingham forest is standing on top 4 on the table since they are newly relegated side to be this strong at the start of the season up to this moment, I am really thinking this team can perform like the way Leicester did last time they collected the premier League title, do you think Nottingham can do such miracle?
Everyone is surprised how nothingham forest made it to the thirds position even leaving some respectable clubs behind and this why this is called football out of the blues they are maintaining the third position and I won't even lie this is like one of the most shity season have encountered because how the hell are this other clubs struggling in fact Chelsea was doing okay not untill every started changing again and this whole thing is becoming more tiring because you can not even assume that is is what if going to happen exactly in a particular game unlike before thay you can predict.
Even if they have the strength to be able to win am sure that they won't be able to go that far Liverpool have already, given hope of Winning this season so no matter how nothingham play like Leicester it's not going to happen, clubs that this should not even give their selfs hope because even before they can be able to archive there dream it's going to take some time, before they will be able to win, and if they are able to bring more empowerment then they should be able to make that dream come true.
Yesterday's match really disappointed many fans and bettors. The draw for each popular team seemed unreasonable. But actually as a bettor who always takes risks, it will be an advantage when betting on a draw in all three matches.
Most people that placed bets on the match lost their bets because they never expected the result of those matches. I never believed Chelsea and Manchester City would get a draw in their matches, I was expecting those two clubs to win their matches easily, but they could only get a draw in there match. The two teams dominated the match, but they couldn’t get a win, I think it’s just better to be careful when gambling now, we are currently in the second phase of the competition, and we should be expecting surprises.I knew the Liverpool vs. Nottingham Forest match wouldn’t be easy, and I never had confidence in Liverpool to get a win in the match, I was even expecting them to lose the match because Nottingham Forest is just a dangerous club this season. They are really performing well, and they were able to get a win against Liverpool in the first leg of the match, so I expected the match to be so difficult for Liverpool.
After we saw Chelsea perform quite well for a few weeks, in the end the team lost its consistency again. Where in the last 5 matches in the Premier League, Chelsea was only able to get 3 points, and all three points were obtained from draws. In other words, in the last five matches in the Premier League, Chelsea was unable to get a single win, even when facing a weaker team.
And regarding Man City, they have not been able to fully achieve more consistent results. Pep Guardiola's team seems to be still quite limping to be able to return to the top position.
Meanwhile regarding Nottingham Forest, they are a team that was never expected to be this strong for this season, even so far they are the only team that has been able to stop Liverpool's steps to continue getting points in every match.
I bet on Liverpool to win, I bet on Manchester City to win and I also bet on Chelsea, but it's unbelievable that I lost all 3 games. It seems to me that all 3 teams are not at their best. Liverpool were doing very well, but since they played Manchester United it seems that they have declined a little or maybe they are having very bad luck every time they play Nottingham Forest. If Arsenal wins then they will be able to reduce the difference in points they have with Liverpool, I hope Liverpool wins in the next games.
Yesterday's match really disappointed many fans and bettors. The draw for each popular team seemed unreasonable. But actually as a bettor who always takes risks, it will be an advantage when betting on a draw in all three matches. Not only Liverpool whose performance has been very good, but also Chelsea and Man City also appeared very attractive which made us think that victory would be easy to get. Unfortunately, the longer the match, the more mistakes were made by the top teams that made the match end in a draw.Chelsea lost so many clear chances in the first half from the fact Jackson wasn't clinical and our players/defense did poorly to get that penalty. After that, I lost interest in watching the match. Thank God Recce James was able to get a goal through his freekick and we did get a draw. To be frank Chelsea needs to better in their coming matches in order to make it too four.
Manchester City bottled a two goals lead and Pep will be actually disappointed. Anyway, I think they will soon become better after their new signings and possibly get someone to alternate with Haaland who hasn't been having a good performance consecutively.
Yesterday's match really disappointed many fans and bettors. The draw for each popular team seemed unreasonable. But actually as a bettor who always takes risks, it will be an advantage when betting on a draw in all three matches.
Most people that placed bets on the match lost their bets because they never expected the result of those matches. I never believed Chelsea and Manchester City would get a draw in their matches, I was expecting those two clubs to win their matches easily, but they could only get a draw in there match. The two teams dominated the match, but they couldn’t get a win, I think it’s just better to be careful when gambling now, we are currently in the second phase of the competition, and we should be expecting surprises.I knew the Liverpool vs. Nottingham Forest match wouldn’t be easy, and I never had confidence in Liverpool to get a win in the match, I was even expecting them to lose the match because Nottingham Forest is just a dangerous club this season. They are really performing well, and they were able to get a win against Liverpool in the first leg of the match, so I expected the match to be so difficult for Liverpool.
I bet on Liverpool to win, I bet on Manchester City to win and I also bet on Chelsea, but it's unbelievable that I lost all 3 games. It seems to me that all 3 teams are not at their best. Liverpool were doing very well, but since they played Manchester United it seems that they have declined a little or maybe they are having very bad luck every time they play Nottingham Forest. If Arsenal wins then they will be able to reduce the difference in points they have with Liverpool, I hope Liverpool wins in the next games.
Yesterday's match really disappointed many fans and bettors. The draw for each popular team seemed unreasonable. But actually as a bettor who always takes risks, it will be an advantage when betting on a draw in all three matches. Not only Liverpool whose performance has been very good, but also Chelsea and Man City also appeared very attractive which made us think that victory would be easy to get. Unfortunately, the longer the match, the more mistakes were made by the top teams that made the match end in a draw.I also bet on those three matches, but I just assumed that I had bad luck and didn't assume it was an unreasonable result. Because for me, any result in any match will still make sense, which makes us not accept the result, because we have the expectation of winning the bet. Thus, I consider it something that is still reasonable and natural to happen in sports results like this, because in sports and or soccer any result can happen.
At the same time, I realize that Chelsea also from the previous few matches has experienced a decline, Manchester City is also still trying to get up. But about Liverpool, that Nottingham is in an impressive trend at this moment, because their first meeting is also the fact that Nottingham beat Liverpool, and Nottingham managed to maintain its good performance in the second meeting against Liverpool, so for a draw for them for me still makes sense even though I also lost the bet.
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I bet on Liverpool to win, I bet on Manchester City to win and I also bet on Chelsea, but it's unbelievable that I lost all 3 games. It seems to me that all 3 teams are not at their best. Liverpool were doing very well, but since they played Manchester United it seems that they have declined a little or maybe they are having very bad luck every time they play Nottingham Forest. If Arsenal wins then they will be able to reduce the difference in points they have with Liverpool, I hope Liverpool wins in the next games.
Yesterday's match really disappointed many fans and bettors. The draw for each popular team seemed unreasonable. But actually as a bettor who always takes risks, it will be an advantage when betting on a draw in all three matches. Not only Liverpool whose performance has been very good, but also Chelsea and Man City also appeared very attractive which made us think that victory would be easy to get. Unfortunately, the longer the match, the more mistakes were made by the top teams that made the match end in a draw.Draws will happen even more often so the earlier we appreciate this the better. After all Liverpool didn't draw with low team because Nottingham Forest are also competing for the title. Every bettor should always be open to the two sides of a bet, it's either they win or a loss.
^ full-time results of all of today's games.
I expected Arsenal to trip over Tottenham and lose points (as Tottenham has a good history of earning points on higher-rated clubs) but they delivered and jumped bak into 2nd place, 4 points behind Liverpool.
But I think another win by Newcastle is more worthy of being mentioned. It's their 9th consecutive win (all competitions considered) and 6th Premier League win in a row. Together with Nottm Forest, they prove to be a dark horse of this season. I don't expect them to win, but they surely have a chance for the top 3 or top 4 at the expense of much bigger and wealthier clubs such as Chelsea or Man City.
Arsenal won but not in the way I expected. I thought they would be more comfortable. But conceding the goal first must have made a change of plans. They still made a lovely comeback in the same half in fact and the final score difference could have been bigger.
Did you see the ankle breaker by Trossard?
Jokes aside I hope Pedro Porro is healthy now. His fall was scaring. After this win the point difference with Liverpool is 4 but we shouldn't forget Liverpool still has a missing game also. As for Newcastle, I respect their rise a lot lately. I don't know how much longer they will keep up winning but they can once again be in top 4 race this season. I don't think they will have a big downfall. Especially while Isak is playing incredible... 
I bet on Liverpool to win, I bet on Manchester City to win and I also bet on Chelsea, but it's unbelievable that I lost all 3 games. It seems to me that all 3 teams are not at their best. Liverpool were doing very well, but since they played Manchester United it seems that they have declined a little or maybe they are having very bad luck every time they play Nottingham Forest. If Arsenal wins then they will be able to reduce the difference in points they have with Liverpool, I hope Liverpool wins in the next games.
Yesterday's match really disappointed many fans and bettors. The draw for each popular team seemed unreasonable. But actually as a bettor who always takes risks, it will be an advantage when betting on a draw in all three matches. Not only Liverpool whose performance has been very good, but also Chelsea and Man City also appeared very attractive which made us think that victory would be easy to get. Unfortunately, the longer the match, the more mistakes were made by the top teams that made the match end in a draw. 
Manchester City balanced. Chelsea draw. Liverpool draw. Incredible Premier League. Surely many have lost money. LOL
yesterday was a very bad day for me:
I bet on Liverpool to win, I bet on Manchester City to win and I also bet on Chelsea, but it's unbelievable that I lost all 3 games. It seems to me that all 3 teams are not at their best. Liverpool were doing very well, but since they played Manchester United it seems that they have declined a little or maybe they are having very bad luck every time they play Nottingham Forest. If Arsenal wins then they will be able to reduce the difference in points they have with Liverpool, I hope Liverpool wins in the next games.
Maybe yes Liverpool can appear not as expected after the results received when facing Manchester United or other possibilities because of what he faced Nottingham Forest who was in the form of their best game.
I care about the bettors that I estimate many people failed because yesterday's match seemed like a match that made many predictions wrong.
Yesterday I wanted to say that the Arsenal match against Tottenham needs to be careful. It could be that Arsenal will win to make this league gambling more interesting until the end of the season. Didn't have time to be a post because I had fallen asleep, when I saw the results Arsenal won so that competition was getting tougher.
Guardiola really loves Gundogan normally and that's why he wanted to bring him back to the team. But his performance has dropped very significantly recently indeed. Rodri's absence pushes Guardiola to select Gundogan for the starting lineup. Otherwise I don't think we would see him on the pitch. As Rodri is out for a long time maybe Guardiola would think of bringing a new DM before the end of this window.
I also think that Guardiola is not very happy with the goalkeepers' play, Ederson is sitting on the bench, and after the match with Brentford Guardiola completely lost his temper with Ortega, it was a terrible sight, Guardiola's nerves clearly can't withstand what is happening to the team.
If Nottingham Forest was successful this season as you said, I would pat them to them for the success they had been waiting for.
How do you define the success of Nottingham Forest? Win EPL trophy, finish in the top 3, or join UCL next season? I personally think that this team has been successful this season. In the last season, they were in the 17th place (almost in the relegation zone). It is surprised to see them in the top 3 EPL standings. If they keep playing consistently, I'm sure they probably finish in the top 5 at least.Finishing in the top 4 and playing in the Champions League next season is probably the definition of Nottingham Forest's success that I mean even though they have historically been there as a team that has won the trophy 2 times.
When you see their struggle last season which ended in the position you mentioned, of course it is surprising when this season they are showing their best form. Not only us, maybe many Premier League fans are also surprised.
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Manchester City balanced. Chelsea draw. Liverpool draw. Incredible Premier League. Surely many have lost money. LOL
Now we review. Manchester City has 70% win because the score is 0-2. In fact Brentford equated a score of two goals in 10 minutes.
Chelsea won but Bournemouth was able to turn things around to 1-2. Finally the final minute drama made a draw.
How about Liverpool? Describe yourself. Crazy.
OMG that was an unexpected result luckily I missed yesterday's bet if I bet I might have suffered a loss too because Chelsea, Man City and Liverpool have been favorites to win this match but it turned out they were only able to get a draw, for the Liverpool match I think it's not too surprising because Nottingham Forest is not a club that can be underestimated this season so the draw is a pretty satisfying result for them for Chelsea and Man City it's a shame they were only able to get a draw when they were quite dominant in controlling the match.Now we review. Manchester City has 70% win because the score is 0-2. In fact Brentford equated a score of two goals in 10 minutes.
Chelsea won but Bournemouth was able to turn things around to 1-2. Finally the final minute drama made a draw.
How about Liverpool? Describe yourself. Crazy.
A lot of people did lose money in yesterday's games specially with the mentioned clubs, but I believe this is nothing new to bettors, there are always days like yesterday, and there's nothing we can do about it other than accept the loses and move on to the next.
It's really shocking me that Nottingham forest is standing on top 4 on the table since they are newly relegated side to be this strong at the start of the season up to this moment, I am really thinking this team can perform like the way Leicester did last time they collected the premier League title, do you think Nottingham can do such miracle?
That’s what they’ve got in view, to rewrite the Leicester City story in the premier league history. They’ve been astonishing and don’t look like a team that would let any of the top teams ride on them. In fact, they are one of the top teams now, despite them coming from relegation over the course of last season. When they played Liverpool just recently, they very much disoriented the Liverpool play in the first half and got them into a counter attacking contest.The game was much different in the second half but, you could see the courage of Nottingham Forest. I don think they could manage a win of the trophy this season though.
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