Amorim managing to beat City in both teams is a great fun information. Not a lot of people can do that, and it's like nearly just a month difference, month and a half at most, and he did that with both different teams that should have lost as well.
Normally Sporting is much worse than City, and United is much worse too, and yet they are ending up with wins. This could be considered because Amorim is great, but also the reality is that it is not about Amorim at all and it's about the fact that City has been terrible for a while and that is why they are ending up with terrible results. It has been like 11-12 games since they started to be bad and they are improving their terrible period every week, we keep seeing them lose more and more. Pep is losing his mind, can't figure out why players who normally could win the league, ended up playing this badly suddenly, and he is going mental over why this is happening, I can't really figure out why neither.
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Guardiola sometimes says the injury list is one of the reasons why they are struggling. However I also agree that there is something beyond that behind this very poor form. 
He celebrated early after getting ahead. Because he knows how bad they have been recently especially defensively. I can't say they are great in the attacking area also of course.
It looks like this is really the season for a different club to lift the PL trophy. I'd like to see Chelsea doing it.
He celebrated early after getting ahead. Because he knows how bad they have been recently especially defensively. I can't say they are great in the attacking area also of course.
It looks like this is really the season for a different club to lift the PL trophy. I'd like to see Chelsea doing it.
The guy is just using silly excuses to cover up his failures. How many times has he used uncompleted players like absence of Haaland, De Bruyne, Rodri and many more to win matches, it's now that they are facing difficulties he want to use injuries to cover his incompetency. It's normal to lose and you can't help it, he just can't believe he won 4 Premier League in a row and then fall down like the way they are doing this season but they aren't the first to see under performance.
He was using Rodri absence some days ago in an interview and I was feeling shame for him, you can't made it up like you are just a novice, he has won Champions League before now, I don't know why he is trying to explain to people he doesn't owe any explanation, it will only makes him weak and weaker and so the team will continue to fall because other teams will comes hard on them at any given opportunities.
What the hell is wrong with Pep Guardiola and his players? They have become a laughing stock in the Premier League. Once a champion now becoming a team battling for top four finish. I don't think their recent struggles and dip in form is just based on injuries alone. At this point I will say the entire club is in total crisis and they require urgent attention from the club management to put heads together and try to come out of this mess they found themselves.
Guardiola sometimes says the injury list is one of the reasons why they are struggling. However I also agree that there is something beyond that behind this very poor form.
He celebrated early after getting ahead. Because he knows how bad they have been recently especially defensively. I can't say they are great in the attacking area also of course.
It looks like this is really the season for a different club to lift the PL trophy. I'd like to see Chelsea doing it.
I’m happy for Manchester United that they finally have a manager can handled interviews with the press without making silly comments. The way Amorim deals with questions from the press is a huge contrast to what we saw under Erik ten Hag. Two managers with totally different mentality. Amorim won Pep Guardiola twice with two different teams in two different competitions and he hasn’t made a comment about it in the post match interviews. The other manager was busy crowning himself the second best manager in the league for winning an FA Cup.
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What the hell is wrong with Pep Guardiola and his players? They have become a laughing stock in the Premier League. Once a champion now becoming a team battling for top four finish. I don't think their recent struggles and dip in form is just based on injuries alone. At this point I will say the entire club is in total crisis and they require urgent attention from the club management to put heads together and try to come out of this mess they found themselves.
Seems to me like pep and his boys are at a loggerheads, I remember saying this clearly before that Manchester city's bad performance isn't or wasn't born out of injured players, their underperformance in almost all their games is as a result of something more deeper than any of us can know or tell.Personally, after they lost to Manchester united yesterday, I came to the conclusion that pep Guardiola and his boys are not at peace within themselves, there is definitely some in-house fight going on which they do not want to let out to the public, there constant loses even to the simplest/smallest clubs have gone beyond what we all should consider as a result of injured players.
Most likely yes. I think all of City's problems are rooted in the same thing, which is injured players. They have no preparation to face massive injuries happened at the same time. However, they do have some benched players, but these player don't really meet their main squad's quality.
This makes them struggle to survive and beat any teams in all of competitions. I think it's all where their problems started.
One thing I believe we all agree on is that Manchester city is not in their best form currently, and something needs to be done and fast, they are almost loosing their credibility amongst fans, and support is running Low, I wonder how many more Matches they will have to loose, and at what position they are going to end up in the league table if they continue with this mode of play.
What the hell is wrong with Pep Guardiola and his players? They have become a laughing stock in the Premier League. Once a champion now becoming a team battling for top four finish. I don't think their recent struggles and dip in form is just based on injuries alone. At this point I will say the entire club is in total crisis and they require urgent attention from the club management to put heads together and try to come out of this mess they found themselves.
Actually it is a natural thing where a team will experience a slump after they dominate so far, what is experienced by Manchester City has also ever been experienced by Munich, Arsenal, Chelsea and even Juventus in Serie A, but apart from that, I think the problems facing Manchester City at the moment seem to be more complex than just player injuries as you said, most likely there are indications of internal problems that might actually affect their performance, in a difficult situation like now, players, coaches, management and also fans should unite to find solutions to these problems and not just blame the coach or players. 
What the hell is wrong with Pep Guardiola and his players? They have become a laughing stock in the Premier League. Once a champion now becoming a team battling for top four finish. I don't think their recent struggles and dip in form is just based on injuries alone. At this point I will say the entire club is in total crisis and they require urgent attention from the club management to put heads together and try to come out of this mess they found themselves.
Seems to me like pep and his boys are at a loggerheads, I remember saying this clearly before that Manchester city's bad performance isn't or wasn't born out of injured players, their underperformance in almost all their games is as a result of something more deeper than any of us can know or tell.Personally, after they lost to Manchester united yesterday, I came to the conclusion that pep Guardiola and his boys are not at peace within themselves, there is definitely some in-house fight going on which they do not want to let out to the public, there constant loses even to the simplest/smallest clubs have gone beyond what we all should consider as a result of injured players.
Most likely yes. I think all of City's problems are rooted in the same thing, which is injured players. They have no preparation to face massive injuries happened at the same time. However, they do have some benched players, but these player don't really meet their main squad's quality.
This makes them struggle to survive and beat any teams in all of competitions. I think it's all where their problems started.
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What the hell is wrong with Pep Guardiola and his players? They have become a laughing stock in the Premier League. Once a champion now becoming a team battling for top four finish. I don't think their recent struggles and dip in form is just based on injuries alone. At this point I will say the entire club is in total crisis and they require urgent attention from the club management to put heads together and try to come out of this mess they found themselves.
Seems to me like pep and his boys are at a loggerheads, I remember saying this clearly before that Manchester city's bad performance isn't or wasn't born out of injured players, their underperformance in almost all their games is as a result of something more deeper than any of us can know or tell.Personally, after they lost to Manchester united yesterday, I came to the conclusion that pep Guardiola and his boys are not at peace within themselves, there is definitely some in-house fight going on which they do not want to let out to the public, there constant loses even to the simplest/smallest clubs have gone beyond what we all should consider as a result of injured players.
I still don't understand how a team with the same coach(manager), same players just dropped from being invisible to be the beating boys of the league 🤷
Is it possible that these City guys are doing this as some kind of protest over something like the 115 charges and the want the world to know they aren't happy or maybe its a phase
If it's not deliberate, why don't we have rumors of some kind of board review of Pep or maybe potential sacking when he himself tells journalists he isn't any good.
Is it possible that these City guys are doing this as some kind of protest over something like the 115 charges and the want the world to know they aren't happy or maybe its a phase
If it's not deliberate, why don't we have rumors of some kind of board review of Pep or maybe potential sacking when he himself tells journalists he isn't any good.
What the hell is wrong with Pep Guardiola and his players? They have become a laughing stock in the Premier League. Once a champion now becoming a team battling for top four finish. I don't think their recent struggles and dip in form is just based on injuries alone. At this point I will say the entire club is in total crisis and they require urgent attention from the club management to put heads together and try to come out of this mess they found themselves.
Everyone is talking about United beating City at the Etihad Stadium, I didn't watch the game but I don't think it was just United being brilliant but there was a factor of City being on the decline.
At their best City are hard to beat at home and if United are on improvement then that would be a good thing but I still doubt it.
There is nothing wrong with them celebrating the victory over Man City because you know yourself since the Manchester Derby match Man City has always been superior but this time Man United managed to beat them and the last time Man United won in the EPL against City happened a long time ago. At their best City are hard to beat at home and if United are on improvement then that would be a good thing but I still doubt it.
Chelsea are on an eight-game unbeaten run in the Premier League, with their continued positive results putting them above Manchester City and Arsenal, just two points behind Liverpool at the top of the table. Enzo Maresca managed to concoct a very good tactic by capitalizing on young players and players discarded from other clubs such as Cole Palmer, Felix and Sancho, now they have returned to the positive path with 5 consecutive wins in the Premier League.
Luck is on Chelsea's side this season, when other teams are struggling due to many key players being injured due to a tight schedule, they have actually managed to improve their performance and Enzo Maresca also has a stock of players who have almost the same quality between the core players and the reserves. Now they are a big threat to Liverpool in the title race.
Luck is on Chelsea's side this season, when other teams are struggling due to many key players being injured due to a tight schedule, they have actually managed to improve their performance and Enzo Maresca also has a stock of players who have almost the same quality between the core players and the reserves. Now they are a big threat to Liverpool in the title race.
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Everyone is talking about United beating City at the Etihad Stadium, I didn't watch the game but I don't think it was just United being brilliant but there was a factor of City being on the decline.
At their best City are hard to beat at home and if United are on improvement then that would be a good thing but I still doubt it.
That some predictions and sources from Google say that the victory for Man City is very large, almost 75% draw 19% and victory for Man United is only 6%, all of that suddenly turned around when Man United created a goal to equalize the score, and sure enough at the end of the match Man United was able to turn things around against Man City, which some sources said they would come out as the winner, but the reality was all gone with the goal scored at the end of the match I know many are disappointed with Man City with a drastic decline in performance that makes many observers wonder about Man City this season, this is not a matter of improving or not from both of them but there was a lucky goal created by Amad Diallo in the 90th minute that this goal was a painful goal for Man City supporters for the first time.At their best City are hard to beat at home and if United are on improvement then that would be a good thing but I still doubt it.
Prediction is a prediction. It's based on the various metrict, but none knows what's gonna be the output from the game. It's a common thing when City favored to win the game. They played at home with few of their key players back to the squad. That factor contributed a lot to their chance to win the game, but the result didn't even satisfy us, right?
The prediction in google is based on the various metrics taken from various sources. These metrics include home/away games, table stats, and line-ups. You can't use Google's prediction to accurately predict the result.
Full-time result:
Man City 1 - 2 Man United
The game highlights, for those who haven't seen it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFKfe4vSsBk
What an absolutely disastrous last minutes for Pep Guardiola. Horrible mistakes in defense shifted the win to their arch-rivals. The worst possible outcome.
I wonder how much time will the club owners give him to fix performance problems before losing patience. Given the phenomenal work he has done with the club in recent years, he probably still has a lot of credit and trust from owners and fans, but he will have to take some actions in the January transfer window, to let some fresh blood in to turn things around.
Yes I agree with you. Manchester City made a very costly error in the last minutes, a sloppy defense led to their defeat to Manchester United. Manchester City are in crisis, and they have to act fast if they want to finish this season in the top four. The transfer window is fast approaching and Pep Guardiola should focus his attention to bringing in good quality players that will be able to contribute to the success of the club if he wants to turn their already disastrous season around. Man City 1 - 2 Man United
The game highlights, for those who haven't seen it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFKfe4vSsBk
What an absolutely disastrous last minutes for Pep Guardiola. Horrible mistakes in defense shifted the win to their arch-rivals. The worst possible outcome.
I wonder how much time will the club owners give him to fix performance problems before losing patience. Given the phenomenal work he has done with the club in recent years, he probably still has a lot of credit and trust from owners and fans, but he will have to take some actions in the January transfer window, to let some fresh blood in to turn things around.
Everyone is talking about United beating City at the Etihad Stadium, I didn't watch the game but I don't think it was just United being brilliant but there was a factor of City being on the decline.
At their best City are hard to beat at home and if United are on improvement then that would be a good thing but I still doubt it.
That some predictions and sources from Google say that the victory for Man City is very large, almost 75% draw 19% and victory for Man United is only 6%, all of that suddenly turned around when Man United created a goal to equalize the score, and sure enough at the end of the match Man United was able to turn things around against Man City, which some sources said they would come out as the winner, but the reality was all gone with the goal scored at the end of the match I know many are disappointed with Man City with a drastic decline in performance that makes many observers wonder about Man City this season, this is not a matter of improving or not from both of them but there was a lucky goal created by Amad Diallo in the 90th minute that this goal was a painful goal for Man City supporters for the first time. At their best City are hard to beat at home and if United are on improvement then that would be a good thing but I still doubt it.
Newcastle United usually look to be strong at home, but I didn't expect them to score against Leicester, especially since they recently recruited a new manager. Newcastle took advantage of playing at home to bring down Leicester City, scoring four goals. Van Nistelrooy has only won one game since taking over as Leicester City manager. Do we believe that the manager is the just issue for Leicester City this season? I am not sure because Rud Van Nistelrooy has been appointed and is still unable to endure the pressure of his opponents. They went down to 17th place after losing to Newcastle.
Everyone is talking about United beating City at the Etihad Stadium, I didn't watch the game but I don't think it was just United being brilliant but there was a factor of City being on the decline.
At their best City are hard to beat at home and if United are on improvement then that would be a good thing but I still doubt it.
At their best City are hard to beat at home and if United are on improvement then that would be a good thing but I still doubt it.
For the first half yeah. Manchester City were the better side looking for goals and scored too. However the second half, hell no!
Manchester United were the much better side. Honestly I believe this was a deserved win as well. Because Guardiola's team were so desperate. They seemed like they were only trying to secure the 1-0 score that's all. This isn't the Manchester City we normally watch.Therefore yeah kinda their inconsistent performance was also a big help. But I will really give Amorim that about beating Guardiola twice in only around a month with Sporting and Manchester United.
Newcastle managed to defeat Leicester at home. After 4 weeks without a win, Newcastle scored 4 goals against out of form Leicester. Leicester didn't create many chances in the match, while Newcastle dominated the game. Newcastle had 27 shots and could have scored more.
Newcastle United usually look to be strong at home, but I didn't expect them to score against Leicester, especially since they recently recruited a new manager. Newcastle took advantage of playing at home to bring down Leicester City, scoring four goals. Van Nistelrooy has only won one game since taking over as Leicester City manager. Do we believe that the manager is the just issue for Leicester City this season? I am not sure because Rud Van Nistelrooy has been appointed and is still unable to endure the pressure of his opponents. They went down to 17th place after losing to Newcastle.
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Ipswich managed to defeat their relegation rivals away from home. Wolverhampton should have won this game but they were defeated at home and Ipswich took advantage to move ahead of them.
Honestly, I don't think Wolverhampton will make it out of the relegation zone this season. This isn't the Wolves I saw the previous season, is their performance being affected by Neto's departure, the player they sold to Chelsea this season? They appear to be a side that has never faced Premier League difficulties before, they were unable to withstand the team that they are battling to stay out of the relegation zone. Ipswich earned their second victory of the season since getting promoted to the Premier League after they defeated Wolverhampton at their own home.
Everyone is talking about United beating City at the Etihad Stadium, I didn't watch the game but I don't think it was just United being brilliant but there was a factor of City being on the decline.
At their best City are hard to beat at home and if United are on improvement then that would be a good thing but I still doubt it.
Well a lot of people will talk about Manchester United winning last night, it's more surprising that Amorin managed to beat Pep Guardiola twice when he was at Sporting CB and it wasn't too long ago that another Premier League win away from home was a compliment to Amorin.At their best City are hard to beat at home and if United are on improvement then that would be a good thing but I still doubt it.
Even if there are other factors where Manchester City are in decline but 2 goals in 2 minutes is something great for United especially Ama Diallo's contribution is quite good, he's a bright young player.
I think there will be a manager change in City soon.
Because it seems like Pep will not be able to find a solution to this bad situation.
Today's match against United was a turning point. They led the match for a long time, but in the last 7-8 minutes United won the match and said "Manchester, Red", just like the old times.
Maybe it would have been acceptable if it had been the first defeat, but City could not find a solution to this decline.
Championship is not possible this year.
Success in the Champions League cannot be achieved with this psychology.
Pep Guardiola is the most successful manager in the history of Manchester City as a club and considering his achievements with the club in the last 8 years, I don't think the club management will want to repay him by sacking him in this difficult time of his career. In his entire managerial career, the Spanish manager have never been sacked but if his current employers aren't patient enough, he might be receiving his first sack letter as manager.Because it seems like Pep will not be able to find a solution to this bad situation.
Today's match against United was a turning point. They led the match for a long time, but in the last 7-8 minutes United won the match and said "Manchester, Red", just like the old times.
Maybe it would have been acceptable if it had been the first defeat, but City could not find a solution to this decline.
Championship is not possible this year.
Success in the Champions League cannot be achieved with this psychology.
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