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Quote from: RockBell on January 17, 2025, 05:34:23 PM

When the seasons started everyone thought that Manchester city are going to be the winners this season and the expectations were high and the outcome everyone is seen now is somthing that we all know that it can happen to anyone but the way Manchester city is acting as if they will be able to dominate the premier league for ever but look at exactly what is happening now, no body would have thought that they will find there self in this condition.

And pep is an excellent man but the result is getting this period might not be encouraging and the club that is list expected that's now leading no on expected Liverpool to lead and even arsenal there is nothing left for them this season, and true thay there is no need to rush but when there is need to rush then it will not be a bad if it's going to be something very important. And how better you get matters a lot and there is need that we learn from our mistakes.

On many occasions I have said that Liverpool are going to win this PL right now, but it is because I believe in the consistency that they always show. This time I know that there are many games left, but they are not going to throw Away the effort they have made. For me, the way they are doing, they are doing well, and the team that has the most potential to catch up with them is Arsenal, therefore they are the team that has the best chance. They showed it two seasons ago when Klopp was there, Liverpool could not keep up. Even so, I would not trust City even if they are doing badly, Pep is like a magician , he can make the difference at any moment.

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Quote from: Palakka on January 17, 2025, 01:57:49 PM

Liverpool has become the favourite team to win the Premier League, but unlike you, I actually see that the competitive competition will still occur until the end of the season in determining the championship, so even though Liverpool is currently leading but cannot be sure they will be championship because all possibilities can still happen in the remaining 18 matches they have.

Yes, it is a fact that Liverpool has a fairly wide advantage over the other teams, however now things tend to continue to look in Liverpool's favour, and they now have more experience because they are in the lead, I am sure that they will not let that first place be taken away from them, at least not so easily, for me Man City is still somewhat dangerous, it is a team that at any moment can win everything in a row and that is something that they have accustomed us to do in the PL.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on January 17, 2025, 08:41:45 AM

I tend to love the second goal more. Amad Diallo and Erisken had a good ball understanding. How Erisken did the proper calculations to release the ball back to Diallo at the right and in the right position, this showed big height of team work and good communication without any form of selfish game.

For their game against Brighton I know for sure it will be more demanding appearance but Amorim has to work on his team confidence such that they first believe In themselves and understand themselves as a team. I believe this approach should earn them a point or more of they can understand themselves.

Looking at how they defeated Arsenal, and they now defeated Southampton sort of easily, we could see that they are on a roll and they would have some confidence without a doubt. They should be able to beat Brighton as well, they have few more days to relax and rest, so they should be able to get a win here.

Obviously after that many games, the players are probably tired, I do not know if they had any training or whatever during this period, but if I was Amorim, I would just let the players be at home and tell them to just rest all day at home until Brighton game, not even joking. Game on 12th, game on 16th, game on 19th, game on 23rd, game on 26th, and game on 30th. Those are the games they have/had, and that's really pretty tiring and fatigue could become a huge issue for them if they do not rest properly. If they keep training between games too? That could cause a lot of injuries.

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I think Manchester City fans should be happy with the news that their attacking midfielder has decided to stay with the squad.

It seems that the young player currently chooses to stay at Manchester City for a fairly long period of time, I think maybe it's because he already feels comfortable in this squad until his decision is to sign his new contract to stay. He even said that he hopes to spend more time with this big team.

With Pep himself he feels happy because Halaand is on his team to stay, Actually I myself don't see that this attacking player contributes greatly to his squad sometimes I think this one player is just an extra, but for his current decision he should be able to be better than before and make Pep trust him more.

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Quote from: Docnaster on January 17, 2025, 05:43:21 PM

If you say that a draw at home against Brentford was a fair result for Manchester City, then that I think goes a long way to explain how far they've lost their form especially in the last four months. Manchester City I thought would've easily won that game after they went 2:0 up through Phil Foden goals but because of their lackluster, they ended up drawing that game. Poor result for the Citizens if you ask me. I don't think they have any reason to be excused for such performance. Pep Guardiola isn't doing enough to improve his team's performance but hopefully, the arrival of the three new signings will help him get back to winning ways.

Yes, I also agree with you, indeed as a top club, Man City has performed poorly this season and they should not only be able to optimize the draw when playing against an average club, but regardless of all that, at least Man City can still get 1 point in that match rather than having to swallow a defeat that makes them even more frustrated with their poor results in the last 2 months and the arrival of new players this winter is expected to restore Man City's performance as before, I still believe in Pep Guardiola's abilities.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on January 17, 2025, 04:55:51 PM

Not quite. In a draw, they still lose two points and to put this into perspective, it feels like it was a loss to them. Imagine you as a big team leading by 2 goals and then ending up blowing away the lead in the last few minutes of the game to a supposedly weaker team.

If only the other teams were inconsistent and Man City were consistent this time round, maybe they would have a chance, but right now as things look like. Manchester City is done.

This isn't the first time they've dropped points from a comfortable lead; it's happened several times this season, and the defense has been a complete disaster. Now I get why they're already in the market, attempting to figure out their defense while simultaneously dealing with the Kyle Walker problem.

If they can at least get some good defenders, they may be able to compete or close some gaps.

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Quote from: Docnaster on January 17, 2025, 05:43:21 PM

If you say that a draw at home against Brentford was a fair result for Manchester City, then that I think goes a long way to explain how far they've lost their form especially in the last four months. Manchester City I thought would've easily won that game after they went 2:0 up through Phil Foden goals but because of their lackluster, they ended up drawing that game. Poor result for the Citizens if you ask me. I don't think they have any reason to be excused for such performance. Pep Guardiola isn't doing enough to improve his team's performance but hopefully, the arrival of the three new signings will help him get back to winning ways.

Yes, new players like Abdukodir Khusanov, Vitor Reis, and Andrea Cambiaso will improve Manchester City's shortcomings. They are great on the front because they were able to create 2 goals with a collaborative team between midfielder and attacker, but when we talk about defense, that club is very weak since Rodri's injury. the arrival of the 3 players will patch up the deficiencies of the defender. But, I am not sure it will be effective since they still need a player like Rodri. Pep still needs a type of player like this to implement his strategy like before. not only improve the defender.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on January 17, 2025, 04:55:51 PM

Quote from: reefsea on January 16, 2025, 05:16:13 PM

Indeed, if you look at Manchester City's performance, of course they have not found their best form, but a draw is better than losing points. For me, Manchester City is out of the title race this season because they are quite far behind Liverpool and maybe their target is only to end the season in the top 4. But if other teams are not consistent, of course it opens up opportunities for Manchester City, but it seems like it will be difficult to happen.

If you say that a draw at home against Brentford was a fair result for Manchester City, then that I think goes a long way to explain how far they've lost their form especially in the last four months. Manchester City I thought would've easily won that game after they went 2:0 up through Phil Foden goals but because of their lackluster, they ended up drawing that game. Poor result for the Citizens if you ask me. I don't think they have any reason to be excused for such performance. Pep Guardiola isn't doing enough to improve his team's performance but hopefully, the arrival of the three new signings will help him get back to winning ways.

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There were some rumours floating around about Erling Haaland wanting to leave Man City and some media were speculating he might leave during the winter transfer window, some were mentioning interest from Barcelona and other clubs. Well, that won't happen. Haaland just confirmed he's to stay in Man City by signing a new contract. And it's not just a typical contract but one that ties him to the club for another decade (9.5 years to be precise) which is unprecedented in the Premier League.
This shows that both parties, Haaland and the club have a lot of trust and confidence in each other.
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https://www.mancity.com/news/mens/erling-haaland-10-year-manchester-city-contract-63872694
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c0k55nyren2o

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on January 17, 2025, 03:01:14 PM

It's a fact, things are like that, and thinking about previous seasons, we can see how City in some way came close to winning a Premier League, but at the moment I see them far from doing something like that, because they are in a very bad way, but this is not something that I am condemning them for, they can get out of this easily, Pep is very good and he always has to find a way to do it, so it is likely that we will see an improvement and I hope so, for me Arsenal is another team that has many possibilities of doing well, I think all that can happen, what you say is true, there is no need to rush into saying who will win the Premier League, many things can happen.

When the seasons started everyone thought that Manchester city are going to be the winners this season and the expectations were high and the outcome everyone is seen now is somthing that we all know that it can happen to anyone but the way Manchester city is acting as if they will be able to dominate the premier league for ever but look at exactly what is happening now, no body would have thought that they will find there self in this condition.

And pep is an excellent man but the result is getting this period might not be encouraging and the club that is list expected that's now leading no on expected Liverpool to lead and even arsenal there is nothing left for them this season, and true thay there is no need to rush but when there is need to rush then it will not be a bad if it's going to be something very important. And how better you get matters a lot and there is need that we learn from our mistakes.

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Quote from: Altryist on January 17, 2025, 02:12:33 PM

Manchester United need any wins, but they lost most of the match to the underdog on their home field, this is not the best indicator. For the match with Brighton, you have good reason to be worried, I think that Manchester United will not be able to win this match, at best it will be a draw.
Rashford was not in the application for this match again, it looks like everything is heading towards the fact that he will leave the team, I saw the same thing when ten Hag joined the team and Ronaldo missed games, I think that Rashford simply does not want to work with Amorim.

Don't compare the Erik ten Hag- Cristiano Ronaldo situation with that of Ruben Amorim and Marcus Rashford. Infact, you should know better that they're not even having no issues, Marcus Rashford has been that player every manager since the time of Louis van Gaal has talked about. He should be amongst the first set of player leaving the club because I have seen it clearly, he has no such plans to play for Manchester United no more. I will agree with the game against Brighton, but maybe Manchester United might pull up with a late winner, who know? Marcus Rashford is a selfish lad who care all about himself. I

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Quote from: reefsea on January 16, 2025, 05:16:13 PM

Indeed, if you look at Manchester City's performance, of course they have not found their best form, but a draw is better than losing points. For me, Manchester City is out of the title race this season because they are quite far behind Liverpool and maybe their target is only to end the season in the top 4. But if other teams are not consistent, of course it opens up opportunities for Manchester City, but it seems like it will be difficult to happen.

Not quite. In a draw, they still lose two points and to put this into perspective, it feels like it was a loss to them. Imagine you as a big team leading by 2 goals and then ending up blowing away the lead in the last few minutes of the game to a supposedly weaker team.

If only the other teams were inconsistent and Man City were consistent this time round, maybe they would have a chance, but right now as things look like. Manchester City is done.

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Quote from: tusandii on January 16, 2025, 09:24:10 PM

Liverpool does look consistent and strong this season but because the Premier League journey is still very long so it is still uncertain about the EPL champion and there are still possibilities that can happen whether Liverpool experiences a setback or something else, but if the EPL journey is almost over and Liverpool is ahead by many points from the team below it, it can be said that Liverpool will win the title this season. The EPL competition is still very tight and Liverpool's points difference cannot be said to be safe.

It's a fact, things are like that, and thinking about previous seasons, we can see how City in some way came close to winning a Premier League, but at the moment I see them far from doing something like that, because they are in a very bad way, but this is not something that I am condemning them for, they can get out of this easily, Pep is very good and he always has to find a way to do it, so it is likely that we will see an improvement and I hope so, for me Arsenal is another team that has many possibilities of doing well, I think all that can happen, what you say is true, there is no need to rush into saying who will win the Premier League, many things can happen.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on January 17, 2025, 04:46:27 AM

Manchester United needed this win so bad honestly. Diallo was the hero of the game for sure with a lovely hat-trick.

However they had huge problems on making this comeback at the same time. All of their goals came really late. Nearly they could have lost to the last placed team Southampton. There is still a huge problem obviously. They shouldn't be in need of one player to step forward and save the day all the time. The teamwork should be much better than this.

I already have doubts about their Brighton game honestly. Sad

I wouldn't bet on the Red Devils there. Even against Southampton I got very uncomfortable while following it. I just wanted to add it to raise the total odds a little that's all. I hate losing from low odds.

Manchester United need any wins, but they lost most of the match to the underdog on their home field, this is not the best indicator. For the match with Brighton, you have good reason to be worried, I think that Manchester United will not be able to win this match, at best it will be a draw.
Rashford was not in the application for this match again, it looks like everything is heading towards the fact that he will leave the team, I saw the same thing when ten Hag joined the team and Ronaldo missed games, I think that Rashford simply does not want to work with Amorim.

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Quote from: hahay on January 17, 2025, 10:34:27 AM

The match between Newcastle vs Bournemouth later, seems like it will be an interesting match and it might be difficult to determine the winning team in this match. Because after all, even though Newcastle is currently in fourth position and Bournemouth is in eighth position, but they only have a gap of four points. And also, Bournemouth has nine last matches unbeaten in the Premier League and also, Newcastle who has a good trend lately certainly makes Newcastle and Bournemouth at this moment can be assumed to have the same quality and level. Moreover, their head to head record also seems to have more frequent draws, so for their match tomorrow it might also end in a draw or maybe Newcastle will still manage to get three points, who knows.

Yes definitely the match between Newcastle and Bournemouth will surely be an interesting fixtures. Both club has been in decent form in the premier League this season and are both currently in a good position and are fighting for an European competition next season. I think Newcastle will have an advantage over Bournemouth in this encounter given to Newcastle blistering attack and lethal striker Alexander Isak make Newcastle almost unstoppable and given to the match will be played in Newcastle turf am sure they will be able to over muscle Bournemouth in this encounter.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on January 16, 2025, 04:58:06 PM

Quote from: Palakka on January 15, 2025, 12:10:07 PM

Nottingham forest is the most difficult opponent faced by Liverpool this season, not only because of yesterday's draw, but precisely in the first meeting of the two teams this season, they also got their first defeat from Nottingham and that it was the only defeat obtained by Liverpool so far in the English league.
Manchester city, still extending their negative trend this season although in their last 3 matches they were able to win, their poor consistency and defence has made them slump and out of the championship path, the league journey is still long, although Liverpool is quite comfortable at the top of the standings but I think all possibilities can still happen later.

For me, the PL has clearly opened up a lot, and there is a clear winner, which is Liverpool, the team that I thought would continue to compete but whose effectiveness has decreased a little has been Arsenal, however, now another team that almost no one names but that is playing a role that I no longer understand is MU, until now they have not been able to have good consistency and this delays everything, for me one of the things they should do is change their mentality, the coach has already implemented his strategy and it seems that he is not going to change it, so this is complicated, and City is doing very badly.

Liverpool has become the favourite team to win the Premier League, but unlike you, I actually see that the competitive competition will still occur until the end of the season in determining the championship, so even though Liverpool is currently leading but cannot be sure they will be championship because all possibilities can still happen in the remaining 18 matches they have.

If talk about other teams, precisely Manchester duo is also very confusing for me , especially Manchester United, which every season strengthens their squad but precisely they are getting weaker over the seasons, as well with manchester city, I think, it is very strange what happened to them this season after the successive victories they achieved in the league previously, because only losing one brick (rodri) the building (manchester city) which has been solid and strong so far can be destroyed (slump) unexpectedly this season Grin

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Quote from: Velvet78 on January 17, 2025, 12:27:02 PM

Newcastle are really killing it! Grin

They have been on a great run for many weeks and their game up next is against Bournemouth home tomorrow. I think the winning streak will be maintained by them.

Chelsea have been overtaken by them in the standings. Something is going on really wrong for them. I don't remember the last time they won. It has been more than 5 weeks I assume. They have a squad with capable young players including a star like Palmer.

Manchester City are still having hard days. The defending is still in poor shape like the Brentford game example. Sad

The title race is likely to go between Liverpool - Arsenal for the rest of the season.

Let's be more specific here. LFC, Nottingham Forest, and Arsenal for the title race. Chelsea, Newcastle and City for the UCL spots.

We have two competitions are happening at the same time.

There will be so many drama to come, and i like that. Seeing any clubs are getting even more serious in achieving what their target makes me think there will be huge pressure at the late season.

The gap between any clubs are no that big except Arsenal to Liverpool.

The pressure during the late season is gonna prove which club deserve a spot as a winner and UCL.

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Newcastle are really killing it! Grin

They have been on a great run for many weeks and their game up next is against Bournemouth home tomorrow. I think the winning streak will be maintained by them.

Chelsea have been overtaken by them in the standings. Something is going on really wrong for them. I don't remember the last time they won. It has been more than 5 weeks I assume. They have a squad with capable young players including a star like Palmer.

Manchester City are still having hard days. The defending is still in poor shape like the Brentford game example. Sad

The title race is likely to go between Liverpool - Arsenal for the rest of the season.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on January 17, 2025, 04:46:27 AM

Manchester United needed this win so bad honestly. Diallo was the hero of the game for sure with a lovely hat-trick.

However they had huge problems on making this comeback at the same time. All of their goals came really late. Nearly they could have lost to the last placed team Southampton. There is still a huge problem obviously. They shouldn't be in need of one player to step forward and save the day all the time. The teamwork should be much better than this.

I already have doubts about their Brighton game honestly. Sad

I wouldn't bet on the Red Devils there. Even against Southampton I got very uncomfortable while following it. I just wanted to add it to raise the total odds a little that's all. I hate losing from low odds.

Manchester United won the game because they were the favorite to win the match and the match was won by a single player which is Amad Dialo, Amad Dialo always made sure he helped Manchester United when the team needed him, if we look at all the matches Manchester United won against big teams like Manchester City, Liverpool and Arsenal Amad Dialo is the one that show up in the match and score goals for the team, Yesterday match against Southampton Manchester United players did not play well in the match and they also miss some chances.

If any Manchester United fans see Erik Ten Hag by mistake they should make sure they arrest him Grin

, that man shows all the football fans that Amad Dialo is not better than Rashford, Erik Ten Hag benches Amad Dialo in matches because he prefers Rashford and Antony, Erik Ten Hag is the reason why some players left Manchester United and all the players that leave Manchester United are having a good performance in their current team now, how to wish Ruben Amorim has those players like Sancho, Greenwood and other that leave the team Manchester United will be in another level now.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on January 17, 2025, 04:46:27 AM

Manchester United needed this win so bad honestly. Diallo was the hero of the game for sure with a lovely hat-trick.

However they had huge problems on making this comeback at the same time. All of their goals came really late. Nearly they could have lost to the last placed team Southampton. There is still a huge problem obviously. They shouldn't be in need of one player to step forward and save the day all the time. The teamwork should be much better than this.

I already have doubts about their Brighton game honestly. Sad

I wouldn't bet on the Red Devils there. Even against Southampton I got very uncomfortable while following it. I just wanted to add it to raise the total odds a little that's all. I hate losing from low odds.

Manchester United improved their record but then got worse but have won this match and won the previous one. Manchester United can also win the next match if they play with hard work and good performance, they will win with their good honesty. That's why their record was bad, if they didn't play badly in it, they wouldn't have taken time to get stronger, but they played well and scored 3 goals and the opposition team scored 1 goal and won the match by 2 goals. Manchester United must not be weak now because if they go down now they will not be successful again. This match will be difficult, so it will be a bit difficult to bet on this match, but we have to think carefully and bet in it, which will benefit us and the opposing team will also win the match and increase their points.

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