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Quote from: JeffBrad12 on January 10, 2025, 01:42:10 AM

Quote from: tusandii on January 09, 2025, 11:50:02 PM

I don't understand why West Ham appointed a manager who has a bad record in previous EPL coaching (when he was Brighton and Chelsea manager) West Ham should have appointed a manager who has a good record to restore their performance if they appointed a manager who is not much different why change managers when currently West Ham is really in a worse condition than last season and I doubt Graham Potter can handle a club that is in a slump.

He's good at Brighton, but flop in Chelsea. He has good stats when managing medium tier club, and why are you doubting it? He has also experience in the Premier League. I think it's reasonable to believe Potter will deliver for Westham.

Are you thinking Westham to repeat the same mistake to gamble with the coach with no PL experience? They have realized they have to found someone who can fit them well, and Potter is the answer.

How can you say Graham Potter is good at Brighton? when you see how he was as Brighton manager during the 2019-2022 season you will not say he is good at Brighton because the club still looks like an ordinary club and does not look impressive in his first 2 seasons Brighton finished in poor rankings and in his last season Brighton only managed to finish in the top 10, if West Ham wants a big change at least they should recruit a good manager if he appoints a manager who can only show average performance there is nothing to be proud of.

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Quote from: junder on January 11, 2025, 01:41:56 AM

Lately, this Manchester City midfielder has often been hit by injuries which may have reduced his performance so that it also affects the performance of his current squad. In addition, reportedly his contract in the City squad is already visible, and his answer when asked about this problem was quite surprising because he himself did not care about it, only that he focused on the field and his matches to be better than before.

In addition, Manchester City is reportedly starting to look for a successor or replacement for the role of their midfielder, and one of the players they are targeting is Florian Wirtz from Bayer Leverkusen, whether this will be better or not but what is certain is that their squad must be able to be better and recover from their slump by restoring their trust in their fans.

The recent injuries De Bruyne suffered from have really affected him deeply. He can't perform the same like in the old days. He just started to be able to play for 90 minutes as well. I feel like this is really his last season at Manchester City. Sad

Indeed, Guardiola has already started looking for his alternative. He wants to go big with the signing too of course. Wirtz and Musiala are currently the most rumoured players. Both of the players are very talented youngsters.

Managing to sign one of them won't be easy though but it would be a huge addition to the squad. Real Madrid will probably be in for Wirtz. For Musiala, I have heard he is close to extending his contract with Bayern Munich. This situation can make things really difficult for Guardiola.

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Quote from: samuraijin on January 10, 2025, 09:07:17 PM

Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on January 10, 2025, 12:56:23 PM

As for Chelsea... I'm really disappointed with them lately. Sad

They couldn't win for 4 weeks straight. What's happening? I hope to see a win against Bournemouth in their next game. I want to see them in the Champions League finally.

Actually, a draw is enough for Chelsea to avoid defeat, this is a matter of time, whenever it can change all the games, no one is disappointed because so far it has been much more than enough for Chelsea to be in 4th position, it is not easy, because we know that in the last few years they have always had difficulty being in the middle of the standings which is far from the European Cup Zone, whatever the results Chelsea get, it is a good result for Chelsea's development this season.

Actually if someone will say Chelsea is terribly bad now I wonder how loud they would be two seasons ago, though I understand it was because of how bad their last four matches was that made LuckyGuyI say that and he is right for that because four match is a lot for a team not to win any, but if they loss such four matches again there would be no means for them on this upcoming champions League, however FA Cup Round 3 has covered all today's matches and Chelsea will start with Morecambe but Chelsea will win because Morecambe is coming from a low division league.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on January 10, 2025, 12:56:23 PM

There are still 4 more days for Week 21 games to begin. The interval for the next games has been quite long because of EFL Cup and FA Cup games meanwhile also.

I see Manchester City having an away game vs Brentford. After winning 2 games in a row Guardiola's club look stronger. I liked their effort in the last one too. I guess I will seriously think of adding their win into my parlay after a while. Grin

As for Chelsea... I'm really disappointed with them lately. Sad

They couldn't win for 4 weeks straight. What's happening? I hope to see a win against Bournemouth in their next game. I want to see them in the Champions League finally.

Yes, definitely it's such a long break given to the EFL Cup and FA Cup games played in between. Although the match will be tough I don't think Brentford will be able to cause an upset against Manchester City given to the fact that Manchester City.

I’m not disappointed about Chelsea's performance so far in the EPL, I am even surprised to see them among teams in the top half of the table. Even though they might have experienced some decline in performance of late, I think Chelsea will be able to come out with all three points regardless at home.

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Quote from: Litzki1990 on January 10, 2025, 10:06:33 PM

De Bruyne was once Manchester City's most reliable attacking midfielder and contributed well to the entire team's performance when he was caught. However, his performance has been adversely affected due to the fact that he has been out of the field due to injury for a long time and has been injured again after being injury-free. Apart from injuries, the big problem for him now is his age, as he has advanced in age, we don't see the same pace from him as we used to. If De Bruyne could have performed like before, Manchester City's situation would certainly not be so bad. De Bruyne was excellent in midfield alone when caught and he created balls to attack but we don't see that kind of attack from him now. Because of his performance, we can say that his career in Europe will end soon.

Lately, this Manchester City midfielder has often been hit by injuries which may have reduced his performance so that it also affects the performance of his current squad. In addition, reportedly his contract in the City squad is already visible, and his answer when asked about this problem was quite surprising because he himself did not care about it, only that he focused on the field and his matches to be better than before.

In addition, Manchester City is reportedly starting to look for a successor or replacement for the role of their midfielder, and one of the players they are targeting is Florian Wirtz from Bayer Leverkusen, whether this will be better or not but what is certain is that their squad must be able to be better and recover from their slump by restoring their trust in their fans.

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Quote from: samuraijin on January 10, 2025, 09:07:17 PM

Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on January 10, 2025, 12:56:23 PM

As for Chelsea... I'm really disappointed with them lately. Sad

They couldn't win for 4 weeks straight. What's happening? I hope to see a win against Bournemouth in their next game. I want to see them in the Champions League finally.

Actually, a draw is enough for Chelsea to avoid defeat, this is a matter of time, whenever it can change all the games, no one is disappointed because so far it has been much more than enough for Chelsea to be in 4th position, it is not easy, because we know that in the last few years they have always had difficulty being in the middle of the standings which is far from the European Cup Zone, whatever the results Chelsea get, it is a good result for Chelsea's development this season.

This is my team Chelsea
Can we stay consistent? I doubt.
But when we finally get to find the rhythm for consistency then people will see why we are among the nest in England. If Enzo Maresca can not find a way to make us more consistent, with time he will be axed just like every other good coaches who has managed the team.
Against Bournemouth we may get a win if we can play well and take our chances and avoiding defensive lapses which has been a main issue for us.

Expect Enzo Maresca becomes serious about getting better defence, we will continue to suffer in an ironic way of defensive errors, since Preseason I have been speaking of our defence being bad and since Fofana is injured it will even become more difficult.

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Quote from: samuraijin on January 10, 2025, 09:07:17 PM

Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on January 10, 2025, 12:56:23 PM

As for Chelsea... I'm really disappointed with them lately. Sad

They couldn't win for 4 weeks straight. What's happening? I hope to see a win against Bournemouth in their next game. I want to see them in the Champions League finally.

Actually, a draw is enough for Chelsea to avoid defeat, this is a matter of time, whenever it can change all the games, no one is disappointed because so far it has been much more than enough for Chelsea to be in 4th position, it is not easy, because we know that in the last few years they have always had difficulty being in the middle of the standings which is far from the European Cup Zone, whatever the results Chelsea get, it is a good result for Chelsea's development this season.

It is hard to believe that in the last 4 games they have struggled against mediocre teams after having a great week with consecutive wins. Honestly this result is better than last season. With Enzo Maresca Chelsea has managed to become one of the teams in the top ranks of the EPL. Last season they got 11 defeats but this season they have only got 4 defeats after the first half of the season. As a fan with their current performance of course we expect them to make it into the Champions League zone next season. As I remember they have not played in the UCL for 2 seasons. This season is an opportunity for them to compete again in the most prestigious league in Europe.

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Quote from: JeffBrad12 on January 10, 2025, 01:42:10 AM

Quote from: tusandii on January 09, 2025, 11:50:02 PM

I don't understand why West Ham appointed a manager who has a bad record in previous EPL coaching (when he was Brighton and Chelsea manager) West Ham should have appointed a manager who has a good record to restore their performance if they appointed a manager who is not much different why change managers when currently West Ham is really in a worse condition than last season and I doubt Graham Potter can handle a club that is in a slump.

He's good at Brighton, but flop in Chelsea. He has good stats when managing medium tier club, and why are you doubting it? He has also experience in the Premier League. I think it's reasonable to believe Potter will deliver for Westham.

Are you thinking Westham to repeat the same mistake to gamble with the coach with no PL experience? They have realized they have to found someone who can fit them well, and Potter is the answer.

I just checked in case if I remembered it wrong, he averaged 1.28 points at Brighton. That is not good at all, I am not saying he should have done 2.50 or something, it's Brighton, they were worse than even right now, so it's normal to have bad record, but at least 1.50+ is required to say it would have been good, it's really a bad period for Brighton as well and dude was sacked, why would they fire a manager who was good.

And obviously he was terrible as Chelsea manager as well, and you may ask if he was not good at Brighton, then why would Chelsea get him? Well, simply because of exact same reason why West Ham are getting him now, we have no idea. In the end, managers are limited, they are not as common as players, you have at least 11 players, with bunch of subs, whereas you have just one manager, so teams just want to hire managers who already have experience at good levels.

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Quote from: samuraijin on January 10, 2025, 09:07:17 PM

Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on January 10, 2025, 12:56:23 PM

As for Chelsea... I'm really disappointed with them lately. Sad

They couldn't win for 4 weeks straight. What's happening? I hope to see a win against Bournemouth in their next game. I want to see them in the Champions League finally.

Actually, a draw is enough for Chelsea to avoid defeat, this is a matter of time, whenever it can change all the games, no one is disappointed because so far it has been much more than enough for Chelsea to be in 4th position, it is not easy, because we know that in the last few years they have always had difficulty being in the middle of the standings which is far from the European Cup Zone, whatever the results Chelsea get, it is a good result for Chelsea's development this season.

Draw or Lose. It's all matters.

Chelsea has to qualify for the UCL, and winning any games is a must to ensure they can keep their UCL spot. Really disappointed how they earned only 2 points from 4 games. That's unbelievabel how they went down so hard like this.

Things are worsening after Maresca once again doing major rotation to his squad. They will no longer placed at the 4 if they still play like shite.

If they keep get another bad result, it'll destroy their mentality, which is impacting their performance in long run.

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Quote from: CLS63 on January 09, 2025, 04:01:04 PM

Quote from: Pokapoka124 on January 09, 2025, 03:40:17 PM

Yes you are right. Without Kevin de Bruyne in the squad, Manchester City's performance has deteriorated. His absence impacts the team's creativity and fluidity in midfield as he is pivotal in orchestrating attacks and providing crucial passes. Without Kevin de Bryune, there is an obvious difference in Manchester City’s attack.

De Bruyne was injured for a long time and he newly started to play for long amount of time in the Premier League. But he is getting old and it is normal to see his performance getting worse in time. Maybe you can give Salah as an example against it this season. However not every big player at his age is showing that big performance in those times as well. De Bruyne is going to leave Manchester City this summer if he doesn't get a contract extension soon. I think his next team might be in Saudi Arabia as they would be eager to bring a star like him.

De Bruyne was once Manchester City's most reliable attacking midfielder and contributed well to the entire team's performance when he was caught. However, his performance has been adversely affected due to the fact that he has been out of the field due to injury for a long time and has been injured again after being injury-free. Apart from injuries, the big problem for him now is his age, as he has advanced in age, we don't see the same pace from him as we used to. If De Bruyne could have performed like before, Manchester City's situation would certainly not be so bad. De Bruyne was excellent in midfield alone when caught and he created balls to attack but we don't see that kind of attack from him now. Because of his performance, we can say that his career in Europe will end soon.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on January 10, 2025, 12:56:23 PM

As for Chelsea... I'm really disappointed with them lately. Sad

They couldn't win for 4 weeks straight. What's happening? I hope to see a win against Bournemouth in their next game. I want to see them in the Champions League finally.

Actually, a draw is enough for Chelsea to avoid defeat, this is a matter of time, whenever it can change all the games, no one is disappointed because so far it has been much more than enough for Chelsea to be in 4th position, it is not easy, because we know that in the last few years they have always had difficulty being in the middle of the standings which is far from the European Cup Zone, whatever the results Chelsea get, it is a good result for Chelsea's development this season.

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Quote from: len01 on January 10, 2025, 07:56:37 PM

Quote from: hahay on January 10, 2025, 12:20:53 PM

Indeed, it is necessary to have a bolder decision if Amorim really has a plan to form a better team for Manchester United. Although the squad overhaul will spend a lot of budget, but if the results will be good, why not. Because to improve the team's performance in a hurry as is happening now, of course it will be difficult to get the results as expected. Therefore, if Manchester United really gives full support to Amorim, then next season we should see Manchester United with many new faces which of course are very much expected to give good results too.

Well, not only does it require a large budget but it also takes a long time to form a consistent squad if you really want to make a major overhaul of the Man United player line up. So when in the coming season we see many new players but have not gotten positive results, we also have to understand the condition. Because to unite the chemistry between the players takes a long time and also the coach needs to do many things to make Man United more stable. I will not expect more but just want to see Amorim do it all slowly to get more perfect results.

I think the same as you, for this season I myself do not want to demand much from Amorin I want him to get a lot of praise so that he is more confident to give his best, Amorin needs trust and I think we have to trust the process and also every decision he makes, Amorin has proven himself well at his old club so I think he has big thoughts I really hope for trust from management for him and give some players for him to be able to develop Man United again, currently no one can be blamed with these red devils except management and those big-headed players.

I am quite optimistic that Amorin is quite firm and does not show favoritism, players who do not want to run are invited to cooperate directly he gives sanctions that is quite satisfying for me Man United fans, and the same as you I quite trust Amorin's process even though it is not this season he needs time and also the players he expects.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on January 10, 2025, 12:56:23 PM

I see Manchester City having an away game vs Brentford. After winning 2 games in a row Guardiola's club look stronger. I liked their effort in the last one too. I guess I will seriously think of adding their win into my parlay after a while. Grin

Yes, Brentford is also not a good performance, They only won once in the last 5 games, but The city must be careful with Mbeumo and friends because they were able to defeat Southampton 0-5 at st Mary Stadium, this will be a threat for the city to do not careless with their defense because Brentford look begin to rise and discover their strategy. The city have to go through the previous match, they was able to defeat Brentford 2-1 on Etihad Stadium. Haaland create the brace, and all goals happen on 1st half, with this experience, Pep must focusing Haaland to repeat it again, and maybe he will apply the same scheme to repeat the win.

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Quote from: hahay on January 10, 2025, 12:20:53 PM

Indeed, it is necessary to have a bolder decision if Amorim really has a plan to form a better team for Manchester United. Although the squad overhaul will spend a lot of budget, but if the results will be good, why not. Because to improve the team's performance in a hurry as is happening now, of course it will be difficult to get the results as expected. Therefore, if Manchester United really gives full support to Amorim, then next season we should see Manchester United with many new faces which of course are very much expected to give good results too.

Well, not only does it require a large budget but it also takes a long time to form a consistent squad if you really want to make a major overhaul of the Man United player line up. So when in the coming season we see many new players but have not gotten positive results, we also have to understand the condition. Because to unite the chemistry between the players takes a long time and also the coach needs to do many things to make Man United more stable. I will not expect more but just want to see Amorim do it all slowly to get more perfect results.

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Quote from: bitgolden on January 10, 2025, 02:06:02 AM

Premier league is of course a very competitive league and we could of course see teams do differently and have some different results and all that but I am not sure if we are going to see anyone competing against Liverpool, that seems like it is not going to be that common and probably won't happen because it doesn't look like anyone else plays as well as they are playing right now. This is why I believe that Liverpool will be the eventual champions and said that before.

The Premier League is the most competitive among all Europe top divisions that it is also the most interesting league because of the tense in the league whereby it is always difficult to define a team that will win the trophy except when the league is about to come to an end. Liverpool last won the Premier League during the 2019/2020 season and since then they have been making attempts to win it again but they have been failing but for this season, they are very prepared and are not ready to give any other team chances to overtake them. Even Manchester City that could have been the strongest team to contend the title against Liverpool but they declined in performance along the way and gave Liverpool the free privilege they are enjoying now without feeling threatened. If Liverpool makes any mistakes and lose out the trophy this season, it will take them long to have this kind of opportunity in the future because more teams are beginning to grow up and becoming competitive while those traditional teams we know to be strong are already fallen apart.

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Quote from: aylabadia05 on January 10, 2025, 07:42:03 AM

Next season Manchester United will be different from previous seasons. I release this with myself as a Manchester United fan.
Amorim already knows what should be done to reshape Manchester United. We also welcome the rumors that several players who have filled the line up in the previous seasons will be released.

Marcus Rashford is not included in Amorim's plans. Antony is also not included including several other names.
This is a courage I think to rebuild the foundation of Manchester United.

Do you know where I gave up on your statement? When you said you are a fan of Manchester United. Grin

The truth is this, you can't say exactly when team are going to make a U turn, you don't know exactly when they start under performing and you don't know when they are about to outperform their past. Look at Chelsea, when Maresca came, even the fans didn't take him serious until they went to the top of the table and even up till now, there are some people that doesn't trust him.

If Amorim is giving time, he is going to transform that team and their performance but of course he need time. If really he has played with this set of players before now, many of them contract would have been tarminated for another club either by force loan or sold or you remain without career. I like how the season isn't ended yet but many players are already making moves for another club because they know the club is fine with them for now.

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Quote from: baeva on January 10, 2025, 04:13:25 PM

Not just a record-breaking one, it will be a real legendary comeback, which nobody believes in at the moment, because if you look at the situation adequately, they really have very little chance of even climbing to the second line, let alone winning. But in addition to the EPL they have the Champions League, in which not everything is lost and something can be tried, but with such a game of course and there they will not succeed. I hope they continue their winning streak after a few wins

I don't believe Manchester City can make it to the top of the league even if they get back their usual New Year form, but I believe they can make it to 2nd position. The difference between them and Arsenal who are in 2nd is 4 points and with the way Arsnal is becoming inconsistent, I don't think it's impossible for Manchester City to overtake them.

As for winning the league, Liverpool won't drop points enough for Manchester City or any other team to take over. The way I see it, Manchester City will definitely make it to the top 4, and they have a chance to overthrow all of Chelsea, Arsenal and Nottingham Forest if they pick their form back.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on January 09, 2025, 05:22:25 AM

Honestly I would be very okay with watching a title competition until the end of the season. Grin

Therefore seeing Liverpool stumbling isn't a problem to me. When it comes to how long they will keep it up, I'm also curious. In the end Arne Slot is in his first season in the Premier League managing a this big team for the first time in his manager career. As a young manager (46) at the same time, we all must be curious how quick he will handle it.

If you look at the points acquisition now, it actually won't be a problem if Liverpool lose their momentum especially if it happens only once or several times because in the end things like this will not bother them too much in terms of the standings but still in the end the situation when they stumble can change the momentum that occurs. We can see the example of Manchester City, which initially started from an unexpected mistake which in the end half of the season ended with a decline in performance due to loss of motivation considering they lost a lot of momentum in the matches they played.

Something like this can still happen to other big clubs including Liverpool so that in the end losing points in a match even though it won't be too much of a problem but it must still be minimized so that they get used to the confidence and momentum that is still maintained until the end of the season.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on January 10, 2025, 04:33:25 AM

Quote from: Alpha Marine on January 09, 2025, 03:39:14 PM

That's for you that's not a Liverpool fan. Grin

Every Liverpool fan will want the gap to be increased as much as possible. They will want them to run away with the league if possible because if they don't any little mistake can make them lose the league.
Liverpool is 6 points ahead with a game in hand, so i doubt they will bottle the league though. I don't think they will drop form so much that another team will overthrow them from the first position.

Yeah you got me there. Tongue

Probably Liverpool fans got a little worried after the last 2 results they got in the Premier League - EFL Cup combined. But like I said, only a little.

Because they don't need to be that sad about it as they still hold a big advantage in the league. Salah's huge performance must be enough to keep them confident.

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If it was Manchester City that was in the position of Arsenal and Liverpool was just 6 points ahead of them then I maybe that they can catch up with them, but Arsenal cant. In fact, I belive instead of Arsenal to catch up, Liverpool will extend the gap even further because Arsenal will drop more points.

Manchester City have it in them to catch up in that case really. I don't mean this season but normally I would agree. For this season, they must continue without point loss. Otherwise they wouldn't have any realistic chance. It depends on what the teams between will do meanwhile too though. It is like mission impossible. Grin

But if somehow Guardiola makes it to the title, I assume it would be a record-breaking comeback.

Not just a record-breaking one, it will be a real legendary comeback, which nobody believes in at the moment, because if you look at the situation adequately, they really have very little chance of even climbing to the second line, let alone winning. But in addition to the EPL they have the Champions League, in which not everything is lost and something can be tried, but with such a game of course and there they will not succeed. I hope they continue their winning streak after a few wins

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Quote from: aylabadia05 on January 10, 2025, 03:11:58 PM

It was a little confusing when Ruud van Nistelrooy became Manchester United's interim coach. At that time Manchester United had obtained the target as dreamed of by many fans and at that time Manchester United's management was looking for a permanent coach until finally the choice fell on Amorim. Of course when many expectations are expected of him, it is something natural.

Manchester United under Ruud Van Nistelrooy was a good short period of Manchester United team. I enjoyed watching his games as an interim manager where he managed 4 games and won 3 of the games while one was a draw. For me, that was a good performance acting in the capacity of a placeholder and preparing the minds of the players against Amorim. I think Leicester City was also smart enough to quickly get hold of Van Nistelrooy and his first match with the Leicester City was actually a won match against the West Ham United club on the 3rd of last month. Although since that first win, Nistelrooy have been finding it difficult to win more matches but I'm pretty much confident that he well this year when he's more balanced.

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