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Quote from: JeromeTash on January 11, 2025, 04:28:53 PM

Quote from: Woodie on January 11, 2025, 02:42:34 PM

I know it's not a Premier league weekend as we having FA Cup games..but it's nice to see Manchester City giving these small teams a real beating trying to think they will have a bite of the cake...but man this is a crazy scoreline by the citizens 8 nil and they still wanted to get more goals🎉😎..hope this is a start of a new beginning as the Premier league starts next weekend and they start the challenge to chase league leaders Liverpool!!

Not a chance... There's a huge gap between them and Liverpool. I do think they can mount any pressure on to them even if they were to perform consistently until the end of the season. I think Manchester City will lose so more Premier League games soon.

I don't know how to act, whether to be happy or maybe just normal because Salford is not a team with good quality and moreover Salford is also playing away. As a weak team that only plays in League Two, I think the victory is a natural result. Although perhaps, with the victory will provide better morale for improving Manchester City's performance in the Premier League and in the Champions League. But still, if it's about the competition in the Premier League and Champions League it will still be a tough competition, and an 8-0 victory like that I think is no guarantee that Manchester City will rise in the near future.

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Quote from: dezoel on January 12, 2025, 04:58:22 AM

I agree that West Ham definitely made a terrible decision, Graham Potter isn't a good one at all, and he should not be considered as someone who is going to end up being that great at all. West Ham fans are aware of it, I have checked the reddit topics there and nobody is too excited, most of them are seeing this as temporary band-aid and that is why I believe we are going to see how he will do but fans are not expecting anything more.

Graham Potter is not a promising manager considering his last career with Chelsea, but it is a matter of fit, maybe with West Ham he can find something different. He does not fit with the Chelsea players, and now is the time to prove once again whether a club like West Ham and its players can work together to cover each other's shortcomings to create perfection. There is no harm in giving him a chance, becoming a manager of a club in the middle of the season does not guarantee satisfactory results.

Things change and people become better and perfect over time that is if they are been given a chance to prove the can improve. The fact Potter had short comings in Chelsea doesn't mean He has lost it all when it comes to his managing career. Let's give him that chance at WestHam who knows he might be able to turn things around and prove the speculations of people wrong.

The season is already far spent and much shouldn't be expected of him this season but we should see signs of a great future ahead. If Potter can successfully navigate WestHam through the premier league this season with good records I believe his prestige as a manager will be restored.

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Moments ago, I read an Article that suggests current league leaders Liverpool can't still be caught by the clubs that are chasing them in the league standings and though some of the statistics I read there suggests that there's every possibility that Arne Slot's men can still be stopped from winning the English Premier League title this season and the fact that they have some difficult away games coming up, I strongly still do not believe that Liverpool might end the season with the English Premier League title.
I had to bring the discussion here and ask us what we make of the debate. Do you think the clubs behind Liverpool in the league standings can catch up with them? Let me read your thoughts.

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Quote from: Salahmu on January 11, 2025, 05:19:30 PM

I think Manchester City has gotten there highest goal today for all there entire match because apart from this there is no other match they scored 8 goals, i no that people will laugh a lot today because Salford was completely outweighed, actually this kind of club does not fit in premier League, however FA Cup has given MccAtee first hard trick, meanwhile Leicester City also hit a similar all time high of Manchester City but only stopping at the 6 goals and Queens Park rangers cancelled 2, Chelsea and Bournemouth 5 goals, actually the few premier League players has turned FA Cup red today.

You are absolutely right, and I'm amazed at how Manchester City scored 8 goals. Although Salford's record is somewhat better and stronger than Manchester City they still failed to score a goal and lost by 8 goals. This shows that Manchester City is improving itself, and if you look at their record now, the first 3 matches are seen together in the win list. Salford has only one draw and one loss in a few matches, and Manchester City has a lot of draws and a lot of losses, and despite winning 2 or 3 matches, those 8 goals are too many for a weak team. Defeated a strong team. Manchester City next match against Brentford who have the same record as Manchester City could give Manchester City another chance to win if they play as well as they did in the Salford match. Manchester City is working hard to improve itself and wants to prove to us that if they are weak, they can be strong if they work hard.

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I saw that. It's an easy game for Everton. I were not doubting them to win it. They fought against a team with far below quality than them. It's easy for them to win it. The difference in the quality owned by both of clubs is the reason here.

They made 5 goal attempts, and only 1 successfully converted into the goal. They also get additional goal came from penalty. Not good or bad performance from Everon.

In that he is right, for me without discrediting Peterborough United because they are not a strong team, nor as decisive, Everton are for me on another level, and it is as you say, as long as this team maintains this level and does not lower it they will be able to easily beat this team, of course the game was kind of disorganized, strange, very odd, but even so they managed to get the result, not in the way that many of us expected them to get it but I think they also had good luck and that is what is fundamental, a result and staying away from relegation.

Everton at least did it well. They're playing when the transition happened from Sean to the Moyes. It's a. common thing when they were not playing that good. For me, win is still a win no matter how bad and terrible their gameplay. They get win as the result from their hardwork, but i only doubt their gameplay may not work when they face a strong team in EPL.

They deserved appreciated despite their bad gameplay. I hope it can be a good wake up call for them.

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Quote from: dezoel on January 12, 2025, 04:58:22 AM

I agree that West Ham definitely made a terrible decision, Graham Potter isn't a good one at all, and he should not be considered as someone who is going to end up being that great at all. West Ham fans are aware of it, I have checked the reddit topics there and nobody is too excited, most of them are seeing this as temporary band-aid and that is why I believe we are going to see how he will do but fans are not expecting anything more.

Graham Potter is not a promising manager considering his last career with Chelsea, but it is a matter of fit, maybe with West Ham he can find something different. He does not fit with the Chelsea players, and now is the time to prove once again whether a club like West Ham and its players can work together to cover each other's shortcomings to create perfection. There is no harm in giving him a chance, becoming a manager of a club in the middle of the season does not guarantee satisfactory results.

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Quote from: dezoel on January 12, 2025, 04:58:22 AM

I agree that West Ham definitely made a terrible decision, Graham Potter isn't a good one at all, and he should not be considered as someone who is going to end up being that great at all. West Ham fans are aware of it, I have checked the reddit topics there and nobody is too excited, most of them are seeing this as temporary band-aid and that is why I believe we are going to see how he will do but fans are not expecting anything more.

I am sure that we are dealing with how things are going to change. The problem is that we are going to see this being a bit of long term issue for them as well, it is not going to really end up being all about this season, because the worse they do, the worse it is for their future and that will make it a lot better without a doubt.

Why are people concluding that Graham Potter is not a good coach? It seems their decision is mostly determined by his career in Chelsea where he had a bad time. To make a good judgment about his competence let's consider his entire career. He performed exceptionally well in Brighton and that was why he attracted the attention of Chelsea. I also heard him say that his break from football has exposed him to more knowledge about coaching. We don't have to conclude that he would not be a good coach, let's give him a chance to prove himself in West Ham.

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I agree that West Ham definitely made a terrible decision, Graham Potter isn't a good one at all, and he should not be considered as someone who is going to end up being that great at all. West Ham fans are aware of it, I have checked the reddit topics there and nobody is too excited, most of them are seeing this as temporary band-aid and that is why I believe we are going to see how he will do but fans are not expecting anything more.

I am sure that we are dealing with how things are going to change. The problem is that we are going to see this being a bit of long term issue for them as well, it is not going to really end up being all about this season, because the worse they do, the worse it is for their future and that will make it a lot better without a doubt.

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Quote from: Salahmu on January 11, 2025, 05:19:30 PM

I think Manchester City has gotten there highest goal today for all there entire match because apart from this there is no other match they scored 8 goals, i no that people will laugh a lot today because Salford was completely outweighed, actually this kind of club does not fit in premier League, however FA Cup has given MccAtee first hard trick, meanwhile Leicester City also hit a similar all time high of Manchester City but only stopping at the 6 goals and Queens Park rangers cancelled 2, Chelsea and Bournemouth 5 goals, actually the few premier League players has turned FA Cup red today.

Yes, the city is getting revenge for what happened in those clubs before. They have to show that The City is still a strong club and have a player on any position who can score goals in any situation. Pep must be pleased with this achievement because the squad is still looking for to how to recover from defeat on any previous match, and of course this match will boost the confidence squad to continue playing like this on the premier league. Maybe this match is revenge for their defeat against MU the other day, because Salford City is club who owner ex MU player, Ryan Giggs.

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Quote from: shinratensei_ on January 11, 2025, 10:47:57 AM

I saw that. It's an easy game for Everton. I were not doubting them to win it. They fought against a team with far below quality than them. It's easy for them to win it. The difference in the quality owned by both of clubs is the reason here.

They made 5 goal attempts, and only 1 successfully converted into the goal. They also get additional goal came from penalty. Not good or bad performance from Everon.

In that he is right, for me without discrediting Peterborough United because they are not a strong team, nor as decisive, Everton are for me on another level, and it is as you say, as long as this team maintains this level and does not lower it they will be able to easily beat this team, of course the game was kind of disorganized, strange, very odd, but even so they managed to get the result, not in the way that many of us expected them to get it but I think they also had good luck and that is what is fundamental, a result and staying away from relegation.

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Quote from: Woodie on January 11, 2025, 02:42:34 PM

I know it's not a Premier league weekend as we having FA Cup games..but it's nice to see Manchester City giving these small teams a real beating trying to think they will have a bite of the cake...but man this is a crazy scoreline by the citizens 8 nil and they still wanted to get more goals🎉😎..hope this is a start of a new beginning as the Premier league starts next weekend and they start the challenge to chase league leaders Liverpool!!

I think Manchester City has gotten there highest goal today for all there entire match because apart from this there is no other match they scored 8 goals, i no that people will laugh a lot today because Salford was completely outweighed, actually this kind of club does not fit in premier League, however FA Cup has given MccAtee first hard trick, meanwhile Leicester City also hit a similar all time high of Manchester City but only stopping at the 6 goals and Queens Park rangers cancelled 2, Chelsea and Bournemouth 5 goals, actually the few premier League players has turned FA Cup red today.

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Quote from: Docnaster on January 11, 2025, 04:51:00 PM

Beating Salford City 8:0 at home I don't think is a good way to make a statement. Pep Guardiola knows where he's needed to make that statement which is in the English Premier League and of course the UEFA Champions League but I doubt the Spaniard will be able to easily do that in any of the competitions.
Manchester City this season I don't think will be able to win any other this season apart from the Community Shield they won at the start of the season.

Manchester City’s performance has improved in their last three games, they started winning and they were scoring goals to back it up, and they team looks balanced compared to last two months where they were suffering a lot of defeats due to poor performance.

However, winning these matches doesn’t show that they are back fully just as you said, they need to prove it in the Premier League by going back to the top with their winning streak; while they should as well try their best to make it to the Champions League knockout stage because that’s the main thing the team needs right now in order to maintain their standard.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on January 11, 2025, 04:28:53 PM

Quote from: Woodie on January 11, 2025, 02:42:34 PM

I know it's not a Premier league weekend as we having FA Cup games..but it's nice to see Manchester City giving these small teams a real beating trying to think they will have a bite of the cake...but man this is a crazy scoreline by the citizens 8 nil and they still wanted to get more goals🎉😎..hope this is a start of a new beginning as the Premier league starts next weekend and they start the challenge to chase league leaders Liverpool!!

Beating Salford City 8:0 at home I don't think is a good way to make a statement. Pep Guardiola knows where he's needed to make that statement which is in the English Premier League and of course the UEFA Champions League but I doubt the Spaniard will be able to easily do that in any of the competitions.
Manchester City this season I don't think will be able to win any other this season apart from the Community Shield they won at the start of the season.

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Quote from: Woodie on January 11, 2025, 02:42:34 PM

I know it's not a Premier league weekend as we having FA Cup games..but it's nice to see Manchester City giving these small teams a real beating trying to think they will have a bite of the cake...but man this is a crazy scoreline by the citizens 8 nil and they still wanted to get more goals🎉😎..hope this is a start of a new beginning as the Premier league starts next weekend and they start the challenge to chase league leaders Liverpool!!

Manchester City played well in the match, they humiliated Salford today. I know they are a small club, but at least Manchester City is regaining their confidence back. Scoring 8 goals in a match is just really too much, and I didn’t expect so many goals from Manchester City, even as they played against a weak team. Since Manchester City is beginning to bounce back, let’s see how they are going to perform in their subsequent matches in the Premier League. Manchester City is going back to the city which we used to know, they are not always scared of any team.

I'm sure what Pep Guardiola will be all about now is how he will take over the first position from Liverpool, which I just think is going to be kind of difficult for Manchester City to achieve. Liverpool won’t want to drop from the first position, so they will do everything to keep on winning all their matches, but let’s see if Liverpool's performance is going to drop also, but if they can continue with their good performance, then they will be winning the league title this season.

Although Man City scored more goals in the match, the results obtained were not at all impressive, because they only faced a team playing in the 4th tier of the English Premier League. The difference in squad depth between the two is very far. The main competition remains in the Premier League, so I think it is still too early to say that Man City will continue to be on the winning track.

And for the next match in the second round of the English Premier League, Manchester City will face Brentford. Where in the previous match, Man City had difficulty winning over Brentford. They were only able to win with a narrow score of 2-1. and Brentford who recently managed to get a win after facing Southampton which ended with a score of 5-0, maybe in their meeting with Man City, they will give something different from the previous match.

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Quote from: Woodie on January 11, 2025, 02:42:34 PM

I know it's not a Premier league weekend as we having FA Cup games..but it's nice to see Manchester City giving these small teams a real beating trying to think they will have a bite of the cake...but man this is a crazy scoreline by the citizens 8 nil and they still wanted to get more goals🎉😎..hope this is a start of a new beginning as the Premier league starts next weekend and they start the challenge to chase league leaders Liverpool!!

Not a chance... There's a huge gap between them and Liverpool. I do think they can mount any pressure on to them even if they were to perform consistently until the end of the season. I think Manchester City will lose so more Premier League games soon.

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Quote from: Woodie on January 11, 2025, 02:42:34 PM

I know it's not a Premier league weekend as we having FA Cup games..but it's nice to see Manchester City giving these small teams a real beating trying to think they will have a bite of the cake...but man this is a crazy scoreline by the citizens 8 nil and they still wanted to get more goals🎉😎..hope this is a start of a new beginning as the Premier league starts next weekend and they start the challenge to chase league leaders Liverpool!!

Manchester City played well in the match, they humiliated Salford today. I know they are a small club, but at least Manchester City is regaining their confidence back. Scoring 8 goals in a match is just really too much, and I didn’t expect so many goals from Manchester City, even as they played against a weak team. Since Manchester City is beginning to bounce back, let’s see how they are going to perform in their subsequent matches in the Premier League. Manchester City is going back to the city which we used to know, they are not always scared of any team.

I'm sure what Pep Guardiola will be all about now is how he will take over the first position from Liverpool, which I just think is going to be kind of difficult for Manchester City to achieve. Liverpool won’t want to drop from the first position, so they will do everything to keep on winning all their matches, but let’s see if Liverpool's performance is going to drop also, but if they can continue with their good performance, then they will be winning the league title this season.

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No Premier League games this weekend and we'll have to wait till Tue for another round. To me, the most interesting game of the matchday 21 is Nottm Forest Vs Liverpool.
The odds for that game are:

Nottm Forest: x4.50
Draw: x4.00
Liverpool: x1.70

This looks about right, but maybe Nottm Forest are underestimated a bit. They are on 6 wins streak, while Liverpool lost the 1 leg semi-final against Tottenham and split points at home with troubled Man United.
What's a bit strange is that both teams tend to perform slightly better in away games than at home (the difference is negligible though).

Only Nottingham is better for away games than home games, about Liverpool it is clear, so far Liverpool is the best team for home and away games. However, Nottingham is the only team that managed to beat Liverpool at Anfield in the Premier League this season. So, underestimating Nottingham at this moment is certainly not right, because Nottingham is really a dark horse that cannot be underestimated this season.

But, because previously Liverpool lost to Nottingham at Anfield then of course, the revenge mission will be the target for Liverpool in this match, with the great ambition to take revenge then maybe it will come true for Liverpool's victory. Although maybe I am also not completely sure that Liverpool will win this match, because maybe Nottingham will make a surprise in their home game later against Liverpool.

Nottingham is also in a good form and they can still be a hard nut for Liverpool to crack on that day. However, Liverpool should be able to revenge with this match in order for them to gain all thrse points.

I wouldn't be surprised if Liverpool finds it difficult to win Nottingham for the second time. If this happens, it means that Nottingham understands Liverpool weakness and is using it as an advantage over them.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on January 10, 2025, 12:56:23 PM

I see Manchester City having an away game vs Brentford. After winning 2 games in a row Guardiola's club look stronger. I liked their effort in the last one too. I guess I will seriously think of adding their win into my parlay after a while. Grin

Now they have won 3 games in a row, because they just beat Salford 8-0 in the Fa Cup, we don't say this often, but this is the first time City are winning three games in a row in a long time. Brentford are a very strong side at home, so it will be a very tough game for City, if City beat Brentford away from home, then i will believe that they are actually back to form and that they have found their rhythm again.

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I know it's not a Premier league weekend as we having FA Cup games..but it's nice to see Manchester City giving these small teams a real beating trying to think they will have a bite of the cake...but man this is a crazy scoreline by the citizens 8 nil and they still wanted to get more goals🎉😎..hope this is a start of a new beginning as the Premier league starts next weekend and they start the challenge to chase league leaders Liverpool!!

Quote from: pawel7777 on January 11, 2025, 09:13:31 AM

No Premier League games this weekend and we'll have to wait till Tue for another round. To me, the most interesting game of the matchday 21 is Nottm Forest Vs Liverpool.
The odds for that game are:

Nottm Forest: x4.50
Draw: x4.00
Liverpool: x1.70

Dejavu.

No easy game that's for sure, aren't Nottingham Forest the team that gave Liverpool the first lose this season and to meet again when both are in good form Shocked

can't wait for this one..it will be explosive!

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Quote from: pawel7777 on January 11, 2025, 09:13:31 AM

No Premier League games this weekend and we'll have to wait till Tue for another round. To me, the most interesting game of the matchday 21 is Nottm Forest Vs Liverpool.
The odds for that game are:

Nottm Forest: x4.50
Draw: x4.00
Liverpool: x1.70

This looks about right, but maybe Nottm Forest are underestimated a bit. They are on 6 wins streak, while Liverpool lost the 1 leg semi-final against Tottenham and split points at home with troubled Man United.
What's a bit strange is that both teams tend to perform slightly better in away games than at home (the difference is negligible though).

Only Nottingham is better for away games than home games, about Liverpool it is clear, so far Liverpool is the best team for home and away games. However, Nottingham is the only team that managed to beat Liverpool at Anfield in the Premier League this season. So, underestimating Nottingham at this moment is certainly not right, because Nottingham is really a dark horse that cannot be underestimated this season.

But, because previously Liverpool lost to Nottingham at Anfield then of course, the revenge mission will be the target for Liverpool in this match, with the great ambition to take revenge then maybe it will come true for Liverpool's victory. Although maybe I am also not completely sure that Liverpool will win this match, because maybe Nottingham will make a surprise in their home game later against Liverpool.

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