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The last match of PL is gonna happen soon. This is the game between Chelsea vs Westham. As per the odds, Chelsea is favorite, and i do like to bet on them. They played at home, with a better squad than Westham.

The only thing that is worrying me if Maresca does another dumb rotation. This is obviously destroying his team's gameplay. Hopefully, he's not going to do that. I believe Chelsea can win the game so i take them. If they lose, i were not lucky enough.

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Quote from: SmartCharpa on February 03, 2025, 01:07:49 AM

Wolves secured their fifth Premier League victory over Aston Villa; which surprised everyone with Aston Villa's strong record. Wolves, on the other hand, have just won their fifth Premier League game against Aston Villa out of 24 games this season, they got an important point at home to move out of the relegation zone, two points ahead of Leicester City. This season has been difficult for Aston Villa, as they have struggled to dominate every opponent like they did the previous season while trying to finish among the top four.

Wolves, on the other hand, want to do everything they can to avoid relegation this season, and I believe they have a good chance, they have two points over Leicester City; three points over Ipswich Town, and ten points more than Southampton. Wolves used their home advantage to defeat Aston Villa, and now that they have done so, they can challenge other strong teams in the league or at home to win their next match.

I thought Wolves might lose points again. Because they can't do anything against tough opponents. Just like their recent results against Arsenal, Chelsea, Newcastle and Forest. Sad

However they managed to beat Aston Villa with a really effective performance. Nearly all of their shots were on target 2 of which ended up with goals.

Vítor Pereira has been trying his best for Wolves since he took the job. Except the kind of games I mentioned, he has done a good job with winning many games. But they are still under danger near the relegation zone so there is much more work to do...

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Arsenal Vs Manchester City, Arsenal are up to a flyer as they take the early lead in just 105 seconds of kick off. A mistake from Akanji caused the goal, Odegard puts it at the back of the net cool and easy. Arsenal 1 Vs Manchester City 0. Let's see what happens as the game progresses.

I confess that I am very shocked by the way Manchester City was defeated, they were very humiliated and the Manchester United defense players are to blame for all those goals that Arsenal scored. It seems that the Manchester United players have no motivation to play, I don't know what is happening with the Manchester City players off the field, but it seems to me that they are playing without focus on the field.

I was also surprised by such a score line. I never thought Arsenal were going to batter Manchester City with such a score line. It was a disappointing m performance form Manchester City though the match was played at the Emirates, City were playing like they were confused. Manchester City performed way below their standard and Arsenal taught them a good lesson. Could this really be the end of Manchester City's era of dominance?

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Quote from: pawel7777 on February 02, 2025, 01:38:59 PM

I haven't seen the game and I can't even see any decent highlights being available yet.
What the hell happened there? Has Man City got overly relaxed after scoring the equaliser? Were they really that bad from the 55th minute to allow Arsenal score another 4 goals, or was it just Arsenal being lucky?
Anyhow, judging by the score and game stats, it doesn't seem like the City is 100% back to their former selves.

To be honest, I didn't watch the game as well, but I'm finding it difficult to understand how Manchester City conceded so many goals in the second half. Manchester City is in a mess this season. Haaland scored an equalizer goal for Manchester City in the 55th minute of the game, and I assumed it would lead to a victory, but I was wrong. Manchester City was terrible after scoring one goal. Manchester City has turned into a team in which every player can score whenever they want. Lewis-Skelly also scored his Premier League goal yesterday against Manchester City.

However, before the game started, I said that Manchester City would not defeat Arsenal, but many people expected that Manchester City would win or draw against Arsenal, and I disagreed with them because Manchester City did not appear to be a team that was fully back to their winning ways. If we look at Manchester City's previous wins, they were against weak clubs, such as against Club Brugge, whom they struggled to make a comeback in the Champions League. We have yet to see the reason for the new signing of Manchester City.

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Quote from: Adbitco on February 02, 2025, 04:06:23 PM

Nice revenge for Arsenal considering the fact that apart from last season, they lost 11 times in a row to Manchester City, this is the perfect opportunity for Arsenal to give them a heavy blow so it can also be on record. Arsenal were incredible especially after the equaliser from City which made it 1 - 1 they had to out and run riot because they needed this win in order not to be too far away from the league leaders. Arsenal still giving Liverpool the chase, really nice.

These were two very different halves, and it was in the second half that City's defensive problems were revealed. Ederson was very noticeably absent, Guardiola said he had an injury, so he would miss this match, a minor injury but it was obviously enough to miss this game. Arsenal definitely deserved to win this match, I don't know if it's worth saying that it was revenge or something like that, it's just that City are going through difficult times, they definitely need time to recover.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on February 02, 2025, 09:15:34 AM

Yesterday games in the EPL was full of surprises. I never expected Wolves to win Aston Villa in their encounter. It was like a surprise when Wolves took an early lead in the 12th mins and Aston Villa were not able to equalize. Matheus Cunha added more salt to their injury as his late goal sealed the win for Wolves. It was an intense and tough match for Wolves but they were able to come out with all three points. It was an important win for Wolves as this win see them move two points safe from the relegation zone.

Wolves secured their fifth Premier League victory over Aston Villa; which surprised everyone with Aston Villa's strong record. Wolves, on the other hand, have just won their fifth Premier League game against Aston Villa out of 24 games this season, they got an important point at home to move out of the relegation zone, two points ahead of Leicester City. This season has been difficult for Aston Villa, as they have struggled to dominate every opponent like they did the previous season while trying to finish among the top four.

Wolves, on the other hand, want to do everything they can to avoid relegation this season, and I believe they have a good chance, they have two points over Leicester City; three points over Ipswich Town, and ten points more than Southampton. Wolves used their home advantage to defeat Aston Villa, and now that they have done so, they can challenge other strong teams in the league or at home to win their next match.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on February 02, 2025, 01:38:59 PM

I haven't seen the game and I can't even see any decent highlights being available yet.
What the hell happened there? Has Man City got overly relaxed after scoring the equaliser? Were they really that bad from the 55th minute to allow Arsenal score another 4 goals, or was it just Arsenal being lucky?
Anyhow, judging by the score and game stats, it doesn't seem like the City is 100% back to their former selves.

The remaining 4 goals came like a nightmare to Manchester City after they scored their equaliser goal. Although I was not hoping for Manchester to win in this game because based on their performance, I don’t think they will be able to win against Arsenal in the game, which is the same thing that came out as the outcome, although the game was not easy for Manchester City because at the end of the game, it was like Arsenal's defence was harder for Manchester City to break through, so they will have to accept the defeat against Arsenal.

Nice revenge for Arsenal considering the fact that apart from last season, they lost 11 times in a row to Manchester City, this is the perfect opportunity for Arsenal to give them a heavy blow so it can also be on record. Arsenal were incredible especially after the equaliser from City which made it 1 - 1 they had to out and run riot because they needed this win in order not to be too far away from the league leaders. Arsenal still giving Liverpool the chase, really nice.

this is a scoreline i am sure that even arsenal players never saw coming and finally, they have humbled Halland to the core. to be honest, any team that is good at scoring goals and is able to capitalize on the lapses of Manchester city defense can easily get this kind of result against Manchester city and for same arsenal that city defeated and ridiculed, this was just more than a win for Arteta. this sort of scoreline is going to demoralize the whole team for a while and will take long to recover from. at the start of the game i was of the opinion that regardless of the outcome of the game that it was never going to afect the way the outcome of the champions league game will look like but at this point, all i can say is that it is well. to know that apart from their next FA game against Leyton orient, the rest of the games they will be playing is against teams that are strong enough to pull this kind of result with line up like Newcastle, Liverpool, Tottenham and Nottingham Forest all line up waiting to devour them. what a season it will be for pep Guardiola.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on February 02, 2025, 01:38:59 PM

I haven't seen the game and I can't even see any decent highlights being available yet.
What the hell happened there? Has Man City got overly relaxed after scoring the equaliser? Were they really that bad from the 55th minute to allow Arsenal score another 4 goals, or was it just Arsenal being lucky?
Anyhow, judging by the score and game stats, it doesn't seem like the City is 100% back to their former selves.

Top game from the gunners, I do love how they have improved personally against a side like Manchester City over the years. Mikel Arteta has indeed proved and provoked Pep Guardiola this time again next season. Mikel Arteta should please learn to use Thomas Partey more as a natural 6 ( Defensive Position ).
Well, I feel like the manager is doing great bit I can't say same for the management of Arsenal. The main focus should have been signing a new striker but they showed otherwise like they have no such interest. There's nothing about luck, they was the better side believe me.

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Quote from: hahay on February 02, 2025, 07:25:29 PM

It was really unexpected, how could Manchester City lose so badly with a score of 5-1 like that. And it seems like this is Manchester City's first big defeat against Arsenal. Although indeed, in the past Arsenal also managed to beat Manchester City with a big score several times, but the defeat was only by a difference of three goals, not like what happened now losing by a difference of four goals.

Obviously, this is a bad defeat for Manchester City, but it is a big success for Arsenal but even so, Arsenal still has not managed to get the trophy. Regarding Manchester City's current position, it is still in fourth place, but Chelsea will play at home match against West Ham later. If Chelsea manages to beat West Ham then Chelsea will return to fourth place overtaking Newcastle and Manchester City.

Man City is terrible at middle and defense. I think Pep made so many mistake, and he always repeats it even often. One of his biggest mistake is putting Foden as a mid. The heck is wrong with this guy?

Foden should have said goodbye to the mid position, he's not right man for that job. The big lost against Arsenal is too suffer.

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Quote from: hahay on February 02, 2025, 07:25:29 PM

It was really unexpected, how could Manchester City lose so badly with a score of 5-1 like that.

Arsenal through two latest seasons competing for Premier League title directly with Manchester City, in several matches show their strength and ability to beat Manchester City, but failed to have a win directly to this strong opponent. This season is a time for Arsenal to win against Manchester City, and more impressively they got a landslide win.

Quote from: joniboini on February 02, 2025, 09:03:44 PM

I believe their backline has been weak since months ago, hence why they bought a new defender although it seems like he needs time to settle in. He's very young, to begin with, so putting too much pressure on him makes no sense. It doesn't help that their midfield is out of depth too. They made so many errors that Arsenal could've scored 7 goals IMO. The players' mentality is so low that they made terrible passes on their defense, leading to so many counter-attack opportunities from their opponents. This stuff happened when they faced Chelsea too iirc.

Arsenal exploited Manchester City defensive weakness very well and abused the opponent's mentality drop very efficiently. They deserved this big win because they played well and also because of terrible mentality and performance of Manchester City. This defeat again raises an alarm on Manchester City, that they returned to top four, they escaped Champions League group stage to playoff stage but if they play like this when meeting Real Madrid, they will have to go home soon.

In Premier League, they have many things to do for completing this season in top four, with many teams are joining top four competition.

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Quote from: hahay on February 02, 2025, 07:25:29 PM

It was really unexpected, how could Manchester City lose so badly with a score of 5-1 like that.

I believe their backline has been weak since months ago, hence why they bought a new defender although it seems like he needs time to settle in. He's very young, to begin with, so putting too much pressure on him makes no sense. It doesn't help that their midfield is out of depth too. They made so many errors that Arsenal could've scored 7 goals IMO. The players' mentality is so low that they made terrible passes on their defense, leading to so many counter-attack opportunities from their opponents. This stuff happened when they faced Chelsea too iirc.

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It was really unexpected, how could Manchester City lose so badly with a score of 5-1 like that. And it seems like this is Manchester City's first big defeat against Arsenal. Although indeed, in the past Arsenal also managed to beat Manchester City with a big score several times, but the defeat was only by a difference of three goals, not like what happened now losing by a difference of four goals.

Obviously, this is a bad defeat for Manchester City, but it is a big success for Arsenal but even so, Arsenal still has not managed to get the trophy. Regarding Manchester City's current position, it is still in fourth place, but Chelsea will play at home match against West Ham later. If Chelsea manages to beat West Ham then Chelsea will return to fourth place overtaking Newcastle and Manchester City.

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Quote from: Issa56 on February 02, 2025, 04:32:53 PM

Today’s game came as a surprise to everyone, people that predicted Arsenal to win the match didn’t expect Arsenal to score so many goals in the match. I was expecting Arsenal to get a win in the match, but I wasn’t so sure about that, but what surprised me most in the match was the amount of goals Arsenal scored in the match, I never expected Manchester City to concede that amount of goals. Manchester City's performance has gotten worse, they were able to get a win against Chelsea because Chelsea didn’t play well also in the match, so most people were expecting maybe a similar thing was going to happen against Arsenal today, but Arsenal ended up humiliating Manchester City in the match.

The city being very neglectful in defense. Arsenal attackers have several times outwitted the city defender as they did on 1st goals. Pep seems not to focus on defense, he always implements the attacking strategy without paying attention to the back. Manchester City's squad feels like champions thus considered easy to create a goal, but in fact, Arsenal's squad is even more champions mentally. I am focusing on Myles Lewis-Skelly, a player who gets a high rating on this match. He always moves in all directions, left and right wings to break the city's defense. He's very young and not afraid to face Foden in the back and salute, he scored a goal, and he becomes the youngest player who creates a goal like Wayne Royne did.

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Quote from: |MINER| on February 02, 2025, 05:03:34 PM

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Today’s game came as a surprise to everyone, people that predicted Arsenal to win the match didn’t expect Arsenal to score so many goals in the match. I was expecting Arsenal to get a win in the match, but I wasn’t so sure about that, but what surprised me most in the match was the amount of goals Arsenal scored in the match, I never expected Manchester City to concede that amount of goals. Manchester City's performance has gotten worse, they were able to get a win against Chelsea because Chelsea didn’t play well also in the match, so most people were expecting maybe a similar thing was going to happen against Arsenal today, but Arsenal ended up humiliating Manchester City in the match.

In my case, it was different. I expected Manchester City to win that match. Because during that match, Manchester City was in the top form of the English Premier League. And the Arsenal was in the third rank maybe.

But in reality, the atmosphere changed a lot after the match started. I thought Manchester City would be able to recover after half time, but they performed even worse in the second half. Although they held the ball position more in the match, their strikers could not kick at the right time.

Honestly I thought it would be difficult for Arsenal to win but Arsenal did something you didn't think of yet, they scored five goals against Manchester City, what a match, Arsenal burned the stadium and the fans with the game they played. Manchester City looked better than Arsenal but we saw in this match that it wasn't like that.

Haaland scored the goal that would fix Manchester City's situation in the second half and the score was 1-1. At that moment, while Manchester City was thinking they would come back, Arsenal took the situation to another place and determined the level differently there.

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Quote from: Egii Nna on February 02, 2025, 04:01:15 PM

Quote from: pawel7777 on February 02, 2025, 01:38:59 PM

I haven't seen the game and I can't even see any decent highlights being available yet.
What the hell happened there? Has Man City got overly relaxed after scoring the equaliser? Were they really that bad from the 55th minute to allow Arsenal score another 4 goals, or was it just Arsenal being lucky?
Anyhow, judging by the score and game stats, it doesn't seem like the City is 100% back to their former selves.

Considering their recent convincing wins, I was even thinking that Manchester City were back to their best until Arsenal thrashed then today show that they're still far from their best. But apart from how impressive Arsenal were in that game another thing that caught my fancy was how the young lads in that team gave grown to be bossing big games like today's game. Lewis-Skelly and Nwaneri are still teenagers but they played like world class veterans against Manchester City today.
Mikel Arteta is doing exceptionally well in raising talents at the Emirates and if they continue to progress like they're currently doing, they might help him win major trophies in no distant time

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Quote from: |MINER| on February 02, 2025, 05:03:34 PM

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Today’s game came as a surprise to everyone, people that predicted Arsenal to win the match didn’t expect Arsenal to score so many goals in the match. I was expecting Arsenal to get a win in the match, but I wasn’t so sure about that, but what surprised me most in the match was the amount of goals Arsenal scored in the match, I never expected Manchester City to concede that amount of goals. Manchester City's performance has gotten worse, they were able to get a win against Chelsea because Chelsea didn’t play well also in the match, so most people were expecting maybe a similar thing was going to happen against Arsenal today, but Arsenal ended up humiliating Manchester City in the match.

In my case, it was different. I expected Manchester City to win that match. Because during that match, Manchester City was in the top form of the English Premier League. And the Arsenal was in the third rank maybe.

But in reality, the atmosphere changed a lot after the match started. I thought Manchester City would be able to recover after half time, but they performed even worse in the second half. Although they held the ball position more in the match, their strikers could not kick at the right time.

The rank doesn't matter when two league giants are playing against each other, moreover City were still trying to come back after getting streaks of loses, well it's understandable for most people to pick City cause they've been the champions for several years and expect them to maintain the standards but it's very clear that their performance this season is nothing compared to the previous ones. On the other hands Arsenal has been in good form and are more threatening to Liverpool than other rivals.

I noticed that both Arsenal male and female teams defeated Manchester City, it like they planned to do so, it's lovely and has put smiles on the faces of their fans, especially my friend who haven't posted about them for a while to had to post about their victory today on her social media account.

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Quote from: Issa56 on February 02, 2025, 04:32:53 PM

Today’s game came as a surprise to everyone, people that predicted Arsenal to win the match didn’t expect Arsenal to score so many goals in the match. I was expecting Arsenal to get a win in the match, but I wasn’t so sure about that, but what surprised me most in the match was the amount of goals Arsenal scored in the match, I never expected Manchester City to concede that amount of goals. Manchester City's performance has gotten worse, they were able to get a win against Chelsea because Chelsea didn’t play well also in the match, so most people were expecting maybe a similar thing was going to happen against Arsenal today, but Arsenal ended up humiliating Manchester City in the match.

In my case, it was different. I expected Manchester City to win that match. Because during that match, Manchester City was in the top form of the English Premier League. And the Arsenal was in the third rank maybe.

But in reality, the atmosphere changed a lot after the match started. I thought Manchester City would be able to recover after half time, but they performed even worse in the second half. Although they held the ball position more in the match, their strikers could not kick at the right time.

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Quote from: Slow death on February 02, 2025, 02:09:46 PM

I confess that I am very shocked by the way Manchester City was defeated, they were very humiliated and the Manchester United defense players are to blame for all those goals that Arsenal scored. It seems that the Manchester United players have no motivation to play, I don't know what is happening with the Manchester City players off the field, but it seems to me that they are playing without focus on the field.

Today’s game came as a surprise to everyone, people that predicted Arsenal to win the match didn’t expect Arsenal to score so many goals in the match. I was expecting Arsenal to get a win in the match, but I wasn’t so sure about that, but what surprised me most in the match was the amount of goals Arsenal scored in the match, I never expected Manchester City to concede that amount of goals. Manchester City's performance has gotten worse, they were able to get a win against Chelsea because Chelsea didn’t play well also in the match, so most people were expecting maybe a similar thing was going to happen against Arsenal today, but Arsenal ended up humiliating Manchester City in the match.

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Quote from: Slow death on February 02, 2025, 02:09:46 PM

I confess that I am very shocked by the way Manchester City was defeated, they were very humiliated and the Manchester United defense players are to blame for all those goals that Arsenal scored. It seems that the Manchester United players have no motivation to play, I don't know what is happening with the Manchester City players off the field, but it seems to me that they are playing without focus on the field.

Like this is the most happiest day since this season started because I was scared that arsenal might lose to Manchester City but look at what eventually happened arsenal gave them a flawless finish and I was not expecting anything like this ti happen, and they humiliated Manchester City and even there fans don't have anything to say because they have made so many comments of how arsenal is bad and look at the way they are defeated 5:1 and I was very happy.

And just 2 minutes of the game and a goal was already know that Manchester City will be in trouble because no one expected Manchester City to lose to arsenal this way and I won't even lie Manchester City needs to seriously works on there self they are losing confidence and it is seriously affecting there performance who would have thought that the all mighty Manchester ciy will lose at this point and that is one of the reasons why you can not always be the king when it comes to football, they even have the players but there performance is zero so who is going to save Manchester City.

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I also expect Arsenal to get 3 points in this match but indeed this will definitely be a little difficult even though for now Arsenal are still better in terms of standings but it cannot be denied that this is a big match where prestige sometimes becomes a fixed price that must be maintained. In addition, currently Manchester City is also starting to show good performance for now so in the end there could be a difference where Manchester City makes some difference with 3 points they get back in this match.

The 1x2 odds are quite good but I for the match want to try for both clubs to score because indeed this might be a good thing for betting with a greater probability than 1x2 besides that if you look at the productivity of the two clubs that feel over 3 is also still possible to do if you want to bet on this match.

Last season too we saw one of the most competitive matches in the English Premier League between Arsenal and Manchester City but nothing like that is happening this season. Manchester City was a strong team last season and this season they have become a weak team so there is no chance of Arsenal having a tough competition with Manchester City at least this season. Now if there is a match between Arsenal and Manchester City, Arsenal can easily be ahead. I will favor Arsenal to win this match and I believe Arsenal will definitely get full points against Manchester City. If Arsenal get full points in this match against Manchester City, they will go a little further on points and Liverpool will be only 6 points ahead of them.

The match was very interesting as the intensity of the attack was actually quite good to watch but Manchester City lost so much momentum that they were troubled by their own game which made them lose very strikingly in this match.

I actually think that one of them will win by a close score but in this match it seems that the striking conditions made a big difference in the final result.

Arsenal were good at taking advantage of the momentum when Manchester City's defense was poor they could maximize it with excellence but instead Manchester City who controlled the ball always entered the Arsenal trap which in the end this situation made Arsenal more comfortable in their attack and scored easily.

I made a bet on Over 3 and the results were as expected where indeed this ended in a sweet victory.

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