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Any thoughts on Arsenal losing the 1 leg EFL cup semi-final game to Newcastle 0-2 in front of their own audience? Is it because they didn't take it seriously (they had some players from the bench) or is Newcastle just overall a better team recently.
I know the EFL cup is not a priority for the top Premier League clubs, but it would be strange to get this far to just drop out without a fight.

Meanwhile, Tottenham just took a 1-0 lead against Liverpool in today's game.
Losing the first leg of the Carabao Cup tie to Newcastle United was heartbreaking, the fact that Arsenal conceded two goals makes me sick to my stomach. For the first time in a while Arsenal are actually putting interest in going for the league cup and they are already two goals deficit to a team who are good defensively and better with counter attacks, how does Arsenal get three goals against a team low blocking. I think it will be difficult to get back in this competition with the second leg only left to play.
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If it was Manchester City that was in the position of Arsenal and Liverpool was just 6 points ahead of them then I maybe that they can catch up with them, but Arsenal cant. In fact, I belive instead of Arsenal to catch up, Liverpool will extend the gap even further because Arsenal will drop more points.
I agree with you totally, Arsenal isn't a team that can be trusted with the responsibility of catching up with a team, its even bad that even if you replace Arsenal with Liverpool at the top now, come March, Arsenal won't be at the top again, lol its really that bad for that team called Arsenal.

Most times we refer to Arsenal as an elephant whenever they are at the top of the table, nobody knows how an elephant got to the tree top but everyone knows that sooner or later, that elephant on the tree top will still fall down. That's Arsenal for you, it's their fans i pity most of the time, cause how can you be supporting such a big team for ages without a tangible trophy to show for it.
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Last season Manchester United was also not as we expected, but we still always filled the number of seats at Old Trafford and almost never missed the screen to watch Manchester United play.
Then, last season Liverpool also did not perform well even though this season they got more points than other teams.
Manchester United fans will always be patient and believe that Manchester United will be better next season. It just takes time for us.
We hope that Manchester United team get better next season because that’s what we were saying towards the end of last season where Ten Hag was their manager.
 
Fans are always patient because most of these fans are true fans that has been with the club for long, they have dedicated themselves to the team and decided to stay and support the team through good and bad, but everybody will be hoping for good.

Liverpool fans are also good and they are patient, same as Arsenal and Chelsea because these teams has undergone some poor forms in the past seasons and their fans are still supporting them.

If Manchester United hopes to achieve better results next season, it seems they have a lot to learn from Nottingham Forest. What Nottingham Forest has done this season is extraordinary, and who would have thought that this season Nottingham Forest would compete closely at the top of the standings, because in the previous season Nottingham Forest was only able to finish in 17th position, almost relegated to the second division.

As fans, of course we all hope that every season will be the beginning of MU's revival, even though in the end Manchester United is still slumping. However, this season's journey is still quite long, and Manchester United must maximize the remaining matches they have well, so that at the end of the season they can finish in a better position, at least finish in the top 10.

and in order to continue competing in the European league next season, Manchester United must maximize their opportunities in the UEFA European league, they must fight tooth and nail to be able to win the title again. Man United's chances of qualifying for the last 16 are still wide open.

And regarding Liverpool, this season they have had incredible consistency, while regarding Arsenal, well, as usual every season they have only been able to finish as runners-up but have yet to lift a trophy.
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We hope that Manchester United team get better next season because that’s what we were saying towards the end of last season where Ten Hag was their manager.
 
Fans are always patient because most of these fans are true fans that has been with the club for long, they have dedicated themselves to the team and decided to stay and support the team through good and bad, but everybody will be hoping for good.

Liverpool fans are also good and they are patient, same as Arsenal and Chelsea because these teams has undergone some poor forms in the past seasons and their fans are still supporting them.
There are many things that Amorim must do to be able to make Manchester United stronger in the second half of the season. A stronger job is to develop a better strategy and also bring in new players to improve their role more solidly on the field. Manchester United failed to win in their 4 matches, experiencing 3 consecutive defeats and one draw which made their performance worse.

Amorim must see the potential of his players, he must give them a good opportunity to show if he wants to change the strategy in the second half of the season. Fans must support him but for now fans want to see faster changes because other teams are able to perform well while Manchester united failed to do so.
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Yes you are right. Without Kevin de Bruyne in the squad, Manchester City's performance has deteriorated. His absence impacts the team's creativity and fluidity in midfield as he is pivotal in orchestrating attacks and providing crucial passes. Without Kevin de Bryune, there is an obvious difference in Manchester City’s attack.

De Bruyne was injured for a long time and he newly started to play for long amount of time in the Premier League. But he is getting old and it is normal to see his performance getting worse in time. Maybe you can give Salah as an example against it this season. However not every big player at his age is showing that big performance in those times as well. De Bruyne is going to leave Manchester City this summer if he doesn't get a contract extension soon. I think his next team might be in Saudi Arabia as they would be eager to bring a star like him. Smiley
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Missing important pivot between him and Rodri gave City lots of impact, yet they won't stuck in the same place forever. I believe Pep has found solution over this.
Rodri and KDB have proven to be the foundation for team City but of late the boys seem to have adapted without them and we shall be looking forward to see how they play next road of games.
 
This is also De Bruyne's last season in City.
Is this confirmed or based on internet speculation  Roll Eyes because I know football ⚽️  fans have a habit of bending news to their liking for traffic if this is coming from a media house  Tongue and Pep wouldn't let KEVIN go that easily...
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De Bruyne's injury still impacting club's performance. He often contributed a lot when he's fit. The club being so clueless when he was not playing as they have no good break line passer other than him. Despite often missed the games, but he still contributes to the club.

Missing important pivot between him and Rodri gave City lots of impact, yet they won't stuck in the same place forever. I believe Pep has found solution over this.

This is also De Bruyne's last season in City.


Yes you are right. Without Kevin de Bruyne in the squad, Manchester City's performance has deteriorated. His absence impacts the team's creativity and fluidity in midfield as he is pivotal in orchestrating attacks and providing crucial passes. Without Kevin de Bryune, there is an obvious difference in Manchester City’s attack.
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Honestly I would be very okay with watching a title competition until the end of the season.  Grin  Therefore seeing Liverpool stumbling isn't a problem to me. When it comes to how long they will keep it up, I'm also curious. In the end Arne Slot is in his first season in the Premier League managing a this big team for the first time in his manager career. As a young manager (46) at the same time, we all must be curious how quick he will handle it.

That's for you that's not a Liverpool fan.  Grin
Every Liverpool fan will want the gap to be increased as much as possible. They will want them to run away with the league if possible because if they don't any little mistake can make them lose the league.
Liverpool is 6 points ahead with a game in hand, so i doubt they will bottle the league though. I don't think they will drop form so much that another team will overthrow them from the first position.  

In the meantime maybe Arsenal could also catch up with them more if they don't mess up too. I know Nottingham Forest also have the same points with them but I can't be sure whether they would last that long in top 4. But I admit they have really capable players.  Smiley

If it was Manchester City that was in the position of Arsenal and Liverpool was just 6 points ahead of them then I maybe that they can catch up with them, but Arsenal cant. In fact, I belive instead of Arsenal to catch up, Liverpool will extend the gap even further because Arsenal will drop more points.
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When a team is leading, it's quite easy to get complacent and start getting draws and losses because in most cases they already know that they are good and even if they lose like two in a row they could end up with title contending.

So right now, Liverpool could lose two in a row after this game they could still do great and probably even lead the league, so they do not really care and losing that care ends up being very important for them. If they end up losing out like that, it's not really that simple because they can't give up all together because that would be terrible but at the same time there are few games throughout the season they could just end up not caring at all for those few games. In the end, just focus on overall situation and if you can do much better if you could focus on all games type of situation.

The draw that Liverpool got when facing Man United in the English Premier League was a result that was never even predicted before, this was a surprising result.

And regarding the defeat experienced by Liverpool in the League Cup, I saw that in that match Liverpool had lost their sharpness when they were in front of the Spurs goal, even though they had penetrated the Spurs defense several times, but it was very unfortunate that they wasted the opportunity. And Liverpool were not only unable to score a goal against Spurs, but at the end of the match Liverpool also lost their consistency so that they had to concede one goal from Spurs. However, even so, there is still a second match, and Liverpool will play as the host, and they must host Tottenham with a good game, like Tottenham did when they hosted Liverpool. Being one goal behind, I think it is not difficult for Liverpool to be able to turn things around in the second half, especially since they are playing as the host.
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Last season Manchester United was also not as we expected, but we still always filled the number of seats at Old Trafford and almost never missed the screen to watch Manchester United play.
Then, last season Liverpool also did not perform well even though this season they got more points than other teams.
Manchester United fans will always be patient and believe that Manchester United will be better next season. It just takes time for us.
We hope that Manchester United team get better next season because that’s what we were saying towards the end of last season where Ten Hag was their manager.
 
Fans are always patient because most of these fans are true fans that has been with the club for long, they have dedicated themselves to the team and decided to stay and support the team through good and bad, but everybody will be hoping for good.

Liverpool fans are also good and they are patient, same as Arsenal and Chelsea because these teams has undergone some poor forms in the past seasons and their fans are still supporting them.
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Bournemouth have lost their reserve striker. Enes Ünal was injured in training, tearing his right anterior cruciate ligament. He will need surgery and is likely to miss the season. He didn't get many chances in the starting 11 at Bournemouth, but he was coming on later and scored 2 goals last month. He couldn't show his La Liga performance here. I'm not sure if he will be able to stay in the Premier League next season after this injury. He's also an important player for the Turkish national team. We didn't see enough of him in the Premier League but hopefully he can come back strong.
Its a pity to lose a striker at such a crucial stage of the season. It's unfortunate that Bournemouth's reserve striker, Enes ünal has suffered a torn anterior cruciate ligament during a training session at the club. This type of injury is not only physical demanding but also requires a lengthy recovery process that often takes several months. For Bournemouth, this is a significant blow to their squad depth and attacking options especially during a time every point is vital in the Premier League.
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Manchester United has been consistently underperforming this season in the Premier League so it is natural for everyone to think that this team might not be able to win any match very easily, but the team is slowly changing i.e. their style of play is changing. If they can keep up their performance in every match like the strong performance they showed against Liverpool then maybe they can continue their winning streak.
Last season Manchester United was also not as we expected, but we still always filled the number of seats at Old Trafford and almost never missed the screen to watch Manchester United play.
Then, last season Liverpool also did not perform well even though this season they got more points than other teams.
Manchester United fans will always be patient and believe that Manchester United will be better next season. It just takes time for us.

You are right, if the fans are patient enough and stop complaining about the players and coach, I am sure they will surely come back strongly. Manchester United has gotten a better coach, and this season is coming to an end, so I am sure Amorim will like to buy new players next season so that he can rebuild the club again, and any coach likes to try his strategy for his formal club when he comes to a new club, which is why Rashford is not getting playing time on the pitch like when Erik Ten Hag is on the club, am just thinking that Amorim don't like Rashford and probably they will sell him next season, that is what am thinking about.

Chelsea has been buying new players in the team but they didn't usually perform well and they have been changing different coaches but now Chelsea as been in a better shape this season trying to finish in top 4th this season and if they can continue like this I am sure they will win trophies this season, so I still believe in Manchester United because I have always been impressed when playing with big clubs they usually don't lose hope, they perform well, let see next season if Manchester United can build a strong team and win the premier league with Amorim next season, because have seen that this season they can't win it Liverpool are the favorites already.
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Everton sacked their coach three hours before their FA cup game against petersbrough. I think the sack was always come as Everton hasn't been playing brilliantly, their style of play is boring and you can see that they aren't in it to win just to pick up the one point. Now the guys in charge of Everton are looking at getting David Moyes back , I don't know how this would work as David Moyes stepped down as westham coach willingly, but if it works out I think David would bring in lots of changes to the team and we may see lots of improvement.
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Manchester United has been consistently underperforming this season in the Premier League so it is natural for everyone to think that this team might not be able to win any match very easily, but the team is slowly changing i.e. their style of play is changing. If they can keep up their performance in every match like the strong performance they showed against Liverpool then maybe they can continue their winning streak.
Last season Manchester United was also not as we expected, but we still always filled the number of seats at Old Trafford and almost never missed the screen to watch Manchester United play.
Then, last season Liverpool also did not perform well even though this season they got more points than other teams.
Manchester United fans will always be patient and believe that Manchester United will be better next season. It just takes time for us.
Yes, it's all just a matter of time and also the suitability of the coach to be able to make changes. Manchester United have not made significant changes but it can still be said that in a short time Ruben Amorim has made changes even though not many and also still not consistent, but I am sure next season Manchester United can be better and Ruben Amorim will try because it is not easy to build a bad team into a good team in a short time. And the changes are as we saw in the match against Liverpool yesterday, and it was an extraordinary match and Manchester United was able to match Liverpool's aggressive game.

And Liverpool are lucky because they have got the right coach and Arne Slot is really able to turn Liverpool into a very aggressive team that makes the opposing team have difficulty especially in the opponent's defense line and that is what makes Liverpool able to win many points and be at the top of the standings, and besides that Liverpool still has one match that has not been played which makes Liverpool have the opportunity to become champions.
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Manchester United has been consistently underperforming this season in the Premier League so it is natural for everyone to think that this team might not be able to win any match very easily, but the team is slowly changing i.e. their style of play is changing. If they can keep up their performance in every match like the strong performance they showed against Liverpool then maybe they can continue their winning streak.
Last season Manchester United was also not as we expected, but we still always filled the number of seats at Old Trafford and almost never missed the screen to watch Manchester United play.
Then, last season Liverpool also did not perform well even though this season they got more points than other teams.
Manchester United fans will always be patient and believe that Manchester United will be better next season. It just takes time for us.
They availability of Manchester United fans is not as a result of Manchester United performance. Even when Manchester united players are undperforming, fan base does not decrease. This is because Manchester United has organic supporters, and this supporters were groomed to have the Manchester United club as a family which they would stick with even when the club is not performing well. So, it is expected that Manchester United players will still be very active as supporters until the team is well rebuilt.

As for Manchester United performance, I think Armorim is on the mission to make changes in the club and by next season he could do something better.
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Every coach certainly wants to be himself by adopting a playing style that has become his trademark. Amorim cannot be demanded to be Van Nistelrooy or any other coach because he has his own philosophy, it's just that the EPL is more competitive than the Portuguese League which makes it a bit difficult for him at Man United. A draw against Liverpool was quite good in my opinion, because they came to Anfield not as favorites, especially since they had previously lost three consecutive games in the EPL.
Well, the truth is that what he did against Liverpool saves Amorim's reputation a lot. I am clear that no coach should be copied, but it is clear that if a system works then it should be continued, because it is only necessary to perfect it if it gives good results, but if something is working well and then everything is changed for a personal style but risking total relegation, well, it is not good for the team or the club. The case of Liverpool is a clear example, the coach did not leave Klopp's system aside, he followed it and will make his own arrangements and that is why this team is successful today.
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After failing to win their last 5 games, Everton have parted ways with Sean Dyche. Everton, who have only 3 wins in the league this season and are just above the relegation zone, have temporarily brought in U18 coach Leighton Baines. There are many good managers available. Let's see who will be their choice. Everton need to be much higher up the table. I don't think they will be relegated but it's too stressful to even feel the danger.

Yes, Leighton Baines is only an interim coach and that gives Everton time to find a coach with the right criteria who is expected to improve Everton later. The first match for Leighton Baines against Peterborough in the FA Cup which has just started, playing at home should have a chance for Leighton Baines to make Everton get a victory. Considering, Peterborough is also not a team that has the same quality as Everton, so with this difference  in quality makes his job less difficult and also to make good preparations for playing in the Premier League against Aston Villa later. Unfortunately, Everton will get difficult opponents next in the Premier League, and it is a difficult challenge for Leighton Baines despite only being an interim coach.
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Manchester United has been consistently underperforming this season in the Premier League so it is natural for everyone to think that this team might not be able to win any match very easily, but the team is slowly changing i.e. their style of play is changing. If they can keep up their performance in every match like the strong performance they showed against Liverpool then maybe they can continue their winning streak.
Last season Manchester United was also not as we expected, but we still always filled the number of seats at Old Trafford and almost never missed the screen to watch Manchester United play.
Then, last season Liverpool also did not perform well even though this season they got more points than other teams.
Manchester United fans will always be patient and believe that Manchester United will be better next season. It just takes time for us.
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After failing to win their last 5 games, Everton have parted ways with Sean Dyche. Everton, who have only 3 wins in the league this season and are just above the relegation zone, have temporarily brought in U18 coach Leighton Baines. There are many good managers available. Let's see who will be their choice. Everton need to be much higher up the table. I don't think they will be relegated but it's too stressful to even feel the danger.
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i had already predicted that these two games are going to be a very tricky one for them and when i saw the two results, i was not even surprised at all
In the match that Manchester United drew against Liverpool, they performed much better in that match than in other previous matches. Moreover, we sometimes see that Manchester United are able to suddenly perform well against very strong teams. Similarly they have been able to perform well against strong teams like Liverpool.

Manchester United has been consistently underperforming this season in the Premier League so it is natural for everyone to think that this team might not be able to win any match very easily, but the team is slowly changing i.e. their style of play is changing. If they can keep up their performance in every match like the strong performance they showed against Liverpool then maybe they can continue their winning streak.
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