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Quote from: pawel7777 on November 19, 2024, 05:42:35 PM

Things are stacking up nicely for Liverpool, this weekend they are playing an away game against Southampton, who are at the very bottom of the table with only one win and one draw in 11 games. It doesn't get any easier than that.
Meanwhile, their biggest rival, Man City will be desperate for a win over Tottenham after the horrible 4 matches losing streak. It may not be easy though, Tottenham is not doing that well in the league (10th place) but can be very dangerous. In their last game three weeks ago, Man City got beaten 2-1 in the EFL Cup game which marked the beginning of that 4 losses run.
A similar thing with Arsenal, they haven't won any of their last 3 games and have something to prove, but they're facing Nottm Forest, who are the dark horse of this season, so anything can happen.

Southampton should be an easy opponent for Liverpool. It’s an important match match for Liverpool because they would want to secure a win to solidify their status as the title favorites. Manchester City will be eager to bounce back from a loosing streak of four matches when they face Tottenham Hotspur. Although Tottenham recently deleted then in the EFL Cup, I don't think they will be able to defeat City again. Pep and his boys are hungry for a win in the encounter and I believe they will get it.

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Quote from: junder on November 22, 2024, 12:14:05 PM

I am still optimistic that Man City can beat Tottenham even though they were previously defeated in the Carabao Cup. The Premier League competition is very different, Guardiola's troops must not make the same mistakes, they must ensure that the 3 points can really be secured at the Etihad stadium later, that is also to catch up on the points behind Liverpool if they still want to compete in the hunt for the championship title, besides that Tottenham has not been in their best form until the 11th week they are still in 10th position in the standings, this is another reason that makes The Citizen have a big chance.

In terms of the quality of Man City players, there is no doubt that Man City has a great chance of winning and statistically Man City also has little chance of winning.
But if you look at the odds provided by the bookie, it seems that the best result is that Man City will succeed with a thin winning score or the worst result is a draw.
If anyone wants to bet on this match it will be better to choose BTTS for a more comfortable or over 2.5 option.
Both of these teams will be the same as scoring and producing 3 or more scores.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on November 22, 2024, 03:31:28 PM

Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on November 22, 2024, 02:50:35 PM

We are starting the week with my beloved Chelsea's game tomorrow.

They are facing Leicester away.

The odds are 1.46 for Chelsea win. It is good to add into a parlay first of all. The only issue is that maybe people might not trust them as much as me after they have lost quite many points recently. In fact this is a reason why I want to believe in them here. A good chance to finish the bad streak. While Leicester are having a tough season I hope Chelsea will not make a mistake this time. May Cole Palmer be on his good day also! Grin

Chelsea can easily beat Leicester city, but let me not try to underrate Leicester anyway, but then, speaking based on analysis and club performance in this premier league season, I believe you understand that Chelsea did not arrive in the third place in the league table by just sitting and folding hands, they actually have worked really hard by trying to improve their gameplay this season compared to the last two seasons.

If at all I was or will be putting up a bet on this game, i will gladly with confidence, bet on Chelsea to win the match.
But if actually in the end, they lost, then it's their shame really, because they might just be giving Arsenal the chance to get ahead of them, seeing that currently, both Chelsea and Arsenal are equal in points.

In the EPL, no team should be underestimated cause even the underdogs sometimes can be very hard to defeat they'll frustrate bigger teams to a draw match and sometimes when the bigger teams slack you'll see those underdogs defeat them just like it happened to Manchester City and Tottenham before the International break, the Premier League is very tough and as a big team you ought to be at the very best to be able to participate in European competitions, the EPL is not a team where you put in little effort cause if you do that you'll lose, for instance Manchester United, take a look at where they're on the table, it's cause they were not really serious and underestimated most of those underdogs when the league started. However, Chelsea are the favourites to win the game regardless, they were in good shape before the International break and I believe they'll be careful not to lose against Leicester City.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on November 22, 2024, 02:50:35 PM

We are starting the week with my beloved Chelsea's game tomorrow.

They are facing Leicester away.

The odds are 1.46 for Chelsea win. It is good to add into a parlay first of all. The only issue is that maybe people might not trust them as much as me after they have lost quite many points recently. In fact this is a reason why I want to believe in them here. A good chance to finish the bad streak. While Leicester are having a tough season I hope Chelsea will not make a mistake this time. May Cole Palmer be on his good day also! Grin

Chelsea can easily beat Leicester city, but let me not try to underrate Leicester anyway, but then, speaking based on analysis and club performance in this premier league season, I believe you understand that Chelsea did not arrive in the third place in the league table by just sitting and folding hands, they actually have worked really hard by trying to improve their gameplay this season compared to the last two seasons.

If at all I was or will be putting up a bet on this game, i will gladly with confidence, bet on Chelsea to win the match.
But if actually in the end, they lost, then it's their shame really, because they might just be giving Arsenal the chance to get ahead of them, seeing that currently, both Chelsea and Arsenal are equal in points.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on November 22, 2024, 11:22:41 AM

I don't think Tottenham will win either, but Man City fans expect nothing less than a win. Split of points would also be seen as Guardiola's and his team failure and the pressure for improvement will be growing.
Personally I think they should keep calm and do their thing and things should improve with minor tweaks. The team is tried and tested and it's not like they forgot how to play football all of a sudden.

Plus, Tottenham has a lot of players lost to injury as well, so while City might be losing some, they are playing against someone who is on the same way, so Tottenham can't be really considering a win here. We have just recently seen them lose to Galatasaray, which is why I believe we are going to end up with City win here, shouldn't be that much of a trouble and could definitely give them a great return as well.

I personally believe we are going to see too much changing here, City with new contract to Pep means that we are going to see Pep double down on his strategy, we may see a very boring game, and like 80% ball possession for Pep, but I am sure that we are going to see them play well enough to win the game without a doubt.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on November 22, 2024, 02:50:35 PM

We are starting the week with my beloved Chelsea's game tomorrow.

They are facing Leicester away.

The odds are 1.46 for Chelsea win. It is good to add into a parlay first of all. The only issue is that maybe people might not trust them as much as me after they have lost quite many points recently. In fact this is a reason why I want to believe in them here. A good chance to finish the bad streak. While Leicester are having a tough season I hope Chelsea will not make a mistake this time. May Cole Palmer be on his good day also! Grin

I am very happy that the international brake is over, and our favorite Premier League games will resume tomorrow; no more boring weekend.

Chelsea will have the opportunity to start the week with winning if they played based on their standard before the international brake. Chelsea have the high chance and opportunity of defeating Leicester City because Leicester City is not in good form this season; while Chelsea will want to make it possible to win any match that come their way so that they can keep aiming for the Premier League title because as it stands, they have the same points with Arsenal and were just four points behind Manchester City.

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Trying to figure out how United will do this week, it is going to be a big one without a doubt. They are playing Ipswhich town, which isn't a big team at all, they are barely out of relegation zone and I believe that's going to be the point of this game, Amorim will be having his first ever game right? That means we are talking about something fresh, and that should be a good result because why would you change your coach if you are not expecting an improvement.

So, with a bad team against them, and a new coach for them, United is prosed to win this game without a doubt, they are looking like they have a good chance and it should not be a big deal. Betting on them to win this one could actually be a great improvement without a doubt. I believe the bet could also include some goals, like maybe they could score bunch of goals too? Not sure if they will be that good yet, I mean they will be good, but does it look like a 3-4 goals from United to you? Not sure about that part yet.

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We are starting the week with my beloved Chelsea's game tomorrow.

They are facing Leicester away.

The odds are 1.46 for Chelsea win. It is good to add into a parlay first of all. The only issue is that maybe people might not trust them as much as me after they have lost quite many points recently. In fact this is a reason why I want to believe in them here. A good chance to finish the bad streak. While Leicester are having a tough season I hope Chelsea will not make a mistake this time. May Cole Palmer be on his good day also! Grin

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Quote from: pawel7777 on November 21, 2024, 05:39:43 PM

Here are the full fixtures for this weekend together with the odds (by duelbits) for the Matchday 12:

The one that interests me the most is Man City Vs Tottenham. There's a lot of pressure on Pep Guardiola to win this one and prove that the 4-games losing streak was just a temporary flop and things will go back to normal.

It's also a debut for Ruben Amorim who will lead Man United in an away game against Ipswich. The team's morale seemed to improve under the interim management of Ruud Van Nistelroy so I expect a win for United.

In my opinion, this odd in favor of Manchester City is very low considering that Manchester City are not doing as well as in the past, in these last games they have been doing badly. It is true that injuries may be the cause of Manchester City's decline in performance and the current news indicates that most of Manchester City's good players have already recovered and are ready to play against Tottenham. But even so, I see this game as being a difficult game for both teams and that we could see a draw, which is why in my opinion they should put an odd of @2.00 in favor of Manchester City.

About Manchester United, the coach is still new to the team, I don't expect a good performance right away, that's why they can win because they will be playing against a very weak opponent, but they won't be playing well yet, in my opinion the squad needs to be improved too.

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Quote from: junder on November 22, 2024, 12:14:05 PM

Quote from: Zackz5000 on November 22, 2024, 10:09:58 AM

That Manchester City lost 4 game in row doesn't mean they can't loss again against Tottenham if they fail to perform well, it is going to be a tough game against both side for me there is no favorite side to win this game.
But it won't be a good record for pep Guardiola and Manchester City if they fail to win or draw against Tottenham I think that will be the end of their tittle hope this season.

I am still optimistic that Man City can beat Tottenham even though they were previously defeated in the Carabao Cup. The Premier League competition is very different, Guardiola's troops must not make the same mistakes, they must ensure that the 3 points can really be secured at the Etihad stadium later, that is also to catch up on the points behind Liverpool if they still want to compete in the hunt for the championship title, besides that Tottenham has not been in their best form until the 11th week they are still in 10th position in the standings, this is another reason that makes The Citizen have a big chance.

This will be a very humiliating situation on city's side if it happens that they lose to Tottenham at home soil, Manchester City have had difficulty in getting a win in their recent Premier League games, The injury on some of their key players has actually contributed in their poor performance, but I doubt if Guardiola would let Tottenham defeat them in encounter knowing fully well that they've not obtained maximum of points in their last few matches, especially playing host of this match.

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Quote from: Zackz5000 on November 22, 2024, 10:09:58 AM

That Manchester City lost 4 game in row doesn't mean they can't loss again against Tottenham if they fail to perform well, it is going to be a tough game against both side for me there is no favorite side to win this game.
But it won't be a good record for pep Guardiola and Manchester City if they fail to win or draw against Tottenham I think that will be the end of their tittle hope this season.

I am still optimistic that Man City can beat Tottenham even though they were previously defeated in the Carabao Cup. The Premier League competition is very different, Guardiola's troops must not make the same mistakes, they must ensure that the 3 points can really be secured at the Etihad stadium later, that is also to catch up on the points behind Liverpool if they still want to compete in the hunt for the championship title, besides that Tottenham has not been in their best form until the 11th week they are still in 10th position in the standings, this is another reason that makes The Citizen have a big chance.

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Quote from: hyudien on November 22, 2024, 08:12:03 AM

Quote from: HajiBagi on November 22, 2024, 05:16:42 AM

The game of Manchester United against Ipswich is very clear that anyone can predict the match, Manchester United is the favorite to win the match, Manchester United's performance in the last matches was very good and having a new coach will improve the players to be very serious and be hungry of winning matches, Ipswich is not that team that is capable to defeat Manchester United so I see Manchester United as the favorite to win the match.

Ipswich is not a strong team so I am optimistic that this match can be a good match for Amorim to start his first win with Man United. There are so many tactical things that are very different from Amorim, he will change the formation of the Man United players and start relying on some players who were rarely noticed by the previous coach. Rasmus Hojlund is expected to be a successful striker in Amorim hands because we know that since being in Erik Ten Hag hands this player has played below standard.

The match will be the first test for amorim in coaching manchester united, but I think it is likely that the match will be able to be won easily by them considering ipswich town's current performance is very bad with only 1 win so far this season, although maybe amorim has not been able to optimise the performance of his squad since he has just served as coach, but I think they can still win the match considering the quality of the two teams that are very different at this time, the quality of the squad owned by manchester united allows them to be able to win the match although Ipswich town has a solid team so far.

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Quote from: HajiBagi on November 22, 2024, 05:16:42 AM

Manchester City's game against Tottenham is going to be tough because both team's performances this season was not that good in their last match against each other in Carabao Tottenham defeated Manchester City which made Manchester City Eliminate from the Carabao Cup League, but in this match I don't think Tottenham is going to defeat Manchester City, Manchester City lost their last 4 games in a row and I don't think Pep Guardiola will want that to repeat itself.

I don't think Tottenham will win either, but Man City fans expect nothing less than a win. Split of points would also be seen as Guardiola's and his team failure and the pressure for improvement will be growing.
Personally I think they should keep calm and do their thing and things should improve with minor tweaks. The team is tried and tested and it's not like they forgot how to play football all of a sudden.

Quote from: HajiBagi on November 22, 2024, 05:16:42 AM

The game of Manchester United against Ipswich is very clear that anyone can predict the match, Manchester United is the favorite to win the match, Manchester United's performance in the last matches was very good and having a new coach will improve the players to be very serious and be hungry of winning matches, Ipswich is not that team that is capable to defeat Manchester United so I see Manchester United as the favorite to win the match.

Of course each United's player will be extra motivated to present themselves from the best side to the new manager, but there's always a risk of something not clicking right when new manager leads the team for the first time, e.g. when doesn't yet know the players or tries to implement a new formation.

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Quote from: Zackz5000 on November 22, 2024, 10:09:58 AM

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That Manchester City lost 4 game in row doesn't mean they can't loss again against Tottenham if they fail to perform well, it is going to be a tough game against both side for me there is no favorite side to win this game.
But it won't be a good record for pep Guardiola and Manchester City if they fail to win or draw against Tottenham I think that will be the end of their tittle hope this season.

No doubt Manchester United will surely win against Ipswich but some times football can be funny too though I won't be surprise if Ipswich wins Manchester United because that is football unimaginable things do happen in football but I believe the new Manchester United couch will want to prove him self that he is the right person to couch Manchester United as he wouldn't want to start his first game with a draw or loss to a team such as Ipswich town.

at this time both teams are experiencing the same problem, namely player injuries, man city has 8 lists of injured players, namely. ruben dias, O. Bobb, Rodri, J. Doku, matheus luiz, J. Simpson, o'reilly and N. Ake. While tottenham has 5 lists of injured players including, Van de ven, M. Moore, richarlison, P. sarr, and W. Odobert not to mention Bentancur who cannot play due to card accumulation. And this is what caused both teams to perform poorly in several matches resulting in defeat.

Now both teams must try to maximize existing resources, and stay focused on team strategy. On the one hand this can provide an opportunity for players who have so far received little playing time, so they can show their quality, but on the other hand this is also a fairly difficult challenge because they have to adapt to changing situations.

and with the team conditions being almost the same, it is difficult to predict who will be the winner in this match.

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Quote from: HajiBagi on November 22, 2024, 05:16:42 AM

Quote from: pawel7777 on November 21, 2024, 05:39:43 PM

Here are the full fixtures for this weekend together with the odds (by duelbits) for the Matchday 12:

The one that interests me the most is Man City Vs Tottenham. There's a lot of pressure on Pep Guardiola to win this one and prove that the 4-games losing streak was just a temporary flop and things will go back to normal.

It's also a debut for Ruben Amorim who will lead Man United in an away game against Ipswich. The team's morale seemed to improve under the interim management of Ruud Van Nistelroy so I expect a win for United.

Manchester City's game against Tottenham is going to be tough because both team's performances this season was not that good in their last match against each other in Carabao Tottenham defeated Manchester City which made Manchester City Eliminate from the Carabao Cup League, but in this match I don't think Tottenham is going to defeat Manchester City, Manchester City lost their last 4 games in a row and I don't think Pep Guardiola will want that to repeat itself.

The game of Manchester United against Ipswich is very clear that anyone can predict the match, Manchester United is the favorite to win the match, Manchester United's performance in the last matches was very good and having a new coach will improve the players to be very serious and be hungry of winning matches, Ipswich is not that team that is capable to defeat Manchester United so I see Manchester United as the favorite to win the match.

That Manchester City lost 4 game in row doesn't mean they can't loss again against Tottenham if they fail to perform well, it is going to be a tough game against both side for me there is no favorite side to win this game.
But it won't be a good record for pep Guardiola and Manchester City if they fail to win or draw against Tottenham I think that will be the end of their tittle hope this season.

No doubt Manchester United will surely win against Ipswich but some times football can be funny too though I won't be surprise if Ipswich wins Manchester United because that is football unimaginable things do happen in football but I believe the new Manchester United couch will want to prove him self that he is the right person to couch Manchester United as he wouldn't want to start his first game with a draw or loss to a team such as Ipswich town.

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Quote from: hyudien on November 22, 2024, 08:12:03 AM

Ipswich is not a strong team so I am optimistic that this match can be a good match for Amorim to start his first win with Man United. There are so many tactical things that are very different from Amorim, he will change the formation of the Man United players and start relying on some players who were rarely noticed by the previous coach. Rasmus Hojlund is expected to be a successful striker in Amorim hands because we know that since being in Erik Ten Hag hands this player has played below standard.

Ipswich shockingly beat Tottenham the last time and they did it even away. Sad

However of course this doesn't mean they are normally a strong team. It was their first win of the season so far.

This might give them extra motivation of course but I don't think they will be winning this time. I hope Manchester United to have a good start with Ruben Amorim. I know it is going to be his first game with the team. He will need time to find the best strategy as well. But I expect the players to be more ambitious. After manager changes we see it very often no matter what that team is. That's why I expect a decent win by the Red Devils.

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Quote from: HajiBagi on November 22, 2024, 05:16:42 AM

The game of Manchester United against Ipswich is very clear that anyone can predict the match, Manchester United is the favorite to win the match, Manchester United's performance in the last matches was very good and having a new coach will improve the players to be very serious and be hungry of winning matches, Ipswich is not that team that is capable to defeat Manchester United so I see Manchester United as the favorite to win the match.

Ipswich is not a strong team so I am optimistic that this match can be a good match for Amorim to start his first win with Man United. There are so many tactical things that are very different from Amorim, he will change the formation of the Man United players and start relying on some players who were rarely noticed by the previous coach. Rasmus Hojlund is expected to be a successful striker in Amorim hands because we know that since being in Erik Ten Hag hands this player has played below standard.

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Quote from: mamesso on November 16, 2024, 09:25:22 PM

He has done it after successfully leading Man City to win the EPL trophy for four consecutive seasons, he has established himself as the only coach who has managed to dominate the EPL for four seasons, in my opinion this record is very difficult for other coaches to catch up. This season he began to have difficulty maintaining Man City performance due to several key players being injured, this condition was made worse by Liverpool increasing performance since being handled by Arne Slot. I am very skeptical that he can retain the title for five consecutive seasons, as you can see now, Man City performance is very bad in the last four games in all competitions.

You're right, your logic is very accurate, but we're talking about a very good team and a coach who is a very good strategist, for me City can recover at any moment and can be unbeatable, right now Liverpool is doing well, but they have to seize the good moment before waking up the lion, because once this team wakes up it will be a steamroller, for now I think things can be like that, remember that now MU is also recovering and they are doing things very well, I think many teams run with that way of being in crisis during the season.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on November 21, 2024, 05:39:43 PM

Here are the full fixtures for this weekend together with the odds (by duelbits) for the Matchday 12:

The one that interests me the most is Man City Vs Tottenham. There's a lot of pressure on Pep Guardiola to win this one and prove that the 4-games losing streak was just a temporary flop and things will go back to normal.

It's also a debut for Ruben Amorim who will lead Man United in an away game against Ipswich. The team's morale seemed to improve under the interim management of Ruud Van Nistelroy so I expect a win for United.

Manchester City's game against Tottenham is going to be tough because both team's performances this season was not that good in their last match against each other in Carabao Tottenham defeated Manchester City which made Manchester City Eliminate from the Carabao Cup League, but in this match I don't think Tottenham is going to defeat Manchester City, Manchester City lost their last 4 games in a row and I don't think Pep Guardiola will want that to repeat itself.

The game of Manchester United against Ipswich is very clear that anyone can predict the match, Manchester United is the favorite to win the match, Manchester United's performance in the last matches was very good and having a new coach will improve the players to be very serious and be hungry of winning matches, Ipswich is not that team that is capable to defeat Manchester United so I see Manchester United as the favorite to win the match.

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Quote from: AprilioMP on November 21, 2024, 11:52:19 PM

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Liverpool has surpassed my expectations, I didn’t imagine they would be currently occupying the top spot in the league this season. Although the point difference is just 5 points, their performance so far have been impressive. Manchester City are surprisingly lagging behind, and with the inconsistency of teams likes Arsenal, Tottenham and Chelsea, Liverpool have positioned themselves as title favorites this season. Liverpool have a strong chance of winning the league this season but only if they can maintain this momentum and avoid any setback.

If I monitor Manchester City and am a little surprised by their performance lately this season at least until the 11th round.
Liverpool's performance is beyond what I thought also with the intention that they will not be like Manchester City because Liverpool this season is no longer with Jurgen Klopp, but Arne Slot has been able to maintain a level of team stability that is almost perfect.
The difference between Manchester City and Liverpool at this time with 5 points is not difficult for Pep Guardiola to catch up. At least their current position can still make Liverpool not safe in 1st place in the standings. This means that the English Premier League is still in a shifting position.

Man city's performance lately has been a bit disappointing we would not have expected them to get bad results from 4 matches in all competitions but I do not 100% blame pep guardiola important players who are injured are also an important factor causing all of that, on the other hand liverpool so far have had pleasant days the positive trend they have done has paid off so that they have managed to occupy the top position in the premier league and UCL competition. The progress shown by liverpool is an important warning for man city that this season they must not make the slightest mistake and immediately fix what is wrong in their squad, because it is not impossible that the 5 point difference for now could be wider again in the coming weeks.

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