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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on October 20, 2024, 12:03:51 AM

Quote from: Docnaster on October 19, 2024, 06:06:36 PM

Against all odds, Erik ten Hag's Manchester United came from a goal down to claim all three points against Brentford even when many had already written them off after they conceded a goal the stoppage time of the first half. Just like the headline in the picture you uploaded, Matthijs de Ligt was the hero of the day with his outstanding performance that saw him pick up an injury in the head. The Dutch defender have been at the heart of Manchester United defense since he joined the club in the summer and if he can continue to be this effective in the team, he'll be a great asset for the club

Against all odds like I have always said, I want Erik ten Hag to remain as the manager that restored Manchester United since the retirement of Erik ten Hag. I don't need nobody to tell me how much of a great manager Erik ten Hag has been over the past few years. Even before the game, I was convinced they was going to get the win. One more thing I need him to do is the start a four man midfielders which comprises of Ugarte, Casemiro, Bruno Fernandes and Eriksen. A three man back and then three upfront. Manchester United won but a club with pacy midfielders would have outplayed Manchester United yesterday. Glad to see the win in between.

Well I believe that the tune of your voice would have changed if Manchester united had lost the game yesterday, am saying so because people aren't consistent, though it's very much common nowadays in football that if you do well, you will be praised and if you don't do well you will be criticized, and on a sincere note, the Manchester united team deserved some praised yesterday for such a performance, even when they lost the first halve, they still came back and win the game in the second half in a convincing manner, actually they really tried.

Then for Eric ten hang, though am not a fan of Manchester united, but looking at his performance as the manager of Manchester united, bro he hasn't done well considering how much he has spent since he came into the club, because to whom much is given much is also expected, and Eric ten hang hasn't lived up to his responsibilities as the coach of Manchester united, a team like Manchester united shouldn't be struggling as they are doing currently, they should be much more better than this.

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Quote from: Docnaster on October 19, 2024, 06:06:36 PM

Against all odds, Erik ten Hag's Manchester United came from a goal down to claim all three points against Brentford even when many had already written them off after they conceded a goal the stoppage time of the first half. Just like the headline in the picture you uploaded, Matthijs de Ligt was the hero of the day with his outstanding performance that saw him pick up an injury in the head. The Dutch defender have been at the heart of Manchester United defense since he joined the club in the summer and if he can continue to be this effective in the team, he'll be a great asset for the club

Against all odds like I have always said, I want Erik ten Hag to remain as the manager that restored Manchester United since the retirement of Erik ten Hag. I don't need nobody to tell me how much of a great manager Erik ten Hag has been over the past few years. Even before the game, I was convinced they was going to get the win. One more thing I need him to do is the start a four man midfielders which comprises of Ugarte, Casemiro, Bruno Fernandes and Eriksen. A three man back and then three upfront. Manchester United won but a club with pacy midfielders would have outplayed Manchester United yesterday. Glad to see the win in between.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on October 19, 2024, 05:00:05 PM

Quote from: Charles-Tim on October 19, 2024, 02:12:51 PM

I was surprised to see Bournemouth won with 2 goals. William Saliba got a red card in 30 minutes and he is a defender. 10 men against 11 is not easy at all. There are times the team can be so good that the opponent will not win but Arsenal lost the match this time. There is still hope if Arsenal continue to play good but I just know that something might again hinder Arsenal this season. I wish the club can win the league once again but something will always happen that will hinder it from happening.

Arteta needs to talk to the players because they have been getting a lot of red cards lately, luckily for them they have not been severely punished for picking red cards early in games. Delan Rice picked a red card against Brighton and managed to get a draw; Trossard got a red card against Manchester City and drew that game 2-2; today it’s Saliba’s turn to pick a red card. William Saliba is a crucial part of Arsenal’s defense, and with Odegaard and Saka absent in the game, the odds were already stacked against them.

Arsenal's players were too arrogant. They always made the same mistake. I expect more red cards if they keep playing the same way. They should have learned from their previous mistakes. They should be calmer. They looked different than last season.

It looked like Arsenal players forgot their roles on the pitch. There was no organization among them. They had zero creativity after they had no key players play for them.

They look genuinely awful even before the red. They must address this as soon as possible to ensure they're still having chance to compete for the title.

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Quote from: Ondekinecakabilirim on October 19, 2024, 06:26:34 AM

There are 7 matches today in the Premier League. The first match of the day will be between Tottenham and West Ham. Tottenham suffered a very unfortunate defeat last week away to Brighton. They led 0-2 at half-time that match. But they lost 3-2 that match. On the other hand, West Ham have only two wins this season in the Premier League. But one of them came last week when they beat Ispwich Town 4-1. Neither team has had balanced results in recent weeks. But I think Tottenham will be the favorites in this match.

It's really hard to tell when a team is going to perform well in the Premier League. West Ham have been performing well recently and they beat Bayern Munich in the Champions League match but they lost by a huge margin in their last match against Tottenham. Against Tottenham they conceded four goals in contrast they managed just one second. West Ham may always praise their goalkeeper and the goalkeeper is certainly one of the most reliable players in their team but this goalkeeper did not do well against Tottenham. After winning the last match, Tottenham moved to the seventh position in the points table and this is definitely a positive point for them.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on October 19, 2024, 05:00:05 PM

Arteta needs to talk to the players because they have been getting a lot of red cards lately, luckily for them they have not been severely punished for picking red cards early in games. Delan Rice picked a red card against Brighton and managed to get a draw; Trossard got a red card against Manchester City and drew that game 2-2; today it’s Saliba’s turn to pick a red card. William Saliba is a crucial part of Arsenal’s defense, and with Odegaard and Saka absent in the game, the odds were already stacked against them.

Maybe because they are too enthusiastic to hold the top stand and forget how to play well. Arsenal is look ambition to get the win on Bournemouth home and use various methods to get it, but they because use a dirty technique that make mistake which is detrimental to themselves. Yes I agree with you, Arteta must talk to all player to take easy to control their emotions on the fields. This is the big problem for Arsenal, because they was collect 3 red card this session and and become the team with the most red card at the moment.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on October 19, 2024, 05:29:27 PM

Quote from: Palakka on October 19, 2024, 11:30:45 AM

that Brentford was able to create, but indeed the poor finishing actually made Onana goal safe throughout the match, Hojlund goal in the 62nd minute finally made Manchester United win 2-1 over Brentford and made them while has risen to 10th place in the Premier League standings today.

De Ligt Became the Hero of Manchester United's victory today with his bloody struggle.

Against all odds, Erik ten Hag's Manchester United cake from a goal down to claim all three points against Brentford even when many had already written them off after they conceded a goal the stoppage time of the first half. Just like the headline in the picture you uploaded, Matthijs de Ligt was the hero of the day with his outstanding performance that saw him pick up an injury in the head. The Dutch defender have been at the heart of Manchester United defense since he joined the club in the summer and if he can continue to be this effective in the team, he'll be a great asset for the club

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Quote from: len01 on October 19, 2024, 04:03:42 PM

Quote from: skarais on October 19, 2024, 01:27:49 PM

......The red card has clearly ruined all of Arteta's plans for this match, so they really need to make up for it in another match.

Like an unfair and very disappointing match seeing my bet losing. Undecided

Even though at first I thought when William Saliba got a red card, at least Arsenal could hold the match draw and preferred to survive. But unfortunately this is what I don't like from Arsenal always has a big ambition to continue to ambitious to get victory without seeing the condition of the team that ends with mistakes.

This was a very sad and disappointing defeat. They had tried very well at the beginning of the match, it's just that the red card really ruined everything. and Arsenal couldn't keep their goal from Bournemouth's goal attack 2x.

Source: Mikel Arteta interview after match

Arteta also realized their weaknesses and shortcomings during the match, he admitted that they actually had chances, but missed the chances. and there were some errors made. Now, they're in the third position of the standing.

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Quote from: Palakka on October 19, 2024, 11:30:45 AM

that Brentford was able to create, but indeed the poor finishing actually made Onana goal safe throughout the match, Hojlund goal in the 62nd minute finally made Manchester United win 2-1 over Brentford and made them while has risen to 10th place in the Premier League standings today.

De Ligt Became the Hero of Manchester United's victory today with his bloody struggle.

Did anyone notice how Lisandro Martinez pocketed Mbeumo? He was so great at left fullback role , not for too long. Diego Dalot had some tactical upgrade and genius today I must say. Erik ten Hag should maybe pair De Ligt and Jonhhy together because I feel like they'll.ake this make sense.
I've never given Marcus Rashford credits this season, but I do think that he deserves all the highest praises right now. De Ligt was outstanding as he was brilliant on the ball and also off the ball. I don't know if he was handed but man need to rest..

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Quote from: Charles-Tim on October 19, 2024, 02:12:51 PM

I was surprised to see Bournemouth won with 2 goals. William Saliba got a red card in 30 minutes and he is a defender. 10 men against 11 is not easy at all. There are times the team can be so good that the opponent will not win but Arsenal lost the match this time. There is still hope if Arsenal continue to play good but I just know that something might again hinder Arsenal this season. I wish the club can win the league once again but something will always happen that will hinder it from happening.

Arteta needs to talk to the players because they have been getting a lot of red cards lately, luckily for them they have not been severely punished for picking red cards early in games. Delan Rice picked a red card against Brighton and managed to get a draw; Trossard got a red card against Manchester City and drew that game 2-2; today it’s Saliba’s turn to pick a red card. William Saliba is a crucial part of Arsenal’s defense, and with Odegaard and Saka absent in the game, the odds were already stacked against them.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on October 19, 2024, 04:27:58 PM

So the biggest shocker of today's round is Man United finally winning a game Grin

The win might have been minimal, but they actually could create decent chances, so there was some progress in the attack, but the opponent was not of the highest level. Anyhow, this could be a lifeline for Ten Hag in keeping his position.

The other surprise was Arsenal losing 2-0 to Bournemouth, mostly due to Salibe being sent of for tactical foul in the 30th minute of the game. I believe the referee decision (made after consultations) was in line with the rule, but given how far away from the goal the situation took place, the yellow card could have been sufficient.

An easy game for Man City tomorrow (Vs Wolves who only scored 1 point in this season so far) and a potentially tough game for Liverpool who are hosting Chelsea. So there's a chance MAn City will jump back up to the 1st place.

Very surprising, I expected another draw or an embarrassing lose again but I think the players mght have heard enough complains from the fans and decided to put a smile on their faces, there's no Manchester United fan that's not currently happy or discussing about the outcome of this victory somewhere right now and it's understandable cause they've been longing for such good performance from their team even though it was against Brentford. I don't know what Erik Ten Hag told those players today in the dressing room but i think he needs to keep it up cause if they can remain consistent for a longer period it would not only elevate them on the standings bur also boost the teams morale. Also, Manchester United lost many chances so I think they should work more on their conversion rate. As for Arsenal, they have received their own share of a red card and defeat, it's surprising to everyone but they should understand that the impossible is sometimes possible in football, that's just it. Manchester City would win easily against Wolverhampton but I think Chelsea would give Liverpool a tough game tomorrow.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on October 19, 2024, 02:51:06 PM

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on October 19, 2024, 12:39:59 PM

I was once again like "Ah shit, here we go again." about Manchester United at first. However they made a really nice comeback. Good for them and Erik ten Hag especially! Because you know he is like the most debated coach in the recent times. Tongue

It must be tough to handle such pressure.

He has always been confident about his job for quite a while. We will see about that. It is really assertive for a coach in his 3rd year without a PL title.

Even before the goal Manchester United players did well, they played better and did well to take control of the game during the first half. I'm blaming both the medical team and the official for the goal scored by Brentford United. The medical team should have provided a long term solution for the bleeding while the match official should have just let De Ligt on the pitch until the first half comes to an end. ( Finally I get his decision, Health First ). Newcastle United coach has also been fumbling but not being talked about and the same with West Ham. It's either they dislike Erik ten Hag or they dislike Manchester Uniteds success. Today, I'm giving Marcus Rashford and Garnacho his flowers. A striker who can convert chances would definitely solve 90% of them issues.

Even if Manchester United coach has found it difficult to get the desired result expected of him, we can see that his team is playing some kind of good football this season than last season. Also knowing too well that Manchester United has improved her team this season is a stepping stone to confidence of good performance. Let's believe ETH knows what he is doing, even if we have our doubts.
It is not time to judge, but let's see how Manchester United will be able to escape their shameful position in the table this season.

Why do we only call out Ten Hag, even if the results of the team lies on him, win or no win but from what we see in the team including from previous season, not every fault is coming from the manager. If we can count how many opportunities the players are failing to convert during their games then we know that the missed chances is enough to send them up the table and the coach isn't whom to be blamed. Quality chances was missed today, even the substitute that came in could not add any value to their current state, Zirkzee in particular could not hold the ball confidently on his feet, very bad performance from the team today despite their win.

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Quote from: bangjoe on October 19, 2024, 02:27:37 PM

Quote from: aylabadia05 on October 18, 2024, 04:21:01 PM

In addition to the problems that exist in Manchester United regarding the players who have been brought in, do not provide a large impact to Real Madrdi so far, also a number of other things that need to be improved at Man United that I feel a lot of work is messy at Man United, I think Zidane will also be made exhausted with the current state of Man United, he certainly needs time to restructure Man United to perform better, his heavy burden must be a lot of expectations from fans of new coaches, and that is not an easy thing to do to be able to make Man United Changed in one night.

I don't think we're talking about Real Madrid here, but you failed to focus when maybe you were watching the Celta vs Madrid match some time ago. Ah forget it, but you have to fix it so it's not misleading.

Manchester United's victory today made me happy. This was a long-awaited victory after they had gone quite a number of games without a win. I checked again and found Manchester United had failed to win in their previous five games, so this was a win that broke a bad trend so far. I expected more from the appearance of the existing squad, but it feels like Ten Hag failed to do its job.

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So the biggest shocker of today's round is Man United finally winning a game Grin

The win might have been minimal, but they actually could create decent chances, so there was some progress in the attack, but the opponent was not of the highest level. Anyhow, this could be a lifeline for Ten Hag in keeping his position.

The other surprise was Arsenal losing 2-0 to Bournemouth, mostly due to Salibe being sent of for tactical foul in the 30th minute of the game. I believe the referee decision (made after consultations) was in line with the rule, but given how far away from the goal the situation took place, the yellow card could have been sufficient.

An easy game for Man City tomorrow (Vs Wolves who only scored 1 point in this season so far) and a potentially tough game for Liverpool who are hosting Chelsea. So there's a chance MAn City will jump back up to the 1st place.

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Quote from: skarais on October 19, 2024, 01:53:31 PM

Things become difficult for a coach and players when they only have 10 players on the field.
Bournemouth managed to develop their game and take advantage of Arsenal's weaknesses in the second half, the first goal was truly charming. This was a defeat that Arsenal couldn't help but accept, but I wouldn't say they were completely bad.

In my opinion, this is not because Arsenal don't have a winning mentality, but they are less effective with their strategy when only playing with 10 players. Bournemouth pressed well and forced Arsenal into mistakes for the second goal. But it's true, there are still many matches ahead that Arsenal can maximize to win points and get back on track for the title race.

There is no way Arsenal was going to win that match despite the fact that Bournemouth isn't on form this season, this is clearly a god advantage for them and they use the generosity to clear thier 3 points on the table. I feel down because I think we are already losing the war already, no way Arsenal is going to win this league because the thing is getting difficult every day as we give it a trail, the first season of Arteta was better than the second and better than this one.

This is their second time of having red card in a match this season, the last one they had against Manchester City could have been 3 points but because of the red card, they had to switch to defending style to balance the team and Manchester City were able to equalized the goal they made initially and now to this again, this is going to be very tough for Arsenal.

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After the International break, you can always expect to see interesting results when the Premier League returns to your screens. Today’s games were entertaining to watch. Arsenal losing to Bournemouth was a big surprise, the Gunners have been in very good form this season and have solidified themselves as contenders for the title, the last thing I would expect from them is to lose 2 nil to Bournemouth. Manchester United fought their way back from a poor first half to score two and winning the game. What do you think about the games played today?

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Quote from: skarais on October 19, 2024, 01:27:49 PM

Seriously, did you realize that Arsenal are now 2-0 behind Bournemouth?
Arsenal played with 10 men since William Saliba was sent off with a red card in the 30th minute of the first half, but Bournemouth's two goals came in the 70th and 79th minutes of the second half. It's surprising because we all basically favor Arsenal to win this away match. The red card has clearly ruined all of Arteta's plans for this match, so they really need to make up for it in another match.

Like an unfair and very disappointing match seeing my bet losing. Undecided

Even though at first I thought when William Saliba got a red card, at least Arsenal could hold the match draw and preferred to survive. But unfortunately this is what I don't like from Arsenal always has a big ambition to continue to ambitious to get victory without seeing the condition of the team that ends with mistakes.
We see how Mikel Merino gets a very good chance but he wants to score too quickly but ended with failed.
If only Mikel Merino could score a score and defense players did not make mistakes, I was sure he could end up a draw.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on October 19, 2024, 02:51:06 PM

Even if Manchester United coach has found it difficult to get the desired result expected of him, we can see that his team is playing some kind of good football this season than last season. Also knowing too well that Manchester United has improved her team this season is a stepping stone to confidence of good performance. Let's believe ETH knows what he is doing, even if we have our doubts.

Do you think there is any difference in Manchester United performances? I think their performance is just the same as last season, or I will say their performance is even worse this season. Manchester United haven’t played anything special this season, there performance have been poor, they have been disappointing their fans since the season started. I won’t say because Manchester United won their match today, then I will start praising Ten Hag, a match can’t be used to judge if there is improvement in a club's performance. Manchester United played well today, but I won’t be surprised if they end up performing poorly in their next match.

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Quote from: Charles-Tim on October 19, 2024, 02:12:51 PM

Quote from: skarais on October 19, 2024, 01:27:49 PM

Seriously, did you realize that Arsenal are now 2-0 behind Bournemouth?
Arsenal played with 10 men since William Saliba was sent off with a red card in the 30th minute of the first half, but Bournemouth's two goals came in the 70th and 79th minutes of the second half. It's surprising because we all basically favor Arsenal to win this away match. The red card has clearly ruined all of Arteta's plans for this match, so they really need to make up for it in another match.

I was surprised to see Bournemouth won with 2 goals. William Saliba got a red card in 30 minutes and he is a defender. 10 men against 11 is not easy at all. There are times the team can be so good that the opponent will not win but Arsenal lost the match this time. There is still hope if Arsenal continue to play good but I just know that something might again hinder Arsenal this season. I wish the club can win the league once again but something will always happen that will hinder it from happening.

Saliba received a red card that disrupted Arsenal's balance. The team's game changed completely. I also congratulate the Bournemouth team for taking advantage of this. They showed how good a team they are by beating a team that is one of the championship candidates in the English Premier League. Of course, the red card Arsenal received in this match had a big impact, but in the end they beat Arsenal.

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Quote from: Charles-Tim on October 19, 2024, 02:12:51 PM

Quote from: skarais on October 19, 2024, 01:27:49 PM

Seriously, did you realize that Arsenal are now 2-0 behind Bournemouth?
Arsenal played with 10 men since William Saliba was sent off with a red card in the 30th minute of the first half, but Bournemouth's two goals came in the 70th and 79th minutes of the second half. It's surprising because we all basically favor Arsenal to win this away match. The red card has clearly ruined all of Arteta's plans for this match, so they really need to make up for it in another match.

I was surprised to see Bournemouth won with 2 goals. William Saliba got a red card in 30 minutes and he is a defender. 10 men against 11 is not easy at all. There are times the team can be so good that the opponent will not win but Arsenal lost the match this time. There is still hope if Arsenal continue to play good but I just know that something might again hinder Arsenal this season. I wish the club can win the league once again but something will always happen that will hinder it from happening.

Arsenal lost 2-0 today at the most important point of the season when the fixture was so close. Arsenal always does surprising things. It was very unfortunate that they were down to 10 men today, they started playing with one less man in the 30th minute and that's why the team started playing more closed and behind and they were defending well.

After a while in the second half, Arsenal's resistance was broken and Bournemouth managed to score two goals.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on October 19, 2024, 01:36:58 PM

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I was once again like "Ah shit, here we go again." about Manchester United at first. However they made a really nice comeback. Good for them and Erik ten Hag especially! Because you know he is like the most debated coach in the recent times. Tongue

It must be tough to handle such pressure.

He has always been confident about his job for quite a while. We will see about that. It is really assertive for a coach in his 3rd year without a PL title.

Even before the goal Manchester United players did well, they played better and did well to take control of the game during the first half. I'm blaming both the medical team and the official for the goal scored by Brentford United. The medical team should have provided a long term solution for the bleeding while the match official should have just let De Ligt on the pitch until the first half comes to an end. ( Finally I get his decision, Health First ). Newcastle United coach has also been fumbling but not being talked about and the same with West Ham. It's either they dislike Erik ten Hag or they dislike Manchester Uniteds success. Today, I'm giving Marcus Rashford and Garnacho his flowers. A striker who can convert chances would definitely solve 90% of them issues.

Even if Manchester United coach has found it difficult to get the desired result expected of him, we can see that his team is playing some kind of good football this season than last season. Also knowing too well that Manchester United has improved her team this season is a stepping stone to confidence of good performance. Let's believe ETH knows what he is doing, even if we have our doubts.
It is not time to judge, but let's see how Manchester United will be able to escape their shameful position in the table this season.

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