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Quote from: Luzin on October 17, 2024, 09:30:40 PM

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Zidane is unemployed now, and that possible he will come more closer to MU. but off corse he needs a freedom to make decisions to choose the player, I don't know if he have does it, because when we look how strange the owner in managing the club, maybe zidane will think it again to take a job. Dismisal Alex as ambassador and director is an example if the owner a bit heavy-handed in managing the club, maybe there will be the negotiations between zidane and the owner to make solution to do not interfere too much in team.

True, there will be many players will coming and going to MU because Zidane is have more priority to consolidation team than technic and skill.

Will he be available for Man United? I used to read that Zidane didn't want to coach Man United, his target was to be with France. He wants to become the coach of the French National Team. Did he change his mind? Or is France still loyal to Didier Deschamps and he hasn't gotten his chance?
I think Zidane is good with Real Madrid, but I don't think with Man United will be good without player adjustments. So I agree Zidane should be given the freedom to shop in order to get the ideal player he wants if he is with Man United.

It's funny that if we talking about Zidane being linked with Manchester United because, after all, the fact that Zidane turned it down to be the coach of PSG, which is a big team from Zidane's home country of France. Thus, there is no hope for other teams to be able to appoint Zidane as their coach because after all, it seems that Zidane is only willing to be the coach of Real Madrid and not for other teams. So, I believe it seems very impossible for Zidane to accept Manchester United's offer regardless of the value offered. But yes, it seems that the issue is really sticking out again at this time but still, I personally believe Zidane will reject it.

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The game between Manchester United and Brentford is a game I really look forward to it. considering the fact that Brentford always seem to start games very fast on the front foot with an early goal.i also think ten haag hasn't gotten the most out of his team which makes it easy playing against Manchester United.i really believe Brentford is the better team and will take their 3 points from Manchester United.if Manchester United would love to take anything from this game they must tighten up at the back.that might also be a big ask since Manchester United keep changing their backline which makes it difficult for a chemistry to be established.

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Jokes aside, they are hosting Brentford tomorrow. What do you think? Will they FINALLY manage to win this time?

You know they haven't been able to win for 5 games. Including all the official ones I mean. The board still want to give Erik ten Hag more time. He had better win tomorrow. Will I bet on their win? Nope. Tongue

But I really hope to see them breaking out of this horrible cycle. As far as I know Mazraoui is back but Mainoo has got injured this time. Technically they still have a stronger squad but let's see...

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Quote from: Palakka on October 18, 2024, 11:33:09 AM

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Quote from: Palakka on October 17, 2024, 12:51:43 PM

The decision to terminate Ferguson contract as a club ambassador is a very sensitive and controversial move, so I think it is precisely now that they no longer respect him as someone who once led Manchester United to the pinnacle of glory, not only Manchester fans and legends who regret their club treatment of Ferguson at the moment but criticism also arise from many parties, ferguson is not only a legendary manager, but also a symbol of the club glory era, so terminating his contract could be seen as a move that would not appreciate his legacy and outstanding contributions over the years, perhaps INEOS has a business point of view for the sack, however, they should also to see from emotional and historical perspective on how Ferguson gave his entire life during this time to Manchester United.

If this decision was born out of a business point of view then they should have thought about those fans who share the same sentiments as we all do as regards the love and respect that the entire sports world have for sir Alex Ferguson and the the lovely memories and even his legacies which is what has made the club what it is today and probably as investors the club's rich history could have been one of the factors that may have attracted them into investing their money in the club, except they want to say otherwise.

After knowing the reason for the dismissal, of course I began to think realistically in this case even though the fact that the sacking of Ferguson is not something that should be done by the management, in the last few days the sacking of Ferguson has caused a lot of debate, but we also cannot deny that sometimes business decisions can be seen as ignoring the emotional and historical aspects of the club even though it may hurt the feelings of the fans, what surprised me was that it wasn't just Ferguson who was sacked at the moment, but almost 250 employees have been sacked for the club's operational efficiency due to their excessive spending in recent seasons, so I don't think there's anything to argue about the dismissal because the management has to put the club above all else at the moment, moreover, Ferguson, who receives a salary of almost 2.2 million pounds per year, is currently very old and it is clear that his job as a club ambassador will be very draining his stamina and time.

Ferguson is a whole era of football in the English Premier League and a symbol of Manchester United. His dismissal may be rational from a business point of view, but we should not forget about the spiritual (so to speak) component for the team and the fans. It seems to me that the presence of a "living legend of the glory of past achievements" in the club would have a positive effect on the "fighting spirit" of the team. Of course, a lot of money allows you to buy "expensive" football players, but still, it is the cohesion that makes a team a team, and living legends like Ferguson would help strengthen this cohesion. This news made me sad.

It is clear that Ferguson is far from young, but he could have been left as a part-time ambassador of the club or something like that, so that if he had time and health, he could sometimes appear to the delight of the fans and the team.

Also, one more thing. This is still a dismissal, but it could have sounded different (for example, termination of a contract by mutual agreement or an honorable resignation).

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Quote from: Luzin on October 17, 2024, 09:30:40 PM

Quote from: blue Snow on October 17, 2024, 07:05:51 PM

Zidane is unemployed now, and that possible he will come more closer to MU. but off corse he needs a freedom to make decisions to choose the player, I don't know if he have does it, because when we look how strange the owner in managing the club, maybe zidane will think it again to take a job. Dismisal Alex as ambassador and director is an example if the owner a bit heavy-handed in managing the club, maybe there will be the negotiations between zidane and the owner to make solution to do not interfere too much in team.

True, there will be many players will coming and going to MU because Zidane is have more priority to consolidation team than technic and skill.

Will he be available for Man United? I used to read that Zidane didn't want to coach Man United, his target was to be with France. He wants to become the coach of the French National Team. Did he change his mind? Or is France still loyal to Didier Deschamps and he hasn't gotten his chance?
I think Zidane is good with Real Madrid, but I don't think with Man United will be good without player adjustments. So I agree Zidane should be given the freedom to shop in order to get the ideal player he wants if he is with Man United.

Of course, every coach with his own quality of players that will be able to play the kind of game pattern that he can use to outsmart his opponents. If it is possible that Zidane comes to Manchester united, he will be given the cjance to bring in new players of his choice because that is what will bring out the best in him and Manchester united management wants the best performance for the club.

I don't think that Zidane will love to come to England because he might not like the league since he is not used to it. My thoughts.

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Quote from: Lida93 on October 18, 2024, 08:00:13 AM

Quote from: Palakka on October 17, 2024, 12:51:43 PM

The decision to terminate Ferguson contract as a club ambassador is a very sensitive and controversial move, so I think it is precisely now that they no longer respect him as someone who once led Manchester United to the pinnacle of glory, not only Manchester fans and legends who regret their club treatment of Ferguson at the moment but criticism also arise from many parties, ferguson is not only a legendary manager, but also a symbol of the club glory era, so terminating his contract could be seen as a move that would not appreciate his legacy and outstanding contributions over the years, perhaps INEOS has a business point of view for the sack, however, they should also to see from emotional and historical perspective on how Ferguson gave his entire life during this time to Manchester United.

If this decision was born out of a business point of view then they should have thought about those fans who share the same sentiments as we all do as regards the love and respect that the entire sports world have for sir Alex Ferguson and the the lovely memories and even his legacies which is what has made the club what it is today and probably as investors the club's rich history could have been one of the factors that may have attracted them into investing their money in the club, except they want to say otherwise.

After knowing the reason for the dismissal, of course I began to think realistically in this case even though the fact that the sacking of Ferguson is not something that should be done by the management, in the last few days the sacking of Ferguson has caused a lot of debate, but we also cannot deny that sometimes business decisions can be seen as ignoring the emotional and historical aspects of the club even though it may hurt the feelings of the fans, what surprised me was that it wasn't just Ferguson who was sacked at the moment, but almost 250 employees have been sacked for the club's operational efficiency due to their excessive spending in recent seasons, so I don't think there's anything to argue about the dismissal because the management has to put the club above all else at the moment, moreover, Ferguson, who receives a salary of almost 2.2 million pounds per year, is currently very old and it is clear that his job as a club ambassador will be very draining his stamina and time.

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Quote from: Palakka on October 17, 2024, 12:51:43 PM

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It's been recently reported that Manchester United co-owners INEOS have decided to end Sir Alex Ferguson's lucrative contract as the club's ambassador. In the report, the Scot will step down from his current role at the club at the end of the season. This new development have drawn different opinions from the public but some of the legends of the club aren't happy that Sir Alex Ferguson will be step down from his role with some believing that he deserves to remain as the club's ambassador till death because of what he achieved as the club's manager. Do you think this decision by the club executives are right or a wrong move?

This is an act of disrespect to the club and the legends that have represented the club in the past and I don't think this will go down well with the club's hierarchy. Sir Alex Ferguson has been a symbol for Manchester United for several decades, he is one the reasons behind the club's success, during his era as coach he won several laurels including the prestigious uefa champions League trophy twice and has been actively involved in most of the decisions that were taken to ensure the smooth running of the club even after retirement, hence it is expected that his role as an ambassador for Manchester United shouldn't be terminated considering sir Alex Ferguson's years of service to the club which in my own opinion is an act of rebellion.

The decision to terminate Ferguson contract as a club ambassador is a very sensitive and controversial move, so I think it is precisely now that they no longer respect him as someone who once led Manchester United to the pinnacle of glory, not only Manchester fans and legends who regret their club treatment of Ferguson at the moment but criticism also arise from many parties, ferguson is not only a legendary manager, but also a symbol of the club glory era, so terminating his contract could be seen as a move that would not appreciate his legacy and outstanding contributions over the years, perhaps INEOS has a business point of view for the sack, however, they should also to see from emotional and historical perspective on how Ferguson gave his entire life during this time to Manchester United.

If this decision was born out of a business point of view then they should have thought about those fans who share the same sentiments as we all do as regards the love and respect that the entire sports world have for sir Alex Ferguson and the the lovely memories and even his legacies which is what has made the club what it is today and probably as investors the club's rich history could have been one of the factors that may have attracted them into investing their money in the club, except they want to say otherwise.

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Quote from: GiftedMAN on October 13, 2024, 05:21:15 PM

The arrival of Ten hag has seen the team go down they are not even see as an opposition to any team in the league because they are not sure of themselves anymore, I believe if Ten hag is out of the team a new manager will definitely be better than him.

Did the team go down during his first season? At least he had players that were ready to fight for the manager. The absence of Sabitzer, and Wout Werghorst really affected him during his second season because I know the individual performance and work rate they had invested. Manchester United fans are hell tiring but I understand, they're serial winners and wants to get back to the top. Manchester United fans are like Nigerians, maybe you-all deserve a Graham Potter who can send you to the relegation zones to show you all what you have in Erik ten Hag. Y'all keep clowning around and yapping! Zidane is not even a tactical upgrade of Erik ten Hag, I dislike the news of him being linked with Manchester United.

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Quote from: Luzin on October 17, 2024, 09:30:40 PM

Quote from: blue Snow on October 17, 2024, 07:05:51 PM

Zidane is unemployed now, and that possible he will come more closer to MU. but off corse he needs a freedom to make decisions to choose the player, I don't know if he have does it, because when we look how strange the owner in managing the club, maybe zidane will think it again to take a job. Dismisal Alex as ambassador and director is an example if the owner a bit heavy-handed in managing the club, maybe there will be the negotiations between zidane and the owner to make solution to do not interfere too much in team.

True, there will be many players will coming and going to MU because Zidane is have more priority to consolidation team than technic and skill.

Will he be available for Man United? I used to read that Zidane didn't want to coach Man United, his target was to be with France. He wants to become the coach of the French National Team. Did he change his mind? Or is France still loyal to Didier Deschamps and he hasn't gotten his chance?
I think Zidane is good with Real Madrid, but I don't think with Man United will be good without player adjustments. So I agree Zidane should be given the freedom to shop in order to get the ideal player he wants if he is with Man United.

As far I remember, while Zidane was not joining any team, he was available to any team. But to join Man United, he needed several conditions and the main one was that he asked to be given freedom in terms of overhauling the team.
Well, this is a problem that MU currently cannot accept because for management it might be something difficult when giving freedom but Man United doubts Zidane.
Even though I really agree if Zidane joins Man United and makes many changes to the players etc. I am sure Man United will have improvements within 3 seasons with Zidane.

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Quote from: Luzin on October 17, 2024, 09:30:40 PM

Quote from: blue Snow on October 17, 2024, 07:05:51 PM

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Will he be available for Man United? I used to read that Zidane didn't want to coach Man United, his target was to be with France. He wants to become the coach of the French National Team. Did he change his mind? Or is France still loyal to Didier Deschamps and he hasn't gotten his chance?
I think Zidane is good with Real Madrid, but I don't think with Man United will be good without player adjustments. So I agree Zidane should be given the freedom to shop in order to get the ideal player he wants if he is with Man United.

Zidane chances of coaching the French national team are indeed small because the FFF still has great confidence in Deschamps, the last time his contract was extended until June 2026. Zidane is reportedly set to replace the under-pressure Ten Hag at Manchester United, and is seen as the favourite to take United to the pinnacle of glory. However, this is still just an issue, previously he had also refused to coach MU, but he could change his mind because his wait seemed in vain, because the FFF still has full confidence in Deschamps, especially since he also has no plans to resign from the French National Team in the near future, so Zidane is starting to consider other options to continue his career as a manager.

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Quote from: Luzin on October 17, 2024, 09:30:40 PM

Quote from: blue Snow on October 17, 2024, 07:05:51 PM

Zidane is unemployed now, and that possible he will come more closer to MU. but off corse he needs a freedom to make decisions to choose the player, I don't know if he have does it, because when we look how strange the owner in managing the club, maybe zidane will think it again to take a job. Dismisal Alex as ambassador and director is an example if the owner a bit heavy-handed in managing the club, maybe there will be the negotiations between zidane and the owner to make solution to do not interfere too much in team.

True, there will be many players will coming and going to MU because Zidane is have more priority to consolidation team than technic and skill.

Will he be available for Man United? I used to read that Zidane didn't want to coach Man United, his target was to be with France. He wants to become the coach of the French National Team. Did he change his mind? Or is France still loyal to Didier Deschamps and he hasn't gotten his chance?
I think Zidane is good with Real Madrid, but I don't think with Man United will be good without player adjustments. So I agree Zidane should be given the freedom to shop in order to get the ideal player he wants if he is with Man United.

A person's mind can sometimes change over time so even though Zidane currently seems to show no interest in coaching one of the English clubs who knows if Man United continues to persuade him he will melt and be willing to replace Erik Ten Hag. Man United has stable finances and he can make a tempting offer to Zidane and anyone usually finds it difficult to refuse a tempting offer especially if Zidane is given the freedom to recruit the players he wants then he can build performance with his coaching system.
If Zidane becomes the coach of Man United then Pep Guardiola will have an equal competitor in the hunt for the EPL title and in the UCL.

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Quote from: blue Snow on October 17, 2024, 07:05:51 PM

Zidane is unemployed now, and that possible he will come more closer to MU. but off corse he needs a freedom to make decisions to choose the player, I don't know if he have does it, because when we look how strange the owner in managing the club, maybe zidane will think it again to take a job. Dismisal Alex as ambassador and director is an example if the owner a bit heavy-handed in managing the club, maybe there will be the negotiations between zidane and the owner to make solution to do not interfere too much in team.

True, there will be many players will coming and going to MU because Zidane is have more priority to consolidation team than technic and skill.

Will he be available for Man United? I used to read that Zidane didn't want to coach Man United, his target was to be with France. He wants to become the coach of the French National Team. Did he change his mind? Or is France still loyal to Didier Deschamps and he hasn't gotten his chance?
I think Zidane is good with Real Madrid, but I don't think with Man United will be good without player adjustments. So I agree Zidane should be given the freedom to shop in order to get the ideal player he wants if he is with Man United.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on October 17, 2024, 02:14:07 PM

The latest candidate is Vincenzo Montella, but reportedly United is also trying to get Zidane to coach them. I'm not sure if that can be done or not. but if United succeeds in getting Zidane, I think they have to be ready to make changes to the squad, which means there will be players coming and going. Zidane will definitely ask the club specifically to bring in some star players. I'm not so sure, but the chances are probably small that United will be coached by Zidane.

Zidane is unemployed now, and that possible he will come more closer to MU. but off corse he needs a freedom to make decisions to choose the player, I don't know if he have does it, because when we look how strange the owner in managing the club, maybe zidane will think it again to take a job. Dismisal Alex as ambassador and director is an example if the owner a bit heavy-handed in managing the club, maybe there will be the negotiations between zidane and the owner to make solution to do not interfere too much in team.

True, there will be many players will coming and going to MU because Zidane is have more priority to consolidation team than technic and skill.

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I'm curious about your opinions on Nicolas Jackson by the way. What do you think about his future at Chelsea? Huh

Honestly I have criticized him for a really long time and many other people also have done the same. But this season it started to seem like he is getting better. I mean 4 goals and 3 assists in 7 games is just impressive statistics. He is working more now but Palmer's role in this is really big though. He isn't a selfish player. As long as they keep Palmer I feel like Jackson will also continue to be productive. But I'm wondering whether Chelsea will still make a move for Osimhen anyway like it is rumoured...

After club legend John Mikel Obi publicly criticized him for not converting chances he had during the third and second fixtures, he didn't just made a response online but he also made a great response on the pitch which was both on and off the ball for them during the games against Bournemouth even that against West Ham United changed my mindset about him. But, Chelsea fans demands nothing but consistency from him and even of he is not scoring, he should try to create chances as a player and make his side much productive. I'm not sure he'll thrive in a Virgil van Dijk and Konate defense combination against Liverpool though. Osimhen to Chelsea still peng news.

I’m not going to lie, Nicolas Jackson’s performance improved after the criticisms from Mikel Obi. I think their agreement was “I score goals every week and you keep quiet about me” sort of thing. Jackson did shut Mikel Obi up for a little while but his performance has dropped again and as January window draws closer, talks of Chelsea needing a new striker are starting again. I believe Enzo Maresca is still interested in signing Victor Osimhen, the problem is will Chelsea be able to make an offer that will appeal to the player.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on October 17, 2024, 11:47:19 AM

Quote from: Docnaster on October 16, 2024, 06:47:26 PM

Do you think this decision by the club executives are right or a wrong move?

Will Sir Alex Ferguson stepping down as ambassador bring down the history he has with Manchester United? Will the trophies and medals won be retrieved? C'mon man, he'll be 86 years old by 25th or 26th December, I don't see nothing wrong with him stepping down as ambassador, it has nothing to disrespect.

Not at all. Sir Alex Ferguson and Man United are two things that are already attached and united, like, they can't be separated. Whether he wants to be an ambassador or not, it won't matter. In fact, we are much more familiar and aware, or more attached to Ferguson than the owner of Man United. We will all respect and remember him, history will not be easily erased. And Sir Alex Ferguson remains a legend of Man United.

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Man United has a reason related to the cost they have to spend for Sir Alex Ferguson as the club brand ambassador. And that is what is being discussed because they are in the process of cutting expenses. Every decision will definitely have pluses and minuses, and will invite pros and cons.

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I also wonder why Manchester United still keep Erik ten Hag because after all, the reality is that Erik ten Hag only succeeded in his first season at least making Manchester United able to compete in the top four. But after his first season passed, the reality is that Erik ten Hag is no longer able to make Manchester United in the top four or even to make Manchester United in the top zone it looks difficult for Erik ten Hag.
Perhaps, Erik ten Hag's success in making Manchester United beat Manchester City in the FA Cup final last season, to finally make Manchester United still give Erik ten Hag confidence and time this season. But unfortunately, it looks like Erika ten Hag actually failed to take advantage of the trust and time that has been given this season. But even so, Manchester United are likely to keep Erik ten Hag until the end of this season. So yes, let's just look forward to the final result later, whether Manchester United will finish in a good position, or will still get another trophy or fail miserably, it's interesting to look forward to.

I actually agree if Ten Hag is replaced immediately. Although United has appeared with some improved performances, this season they are really bad. Ten Hag really deserves to be replaced.
But see the process experienced by United in several years that have made several changes of coaches but none have been able to make United's performance stable. United has changed coaches only in the short term. maybe they want to keep Ten Hag for a longer time to stabilize the performance of the players chosen. building United must not be easy for any coach. but United's current performance should not be tolerated. maybe if United were in the top 5 or 6, many would still be able to understand Ten Hag's difficulties. but now they are in 14th position in the standings. of course, many are cursing him.

Manchester United have no choice but to sack the Ten Hag at the moment. Manchester United management might have hoped that Ten Hag would change his match strategy this season and Manchester United's performance would stabilize a bit. But Manchester United's match strategy is even weaker this season. I don't know what match strategy this team plays. The performance of this group is very strange.

Manchester United team is on the 14th place in the points table. Won only 2 out of 7 matches. This team is performing very badly. So ten Hag should be sacked by Manchester United. I look forward to seeing who will be the next coach of Manchester United.

The team doesn’t trust Erik Ten Hag. When ETH is talking at press conferences, you can tell that he doesn’t believe that the players can win games. Erik Ten Hag lacks that mentality that great managers like Jose Mourinho have. In Mourinho’s first season in Chelsea, he told everyone that his players Drogba, Lampard, Terry were the best in the world. Hearing those words from a manager is the most powerful feeling and boost any player can ask for. It is up to Manchester United if they are willing to continue as a mid table club or climb back the ranks with a new manager taking charge.

That's what many fans are waiting for. United must make a decision soon if they don't want this season to end badly. there are rumors that the dismissal could happen this weekend. maybe this week's match for United. regardless of the result whether win or lose, maybe if United has found a replacement, Ten Hag will really be fired.

The latest candidate is Vincenzo Montella, but reportedly United is also trying to get Zidane to coach them. I'm not sure if that can be done or not. but if United succeeds in getting Zidane, I think they have to be ready to make changes to the squad, which means there will be players coming and going. Zidane will definitely ask the club specifically to bring in some star players. I'm not so sure, but the chances are probably small that United will be coached by Zidane.

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Quote from: Docnaster on October 16, 2024, 06:47:26 PM

It's been recently reported that Manchester United co-owners INEOS have decided to end Sir Alex Ferguson's lucrative contract as the club's ambassador. In the report, the Scot will step down from his current role at the club at the end of the season. This new development have drawn different opinions from the public but some of the legends of the club aren't happy that Sir Alex Ferguson will be step down from his role with some believing that he deserves to remain as the club's ambassador till death because of what he achieved as the club's manager. Do you think this decision by the club executives are right or a wrong move?

I think this news might have been blown out of proportion. Alex Ferguson was getting £2.165 million (~$2.82m) for his role as the clubs ambassador, but we all know at the age of 82, he's not very active in actually undertaking any promotional activities. It's possible that the club and Alex mutually agreed to terminate that contract.
What he was getting paid was around the average salary of Premier League players, and knowing Man United are not doing very well and there's a big chance they won't qualify for any European cups next season and will likely lose a lot of revenue from merchandise sales, they can't really afford to be throwing money around and need to start looking for savings.

Alex Ferguson will still remain as a non-executive director of the club, and he probably doesn't really need any more money than he already has.

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Quote from: Tony116 on October 17, 2024, 01:46:42 PM

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Quote from: hahay on October 17, 2024, 01:00:25 PM

I also wonder why Manchester United still keep Erik ten Hag because after all, the reality is that Erik ten Hag only succeeded in his first season at least making Manchester United able to compete in the top four. But after his first season passed, the reality is that Erik ten Hag is no longer able to make Manchester United in the top four or even to make Manchester United in the top zone it looks difficult for Erik ten Hag.
Perhaps, Erik ten Hag's success in making Manchester United beat Manchester City in the FA Cup final last season, to finally make Manchester United still give Erik ten Hag confidence and time this season. But unfortunately, it looks like Erika ten Hag actually failed to take advantage of the trust and time that has been given this season. But even so, Manchester United are likely to keep Erik ten Hag until the end of this season. So yes, let's just look forward to the final result later, whether Manchester United will finish in a good position, or will still get another trophy or fail miserably, it's interesting to look forward to.

I actually agree if Ten Hag is replaced immediately. Although United has appeared with some improved performances, this season they are really bad. Ten Hag really deserves to be replaced.
But see the process experienced by United in several years that have made several changes of coaches but none have been able to make United's performance stable. United has changed coaches only in the short term. maybe they want to keep Ten Hag for a longer time to stabilize the performance of the players chosen. building United must not be easy for any coach. but United's current performance should not be tolerated. maybe if United were in the top 5 or 6, many would still be able to understand Ten Hag's difficulties. but now they are in 14th position in the standings. of course, many are cursing him.

Manchester United have no choice but to sack the Ten Hag at the moment. Manchester United management might have hoped that Ten Hag would change his match strategy this season and Manchester United's performance would stabilize a bit. But Manchester United's match strategy is even weaker this season. I don't know what match strategy this team plays. The performance of this group is very strange.

Manchester United team is on the 14th place in the points table. Won only 2 out of 7 matches. This team is performing very badly. So ten Hag should be sacked by Manchester United. I look forward to seeing who will be the next coach of Manchester United.

The team doesn’t trust Erik Ten Hag. When ETH is talking at press conferences, you can tell that he doesn’t believe that the players can win games. Erik Ten Hag lacks that mentality that great managers like Jose Mourinho have. In Mourinho’s first season in Chelsea, he told everyone that his players Drogba, Lampard, Terry were the best in the world. Hearing those words from a manager is the most powerful feeling and boost any player can ask for. It is up to Manchester United if they are willing to continue as a mid table club or climb back the ranks with a new manager taking charge.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on October 17, 2024, 01:14:08 PM

Quote from: hahay on October 17, 2024, 01:00:25 PM

I also wonder why Manchester United still keep Erik ten Hag because after all, the reality is that Erik ten Hag only succeeded in his first season at least making Manchester United able to compete in the top four. But after his first season passed, the reality is that Erik ten Hag is no longer able to make Manchester United in the top four or even to make Manchester United in the top zone it looks difficult for Erik ten Hag.
Perhaps, Erik ten Hag's success in making Manchester United beat Manchester City in the FA Cup final last season, to finally make Manchester United still give Erik ten Hag confidence and time this season. But unfortunately, it looks like Erika ten Hag actually failed to take advantage of the trust and time that has been given this season. But even so, Manchester United are likely to keep Erik ten Hag until the end of this season. So yes, let's just look forward to the final result later, whether Manchester United will finish in a good position, or will still get another trophy or fail miserably, it's interesting to look forward to.

I actually agree if Ten Hag is replaced immediately. Although United has appeared with some improved performances, this season they are really bad. Ten Hag really deserves to be replaced.
But see the process experienced by United in several years that have made several changes of coaches but none have been able to make United's performance stable. United has changed coaches only in the short term. maybe they want to keep Ten Hag for a longer time to stabilize the performance of the players chosen. building United must not be easy for any coach. but United's current performance should not be tolerated. maybe if United were in the top 5 or 6, many would still be able to understand Ten Hag's difficulties. but now they are in 14th position in the standings. of course, many are cursing him.

Manchester United have no choice but to sack the Ten Hag at the moment. Manchester United management might have hoped that Ten Hag would change his match strategy this season and Manchester United's performance would stabilize a bit. But Manchester United's match strategy is even weaker this season. I don't know what match strategy this team plays. The performance of this group is very strange.

Manchester United team is on the 14th place in the points table. Won only 2 out of 7 matches. This team is performing very badly. So ten Hag should be sacked by Manchester United. I look forward to seeing who will be the next coach of Manchester United.

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Quote from: hahay on October 17, 2024, 01:00:25 PM

I also wonder why Manchester United still keep Erik ten Hag because after all, the reality is that Erik ten Hag only succeeded in his first season at least making Manchester United able to compete in the top four. But after his first season passed, the reality is that Erik ten Hag is no longer able to make Manchester United in the top four or even to make Manchester United in the top zone it looks difficult for Erik ten Hag.

Perhaps, Erik ten Hag's success in making Manchester United beat Manchester City in the FA Cup final last season, to finally make Manchester United still give Erik ten Hag confidence and time this season. But unfortunately, it looks like Erika ten Hag actually failed to take advantage of the trust and time that has been given this season. But even so, Manchester United are likely to keep Erik ten Hag until the end of this season. So yes, let's just look forward to the final result later, whether Manchester United will finish in a good position, or will still get another trophy or fail miserably, it's interesting to look forward to.

I actually agree if Ten Hag is replaced immediately. Although United has appeared with some improved performances, this season they are really bad. Ten Hag really deserves to be replaced.
But see the process experienced by United in several years that have made several changes of coaches but none have been able to make United's performance stable. United has changed coaches only in the short term. maybe they want to keep Ten Hag for a longer time to stabilize the performance of the players chosen. building United must not be easy for any coach. but United's current performance should not be tolerated. maybe if United were in the top 5 or 6, many would still be able to understand Ten Hag's difficulties. but now they are in 14th position in the standings. of course, many are cursing him.

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