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Ten Hag left without leaving the best impression for Manchester United, but I respect his work for the team. Next, I hope that Ten Hag can get a greater job with another team, while in the remainder of this season Amorim is expected to be able to improve Manchester United's performance.

I Will never forget his first season for Manchester United which made me a fan immediately, at the same time winning a trophy and qualifying for the champions league competition. He did his best for the club as he understood the demands of the fans. I have less to say about the past RN. The truth is that, I'm ready to back the new manager but I'm not expectant so I don't end up disappointed when he fails to live up to the hype around him. Manchester United has what it takes to finish top 4  with this coach IMO,  who agrees?
Yes, everyone respects Ten Hag, he did his best anyway, the pressure of managing a big team is not easy. I feel Erik Ten Hag cares and loves Manchester United. Ten Hag wants to take this club forward, and that's why he left, he felt heartbroken too.

However, I have to say that Manchester United under Ten Hag achieved the worst performance in Premier League history with 8th place in the Premier League last season. Manchester United have failed to improve this season despite investing more than £200m in new signings during the summer. Currently, Ten Hag has remained completely silent after being fired by Manchester United. But Ten Hag is also proud of his achievements here with two trophies and it is clear that he has left history with that.
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Ten Hag left without leaving the best impression for Manchester United, but I respect his work for the team. Next, I hope that Ten Hag can get a greater job with another team, while in the remainder of this season Amorim is expected to be able to improve Manchester United's performance.

I Will never forget his first season for Manchester United which made me a fan immediately, at the same time winning a trophy and qualifying for the champions league competition. He did his best for the club as he understood the demands of the fans. I have less to say about the past RN. The truth is that, I'm ready to back the new manager but I'm not expectant so I don't end up disappointed when he fails to live up to the hype around him. Manchester United has what it takes to finish top 4  with this coach IMO,  who agrees?
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I saw this post on the Premier League’s official Instagram page. The caption was ‘so much cab change in a year’. At first I thought it was a roast at Manchester City since they were number 1 last season and now are struggling between games to keep their position at number 2 on the table. But more interesting is that Arsenal didn’t really change, they maintained the same spot. And Manchester United have dropped drastically this year, from 8th on the table last year to 13th on the table. Which other team caught your eye?
In my opinion, Man City's performance in the 11 matches they have played so far cannot be said to have decreased drastically because they are still in 2nd place and maybe sooner or later they will soon catch up with Liverpool, besides the performance of Man City and Arsenal, there are Chelsea and Notthingham Forest who have caught my attention at this time because they have made rapid progress even though they have only played 11 matches so far and there is also Tottenham Hotspur who have actually experienced a drastic decline this season, last season they were in 2nd place now they are in 10th place.
Liverpool's performance in the first 11 games of last season and the points they had are similar to what they have seen this season. However, the biggest proof that Manchester City is not able to perform like last season this season is the points table of this season. Liverpool and Manchester City have played equal number of matches in the Premier League with Liverpool topping the points table with 28 points while Manchester City are second in the points table with 23 points. That is, by playing this small number of matches, a big gap of five points has been created between Manchester City and Liverpool. If Liverpool performs like this until the end of the season, on the contrary, if Manchester City does such a messy performance, it goes without saying that Liverpool's title will be confirmed a few matches before the end of the season.
Liverpool full strength team  is good team and they will play next match against Southampton full strength team. Southampton is not quality team and their past performance is not good and they lose 3 matches out of 5 matches and Liverpool team did not lose any match out of 5 matches. And head to head performance is also one handed  because Liverpool team won 4 matches out of 5 . Man City will play the match against Liverpool  in first Jan . Liverpool is full strength team and it will win this match easily by high margin.Man City full strength team temperament is not good and their most of players are unfit and that's why team lost their good performance and now they are in bad form .
In the first 11 matches in the English Premier League, except for one match, Liverpool have not been defeated in any match so far. Liverpool's performance in every match seems to be quite balanced and those who are being played in the positions are performing very well in their respective positions. This season has been relatively easy for Liverpool compared to other seasons as the strongest team in the Premier League, Manchester City, is not performing well this season.

Since Manchester City have not been in good form this season, if Liverpool can finally maintain this consistent performance then I think Liverpool can celebrate winning the title at the end of the season. Liverpool's next match is against Southampton where in this match Liverpool are being put ahead in all directions and of course I think Liverpool will leave the field with a big win in this match.
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Isn't that the purpose though? I mean when they fired Erik Ten Hag, they didn't really expected to hire the next Sir Alex Ferguson, they know (or at least they should) they are not going to get someone that great ever again, that was a one time thing and doesn't happen to many teams and rarely ever happens, getting two of them, so close to each other would be very unlikely. What they wanted was a manager who would be better than ETH, and would get good results as well. United is a team that should be in top four discussion every year, so even if he keeps the team in the top four every year he is there, then he is a good enough coach. What you expect someone like SAF to win the league time to time, whereas with Amorim, staying in top four would keep him his job and that should be enough. I believe that, they won't do that this year, but they may do that next year and forward.
Manchester United have always been expecting to hire the next Fergie since he left from the club. they has always been looking for someone who can bring the back to their glory days like what Fergie did. they did it after Fergie decides to retire as a caretaker, but they never find any who closer to the Fergie.

Let's not have high expectations of Amorim. Let's give him time to work and deliver results. Then, we can judge his performance.
The last paragraph of your comment is exactly the same thing I've been saying on this thread and other premier league threads on this forum since Amorim assumed office as the new Manchester united coach.

We see that Manchester united's performance immediately jumped up just the very moment the new coach assumed office, does this show that the other previous coach; Ten Hag was that or this bad?, or perhaps, the football team of Manchester united simply did not like him and always played in a way they would deliberately loose matches as a way to spite Ten Hag and also support the masses cry and demand for his sack?..

Anyways, I agree, lets not start praising the new coach immediately, it's good we give him some quality time to see if he really can maintain and backup the current performance of the man united players with proves later in the future.
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Isn't that the purpose though? I mean when they fired Erik Ten Hag, they didn't really expected to hire the next Sir Alex Ferguson, they know (or at least they should) they are not going to get someone that great ever again, that was a one time thing and doesn't happen to many teams and rarely ever happens, getting two of them, so close to each other would be very unlikely. What they wanted was a manager who would be better than ETH, and would get good results as well. United is a team that should be in top four discussion every year, so even if he keeps the team in the top four every year he is there, then he is a good enough coach. What you expect someone like SAF to win the league time to time, whereas with Amorim, staying in top four would keep him his job and that should be enough. I believe that, they won't do that this year, but they may do that next year and forward.
Manchester United have always been expecting to hire the next Fergie since he left from the club. they has always been looking for someone who can bring the back to their glory days like what Fergie did. they did it after Fergie decides to retire as a caretaker, but they never find any who closer to the Fergie.

Let's not have high expectations of Amorim. Let's give him time to work and deliver results. Then, we can judge his performance.
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A new journey is starting for Manchester United with Ruben Amorim. What do you think about this change? Do you have big expectations?  Huh

I just don't want to make sure of anything yet. Like he will do much better than Erik ten Hag and so on. Because if you remember, Erik ten Hag was also a really successful manager before signing for Manchester United. He was doing great with Ajax but this change wasn't good for any sides after.

Amorim has also done great things at Sporting. However it is too early to claim he will maintain it in the Premier League as well.
I don't have much expectation with him. He is still young and doesn't have enough experience to train a big club to compete in the top premier league. But, if we look at how great coaches form when they beginning train a big club like Manchester United, I am optimistic that Amorim is not like Ten Hag who did not get respect when began on MU. We have to wait what he first step to increase the performance of MU, If he would bring his player from sporting to MU, it will be the same as ten Hag (when he brings Antony from ajax). But, MU that time not so needy a player like that so that it does not run effectively and Ten Hag was made his own mistakes.
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I'm expecting nothing from his, I also do not see him as the new Sir Alex Ferguson for real. This change is good, EtH has not been able to live up to the high expectations although I still feel like he should have been give time. But you need to win games to get time and the players weren't converting chances. It feels like they was already fed up playing and having him as the head manager. Like I said, saw same people who was excited with the EtH appointment criticise him brutally.
I will never forget Ten Hag's great work for Manchester United, but he is not the best to stay in charge for longer. The team never really developed under him and Manchester United found it very difficult to compete and take the title from him at the end of the season. Ten Hag certainly has his own skills, but he is not very good at competing in the Premier League when other coaches such as Pep Guardiola and Arteta are showing greater performance.

Ten Hag left without leaving the best impression for Manchester United, but I respect his work for the team. Next, I hope that Ten Hag can get a greater job with another team, while in the remainder of this season Amorim is expected to be able to improve Manchester United's performance.
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Nothing will last forever, and I feel that City reign in EPL is coming to an ens because I don't believe that they would be able to win the title this season, if they continue in this form and don't improve their performance.
Of course, the great era of a football team can be over someday. It won't last forever, there should be the time that a football team starts to drop their power gradually. Sure, Man City won't always dominates the EPL competition, this season they looked not as strong as the last season. However, I think they still have a chance to catch Liverpool. It is still in the first half of the season, there are still a lot matches left. So, it is not impossible that the position on the top of EPL table to be changed.

Liverpool is in their best performance currently, and I don't think anyone can stop them from achieving their goal, only if injury ravish the team before the end of this season.
Agree. So far Liverpool could play consistently, solidly, and stronger. However, we need to see how consistent they are. Let's see if Liverpool could keep their good performance until the second half of the season. I am a bit worried that Liverpool will end up the season like Arsenal ever did. Sure, injury problem and internal conflict among the players can be an obstacle, too. So, Liverpool needs to be aware of these potential problems.

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Isn't that the purpose though? I mean when they fired Erik Ten Hag, they didn't really expected to hire the next Sir Alex Ferguson, they know (or at least they should) they are not going to get someone that great ever again, that was a one time thing and doesn't happen to many teams and rarely ever happens, getting two of them, so close to each other would be very unlikely. What they wanted was a manager who would be better than ETH, and would get good results as well. United is a team that should be in top four discussion every year, so even if he keeps the team in the top four every year he is there, then he is a good enough coach. What you expect someone like SAF to win the league time to time, whereas with Amorim, staying in top four would keep him his job and that should be enough. I believe that, they won't do that this year, but they may do that next year and forward.
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A new journey is starting for Manchester United with Ruben Amorim. What do you think about this change? Do you have big expectations?  Huh

I just don't want to make sure of anything yet. Like he will do much better than Erik ten Hag and so on. Because if you remember, Erik ten Hag was also a really successful manager before signing for Manchester United. He was doing great with Ajax but this change wasn't good for any sides after.

Amorim has also done great things at Sporting. However it is too early to claim he will maintain it in the Premier League as well.

I'm expecting nothing from his, I also do not see him as the new Sir Alex Ferguson for real. This change is good, EtH has not been able to live up to the high expectations although I still feel like he should have been give time. But you need to win games to get time and the players weren't converting chances. It feels like they was already fed up playing and having him as the head manager. Like I said, saw same people who was excited with the EtH appointment criticise him brutally.
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I think a lot of people don’t realize that this is the only season where Manchester City have actually started well. Manchester City have a track record of getting good results from January and then winning the Premier league. I wouldn’t be tooo excited about City losing four games when we still have 27 games to go. Manchester City are far from being out of the title race this season. EPL fans desperately want another team to win the league this season so it doesn’t look like City are farming the league.
The truth is that Manchester City under Pep Guardiola is one team you can't actually undermine when they're mathematically not out of the race to win trophy. We've seen them come from behind on some occasions to win the league so coming back from five points that they're currently trailing league leaders Liverpool at the moment is very possible but I also think that they'll face more difficult competition this season than they've never faced in the league of Liverpool continues with their current form. I don't think anyone who knows how lethal Manchester City is would want to write them off but I have a strong feeling they'll not win the league this season

In the most competitive premier league season where anybody can beat anybody, I don't think Man City will win for the fifth consecutive times. Liverpool is a strong rival and the reds wouldn't let this opportunity slide. Also with the likes of Pep and Haaland having interest of leaving the team, winning the cup won't be easy for Cityzens.
Nothing will last forever, and I feel that City reign in EPL is coming to an ens because I don't believe that they would be able to win the title this season, if they continue in this form and don't improve their performance.

Liverpool is in their best performance currently, and I don't think anyone can stop them from achieving their goal, only if injury ravish the team before the end of this season.
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I saw this post on the Premier League’s official Instagram page. The caption was ‘so much cab change in a year’. At first I thought it was a roast at Manchester City since they were number 1 last season and now are struggling between games to keep their position at number 2 on the table. But more interesting is that Arsenal didn’t really change, they maintained the same spot. And Manchester United have dropped drastically this year, from 8th on the table last year to 13th on the table. Which other team caught your eye?
In my opinion, Man City's performance in the 11 matches they have played so far cannot be said to have decreased drastically because they are still in 2nd place and maybe sooner or later they will soon catch up with Liverpool, besides the performance of Man City and Arsenal, there are Chelsea and Notthingham Forest who have caught my attention at this time because they have made rapid progress even though they have only played 11 matches so far and there is also Tottenham Hotspur who have actually experienced a drastic decline this season, last season they were in 2nd place now they are in 10th place.
Liverpool's performance in the first 11 games of last season and the points they had are similar to what they have seen this season. However, the biggest proof that Manchester City is not able to perform like last season this season is the points table of this season. Liverpool and Manchester City have played equal number of matches in the Premier League with Liverpool topping the points table with 28 points while Manchester City are second in the points table with 23 points. That is, by playing this small number of matches, a big gap of five points has been created between Manchester City and Liverpool. If Liverpool performs like this until the end of the season, on the contrary, if Manchester City does such a messy performance, it goes without saying that Liverpool's title will be confirmed a few matches before the end of the season.
Liverpool full strength team  is good team and they will play next match against Southampton full strength team. Southampton is not quality team and their past performance is not good and they lose 3 matches out of 5 matches and Liverpool team did not lose any match out of 5 matches. And head to head performance is also one handed  because Liverpool team won 4 matches out of 5 . Man City will play the match against Liverpool  in first Jan . Liverpool is full strength team and it will win this match easily by high margin.Man City full strength team temperament is not good and their most of players are unfit and that's why team lost their good performance and now they are in bad form .
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I think a lot of people don’t realize that this is the only season where Manchester City have actually started well. Manchester City have a track record of getting good results from January and then winning the Premier league. I wouldn’t be tooo excited about City losing four games when we still have 27 games to go. Manchester City are far from being out of the title race this season. EPL fans desperately want another team to win the league this season so it doesn’t look like City are farming the league.
The truth is that Manchester City under Pep Guardiola is one team you can't actually undermine when they're mathematically not out of the race to win trophy. We've seen them come from behind on some occasions to win the league so coming back from five points that they're currently trailing league leaders Liverpool at the moment is very possible but I also think that they'll face more difficult competition this season than they've never faced in the league of Liverpool continues with their current form. I don't think anyone who knows how lethal Manchester City is would want to write them off but I have a strong feeling they'll not win the league this season

In the most competitive premier league season where anybody can beat anybody, I don't think Man City will win for the fifth consecutive times. Liverpool is a strong rival and the reds wouldn't let this opportunity slide. Also with the likes of Pep and Haaland having interest of leaving the team, winning the cup won't be easy for Cityzens.
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How could they lose confidence so quickly in just 11 weeks out of 38?
I'm not sure how they came to that conclusion so quickly, when the Premier League still has 27 games left until the end of the season. Liverpool, Manchester City, Arsenal or Chelsea can still change before the end of the season, this means that all possibilities are still there.

Removing Manchester City too quickly from a potential title-winning team is not a good decision, I definitely doubt Manchester City will fail this season. Liverpool are certainly still in their best form, but who can guarantee they will stay like this throughout the season? I don't think there is.
It's too early to write off Manchester City from the title chase. They still have all it takes to win this league this season and with the number unplayed they can turn around their lapses. All this insinuations that they are out is because the club has not lost four games in a row since Pep Guardiola became the manager. Maybe people think that he has lost his master touch and their performance will keep depreciating. The next few games will determine how true these speculations will be.

I actually hope that this season we will see a new champion emerge at the end of the season, because after seeing manchester city win 4 times in a row it's starting to get boring in my opinion, so I hope there are other teams be it Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenals or even Aston Villa that can end City's dominance at the end of this season.
Both of us have the same vision this season. I want to see a new champion this season not just in the English Premier League but in French League One. The domination of one club makes the league less exciting to me. Arsenal and Liverpool should step up their games.
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In my opinion, Man City's performance in the 11 matches they have played so far cannot be said to have decreased drastically because they are still in 2nd place and maybe sooner or later they will soon catch up with Liverpool, besides the performance of Man City and Arsenal, there are Chelsea and Notthingham Forest who have caught my attention at this time because they have made rapid progress even though they have only played 11 matches so far and there is also Tottenham Hotspur who have actually experienced a drastic decline this season, last season they were in 2nd place now they are in 10th place.
Manchester city haven't really performed badly except for the fact that they had to lose four consecutive games which many would rather say is a very poor performance from the reigning English champions, but that notwithstanding, I believe there is still a chance for the Manchester city club because they still occupy the second place at the table and there could still be a slip from Liverpool which means Manchester city has to brace up incase of a situation where the league leader drop any point, honestly I do not think it is over for the current champions because anything is possible and it wouldn't be the first time this would happen in the premier League.
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I agree with you that it is possible for Manchester City to overcome Liverpool. Manchester City has also overcome Arsenal in the last two seasons, and I will not argue about that. However, the truth is that Liverpool is very strong at this moment. It is possible they maintain this strength until the end of the season and never give Manchester City the chance to surpass them.
Manchester City is indeed a good team with quality players, but their strenth relies on their midfield which is ben led by Kevin De Bruyne and Rodri, whenever these two players get injured, Manchester City finds it hard to win matches which we seen this season again; now that Rpdri is out for the rest of the season due to injury, and De Bruyne is not consistent again as he often get injured, I don't also think Manchester City can win the League this season because Liverpool is a strong contender alongside Arsenal.

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As for me, the most favored team to win the Premier League title this season is Liverpool. However, let's keep watching since the season has not yet reached its middle There are still many matches to play. I would also like to point out that even Arsenal and Chelsea still have some chances to win the league if Liverpool is affected by injuries. If that happens, Liverpool's performance will surely decline, and Chelsea and Arsenal may try to close the points gap.Currently, there is a 9 points difference with Liverpool at the top of the table.
Yes, based on current form, Liverpool stand the highest chance to win the Premier League, but I can see that Arsenal players that are injured are almost back, and Liverpool is yet to face the injury chalanges the likes of Arsenal and Manchester City faced; if their time come to face injury challenges, their performance will drop, but if they can be able to maintain the momentum until the end of the season, then they can win the League this season.
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I think a lot of people don’t realize that this is the only season where Manchester City have actually started well. Manchester City have a track record of getting good results from January and then winning the Premier league. I wouldn’t be tooo excited about City losing four games when we still have 27 games to go. Manchester City are far from being out of the title race this season. EPL fans desperately want another team to win the league this season so it doesn’t look like City are farming the league.
What happened for manchester city this season really surprised us because since the beginning of the season they actually performed quite well, but the injury obtained by rodri has actually changed the stability of their team, I think with the mentality and also the experience possessed by guardiola certainly allows them to still catch up with Liverpool, if guardiola can find the right player to replace rodri position then maybe they will return to winning ways, the journey of the season is still too long at the moment and anything can happen until the end of season.

I saw a lot of people wanting Arsenal to become champions because Artate took a long time to get there, Arsenal spent a lot of money on new players, but they always lacked something at the last moment, and now Arsenal lost too many points from the very beginning and they are already 9 points behind Liverpool, and it seems that Arsenal has no chance to reduce this gap. City is also 5 points behind Liverpool, this is a lot, but I am also sure that City will chase Liverpool until the end of the season, and I also doubt that Liverpool will go the whole distance without losing points.
I actually hope that this season we will see a new champion emerge at the end of the season, because after seeing manchester city win 4 times in a row it's starting to get boring in my opinion, so I hope there are other teams be it Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal or even Aston Villa that can end City's dominance at the end of this season.
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People are already losing confidence in Manchester City with the way their performance has dropped, and most people are thinking it’s going to be difficult for Manchester city to bounce back due to injury problem which they are facing, but I will say it’s still early, Manchester City can’t continue performing poorly, and the gap between Manchester City, and Liverpool is still close, it’s not that much that we will think Manchester city won’t be able to cover up, just that Guardiola will have to fix the current problem Manchester City is having early.
How could they lose confidence so quickly in just 11 weeks out of 38?
I'm not sure how they came to that conclusion so quickly, when the Premier League still has 27 games left until the end of the season. Liverpool, Manchester City, Arsenal or Chelsea can still change before the end of the season, this means that all possibilities are still there.

Removing Manchester City too quickly from a potential title-winning team is not a good decision, I definitely doubt Manchester City will fail this season. Liverpool are certainly still in their best form, but who can guarantee they will stay like this throughout the season? I don't think there is.
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I think a lot of people don’t realize that this is the only season where Manchester City have actually started well. Manchester City have a track record of getting good results from January and then winning the Premier league. I wouldn’t be tooo excited about City losing four games when we still have 27 games to go. Manchester City are far from being out of the title race this season. EPL fans desperately want another team to win the league this season so it doesn’t look like City are farming the league.
The truth is that Manchester City under Pep Guardiola is one team you can't actually undermine when they're mathematically not out of the race to win trophy. We've seen them come from behind on some occasions to win the league so coming back from five points that they're currently trailing league leaders Liverpool at the moment is very possible but I also think that they'll face more difficult competition this season than they've never faced in the league of Liverpool continues with their current form. I don't think anyone who knows how lethal Manchester City is would want to write them off but I have a strong feeling they'll not win the league this season
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Manchester City and Liverpool currently have a 5 point gap in the standings and I don't think this is an impossible gap to overcome. Manchester City just needs to improve their performance and wait for Liverpool's mistakes, this will increase the pressure on Liverpool.
People are already losing confidence in Manchester City with the way their performance has dropped, and most people are thinking it’s going to be difficult for Manchester city to bounce back due to injury problem which they are facing, but I will say it’s still early, Manchester City can’t continue performing poorly, and the gap between Manchester City, and Liverpool is still close, it’s not that much that we will think Manchester city won’t be able to cover up, just that Guardiola will have to fix the current problem Manchester City is having early.

I agree with you that it is possible for Manchester City to overcome Liverpool. Manchester City has also overcome Arsenal in the last two seasons, and I will not argue about that. However, the truth is that Liverpool is very strong at this moment. It is possible they maintain this strength until the end of the season and never give Manchester City the chance to surpass them.

As for me, the most favored team to win the Premier League title this season is Liverpool. However, let's keep watching since the season has not yet reached its middle There are still many matches to play. I would also like to point out that even Arsenal and Chelsea still have some chances to win the league if Liverpool is affected by injuries. If that happens, Liverpool's performance will surely decline, and Chelsea and Arsenal may try to close the points gap.Currently, there is a 9 points difference with Liverpool at the top of the table.
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