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Quote from: hahay on January 06, 2025, 11:04:59 AM

There will be a match between Wolves vs Nottingham, about head to head with draws result often occur for their matches. However, at this moment Nottingham is in third place with 37 points, and Wolves is in 17th place with only 16 points. If I only consider their trends so far this season, even though Nottingham is playing away, I personally still believe Nottingham will win.

I don’t think wolves will be able to get a win in the match, their performance has been so poor this season, they are currently in 17th position which is very close to relegation zone, any slight mistake from them, we will see them in relegation zone. The best thing which Nottingham forest should do is not to underestimate them, because we have seen wolves give some clubs difficult time, wolves were able to secure a win against, Manchester United, Leicester City, played draw against Tottenham, and were able to get a draw when they played the first leg against Nottingham forest, so wolves is not a club which Nottingham forest should underestimate, so that they won’t end up being surprised.

Nottingham Forest is currently in 3rd position. I know they can’t win the league title, but if they are really dedicated and are working hard, they should be able to qualify for the Champions League. All they should do is make sure they keep on winning most of their matches, which I know is what’s going to be their target.

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Basically Manchester United performance was very good last night, Ruben Amorim men were able to hold the standings holder, Liverpool, although only bringing home 1 point but this is a good thing for Manchester United of course, players will be more confident to face the next match.

Before this match was played, Manchester United had always lost in four matches in all competitions, but when playing at Anfield, Amorim's troops managed to show something different, they managed to make Liverpool have trouble and ended the match with a score of 2-2. Liverpool struggled to control the game after going 2-1 up as Manchester United players continued to press by sending direct passes into their defensive area. This strategy was very effective and they managed to steal a point at Anfield and end their poor results in the last four matches.

They didn't just steal a point at Anfield, they did even almost got all 3 points if not for that costly missed by Harry Maguire.

I spoke about Manchester United giving their all in that game if they just don't want to be humiliated and I can say Liverpool didn't expect this from them, I guessed they thought this would be an easy win but against rivalry teams Manchester United often try to do well. In their next Epl game against Southampton I don't expect much from them though.

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Quote from: hahay on January 06, 2025, 11:04:59 AM

There will be a match between Wolves vs Nottingham, about head to head with draws result often occur for their matches. However, at this moment Nottingham is in third place with 37 points, and Wolves is in 17th place with only 16 points. If I only consider their trends so far this season, even though Nottingham is playing away, I personally still believe Nottingham will win.

However, even though they have a very large distance in the standings, it seems that Nottingham is also not fully projected to win if I use the odds as a reference. Because after all, Wolves have also managed to not lose in their last three matches, and that is another input to consider whether Nottingham will really succeed in winning or not in this match, because it seems that Wolves may also slowly rise.

Nottingham could literally catch up with Arsenal, which I think is an impressive fact. I hope they can maintain the momentum and achieve something great this season. I think it is great for a league if an underdog team like Nottingham can cause other teams to raise their eyebrows. Nottingham in the Champions League next season, why not. I think there annual budget for players is like one third of that of the clubs like Chelsea and Liverpool and other high calibre teams. It is a bit similar to what Leicester City has once done, but in that season when they won the Premier League title, the difference was that there was not a dominant team like Liverpool now is. But still I think the Champions League is possible for them.

It's strange though to see that they have by far the worst offense, but if they score they can apparently handle those leads very well and bring it home. The game against the Wolves is a great chance to increase the distance to Chelsea and Newcastle.

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Quote from: Ondekinecakabilirim on January 06, 2025, 10:19:20 AM

There is only one match in the English Premier League today. Wolverhampton will play against Nottingham Forest. Wolverhampton started to get very good results under the management of Vitor Pereira. They have 7 points in their last 3 games. They beat Leicester City and Manchester United. They drew with Tottenham. Vitor Pereira has touched them with a magic touch. On the other hand, Nottingham Forest have won their last 5 matches. They are currently 3rd in the league. And if they win this match, they will reach the same points with Arsenal. This is a match between two teams that have been playing good football lately. Nottingham Forest are close to victory. But I will bet on both teams to score a goal.

This is a very important match for Nottingham Forest, because by winning this match, they will not only get the same points as Arsenal, but will also maintain their position in third place in the standings, because considering the distance between Nottingham Forest and Chelsea is very thin, only one point apart, as well as Newcastle which is only 2 points apart. With tight competition, Nottingham Forest must get full points in every match.

Furthermore, if we look at the statistics between Nottingham Forest and Wolves, of course Nottingham is more favored than Wolves, and hopefully this is not only on paper, but also their absence on the field. This is an opportunity for Nottingham Forest to get 3 full points, because if we look at the next match, they will face a fairly difficult team, namely Liverpool.

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Quote from: Pandorak on January 06, 2025, 08:41:33 AM

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I agree with you and that was really beyond expectation. I thought this match would be a massacre because Man United's performance was very bad before, while Liverpool is in the opposite form. But unexpectedly Man United played quite well and they didn't make things easy for Liverpool. This cannot be used as a sign that they will get better, but at least they are showing good progress from before.

Now it remains to be seen whether Amorim can maintain this progress, or perhaps he will spring a surprise by bringing a new player to Old Trafford.

Basically Manchester United performance was very good last night, Ruben Amorim men were able to hold the standings holder, Liverpool, although only bringing home 1 point but this is a good thing for Manchester United of course, players will be more confident to face the next match.

To be honest i was a bit surprised when the game was about to end, Harry Maguire almost made a goal, he looked free there, no one was guarding him, but his shot went high over the goal, for a few moments i was pensive, if it had been a goal, this would have been the main topic.

I am totally impressed and happy with the result of the game. It didn’t come as a surprise to me though because the Manchester United I know is known for doing well in big games like this. Only wished they won this game I would have been the happiest person on earth. Good job Amorim and the entire Manchester United team, they pushed Liverpool so hard at Anfield I could see Liverpool players in fear when Manchester United scored the first goal.

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Quote from: hahay on January 06, 2025, 11:04:59 AM

There will be a match between Wolves vs Nottingham, about head to head with draws result often occur for their matches. However, at this moment Nottingham is in third place with 37 points, and Wolves is in 17th place with only 16 points. If I only consider their trends so far this season, even though Nottingham is playing away, I personally still believe Nottingham will win.

However, even though they have a very large distance in the standings, it seems that Nottingham is also not fully projected to win if I use the odds as a reference. Because after all, Wolves have also managed to not lose in their last three matches, and that is another input to consider whether Nottingham will really succeed in winning or not in this match, because it seems that Wolves may also slowly rise.

Wolves will try to get the best result in the match. They successfully scored to hold Tottenham to a draw and beat United. Nottingham may have given us a lot of surprises this season with the results in the standings, but hopefully, they can maintain that.
Nottingham should have the advantage in the match considering some of the performances shown, they only lost badly when facing strong teams like Arsenal and Man City. They can even get an advantage from Liverpool. This season they are extraordinary, hopefully, it can continue in the match against Wolves.

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Most people are going to bet against a MU that has not Been Able to win for anything in the world and they are or are going to do it against the number 1 in the table , it is very easy to establish that Liverpool will run over them, although there have been cases where the Last one in the table is capable of beating the first one in the table, for me it will not be a very Complicated match for Liverpool if they play as they have played in the last matches, but if they change strategies and get confident they can go down and end up losing against MU, in the same way these PL matches make Sunday a much more pleasant day.

Manchester United are going through a very difficult time, if I'm not mistaken, these are the most difficult times for the team in their entire history. And Liverpool are in optimal shape and beat all opponents both in the Premier League and in the Champions League, so I think they will have no difficulty beating such a Manchester United. Actually, after the dismissal of ten Hag, Manchester United became even worse, so I don't see any reason why they could beat Liverpool.

It's true that Manchester United are going through a difficult time. They are not performing consistently at the moment but yesterday they unexpectedly performed very well against Liverpool. Before the start of this match, many Liverpool fans thought that they could easily win against Manchester United. But Manchester United came out strong yesterday and looked like they might win the game. Especially the most important turning point in the match between Liverpool and Manchester United was Lisandro Martinez's goal. We saw that Manchester United draw against Liverpool in that match held at Anfield.

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There will be a match between Wolves vs Nottingham, about head to head with draws result often occur for their matches. However, at this moment Nottingham is in third place with 37 points, and Wolves is in 17th place with only 16 points. If I only consider their trends so far this season, even though Nottingham is playing away, I personally still believe Nottingham will win.

However, even though they have a very large distance in the standings, it seems that Nottingham is also not fully projected to win if I use the odds as a reference. Because after all, Wolves have also managed to not lose in their last three matches, and that is another input to consider whether Nottingham will really succeed in winning or not in this match, because it seems that Wolves may also slowly rise.

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Basically Manchester United performance was very good last night, Ruben Amorim men were able to hold the standings holder, Liverpool, although only bringing home 1 point but this is a good thing for Manchester United of course, players will be more confident to face the next match.

Before this match was played, Manchester United had always lost in four matches in all competitions, but when playing at Anfield, Amorim's troops managed to show something different, they managed to make Liverpool have trouble and ended the match with a score of 2-2. Liverpool struggled to control the game after going 2-1 up as Manchester United players continued to press by sending direct passes into their defensive area. This strategy was very effective and they managed to steal a point at Anfield and end their poor results in the last four matches.

I think Man United deserved that 1 point because they tried very hard to make it happen. It was quite unfortunate that Maguire could not take advantage of a good chance, but with the high pressure in that match, I can see why Maguire failed to score. Even though they could only get 1 point, but it was good progress.

Not just any team can hold Liverpool to a draw at Anfield and it's quite rare to see Liverpool feeling nervous, but that's exactly what happened when Man United managed to break the deadlock.

Liverpool is not a team to be pressured, they can play comfortably in all their matches, they sometimes lose points against most teams, even in those matches they play quite well.
Manchester United was able to disrupt Liverpool's game yesterday, Manchester United perhaps even had a chance to win, Maguire spent generously in the match.
He probably thought that the chance to win would be enough in a draw.

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Quote from: Woodie on January 04, 2025, 12:43:19 PM

Great to see Haaland getting more than one goal and most importantly team Manchester City winning another one...but their defense needs some work because better teams than Westham will easily get goals over them.

Of course, it was great to watch Haaland score a brace against West Ham after suffering in the previous games. Haaland has had some difficult times this season since he hasn't scored as many goals as he normally does. Haaland was the top scorer in the Premier League for the previous two seasons, but Mohamed Salah presently leads the Premier League goal scorer with 18 goals, while Haaland has 16 goals. There is a chance Haaland may defeat Salah before the season ends, but it is too early to make the prediction considering Salah is in top form this season.

Quote from: pawel7777 on January 04, 2025, 05:33:05 PM

It looks like Man City is back and hopefully the worst is behind them. A convincing 4-1 win over West Ham although I'm slightly concerned about West Ham having more shots on goal.
Unfortunately it's too late for the Citizens to hope for defending their Premier League title, but at least they should be able to put up a good fight for the top 4.

Manchester City was lucky to win against West Ham by scoring four goals, leading in ball possession and seven shots on target, compared to West Ham's four and one goal. However, we cannot be sure that Manchester City will be able to compete for the title after winning the game against West Ham; they need to win four or five straight games before we can be sure that they will be able to do so this season because they haven't added any players.

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Quote from: Ondekinecakabilirim on January 06, 2025, 10:19:20 AM

There is only one match in the English Premier League today. Wolverhampton will play against Nottingham Forest. Wolverhampton started to get very good results under the management of Vitor Pereira. They have 7 points in their last 3 games. They beat Leicester City and Manchester United. They drew with Tottenham. Vitor Pereira has touched them with a magic touch. On the other hand, Nottingham Forest have won their last 5 matches. They are currently 3rd in the league. And if they win this match, they will reach the same points with Arsenal. This is a match between two teams that have been playing good football lately. Nottingham Forest are close to victory. But I will bet on both teams to score a goal.

The assumption you said is very true and it makes me more confident that both teams will end in a draw. We can see the odds of both teams that have a very close difference and a draw can still happen because Wolves as the host are currently also improving.
So I am sure Wolves will not give up easily and choose a draw rather than having to lose at home. Although Nottingham is more consistent, a team that is below the standings like this can always be a surprise for the team that is currently at the top.
And your choice to choose BTTS is very right because my prediction is that both teams will end 1-1 or 2-2.

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Quote from: reagansimms on January 06, 2025, 09:14:49 AM

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Basically Manchester United performance was very good last night, Ruben Amorim men were able to hold the standings holder, Liverpool, although only bringing home 1 point but this is a good thing for Manchester United of course, players will be more confident to face the next match.

Before this match was played, Manchester United had always lost in four matches in all competitions, but when playing at Anfield, Amorim's troops managed to show something different, they managed to make Liverpool have trouble and ended the match with a score of 2-2. Liverpool struggled to control the game after going 2-1 up as Manchester United players continued to press by sending direct passes into their defensive area. This strategy was very effective and they managed to steal a point at Anfield and end their poor results in the last four matches.

Manchester United's form in their last five games in all competitions I believe was the reason why Liverpool were backed by many to win the game especially when we all knew that Liverpool were flying high in all competitions they're playing this season but Ruben Amorim succeeded in taking a point from same game many thought they'll easily lose. Hopefully for them, they continue to improve from there

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There is only one match in the English Premier League today. Wolverhampton will play against Nottingham Forest. Wolverhampton started to get very good results under the management of Vitor Pereira. They have 7 points in their last 3 games. They beat Leicester City and Manchester United. They drew with Tottenham. Vitor Pereira has touched them with a magic touch. On the other hand, Nottingham Forest have won their last 5 matches. They are currently 3rd in the league. And if they win this match, they will reach the same points with Arsenal. This is a match between two teams that have been playing good football lately. Nottingham Forest are close to victory. But I will bet on both teams to score a goal.

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To be honest Manchester United surprised me and a lot of other people after holding hot favourite Liverpool to share the points.
Perhaps the bad weather caused by snow❄️ could have helped them, but they surely played better and almost got maximum point's against the Reds...and more surprisingly was one of the unlikely goal scorer by Martinez who got the opener before Gapko got Liverpool back in the game almost immediately, and Utd players should be blam themselves for allowing that goal to come so sooner, otherwise good game.

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We are also not disappointed with yesterday's result because Liverpool was still able to maintain the match, only losing once in 19 matches in the Premier League.
Manchester United were lucky and Liverpool were also lucky. At the end of the match Liverpool almost lost, but it didn't happen. That's where Liverpool was lucky.

This was suppose to say "Manchester United were unlucky and Liverpool were also lucky" because we all watched this game and Liverpool were below the standard we know of how the play unlike struggling Utd that came with their A game and shocked us all with their superb game.

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Quote from: reagansimms on January 06, 2025, 09:14:49 AM

Quote from: Pandorak on January 06, 2025, 08:41:33 AM

Basically Manchester United performance was very good last night, Ruben Amorim men were able to hold the standings holder, Liverpool, although only bringing home 1 point but this is a good thing for Manchester United of course, players will be more confident to face the next match.

Before this match was played, Manchester United had always lost in four matches in all competitions, but when playing at Anfield, Amorim's troops managed to show something different, they managed to make Liverpool have trouble and ended the match with a score of 2-2. Liverpool struggled to control the game after going 2-1 up as Manchester United players continued to press by sending direct passes into their defensive area. This strategy was very effective and they managed to steal a point at Anfield and end their poor results in the last four matches.

I think Man United deserved that 1 point because they tried very hard to make it happen. It was quite unfortunate that Maguire could not take advantage of a good chance, but with the high pressure in that match, I can see why Maguire failed to score. Even though they could only get 1 point, but it was good progress.

Not just any team can hold Liverpool to a draw at Anfield and it's quite rare to see Liverpool feeling nervous, but that's exactly what happened when Man United managed to break the deadlock.

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Quote from: Pandorak on January 06, 2025, 08:41:33 AM

Quote from: abhiseshakana on January 06, 2025, 06:57:41 AM

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Basically Manchester United performance was very good last night, Ruben Amorim men were able to hold the standings holder, Liverpool, although only bringing home 1 point but this is a good thing for Manchester United of course, players will be more confident to face the next match.

Before this match was played, Manchester United had always lost in four matches in all competitions, but when playing at Anfield, Amorim's troops managed to show something different, they managed to make Liverpool have trouble and ended the match with a score of 2-2. Liverpool struggled to control the game after going 2-1 up as Manchester United players continued to press by sending direct passes into their defensive area. This strategy was very effective and they managed to steal a point at Anfield and end their poor results in the last four matches.

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Quote from: Lannakosa on January 06, 2025, 06:13:07 AM

One good match is not an indicator, but it can be a start. I will say honestly I did not expect that Manchester United would be able to play at least a draw against Liverpool and it seems that everyone thought so, and maybe Liverpool underestimated the guests. Before this Manchester United received 4 defeats and for Amorim it was very bad, he urgently needed to change something, and a draw with Liverpool will add confidence to him, but the most important thing is that they stop losing in the next games.

It seems that Liverpool did not underestimate Manchester United for their poor results so far, including since Amorim became Manchester United coach. We played as usual and did not consider any opponent a weak team. Maybe this draw was unexpected, but in fact they managed to bring home 1 point.
The result of yesterday's match, we are not disappointed even though we hope our team can secure full points and get further away from the team that is now in second place in the standings.

We are also not disappointed with yesterday's result because Liverpool was still able to maintain the match, only losing once in 19 matches in the Premier League.
Manchester United were lucky and Liverpool were also lucky. At the end of the match Liverpool almost lost, but it didn't happen. That's where Liverpool was lucky.

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Quote from: abhiseshakana on January 06, 2025, 06:57:41 AM

I agree with you and that was really beyond expectation. I thought this match would be a massacre because Man United's performance was very bad before, while Liverpool is in the opposite form. But unexpectedly Man United played quite well and they didn't make things easy for Liverpool. This cannot be used as a sign that they will get better, but at least they are showing good progress from before.

Now it remains to be seen whether Amorim can maintain this progress, or perhaps he will spring a surprise by bringing a new player to Old Trafford.

Basically Manchester United performance was very good last night, Ruben Amorim men were able to hold the standings holder, Liverpool, although only bringing home 1 point but this is a good thing for Manchester United of course, players will be more confident to face the next match.

To be honest i was a bit surprised when the game was about to end, Harry Maguire almost made a goal, he looked free there, no one was guarding him, but his shot went high over the goal, for a few moments i was pensive, if it had been a goal, this would have been the main topic.

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After all, Manchester City's bad run was not going to last forever. They are going back to factory settings. Even if the title seems impossible this season, they have the Champions League and other competitions at their disposal. They'll also try to finish in the best position in the league. Haaland is scoring goals again. Foden has also been quiet for a long time, he should continue to contribute goals.

Yes, it looks like they've found their best performance, De Bruyne has show his quality play maker at this time, Foden also back like before, he know how to take advantage of the situation and place his position to get ball, and for sure Haaland was the star player again last night, he found his confidence again, his instincts are back to sharp after create the 2nd ball. I think Pep is quite happy with the squad. he began to restore fighting spirit the squad. This is what the fans have been waiting for, because they lose too often, so it is difficult to achieve victory if without a win in last night.

De Bruyne's form is crucial for Manchester City. The better this attacking midfielder plays, the better the performance of all the other players in the team will be. No matter how many finishers you talk about, if the player doesn't supply them with a good ball from midfield, finishers can't do much in a match. The Belgian midfielder played an important role in the last match Manchester City played and Manchester City won by a big margin. His injury problems as well as his lack of form combined have led Manchester City to underperform in several matches. With this same team and if De Bruyne's performance remains unchanged, they will do well in the upcoming matches. Manchester City will continue to do well as long as De Bruyne and the rest of the 10 players play, but when the players try to play other strategies without this player, their chances of doing well will decrease.

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Even they are bad, they were able to get 1 point on Liverpool's home last night. This is an accomplishment in amidst their poor performance on the previous match. I don't now what kind of criteria for management to put the player on market, because some of them still fits for the team, a player like Amad Diallo, Mazraoui, and Dalot is look good playing last night. So I think the management should think it who is worthy because if they sell the wrong one, it will interfere with MU's performance next.

One good match is not an indicator, but it can be a start. I will say honestly I did not expect that Manchester United would be able to play at least a draw against Liverpool and it seems that everyone thought so, and maybe Liverpool underestimated the guests. Before this Manchester United received 4 defeats and for Amorim it was very bad, he urgently needed to change something, and a draw with Liverpool will add confidence to him, but the most important thing is that they stop losing in the next games.

In the last match in the English Premier League, Manchester United and Liverpool had a tough competition even though Manchester United scored the first goal and created great excitement throughout the stadium. The first goal was very important for Manchester United and scoring first against Liverpool on an average pitch was certainly a good start for Manchester United. However, when Manchester United scored a goal, Liverpool did not take much time to repay this goal. In a short time, Liverpool paid this goal and later on, Liverpool went ahead with another goal through a penalty. However, at the end of the match, Manchester United scored another great goal to equalize the team and at the end of 90 minutes, the two teams shared one point each in this important match of the Premier League. This match was really important for Manchester United and they managed to perform well in this tough match.

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