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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on December 29, 2024, 06:37:59 PM

Quote from: Slow death on December 29, 2024, 05:20:16 PM

West Ham 0 - 5 Liverpool (I confess that I expected Liverpool to win, but I didn't expect them to score 5 goals)

5 freaking goals sheeshhhhh!!!! That's cold! Salah was running around like captain cruch, looking for other possibilities to make it 7 or more I guess.. These boys have picked really fine form and the game seems too small for them to play in Grin

oh, get over it, that's just an exaggeration.. Delulu !!!

I'd really love us to take a look at Alexander- Arnold's goal today... What in the heavens was that easy flick with the ball? Before I realized what happened, it was in the net.... I was just as startled as the keeper.

5 goals seems like too many, but West Ham has resisted teams of their own caliber on their home ground. They have either defeated or drawn against teams of their caliber, but have lost to all the championship contenders. City, Chelsea and Arsenal have defeated West Ham very easily.

Arsenal even scored 5 goals.

As for Liverpool, they are a very fit team and have an 8 point lead over their closest pursuer Nottingham. Despite having 1 game less than Nottingham.

If nothing untoward happens, the Premier League champion will be determined in April this year. The biggest candidate is Liverpool.

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I have been reading a lot of criticism of Amorim tactics, Manchester United fans should be patient and try to forge a new path with this manager. Mikel Arteta wasn’t that great in the beginning but he’s now of the top managers in the Premier League. If Amorim is to succeed at Manchester United, he has be assured of the una wavering support of the fans and club management. When Amorim has signed his preferred choice of players, then we can start to expect him to succeed at the club. The previous manager, Erik ten Hag was a menace who almost ruined the club. He spent so much money to bring his former players to the club and they all flopped. I want to believe that Amorim will be better than his predecessor.

If they will be patient with Amorim, there is no doubt it will be fine with the team but you should understand that Manchester United fans have gone through a lot this season so the expectation is that the coming of Ruben Amorim will change the situation completely but instead of that to happen, it seems Manchester United is situation remains the same as they were during the time of Erik Ten Hag. I won't say that change of coach failed them because Amorim is relatively new in the team and deserve more time to prove himself.

Having relied on the wrong man for so long, if Manchester United cannot rely on the right man then it will be a major failure for them. Manchester United now has a proper manager in charge so he will have to give him time if Manchester United expect a lot of success from him very quickly then this will not be possible. The current manager of Manchester United is a man like ten other managers. If he is expected to produce results like a machine, it is not possible with this manager. But if Manchester United give this manager enough time and give him financial freedom, I believe he will lead Manchester United to a good position and win major tournaments for Manchester United.

Coaching Manchester United is not a privilege. When the camera focuses on the new coach, I can see how much he is struggling and living through a real nightmare. The team has been cursed for many years, and there is no clear evidence of the reason. Even players, when they join Manchester United, quickly become unskilled or lazy (such as Casemiro) and not good enough to represent the Red Devils. I think they need to give the coach enough time. Personally, I believe Mourinho was the best coach among them.

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Quote from: cryptoWODL on December 29, 2024, 11:18:47 PM

Manchester City finally won a match yesterday. The match they won against Leicester City can be a positive for them, Because they won yesterday after poor performances in many matches. Among the few more matches played yesterday, in one match Nottm Forest and Everton faced each other but in that match Nottm Forest won with a very good performance i.e. they won the match by 2-0 goals.

Good result, bad gameplay. That's what i got from City last night. I don't see something positive from them, except mcatee. It's embarrassing when City has so many young attakers, but they totally outperformed by Vardy in term of pressing.

It's such unacceptable thing. They played badly until McAtee came in. Their mid still nonexistent while their defense is still laughable. Hopefully pep can sort it out asap.

Quote from: cryptoWODL on December 29, 2024, 11:18:47 PM

The most interesting of these matches was Liverpool's match, they won again. Yesterday, Liverpool was able to win again against West Ham by a very large margin. The way Liverpool is consistently performing well in this year's Premier League, maybe no other team can consistently perform well like them.

It's more Salah's showdown. He gave everything he has in this game, and the way he was able using his alternate angle is so crazy as hell. If he stays, his club win PL title.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on December 29, 2024, 06:37:59 PM

5 freaking goals sheeshhhhh!!!! That's cold! Salah was running around like captain cruch, looking for other possibilities to make it 7 or more I guess.. These boys have picked really fine form and the game seems too small for them to play in Grin

oh, get over it, that's just an exaggeration.. Delulu !!!

I'd really love us to take a look at Alexander- Arnold's goal today... What in the heavens was that easy flick with the ball? Before I realized what happened, it was in the net.... I was just as startled as the keeper.

That's right, I agree with your opinion, It's very nice to see this match, from the beginning of the match it can be seen that Liverpool has been very dominating, like there is no hope for West Ham to win, this match is an unlucky day for the goalkeeper, conceding 5 goals is a shame, lol.

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Quote from: cryptoWODL on December 29, 2024, 11:18:47 PM

Manchester City finally won a match yesterday. The match they won against Leicester City can be a positive for them, Because they won yesterday after poor performances in many matches. Among the few more matches played yesterday, in one match Nottm Forest and Everton faced each other but in that match Nottm Forest won with a very good performance i.e. they won the match by 2-0 goals.

The most interesting of these matches was Liverpool's match, they won again. Yesterday, Liverpool was able to win again against West Ham by a very large margin. The way Liverpool is consistently performing well in this year's Premier League, maybe no other team can consistently perform well like them.

After experiencing a series of negative results, finally manchester city managed to win from a team that is in the relegation zone at the moment, although they won in the match but their performance in my opinion was not optimal, especially in defence line, but I think this victory can be a momentum for them to return to positive ways and improve their position in the current standings.

Nottingham Forest managed to destroy everton very solid defence after two goals they managed to create against pickford, previously everton can get points from big teams like arsenal and chelsea, but against nottingham became a nightmare for them in that match.

Liverpool again appeared extraordinary, although they had difficulties at the beginning of the match but they managed to destroy Westham with a landslide score in the end match, the victory over Westham further made Liverpool firmly at the top of the standings with 45 points, as well as Salah who is currently the top score of the English league 17 goals.

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City are already out of the title race, their results don't matter. As for the other participants, I think they are already demoralized by the incredible results of Liverpool, they look invincible. Considering that for Arsenal, second place is like a curse, I don't think they have positive emotions about the fact that they have a big chance of silverware. Maybe Chelsea have such enthusiasm, but they are still not ready for the race.

After Liverpool managed to close out the 2024 season with a big win at West Ham, Manchester City chances of retaining the EPL title are certainly getting smaller. Arne Slot team seemed unstoppable, they played so fiercely without caring where they were playing. West Ham became the latest victim of Liverpool's might in 2024, victory over Southampton in the previous match could not help them match the power that Liverpool possessed.

Liverpool are now increasingly solid at the top of the standings, now they are 8 points ahead of Nottingham Forest and 9 points ahead of Arsenal. While Man City are still fighting to return to the top four, the win over Leicester City ended a series of poor results in the last few matches.

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Manchester City finally won a match yesterday. The match they won against Leicester City can be a positive for them, Because they won yesterday after poor performances in many matches. Among the few more matches played yesterday, in one match Nottm Forest and Everton faced each other but in that match Nottm Forest won with a very good performance i.e. they won the match by 2-0 goals.

The most interesting of these matches was Liverpool's match, they won again. Yesterday, Liverpool was able to win again against West Ham by a very large margin. The way Liverpool is consistently performing well in this year's Premier League, maybe no other team can consistently perform well like them.

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I have been reading a lot of criticism of Amorim tactics, Manchester United fans should be patient and try to forge a new path with this manager. Mikel Arteta wasn’t that great in the beginning but he’s now of the top managers in the Premier League. If Amorim is to succeed at Manchester United, he has be assured of the una wavering support of the fans and club management. When Amorim has signed his preferred choice of players, then we can start to expect him to succeed at the club. The previous manager, Erik ten Hag was a menace who almost ruined the club. He spent so much money to bring his former players to the club and they all flopped. I want to believe that Amorim will be better than his predecessor.

If they will be patient with Amorim, there is no doubt it will be fine with the team but you should understand that Manchester United fans have gone through a lot this season so the expectation is that the coming of Ruben Amorim will change the situation completely but instead of that to happen, it seems Manchester United is situation remains the same as they were during the time of Erik Ten Hag. I won't say that change of coach failed them because Amorim is relatively new in the team and deserve more time to prove himself.

Having relied on the wrong man for so long, if Manchester United cannot rely on the right man then it will be a major failure for them. Manchester United now has a proper manager in charge so he will have to give him time if Manchester United expect a lot of success from him very quickly then this will not be possible. The current manager of Manchester United is a man like ten other managers. If he is expected to produce results like a machine, it is not possible with this manager. But if Manchester United give this manager enough time and give him financial freedom, I believe he will lead Manchester United to a good position and win major tournaments for Manchester United.

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Quote from: Slow death on December 29, 2024, 05:20:16 PM

West Ham 0 - 5 Liverpool (I confess that I expected Liverpool to win, but I didn't expect them to score 5 goals)

Liverpool have a very good form and they are like can not be stopped so far. With 8 points more than Nottingham Forest at the second postion, 9 and 10 points more than Arsenal and Chelsea at third and fourth positions, Liverpool will start a second part of season with very great advantage. They play well and create very good advantage for winning Premier League title. Inconsistency of Arsenal, Chelsea and Manchester City bring more opportunities for Liverpool to take the title.

Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on December 29, 2024, 06:37:59 PM

5 freaking goals sheeshhhhh!!!! That's cold! Salah was running around like captain cruch, looking for other possibilities to make it 7 or more I guess.. These boys have picked really fine form and the game seems too small for them to play in Grin

oh, get over it, that's just an exaggeration.. Delulu !!!

Salah scored only one goal but contributed 2 assists and generally he had very great contributions for Liverpool in this big win as well as in their first position too. This is an amazing season for Liverpool, Slot, Salah and the Red generally.

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I'd really love us to take a look at Alexander- Arnold's goal today... What in the heavens was that easy flick with the ball? Before I realized what happened, it was in the net.... I was just as startled as the keeper.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on December 29, 2024, 06:37:59 PM

5 freaking goals sheeshhhhh!!!! That's cold! Salah was running around like captain cruch, looking for other possibilities to make it 7 or more I guess.. These boys have picked really fine form and the game seems too small for them to play in Grin

oh, get over it, that's just an exaggeration.. Delulu !!!

I'd really love us to take a look at Alexander- Arnold's goal today... What in the heavens was that easy flick with the ball? Before I realized what happened, it was in the net.... I was just as startled as the keeper.

Salah always steals the attention in every Liverpool match, he is so active in scoring goals and contributing assists. The game is really beyond our expectations because I didn't expect Liverpool to score 5 goals at West Ham's home. The first 20 minutes of the match I predicted Liverpool would win by a narrow score but since the deadlock was broken by Diaz in the 30th minute, Liverpool's game has become more aggressive in attacking.

There are so many good passes made by Liverpool, they even didn't let West Ham threaten their defense line at all. A good strategy and also the players are in their best form. A good opportunity can be utilized by Liverpool where they routinely locked 3 points in the previous 3 matches. I think for the time being there is very little chance for other teams to disturb Liverpool's position at the top of the standings, they have performed extraordinarily this season.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on December 29, 2024, 03:05:19 PM

Manchester City won, what a strange event.
Not so sweet win thinking about on how Liverpool destroyed for 5-0 West Ham.

Many games still have to be played in this turn but nothing and noone seems able to stop them.
Arsenal and Chelasea must win tomorrow and now they are under big pressure.

City are already out of the title race, their results don't matter. As for the other participants, I think they are already demoralized by the incredible results of Liverpool, they look invincible. Considering that for Arsenal, second place is like a curse, I don't think they have positive emotions about the fact that they have a big chance of silverware. Maybe Chelsea have such enthusiasm, but they are still not ready for the race.

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Quote from: Slow death on December 29, 2024, 05:20:16 PM

West Ham 0 - 5 Liverpool (I confess that I expected Liverpool to win, but I didn't expect them to score 5 goals)

5 freaking goals sheeshhhhh!!!! That's cold! Salah was running around like captain cruch, looking for other possibilities to make it 7 or more I guess.. These boys have picked really fine form and the game seems too small for them to play in Grin

oh, get over it, that's just an exaggeration.. Delulu !!!

I'd really love us to take a look at Alexander- Arnold's goal today... What in the heavens was that easy flick with the ball? Before I realized what happened, it was in the net.... I was just as startled as the keeper.

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Manchester City finally found their spark at the end of this half of the season. Would this mean much for them? I don’t think. I think this is just luck finding them, after several damages to the squad and style of play. They would soon revert back to factory set.

Quote from: SUPERSAIAN on December 29, 2024, 05:57:30 PM

We watched another magnificent recital from Liverpool today. They beat West-Ham 5-0, they are playing great football, Liverpool are at a completely different level. There was a settled squad and there was a very good chemistry with Arne Slot in the team.

Muhammed Salah could have definitely scored 3-4 goals in this match, he missed too many. We see a Muhammed Salah who turns on prime mode again and again. It is really great how they can hang around so comfortably in such a difficult league.

Is there any catching up with this Liverpool team… I watched the game and was just waiting for that moment when West Ham United might turn the game around and look for that consolation goal, put Liverpool under some more pressure but nope, that didn’t happen. It was just Liverpool over and over again. They just tightening there grip on the league still.

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We watched another magnificent recital from Liverpool today. They beat West-Ham 5-0, they are playing great football, Liverpool are at a completely different level. There was a settled squad and there was a very good chemistry with Arne Slot in the team.

Muhammed Salah could have definitely scored 3-4 goals in this match, he missed too many. We see a Muhammed Salah who turns on prime mode again and again. It is really great how they can hang around so comfortably in such a difficult league.

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Quote from: Woodie on December 29, 2024, 02:28:37 PM

This Liverpool team puts a smile on me whenever I watch them...their football just flaws and at the moment so many attacking options and I don't think a couple of injuries that will be coming will slow them down! Gapko has found his form at the right time and this guarantees his start with the other 10...can't wait to see them demolish Utd Grin

The hammers just got hammered 🔨 by 5 answered goals by ruthless Liverpool and I don't think they will let this title race slip them...GG to the new Champs Cool

Basically West Ham is not a good opponent for Liverpool because after all I don't see them showing their best game. Liverpool took advantage of many opportunities to create a large goal margin so that everything looked perfect. Salah also scored a goal in that match which allowed him to keep a safe distance from his competition with Haaland in the top scorer standings, so now it looks like things are going according to plan.

I agree with you that Liverpool are almost guaranteed to win the title this season, but the season is still very long and things can change very quickly. If Liverpool lose several important players due to injury, then I think their performance will also be affected like Manchester City and other teams.

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Really surprised that Manchester city won today and they kept a clean sheet. It's really been a long time we have seen city win and keep a clean sheet in a premier league game this season. I knew Liverpool were going to win Westham, but I didn't expect the goals will get to 5 without Westham replying despite the fact that they were playing from home. The surprising result for me today was Nottingham forest winning Everton at away. Everton that played draws with three big teams in the premier league, were won by Nottingham forest team, that's really surprising. Nottingham forest have moved to second position in the premier League. What if Nottingham forest are title contenders, can they really provide real competition for Liverpool in the title race? Nobody saw this coming from a Nottingham forest team. The premier League is really crazy this season. Can Nottingham forest repeat what Leicester city did in 2016?

No, Nottingham won't be able to do it because Liverpool leads the standings with so many points gap. Nottingham are not expected to be strong throughout the season and over time they may lose their consistency and drop below the Champions League places. I think it makes sense and Arsenal and Chelsea and Manchester City take over. But you are right, this season the Premier League is really different.

The Nottingham team, in my opinion, is the team that is surprising me the most. We hardly see a team like Nottingham occupying the top four positions for a long time as we are seeing this season. If they continue with this consistency, I believe they can finish in the position that allows them to go to the European Champions League and the coach would be seen very well by Nottingham fans and the club's management.

Yesterday's games that surprised me:

West Ham 0 - 5 Liverpool (I confess that I expected Liverpool to win, but I didn't expect them to score 5 goals)

Leycester 0 - 2 Manchester City (I confess that I didn't expect Manchester City not to concede a goal in this game)

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on December 29, 2024, 01:20:41 PM

Last season was a tough one for Moises Caicedo under Mauricio Pochettino I must say, but life under Enzo Maresca has indeed made him flourished like the player I originally watched when he was still a player for Brighton. He has been my best player so far this season for Chelsea even though I'm also a huge fan of Cole Palmer. I see a lot of disrespect channeled towards him game after game but indeed he is the engine for them. He reminds me of Ngolo Kante I must say.

This stats is impressive and it’s good to have a player that performs well and can be compared to Ngolo Kante of those days in Chelsea. They really play alike and I like how he coordinated the midfield and wins a lot of tackle for the team. Chelsea has indeed been doing well and all thanks to the collective effort of the team put together. Cole Palmer is also a big contributor to the success of Chelsea this season and we can’t fail to acknowledge him for that also. I hope Chelsea can continue this great performance and make it to the top of the league table before the end of the season.

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Manchester City is currently in 5th position with 31 points, and Liverpool, which is in first position, is ahead of Liverpool with 14 points, and Liverpool is still having an outstanding match to play. I think this point gap will just be difficult for Manchester City to cover up because Liverpool is also doing everything possible to keep on getting their three points every week, and Manchester City performance has not been so good.

Manchester City still needs to show more of this performance in the coming weeks if they really want to finish the season on a very good position. They are left behind and their position on the league table will not give them a qualification to the champions league even if the season ends today. They should just fight to retain a position in the first four positions and forget about the league title because it doesn’t look like they’re going to win it.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on December 29, 2024, 01:20:41 PM

Last season was a tough one for Moises Caicedo under Mauricio Pochettino I must say, but life under Enzo Maresca has indeed made him flourished like the player I originally watched when he was still a player for Brighton. He has been my best player so far this season for Chelsea even though I'm also a huge fan of Cole Palmer. I see a lot of disrespect channeled towards him game after game but indeed he is the engine for them. He reminds me of Ngolo Kante I must say.

This is what he should show from a player with a price tag of 100 million because this is the kind of performance he always showed at Brighton before and was lost at Chelsea in the previous era.
Enzo Maresca seems to have managed to make some players return to the initial situation where Chelsea's movement and quality are increasing along with the confidence of some players in Enzo's performance at Chelsea.

He was quite successful in making some players who were previously difficult to develop their performance but Enzo was able to pump up the spirit so that their performance returned and one of those who got it now is Caicedo.

He was one of the better midfielders from the start because apart from his vision he is also quite dexterous in midfield especially with the calmness and speed he has, in fact he is quite good it's just that in the last few seasons he could not develop his performance which made him lose momentum a little but now it looks like he is getting his rhythm back in playing.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on December 29, 2024, 03:05:19 PM

Manchester City won, what a strange event.
Not so sweet win thinking about on how Liverpool destroyed for 5-0 West Ham.

Many games still have to be played in this turn but nothing and noone seems able to stop them.
Arsenal and Chelasea must win tomorrow and now they are under big pressure.

Manchester city win Today was actually very big boost for them as it pushes them up to the 5th position in the table and just one point behind the Chelsea in the top four with them playing tomorrow, one thing about city is the their early wins and that makes them still in the top four race, hopefully they can build on this win and grow their confidence.

Liverpool currently are a not a team to face now with even the form which Salah is on now, one goal two assists yet again, is he actually doing a sendOff season for Liverpool? For now he is the most consistent player and I think Liverpool should forget about his age and get a contract extension done fast

Nottingham Forest out two past the defensively strong Everton today to send them to the second position, seriously I had thought they would have the game difficult due to the way Everton took points off the other top four contenders but Nottingham Forest confirmed today that they are this season top four surprise

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Actually in this case it does not matter when we just have to wait for what Amorim will do especially since he is still relatively new to the EPL and obviously there is still a lot of time needed for adaptation but for now it seems that when a wave of poor performance occurs it will have an impact on the reaction that occurs considering the fans will want to see something new with what United is doing to improve its current position.

I think for now Amorim only has to try to improve Mancechster United's position a little bit so that it looks comfortable unlike now it is still tolerable but when the situation does not change much then it is clear that there will be a lot of demands even though they know that changing a club that is already chaotic like Mancehster United takes time.

They're 14th in the table and only 8 points clear of Leicester in the relegation zone so it's only fair that there's more pressure on Amorim at the moment.

Amorim will only try the best he can to make sure that Manchester United is not relegated because he met the team at a very critical situation what Manchester United is facing now is as a result of ETH wrong signing, ETH never signed any better players so it will take Amorim more time to fix back Manchester United if only his is given more time though his performance from February will determine if he will actually do well or not because I believe he will sign in some players during the transfer window.

Honestly there will be more pressure on Amorim expecially the one that will come from Manchester United fans because what the fans wants now is immediate improvement which is not even coming, what Manchester United needs now is good signing if the couch will be able to bring in some quality players to the team we will definitely see Manchester United performing better again.

Not getting relegated is not enough because after all, he is required to at least give his best performance because in the end, even though he needs time to make the squad better, we must be aware that when the position is not too comfortable to occupy in the standings, there will still be a lot of criticism for Amorim so to make sure not to get relegated (even if it is the worst possibility) is a certainty because it would be very stupid if Mancehster United were relegated. In addition, Amorim must also try to improve his quality in the next half of the season so that what the fans expect and the demands given are really answered with proof from Amorim as a coach.

When talking about fans it is a fairness because anyone does not want to see their favorite club not having a good performance so now Amorim when he was appointed and ready with all the pressure at the beginning when he signed a contract with Manchester United he must have known that this condition was a risk so he only had to prove his quality if he still wanted to be considered a coach at Manchester United.

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