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Quote from: Egii Nna on November 11, 2024, 11:11:31 AM

Manchester United's performance is getting better than we expected, and they will need to appreciate Ruud. Because he has tried his possible best for the team to see victory in their game, just take a look at their amazing performance since when he came to the team they are playing with surprises, which make many start wondering that most of their players can even play like this but they failed to do that. Understand the coach of Erick; indeed, if it is possible to maintain Ruud as their main coach, then the management needs to try their best to see that happen. At least they will bring back their reputation this season. Kudos to Ruud Van Nistelrooy.

Of course, appreciation must be given now because after all, replacing Ten Hag with the enormous pressure he has, especially to restore mentally because of the poor performance that is always there, obviously it requires extra energy and the facts on the field in 4 matches that Manchester United did during Ruud van Nistelrooy's tenure showed very good results which deserves great appreciation.

But now Manchester United have also appointed Amorim as head coach and this condition reminds me of the situation where Carrick and Fletcher did the same thing when Manchester United fired Ole and appointed Rangnick at that time.

Hopefully, these similar decisions won't lead to the same end result because Rangnick's time at Manchester United wasn't any better than Carrick and Fletcher's so I hope that the consistent form van Nistelrooy created won't be ruined by Amorim for adaptation and player reasons.

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Quote from: Zaguru12 on November 11, 2024, 02:09:26 PM

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I think Nistelrooy was warned in advance that he would be coach for literally a very short time. I think they wanted to fire Ten Hag a long time ago, but they did it only when they were sure that they would be able to get Amorim. According to the leaks, Amorim asked for the chance to finish the season at Sporting, but United management said it was now or never. Apparently they had completely run out of patience during the years when Ten Hag was coach Grin

Ten Hag brought in Van Nistrooy who was actually meant to go to Burnley then to replace the then departing head coach Vincent Kompany so Ten Hag actually getting sacked was definitely going to be also a dead end for Van Nistrooy Although the club hierarchy did wanted him to Stay on and continue as the assistant manager with Amorim, the new manager didn’t want that and that’s why he left and with an unbeaten record at United he will certainly soon get a chance to manager a club a again.

As for Manchester United keeping Ten Hag till Amorim comes I don’t think it was that but they did went after many managers when the Dutchman was still in charge. They just started the hunt for Amorim not to long ago

For someone that's coached a big team in Netherlands, coming to England to coach a relegated team would be like reducing his ranks, he's far better than that and should be coaching a first team in the Premier League, he's proved himself worthy by being unbeaten as an interim manager of Manchester United, something his boss Erik Ten Hag couldn't that led to his departure. Van Nistelrooy apart from bring a club legend is a very big fan of Manchester United, I think that's part of what motivated him to take the offer as an assistant manager, it's obvious that he was tired of Manchester United's decline in form and was really serious about helping them to get back to glory days. Well, Amorin is a good coach with a unique coaching style therefore I have no doubt about him, I can't wait to see him coach Manchester United till the winter window then I'll be sure if he'll be able to handle the task, coaching Manchester United is not an easy job many good coaches have tried with much success, I just wish Amorin would've worked with Van Nistelrooy cause I believe they've both made Manchester United great again.

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Quote from: Zaguru12 on November 11, 2024, 02:09:26 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on November 11, 2024, 12:53:18 PM

I think Nistelrooy was warned in advance that he would be coach for literally a very short time. I think they wanted to fire Ten Hag a long time ago, but they did it only when they were sure that they would be able to get Amorim. According to the leaks, Amorim asked for the chance to finish the season at Sporting, but United management said it was now or never. Apparently they had completely run out of patience during the years when Ten Hag was coach Grin

Ten Hag brought in Van Nistrooy who was actually meant to go to Burnley then to replace the then departing head coach Vincent Kompany so Ten Hag actually getting sacked was definitely going to be also a dead end for Van Nistrooy Although the club hierarchy did wanted him to Stay on and continue as the assistant manager with Amorim, the new manager didn’t want that and that’s why he left and with an unbeaten record at United he will certainly soon get a chance to manager a club a again.

As for Manchester United keeping Ten Hag till Amorim comes I don’t think it was that but they did went after many managers when the Dutchman was still in charge. They just started the hunt for Amorim not to long ago

For someone that's coached a big team in Netherlands, coming to England to coach a relegated team would be like reducing his ranks, he's far better than that and should be coaching a first team in the Premier League, he's proved himself worthy by being unbeaten as an interim manager of Manchester United, something his boss Erik Ten Hag couldn't that led to his departure. Van Nistelrooy apart from bring a club legend is a very big fan of Manchester United, I think that's part of what motivated him to take the offer as an assistant manager, it's obvious that he was tired of Manchester United's decline in form and was really serious about helping them to get back to glory days. Well, Amorin is a good coach with a unique coaching style therefore I have no doubt about him, I can't wait to see him coach Manchester United till the winter window then I'll be sure if he'll be able to handle the task, coaching Manchester United is not an easy job many good coaches have tried with much success, I just wish Amorin would've worked with Van Nistelrooy cause I believe they've both made Manchester United great again.

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Okay so, Manchester City started the losing streak with Tottenham on EFL cup, then lost to Bournemouth, then lost to Sporting and now they lost to Brighton? That looks like it has been something that didn't happen for 10 years or so now, they have been better than this for a long long time and I believe this is going to be something that is not going to be okay at all, Pep has to figure out whatever the problem is and fix it because we are not used to seeing City like this.

I can't say I am not enjoying it, after all they have been dominating enough and a few losses here and there is something that shows they are still human, and maybe people are figuring out how Pep makes the team play, or maybe this was just a few unlucky games I don't know. Whatever the deal is, leaving with the last year being a total failure would not be ok for Pep, he would want to win and that's how he would want to leave, not like this and that is why I am expecting him to do a fine job.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 11, 2024, 12:53:18 PM

I think Nistelrooy was warned in advance that he would be coach for literally a very short time. I think they wanted to fire Ten Hag a long time ago, but they did it only when they were sure that they would be able to get Amorim. According to the leaks, Amorim asked for the chance to finish the season at Sporting, but United management said it was now or never. Apparently they had completely run out of patience during the years when Ten Hag was coach Grin

Ten Hag brought in Van Nistrooy who was actually meant to go to Burnley then to replace the then departing head coach Vincent Kompany so Ten Hag actually getting sacked was definitely going to be also a dead end for Van Nistrooy Although the club hierarchy did wanted him to Stay on and continue as the assistant manager with Amorim, the new manager didn’t want that and that’s why he left and with an unbeaten record at United he will certainly soon get a chance to manager a club a again.

As for Manchester United keeping Ten Hag till Amorim comes I don’t think it was that but they did went after many managers when the Dutchman was still in charge. They just started the hunt for Amorim not to long ago

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Quote from: yudi09 on November 11, 2024, 09:50:33 AM

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Manchester United has shown a very good performance in yesterday match in which their players scored 3 goals and did not allow the opponent team to score a single goal and win the match.Manchester United are dead ahead as they have played a match before which they won. If prepare for such performance in the next matches too you will definitely win the match. They must not weaken it now or the matches they have won will be lost. Manchester United have decided to make themselves capable of what has won them and will continue to win them. But it has not become so strong that it will win every match in which there will be defeat in some matches. That will prove them weak for some time.Manchester United next match is against Ipswich let's see if they can win this match too.

Their fans started carrying signs that said thank you Ruud, please stay. This shows that Ruud van Nistelrooy has started to become Manchester United's savior for four matches without defeat. In my opinion, a transitional coach will not always be in the position and circumstances as he is now.
Indeed, Nistelrooy is making a good achievement. In four matches, Manchester United managed to win three and draw one with a total of 11 goals scored.

Don't forget how Liverpool performed extraordinarily under Arne Slot since Klopp left Anfield. But we didn't expect more from Slot in his first season.

Indeed, Ruud Van Nistelrooy has created a good standard for his career which may not only speak for him now but also in the future about the considerable improvement he was able to cast in to the Manchester United team as interim manager within the shortest period.

Now news has it that Amorin has just arrived at Manchester United today Monday, and he's start familiarizing with the players which is a good step in the right direction for a start. However, I have read many of Manchester United fans comments about their high expectations on the new manager, some even hope he would bring back the glory days as it were in Sir Alex Ferguson era.

My advise on these expectant fans is that they should keep their mind objectively about whatever Amorin has and could bring to the club. He's quite a good coach no doubt and could be the right coach United has been waiting for, but Manchester United isn't Sporting, neither the EPL likened to the Portugal league. The terrain differs and he might not start off with speed as they may be looking out for.

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Quote from: hahay on November 11, 2024, 11:19:12 AM

Ruben Amorim has arrived at Manchester United, and his first match after the international break later will be playing away against Ipswich. Obviously, it will be an easy match for Ruben Amorim who should be able to ensure a win for Manchester United. But to be honest, it's a shame that Ruud van Nistelrooy was only an interim coach, even though Ruud van Nistelrooy kept Manchester United without a defeat but that still led Manchester United to bring in Ruben Amorim. Although Ruben Amorim was also quite impressive in the Champions League with Sporting, but I still can't be sure whether Ruben Amorim will succeed at Manchester United or may experience a failure. No one knows about the result.

I think Nistelrooy was warned in advance that he would be coach for literally a very short time. I think they wanted to fire Ten Hag a long time ago, but they did it only when they were sure that they would be able to get Amorim. According to the leaks, Amorim asked for the chance to finish the season at Sporting, but United management said it was now or never. Apparently they had completely run out of patience during the years when Ten Hag was coach Grin

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Quote from: adultcrypto on November 11, 2024, 08:51:16 AM

I don't think Arsenal's inability to defeat Chelsea have anything to do with the resignation of Edu Gasper, enough of the blame game. Arsenal played so well and if not that their first goal was disallowed as offside, they would have probably won the match. Although Chelsea had more shots on goal because Palmer was definitely on fire yesterday. I think what is happening with Arsenal is normal for them, they always have a period they start declining, just that it came so early this season unlike other seasons that they would have still been pushing to win the title by this time.

Arsenal draw the game with Chelsea and ended up 1-1 in the end. Still both these teams are at the top 3rd and 4th Spot. Liver Pool is leading at Premier League at the moment.
Gabriel Teodoro took the lead in the 60th minute of the game when he scored for Arsenal. They could not defend this goal in the last 30 minutes and in the 70th minute we had an equalizer by Pedro Lomba. Arsenal enjoyed the lead for 10 mins only before it was equal by Chelsea. They were not able to find any further goals and hence it ended in a draw. The possession in the game was also equal while i thought Arsenal had a better ball possession.

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Quote from: Docnaster on November 11, 2024, 11:32:02 AM

Quote from: hahay on November 11, 2024, 11:19:12 AM

Ruben Amorim has arrived at Manchester United, and his first match after the international break later will be playing away against Ipswich. Obviously, it will be an easy match for Ruben Amorim who should be able to ensure a win for Manchester United. But to be honest, it's a shame that Ruud van Nistelrooy was only an interim coach, even though Ruud van Nistelrooy kept Manchester United without a defeat but that still led Manchester United to bring in Ruben Amorim. Although Ruben Amorim was also quite impressive in the Champions League with Sporting, but I still can't be sure whether Ruben Amorim will succeed at Manchester United or may experience a failure. No one knows about the result.

Ruben Amorim was reported to have arrived Manchester United this morning to officially take over as the club's manager and even granted interview to the press this morning. Like you rightly said, they'll be playing at Ipswich Town after the international break but i don't think it'll be an easy game just like you suggested and that's because Ipswich got their first win of the season over the weekend and will definitely want to improve from there.

Amorim arrival at Manchester United certainly marks the end of Nistelrooy job as their current interim coach, previously Amorim had difficulty getting a work permit in England but fortunately it has been completed and I think the fans will welcome him warmly at this time,because great expectations they have for Amorim now, I think against Ipswich will be his first test as Manchester coach but we have to admit if Ipswich is not a strong team that has the potential to beat them at the moment, especially since Nistelrooy took over team from ten hag, their performance has improved a lot and will most likely be able to destroy Ipswich Town in the match.

Welcome Amorim in the most competitive league in Europe, I hope you feel at home with the existing competition..!

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Quote from: adultcrypto on November 11, 2024, 08:51:16 AM

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A sad week for Arteta, his team is facing new changes and they've not been in a complete form. The resignation of Edu Gasper, Arsenal's sporting director, earlier last week may have been a loop hole to the gunners. Although Chelsea did their best, but Arsenal is losing good performance.

I don't think Arsenal's inability to defeat Chelsea have anything to do with the resignation of Edu Gasper, enough of the blame game.

No doubts, but when I saw the news I was able to predict Arsenal to lose or draw their next game. He worked closely with Arteta - they're good friends. Then, he wakes up to a news that his sporting director is no longer in Arsenal.

Who would do the internal tasks Edu does for the gunners, against Chelsea? Unless, you think these managers have no emotions, a lot of factors affect their performances in the field.

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Quote from: Egii Nna on November 11, 2024, 11:11:31 AM

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Manchester United's performance is getting better than we expected, and they will need to appreciate Ruud. Because he has tried his possible best for the team to see victory in their game, just take a look at their amazing performance since when he came to the team they are playing with surprises, which make many start wondering that most of their players can even play like this but they failed to do that. Understand the coach of Erick; indeed, if it is possible to maintain Ruud as their main coach, then the management needs to try their best to see that happen. At least they will bring back their reputation this season. Kudos to Ruud Van Nistelrooy.

Their progress has occurred in the last four matches. But don't forget that Ruud will get negative words with different words from each person when Manchester United's performance is not worse than Erik ten Hag. If in the four matches Manchester United is like what has happened, then praise will come from many sectors to him.

It's nice that they performed great because it can make the Premier League competition even more crowded. But Ruud's job will be over and they will hope for Amorim. Amorim's situation and fate will be the same as I said (if Manchester United performs well, praise will come and if Manchester United performs like other mediocre clubs, negative words about them will come).

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Quote from: hahay on November 11, 2024, 11:19:12 AM

Ruben Amorim has arrived at Manchester United, and his first match after the international break later will be playing away against Ipswich. Obviously, it will be an easy match for Ruben Amorim who should be able to ensure a win for Manchester United. But to be honest, it's a shame that Ruud van Nistelrooy was only an interim coach, even though Ruud van Nistelrooy kept Manchester United without a defeat but that still led Manchester United to bring in Ruben Amorim. Although Ruben Amorim was also quite impressive in the Champions League with Sporting, but I still can't be sure whether Ruben Amorim will succeed at Manchester United or may experience a failure. No one knows about the result.

Ruben Amorim was reported to have arrived Manchester United this morning to officially take over as the club's manager and even granted interview to the press this morning. Like you rightly said, they'll be playing at Ipswich Town after the international break but i don't think it'll be an easy game just like you suggested and that's because Ipswich got their first win of the season over the weekend and will definitely want to improve from there.

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Ruben Amorim has arrived at Manchester United, and his first match after the international break later will be playing away against Ipswich. Obviously, it will be an easy match for Ruben Amorim who should be able to ensure a win for Manchester United. But to be honest, it's a shame that Ruud van Nistelrooy was only an interim coach, even though Ruud van Nistelrooy kept Manchester United without a defeat but that still led Manchester United to bring in Ruben Amorim. Although Ruben Amorim was also quite impressive in the Champions League with Sporting, but I still can't be sure whether Ruben Amorim will succeed at Manchester United or may experience a failure. No one knows about the result.

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Manchester United has shown a very good performance in yesterday match in which their players scored 3 goals and did not allow the opponent team to score a single goal and win the match.Manchester United are dead ahead as they have played a match before which they won. If prepare for such performance in the next matches too you will definitely win the match. They must not weaken it now or the matches they have won will be lost. Manchester United have decided to make themselves capable of what has won them and will continue to win them. But it has not become so strong that it will win every match in which there will be defeat in some matches. That will prove them weak for some time.Manchester United next match is against Ipswich let's see if they can win this match too.

Their fans started carrying signs that said thank you Ruud, please stay. This shows that Ruud van Nistelrooy has started to become Manchester United's savior for four matches without defeat. In my opinion, a transitional coach will not always be in the position and circumstances as he is now.
Indeed, Nistelrooy is making a good achievement. In four matches, Manchester United managed to win three and draw one with a total of 11 goals scored.

Manchester United's performance is getting better than we expected, and they will need to appreciate Ruud. Because he has tried his possible best for the team to see victory in their game, just take a look at their amazing performance since when he came to the team they are playing with surprises, which make many start wondering that most of their players can even play like this but they failed to do that. Understand the coach of Erick; indeed, if it is possible to maintain Ruud as their main coach, then the management needs to try their best to see that happen. At least they will bring back their reputation this season. Kudos to Ruud Van Nistelrooy.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on November 10, 2024, 05:33:40 PM

This image literally reminds the frustration of Pep Guradiola in one of his games and today we saw that same reaction from Mikel Arteta. I want to say that both teams played so well in the game. The game was not one sided, the press came from Chelsea and Arsenal and i rarely could predict who will win the game even while watching it. Although my guess was right in the end. A very fair result for the two derby teams sharing the points. But more advantage to Chelsea as they will be in the third position above Arsenal in 4th because of goal difference.

Indeed, in this case it cannot be denied that the two clubs played very well for the size of a big match, it's just that in this match for Arsenal actually I see that they still have quite the same problems as before.
When facing big matches Arsenal actually always have a chance to win and things like this always happen even in some big matches this season like when facing Liverpool, Manchester City and Chelsea yesterday it's just that situations like that can't be maximized because of Arteta's inappropriate selection of schemes.

We can see when Arsenal are ahead in terms of goals as much as possible they will do a defensive scheme and even lead to bus parking but it is precisely moments like this that make them always lose momentum and cannot keep the score well. I think in this case Arteta should be able to judge more even though they are still very eager to secure points at least 1 point but when the defensive scheme is carried out in the end the match becomes uncontrollable for Arsenal and inevitably they have to get 1 point even though there is momentum to get 3 points when they are ahead in terms of goals.

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Quote from: ITExpert on November 11, 2024, 09:26:44 AM

Manchester United has shown a very good performance in yesterday match in which their players scored 3 goals and did not allow the opponent team to score a single goal and win the match.Manchester United are dead ahead as they have played a match before which they won. If prepare for such performance in the next matches too you will definitely win the match. They must not weaken it now or the matches they have won will be lost. Manchester United have decided to make themselves capable of what has won them and will continue to win them. But it has not become so strong that it will win every match in which there will be defeat in some matches. That will prove them weak for some time.Manchester United next match is against Ipswich let's see if they can win this match too.

Their fans started carrying signs that said thank you Ruud, please stay. This shows that Ruud van Nistelrooy has started to become Manchester United's savior for four matches without defeat. In my opinion, a transitional coach will not always be in the position and circumstances as he is now.
Indeed, Nistelrooy is making a good achievement. In four matches, Manchester United managed to win three and draw one with a total of 11 goals scored.

Don't forget how Liverpool performed extraordinarily under Arne Slot since Klopp left Anfield. But we didn't expect more from Slot in his first season.

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Quote from: blue Snow on November 10, 2024, 07:07:19 PM

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Manchester United started to recover after Erik Ten Hag left the team.Manchester United hosted Leicester City at home and defeated their opponent 3-0 and managed to get 3 points.They didn't play very well but I think they are slowly showing signs of recovery.They will want to finish the league at least in the top 5.

I think MU played well last night, Their movement looked freely to find a defender gap, especially Amad Diallo who has several times threatened on the penalty box. he seems to have found how to improve his performance. Because in the last 2 matches, he shows if he's a player who deserves to be a starter. he was also good at assisting ball to Bruno when he faced a Leicester defender last night, His assist with his back foot was very deceptive and pretty classy. But, because he is still young, so he is quite selfish to give an assist to Rushford when he is not guarding Leicester City in the last minute 1st half.

But, all performances MU last night, showed us if they are coming back on the track.

Manchester United has shown a very good performance in yesterday match in which their players scored 3 goals and did not allow the opponent team to score a single goal and win the match.Manchester United are dead ahead as they have played a match before which they won. If prepare for such performance in the next matches too you will definitely win the match. They must not weaken it now or the matches they have won will be lost. Manchester United have decided to make themselves capable of what has won them and will continue to win them. But it has not become so strong that it will win every match in which there will be defeat in some matches. That will prove them weak for some time.Manchester United next match is against Ipswich let's see if they can win this match too.

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Quote from: Accardo on November 10, 2024, 06:25:25 PM

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The image of coach Mikel Arteta regretfully and clearly shows his disappointment by lying down on the sidelines. The cause came from the final play of the match when three Arsenal players pressed but Leandro Trossard missed the shot when Kai Havertz was in a better position.

True to the nature of a London derby, both Chelsea and Arsenal played aggressively right from the opening whistle. Continuous finishing situations were created at both goals of goalkeeper David Raya and Robert Sánchez but were not converted into goals. Arsenal controlled the ball better, created many dangerous chances, and appeared to dominate the game. However, the away team missed many opportunities in important situations. Chelsea were probably the team that was happy with the result. Chelsea 1-1 Arsenal: Liverpool were the beneficiaries of this match.

A sad week for Arteta, his team is facing new changes and they've not been in a complete form. The resignation of Edu Gasper, Arsenal's sporting director, earlier last week may have been a loop hole to the gunners. Although Chelsea did their best, but Arsenal is losing good performance.

I don't think Arsenal's inability to defeat Chelsea have anything to do with the resignation of Edu Gasper, enough of the blame game. Arsenal played so well and if not that their first goal was disallowed as offside, they would have probably won the match. Although Chelsea had more shots on goal because Palmer was definitely on fire yesterday. I think what is happening with Arsenal is normal for them, they always have a period they start declining, just that it came so early this season unlike other seasons that they would have still been pushing to win the title by this time.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on November 10, 2024, 04:07:33 PM

By the way, it is interesting to see the total points on EPL standings. Specifically the total points of the teams in 3rd place to 9th place. Their total points are 19-18 points which enables for the change in their positions at any time. This also indicates that EPL is very competitive, the EPL teams have quite equal strength.

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What is certain is that this season every team is developing rapidly, not only giant teams like Chelsea who have risen from the slump but Nottingham Forest, Brighton, and Aston Villa have shown that they can also challenge giant teams. Man City existence is in a threatened situation if they continue to lose points. As for Liverpool the 2024/2025 season is theirs in the Premier League.

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Quote from: blue Snow on November 10, 2024, 07:07:19 PM

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Manchester United started to recover after Erik Ten Hag left the team.Manchester United hosted Leicester City at home and defeated their opponent 3-0 and managed to get 3 points.They didn't play very well but I think they are slowly showing signs of recovery.They will want to finish the league at least in the top 5.

I think MU played well last night, Their movement looked freely to find a defender gap, especially Amad Diallo who has several times threatened on the penalty box. he seems to have found how to improve his performance. Because in the last 2 matches, he shows if he's a player who deserves to be a starter. he was also good at assisting ball to Bruno when he faced a Leicester defender last night, His assist with his back foot was very deceptive and pretty classy. But, because he is still young, so he is quite selfish to give an assist to Rushford when he is not guarding Leicester City in the last minute 1st half.

But, all performances MU last night, showed us if they are coming back on the track.

I did not have the opportunity of watching the last night game, but from the highlights I later watched, and all I've read online about the match. It's no-brainer that Manchester united is coming back on track again, the new coach is doing an incredible job in seeing that the players are all and always at their best when on the pitch, it's commendable though.

But like I was saying on the other thread, it's too early to jump into any conclusions, lets what them play a few more games and see if they will still maintain a good performance, specially with the tougher clubs like Liverpool who are currently leading the premier league table, Manchester city, Arsenal and the likes, Manchester united beating all of this clubs or perhaps, holding them to a draw indeed will show that they are back on track again.

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