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Quote from: $weetne$$ on October 05, 2024, 04:57:47 PM

Great response from arsenal, they showed that they're ready to win the title this season. Not evey club can be 1 goal down and comeback to win 3:1 also Arsenal respond was very fast then expected. Kai Havertz got the first goal and this motivated the Arsenal players and they were capable of scoring more two gaols to win the game 3:1. After the first goal by Southampton it seems like they went back to relax because Arsenal took over the game from that point and it was all Arsenal being a threat and it eventually got them to win. Arsenal deserved to win the game because they have being playing so well but have just being unlucky although today they were lucky regardless of going one goal down to get the win and now they're third with just one point behind Liverpool that are table toppers.

Well, Arsenal did not do anything extraordinary aside winning the game. Being a goal down and coming back to win the game is not longer a magic as teams often do it including Chelsea and Manchester united that we normally refer to as weak team. I really didn't expect anything from southampton against Arsenal. Considering southampton recent performance, I won't be impressed even if Arsenal was two goals down and did a come back.

Southampton is currently on the verge of relegation and they are working hard to achieve it. Although, I still commend their performance for playing a bit better at second half but the fact remains that Arsenal is not on their level and that is one reason I will not praise their coming back. And yes, Arsenal seem to be consistent this season at least for now.

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The late kickoff match yesterday between Everton vs Newcastle united was quite though for both teams and the game ended with goaless draw full time although Newcastle united almost take the lead in the first half but Jordan Pickford was able to save the penalty from Anthony Gordon in the 35th minutes which gave them the confident to share the points equally against Newcastle united. However I think Everton did very well in the game yesterday because looking at Newcastle united recent performance this season I couldn't believe that Everton would hold them 0-0 till final whistle.

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Quote from: Woodie on October 05, 2024, 08:01:56 AM

Liverpool game doesn't look as lively as I thought it would be and unfortunately it seems both teams are playing a reserved game even with a lone goal from Jota already on the board...
Perhaps Crystal Palace getting a goal back could spark things up, but from how the game is unfolding, clearly this could end in a 1-0 or 2-0 and not what I was looking for..lets see what other games bring after this one.

Salah subbed out , in comes Luiz Diaz.. clearly no goals coming Cry

Liverpool won it 1-0. We're winning without playing well. A classic pattern by us in away games. We dominate entirely, then slowly fall off until we are hanging on by a thread. But I'm not surprised. Selhurst Park is a horrible ground for us to go to. It's never an easy game there, and I'm glad to come away with three points and a clean sheet from there.

Our players, Jaros and Ali, did it well; they helped us avoid losing some golden chances to our opponents. Endo came on 10 minutes before the game ended, but he was effective.

Yet I'm still disappointed with the chances we created. We could score more in this game. It seems a recurring issue now. However, tributes for Jota with his clinical performance and the only goal.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on October 05, 2024, 04:45:22 PM

No surprises today, all the top 3 teams have won their matches, but actually none of them was an easy game. Even in the Arsenal Vs Southampton, the away team took the lead in the 55th minute, but the Gunners managed to press harder and score 3 after that.

Arsenal changed the strategy on 2nd half after being stuck in the previous half. I am not surprised if they conceded first because they need adaptation and implementation for all players. Southampton provides to counter all aggression arsenal from each line so they bit overwhelming after Harvetz equalizes the score. So I think Arsenal more understands to overcome Southampton last night because when I compared with Manchester city where they are very overwhelmed to carry out Crystal Palace, Arsenal could easily overcome Southampton's midfield so that they could create 2 different goals.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on October 05, 2024, 06:31:59 PM

Well, I will never forget he won Manchester United two trophies while playing three finals as Manchester United manager. I want to see if they can win against Aston Villa. Manchester United fans are just without patience period!!

What's your bottom line before you sack him? Finishing outside the top 4? I heard rumors that United's board will decide ETH's future next Tuesday, so his time is running out. I don't think they have the patience to wait until the end of the season. I agree that most fans have no patience. Still, there should be better arguments to support a manager other than the fact that another manager has a similar bad season because the context is always different. I mean, I see someone suggest United should stick with ETH for at least 7 years because Ferguson won his first trophy after 7 seasons at United. I don't think that's a reasonable argument at all.

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Quote from: Huppercase on October 05, 2024, 02:35:11 PM

Manchester United might pull some triggers we may not see coming because if they lose this match, the little credibility they are managing with fans is going to be over and more probability of Erik Ten Hag going to leave the club, forget the scope of early and believing in players. There is nothing to believe in him again, all those statements are crap and cheap talks.

Go back and see what happened during the third season of Mikel Arteta. Arsenal fans even wanted Mikel Arteta out, I will never forget how they lost the opening game of the season against Brentford. Asides that they went ahead and lost more games but the management backed the manager Mikel Arteta even though they weren't getting the results they wanted. Well, I will never forget he won Manchester United two trophies while playing three finals as Manchester United manager. I want to see if they can win against Aston Villa. Manchester United fans are just without patience period!!

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on October 05, 2024, 03:02:15 PM

Quote from: hahay on October 05, 2024, 02:51:34 PM

Quote from: Plaguedeath on October 05, 2024, 11:09:58 AM

Frequent reshuffling of starters for any team strongly affects the selection of fantasy squad. Imagine a friend tried Jota for sometime and discovered that Nunez was trying to get more playing time than Jota. He sold Jota and but Diaz, and now Diaz is coming from Bench with Nunez while Jota is starting. I believe next week he will shuffle again.
Meanwhile, it seems that the top teams managed to win and it doesn't really matter the winning margin as per day. I am looking upto tomorrow to see how it will go down.

The current squad rotation mechanism Liverpool manager Arne Slot is using is making it very difficult for Premier League Fantasy managers to rightly predict players that'll start their league games. Not only is he rotating the attacking line but he's also rotating the defense line just like he decided to start Tsimikas ahead of the club's regular left back Andy Robertson. The decision to leave Luiz Diaz out of his starting XI was very surprising but since he's the manager, there's nothing that can be done about it as he was able to grab all three points at the end of the day. The result of today's English Premier League games wasn't that entertaining if you ask me but I believe tomorrow's games will give more entertaining results

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Quote from: hahay on October 05, 2024, 02:51:34 PM

Arsenal is also the fact that it is not easy to win at home, despite only playing against Southampton, which is basically at the bottom of the table and also has no wins so far. But, Southampton managed to score first and that triggered Arsenal to be able to play even better. The result was good of course, as Arsenal managed to score three goals and Saka was very impressive with two assists and also scored one goal in this 3-1 win.

Great response from arsenal, they showed that they're ready to win the title this season. Not evey club can be 1 goal down and comeback to win 3:1 also Arsenal respond was very fast then expected. Kai Havertz got the first goal and this motivated the Arsenal players and they were capable of scoring more two gaols to win the game 3:1. After the first goal by Southampton it seems like they went back to relax because Arsenal took over the game from that point and it was all Arsenal being a threat and it eventually got them to win. Arsenal deserved to win the game because they have being playing so well but have just being unlucky although today they were lucky regardless of going one goal down to get the win and now they're third with just one point behind Liverpool that are table toppers.

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No surprises today, all the top 3 teams have won their matches, but actually none of them was an easy game. Even in the Arsenal Vs Southampton, the away team took the lead in the 55th minute, but the Gunners managed to press harder and score 3 after that.

Big game for Ten Hag tomorrow. There are rumours that if Man Utd performs badly against Aston Villa, he will be on the way out.
Aston Villa is a x2.22 favourite and the odds for Man United's win are x3.00. Betting on AV could be a good idea, I don't think there's a big chance for any sudden awakening of Ten Hag's team.
United is doing even worse than in the last season in terms of average goals scored per game, with only 0.83 goals per game. There's an improvement in the average number of goals lost per game.
So there's a big chance we won't be seeing many goals tomorrow, and bookies agree, with odds for total goals under 3.5 being x1.61, which is still not that bad.

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Quote from: hahay on October 05, 2024, 02:51:34 PM

Quote from: Plaguedeath on October 05, 2024, 11:09:58 AM

So far, nothing surprising with the results. Cheesy

Liverpool, Arsenal, and Manchester City managed to win even though they won not with big points.

Arne Slot already tired with Nunez, even he was become a starter and played for full time, his performance didn't change at all. It's a wise move to replace him with Jota, even he's not a star player, but his performance better than Nunez.

Frequent reshuffling of starters for any team strongly affects the selection of fantasy squad. Imagine a friend tried Jota for sometime and discovered that Nunez was trying to get more playing time than Jota. He sold Jota and but Diaz, and now Diaz is coming from Bench with Nunez while Jota is starting. I believe next week he will shuffle again.
Meanwhile, it seems that the top teams managed to win and it doesn't really matter the winning margin as per day. I am looking upto tomorrow to see how it will go down.

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Quote from: hahay on October 05, 2024, 02:51:34 PM

Quote from: Plaguedeath on October 05, 2024, 11:09:58 AM

Although Arsenal and Manchester City also got three points, I still lost the Manchester City match. I thought Fulham wouldn't be able to score two goals in an away match against Manchester City, but in fact Fulham managed to score first and score another goal in the second half to minimize the defeat. I really didn't expect it because it didn't seem easy for Manchester City to win this match, because Fulham also managed to play well, making Manchester City make greater efforts to ensure getting three points in this home match.

You should choose Manchester City to win like you would choose Liverpool, but you have different interests. I don't know what odds you get if you pick Manchester City to win, even if it's 1.25, I think it's still profitable. But in any case, Fulham have clearly spoiled your victory.

Throughout the match Manchester City lacked creativity and also failed in finishing. Haaland didn't have many goal chances in this match and he went through this match without a goal, but if Haaland gets more chances, then maybe you can win the bet even if Fulham scores 2 goals. But in the end, the standings have not changed for this week, especially regarding Liverpool, Manchester City and Arsenal.

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Quote from: Woodie on October 05, 2024, 08:01:56 AM

Liverpool game doesn't look as lively as I thought it would be and unfortunately it seems both teams are playing a reserved game even with a lone goal from Jota already on the board...
Perhaps Crystal Palace getting a goal back could spark things up, but from how the game is unfolding, clearly this could end in a 1-0 or 2-0 and not what I was looking for..lets see what other games bring after this one.

We face Crystal Palace, we can't expect the excitement like when we face other teams because Crystal Palace has always made it difficult for us to party with a big goal margin.
Winning by 1 goal is in accordance with my expectations, even I thought that Liverpool could add another goal but they didn't.

The next game is against Chelsea. The match against Chelsea will also be interesting which can make the whole Anfield surrounded by curiosity because Chelsea this season has changed a lot, unlike last season.

Quote from: Woodie on October 05, 2024, 08:01:56 AM

Salah subbed out , in comes Luiz Diaz.. clearly no goals coming Cry

We hope Mo Salah can be a goal scorer. As we can see, Mo Salah's movements were well anticipated by Crystal Palace players.

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Quote from: Plaguedeath on October 05, 2024, 11:09:58 AM

So far, nothing surprising with the results. Cheesy

Liverpool, Arsenal, and Manchester City managed to win even though they won not with big points.

Arne Slot already tired with Nunez, even he was become a starter and played for full time, his performance didn't change at all. It's a wise move to replace him with Jota, even he's not a star player, but his performance better than Nunez.

Although Arsenal and Manchester City also got three points, I still lost the Manchester City match. I thought Fulham wouldn't be able to score two goals in an away match against Manchester City, but in fact Fulham managed to score first and score another goal in the second half to minimize the defeat. I really didn't expect it because it didn't seem easy for Manchester City to win this match, because Fulham also managed to play well, making Manchester City make greater efforts to ensure getting three points in this home match.

Arsenal is also the fact that it is not easy to win at home, despite only playing against Southampton, which is basically at the bottom of the table and also has no wins so far. But, Southampton managed to score first and that triggered Arsenal to be able to play even better. The result was good of course, as Arsenal managed to score three goals and Saka was very impressive with two assists and also scored one goal in this 3-1 win.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on October 05, 2024, 12:43:27 PM

I don't know, but I think Aston Villa are already believing it, by beating a Bayern Munich team that is on a very good run in Germany they have high morale, I don't know how a MU's performance can be at the moment, it's something that I find very difficult to predict, normally when MU faces very big teams they end up tied, because that's all I've seen in the last few games, they always start with the same strategy and don't go beyond it , I think that all teams find it very easy to read MU's intentions, that's why things don't go their way

I want to believe the same thing but I think we need to use the way they use to win Bayern Munich into consideration. That goal wasn't expected, look at the long pass Toress gave Duran, it was a long one and as soon as Duran got the ball, he tapped it and over the goal keepers head and immediately they went rogue on defending game which was difficult for Bayern to penetrate. They can't beat Bayern on normal ground but football happens anyway.

Manchester United might pull some triggers we may not see coming because if they lose this match, the little credibility they are managing with fans is going to be over and more probability of Erik Ten Hag going to leave the club, forget the scope of early and believing in players. There is nothing to believe in him again, all those statements are crap and cheap talks.

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Quote from: Woodie on October 05, 2024, 08:01:56 AM

Liverpool game doesn't look as lively as I thought it would be and unfortunately it seems both teams are playing a reserved game even with a lone goal from Jota already on the board...
Perhaps Crystal Palace getting a goal back could spark things up, but from how the game is unfolding, clearly this could end in a 1-0 or 2-0 and not what I was looking for..lets see what other games bring after this one.

Salah subbed out , in comes Luiz Diaz.. clearly no goals coming Cry

Oops, well predicted that no more goals will come after Luiz Diaz was brought in to replace Mo Salah. The game ended 1-0 and that was something no one was expecting because of Liverpools quality and how good their performance is currently. Crystal Palace shouldn’t be a team to trouble them in this match but they did and they narrowly won the game by one goal. Crystal Palace have always been a big hinderance for big teams to win three points, so I’m not too surprised that Liverpool won with just one goal.

Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on October 05, 2024, 12:51:33 PM

Otherwise we could have been talking about a whole different game.

Rodri really makes big difference. It doesn't look like Manchester City will get used to staying strong without him shortly.

If they had a way, they will bring Rodri in for their next match and rush his treatment and recovery process but it will cause them more harm. Manchester City won the match but it wasn’t an easy one for them though. You’ll definitely see the changes in the game as Rodri was not in today to cover the midfield for them. Good game and three points well earned by them. They still maintain their position in the table and continue the fight for the title fight.

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Quote from: Raflesia on October 05, 2024, 09:49:54 AM

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There is nothing to doubt about who has the best performance between them. Aston Villa is definitely better and is on fire to kick out Ten Hag immediately tomorrow. I don't know what the team can do to keep their coach to stay at MU, because they are stuck and nothing can do to save him. Even if MU wins with an impossible strategy also, Ten hag position is still vulnerable to get the sack. So, I think MU must play naturally tomorrow, don't be burdened with pressure from anybody, so if they play freely and win, they are not stiff anymore for the next match, and Ten Hag position maybe will considered again to manage team.

As I said, a busy schedule can be a difficult condition to predict. We can see that their break before returning to play is only 2 days, which means there will definitely be some rotations that will definitely occur in this match.

Although it cannot be denied that in terms of teamwork now indeed Aston Villa looks much better prepared but on the other hand in 90 minutes of the match we cannot predict for sure especially when there are some things that might not be wanted just like the red card that occurred for Bruno in the previous match so in this case all possibilities can still occur.

As a comparison in today's match alone we can see that Manchester City are still troubled and Liverpool only managed to win with a thin score because they forced to export players and partly rotated.

I believe when teams play too many games, eventually they get very tired and this causes them to get unpredicted results. This isn't new, there are many teams who go further in UCL for many years, some teams are always good and those teams always have uncommon unexpected losses in their leagues every season, just one or two, but it happens and because of this we should not be really that much shocked about it.

We need to focus on what we can do and how we can do it, but that doesn't mean we are going to see this getting any different and we are going to lose our bets out of nowhere sometimes but we need to agree to this.

The rest of the time the yare good and we just bet on them to win. City for example is a team that keeps on winning, they had 5 of last 6 titles and 4 in a row and they went 30+ winning streaks too, but in the end what happened we ended up with some unexpected results here and there with them too. Like how Real ended up losing to Lille for example just the other day.

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Quote from: Woodie on October 05, 2024, 08:01:56 AM

Liverpool game doesn't look as lively as I thought it would be and unfortunately it seems both teams are playing a reserved game even with a lone goal from Jota already on the board...

Liverpool are able to maintain the first position for another week, all the top clubs that played today, and were able to get a win in their match. Liverpool were able to get three points in the match, which is what everyone is after, but the match wasn’t really interesting the way it was expecting it to be. I expected Liverpool to score more goals in the match, but they were able to score just one goal, which they did in the first half of the match. Liverpool dominated the match, but they wasted the chances they had and were able to score just a goal in the match.

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Manchester City won today maybe but just don't be deceived with the score. There is no such score to be in such condition though. Tongue

They didn't have an easy game at all. Fulham were very comfortable with their attacks. They even had a chance to make it 2-0 right after getting ahead. If I'm not mistaken it must be Adama Traore wasting a huge chance there.

Otherwise we could have been talking about a whole different game.

Rodri really makes big difference. It doesn't look like Manchester City will get used to staying strong without him shortly.

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Quote from: asriloni on October 03, 2024, 07:06:44 PM

Aston Villa is in a very good mood after they beat Bayern in the Champions League. And Manchester United, who often got bad results in the European League. Maybe struggle to beat them in an away game.

I don't know, but I think Aston Villa are already believing it, by beating a Bayern Munich team that is on a very good run in Germany they have high morale, I don't know how a MU's performance can be at the moment, it's something that I find very difficult to predict, normally when MU faces very big teams they end up tied, because that's all I've seen in the last few games, they always start with the same strategy and don't go beyond it , I think that all teams find it very easy to read MU's intentions, that's why things don't go their way

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Getting a win, a boring one but a win is always the most important part. At the end of the season, nobody will remember it was just a one goal win, they will remember how many points you had and even not that they will remember your position if you are the winner and rarely the others.

So, the best thing to do is just keep winning, no matter how. The goal came in very early within first ten minutes and rest of the time both teams just tried to defend well enough, and tried to counter attack and neither managed to score again, so it was a full on game of boring period. Considering the added times we saw nearly 90 minutes of no goals and not even any proper decent positions that many times, so it was definitely boring after the goal.

This doesn't matter for Liverpool, they should still be happy with three points and we could definitely see this growing to be a higher level if they keep this up, they are leading and if they play this good then they may get the title.

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