Topic: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ - page 12. (Read 75400 times)

Indirectly in the end we all agree that Amorim's performance this season in the end may still be able to change when he gets the players who fit the criteria or with the future plans he wants at Mancehster United which until now he has not gotten because overall the current players are only inherited from the previous era.

But it seems that things like this will also be more difficult than imagined. Amorim's situation is currently in an uncomfortable state where Manchester United have lost their appetite for financial spending or rather a bit of difficulty because earlier in the season they had already spent quite a lot of money on several players which makes Amorim's scheme likely to be stuck in the end.
This will certainly have more of an impact in the end although there might be one or two players in this transfer but I don't think it will be enough to change the performance although there might be a difference in terms of consistency.

Odds and fixtures for this weekend's round (match day 23):



The most interesting one is obviously Man City Vs Chelsea. If the City wins tomorrow, they will jump back to the top 4 (Champions League zone) at the expense of Chelsea.
Chelsea is not doing great recently, they might have won their last league game but it was a home game against weak Wolves, so not much glory in that.
Man City gave a great show, beating Ipswich 6-0 in an away game, but got their asses whooped in the Champions League by PSG (4-2) so the team's morale may not be that high.
My prediction: 2-2 draw.

Liverpool and Arne Slot needs to be very careful and focused, I have seen some scenario where a club was very much outstanding in all the tournament in that season but in the end the lost out in all. Even if we all praise Liverpool for their outstanding performance this season even under a new coach who was not a regular in the English Premier League, we should also advise them to be focused especially in one or two titles. With this new format of the Champions League, I did not know much about how to predict it because someone at the top of the table today could definitely not qualify in the next round.

As for the English Premier League We know, Liverpool should be very much serious with it because they have an advantage over other teams. The flop of Manchester City in the middle of the season is a big plus to Liverpool and the inconsistency of Arsenal added to the advantage. So it will be great to see that they maintain the top of the league till the end of the season

The fact that Liverpool won the league is obvious to the naked eye, bookmakers estimate their chances as 1.25 = 80% probability. The biggest surprise of the season is that, against the backdrop of City's failure, Arsenal could do nothing, while Liverpool, which everyone thought would suffer after Klopp's departure, soared to first place. Nottingham Forest's progress is also impressive, but all eyes are on the 'regular' pool of clubs.

Who would have thought that Liverpool this season could be like this because Arne Slot came from a team that was considered to have minimal trophies with the club he coached. We even believe in Slot even though we don't fully expect Arne Slot to be able to immediately step on the gas to bring Liverpool like Klopp's glory. This is called a surprise.

It doesn't matter with the number of remaining matches this season, my friend. Liverpool are ready for another surprise even if they have to leave the comfort of being at the top of the standings.
The Premier League is different in competitiveness from other big leagues in Europe.
The consistent form that Liverpool will continue to do is that every match is important.

Liverpool has enough hope already, considering Manchester City is having a very hard time that they might not be able to do anything again this season. because almost all the teams that are below Liverpool in the table, Liverpool will or has already given them a 10-point interval. Because even Arsenal, which is the immediate team after Liverpool, drew their last game against Aston Villa, Liverpool still has a game to play tomorrow against Ipswich Town, and we all know that the game will be a win for Liverpool, which they will be able to gain more 3 points, making them to have 53 points, which is an interval of 9 points to Arsenal.

So the best team to make it as the champions of the title this season is no team but Liverpool, and their consistency is what brought them to this stage because they only lost one game since the start of this season.

Yes Liverpool are currently leading the league comfortably and that is what makes them the favourites to be championship this season, the mentality and the great consistency in getting the 3 points has been their shown this season like against Brentford where they refused to lose or draw before the end match whistle sounded, I think in addition to the mentality and also the consistency,  they are actually currently very lucky, because Manchester City which in recent seasons has dominated the league is experiencing a slump, so they are quite comfortable so far without any strong pressure from other teams that have a winning mentality .
But regardless, they currently still have 17 games left, meaning all possibilities can still happen in the Premier League, so let's see how consistent they are until the end of the season later.

Nottingham is the only team so far this season that has not lost against Liverpool, although basically this season Liverpool has really had a very impressive performance. Thus, it would be very appropriate for Nottingham to finish in the top four and get a Champions League ticket for next season. Indeed, next season Nottingham may not be as good as now, but at least Nottingham, which is basically not a top European team but with impressive results so far, of course Nottingham is very worthy of getting an award. About Arsenal, they may also still find it difficult to maintain good performance in the Premier League and in the Champions League, so Arsenal still remains unsuccessful in the race for the Premier League trophy in the last few seasons.

Yes, you are right. True fans stick with their team through thick and thin.  And in as much as it is the duty of the coach to bring all his players together, I wouldn't totally blame Amorim for the way things are at Manchester United, the players too are to be blamed. The players ought to have a winning mentality and the zeal to win before any coach can implement his philosophy at the club and be successful. The situation of CR7 left a sour taste to many. I think CR7 could have been an valuable addition to the club if things were handled differently.

Liverpool look like they will put an embargo on all the tournaments they compete in this season. There is still no team being able to compete with them seriously in the Premier League. Arsenal lose unnecessary amount of points. When it comes to Nottingham Forest this is the first season in which they do big things for a long time. I can't be sure of them about maintaining their title race as well. They didn't play great against Liverpool in that match you mentioned too.

In a season that Manchester City are having hard time challenging for the trophy, Liverpool can benefit from the situation with this great performance under Arne Slot's control.

There are many problems that Amorin must overcome at Man United at this time and what needs to be emphasized is that his players must develop in every match and must not be reckless because Man United often concedes goals especially in the early minutes of the match, of course Amorin is frustrated and I think all coaches are frustrated if they work at Man United, and at this time Sir Jim wants to sell Garnacho instead of getting money but that is something wrong if that happens indeed at this time Man United really needs money but selling Garnacho is not the right choice and Man United's mistake was selling shares to Sir Jim not to the oil king, now a new problem has arisen with increasing ticket sales at Old Trafford and this has begun to be protested by Man United fans who basically find it very difficult to be at Man United at this time.

Amorin is required to restore Man United to its former glory and I believe in Amorin, his project is quite good and the game he plays is clear, but right now all that is needed is a player who fits his game to play under him, right now Man United can only maintain 8/9 players, the rest of their game is very bad, especially the unpredictable players also create chaos in the team. I think Amorin's job is very hard, but I believe and support him.

Because there is a responsibility that he has so in the end there is clearly a sense of pressure that Amorim is experiencing but he should realize that something like this is most likely to happen for him at Manchester United. It doesn't mean he's bad and doesn't do anything it's just that the situation is not favorable for him where the club's condition is ruined and finances are running low but demanded more then it is clear this will definitely be a difficult thing for Amorim even I heard in some media rumors he was even angry in the dressing room after Manchester United lost earlier against Brighton which made it evident that he did not expect this situation to continue but he also could not say much about this because indeed the hope of changing quickly in terms of performance in the current conditions is clearly very difficult for him.

I think for now Amorim can only make some moves a little slower but as long as they are positive then it won't be a problem which is important this season they are not more devastated than the previous season.

Let's look at the current title competition, shall we? 



Liverpool have a really serious advantage. That's way clear. A missing game and a lead by 6 points... Arsenal are trying to catch up but that draw against Aston Villa was sad for them. You shouldn't lose a 2-0 score advantage easily if you are fighting for the title. 

And Nottingham Forest... They are very surprising, aren't they? The same points as Arsenal. An important steal of one point against Liverpool recently too. Most probably they wouldn't become the champions but even finishing in this area is way above their seasonal target for sure.

I don't care about bookmakers odds anymore because sometimes, they can be misleading. This was how the bookmakers made City the favorite in UCL against PSG, but it turned out the opposite. I know why the bookmakers are putting City as favorites because of past records but it's not all the time that past records will be used to predict future results.

City are not stable and I believe Chelsea will take that as an advantage to win them in Etihad Stadium. Currently, City is only strong when playing with very weak teams.

Believe me the best results that Manchester City will get in Etihad welcomes Chelsea. Winning will bring Manchester City to penetrate to fourth position from fifth position.
Behind my trust in the results of the posituf that will be obtained by Manchester City, the match will be exciting, betting to be paired on the victory of one of them is difficult to guess. The only thing that most likely happened was both teams could score goals.
Chelsea to Etihad Stadium is also not to lose because their potential to finish in second place is very dependent on them because Chelsea points are only 4 adrift.

Maybe It can be difficult for everyone to pick a team as a favorite in terms of points in this match. Manchester City won a 6-0 goals win in one of their matches. In this match, the significant performance of all the players in Manchester City forced many football fans to think, they have become a strong team again i.e they are able to perform as strong as befor. They lost against PSG and proved that they are suddenly capable of performing well. But not able to do it regularly.

Every team tries to give their hundred percent i.e. give their best performance to win the match. These two teams should focus more on their current performance than their past performance. The team that is currently very strong, i.e the team that is currently playing consistently offensively, will be able to win this match.

You consider Chelsea as the favorite. However, the performance of both these teams is very inconsistent. We are eagerly expecting a competitive match. However, I would not be surprised if both the teams play defensively. Since both the teams are a bit off form now, sharing the points could be a good result for both.

City did not play well against PSG in their last match. Despite leading 2-0 in the second half of the match, Manchester City lost the match 2-2. So it is easy to guess that City is in a very bad situation. On the other hand, Chelsea is not in a strong position either. Although they won against Wolves in the last match, the team has played badly in several previous matches. I am not interested in betting on this match. It is impossible to predict the result of this match with certainty.

I think the big problem facing Ruben Amorim at Manchester United is that the club fans wants to see him arrive the club and effect a big positive change upon his arrival. You can't expect a young manager like Amorim who was having an exceptional performance for his former club to come immediately improve the performance of a club that's been struggling for the last three years.
They should give him the time he needs to improve the performance of the team and allow him take his time and build the team by fully establishing his style of football at the club.

Oh I can't wait for the Manchester City - Chelsea game!    As a reminder I'm supporting Chelsea in the PL. So I really hope they get some points at Etihad...

Let's look at what condition these clubs are in now. They have very similar statistics in the league above all else. Chelsea are only 2 point ahead. If they didn't mess up hard lately then we could have talked differently now.

Chelsea are one of the best away clubs. Manchester City are trying to recover but lost really badly vs PSG a couple of days earlier. The first meet of Guardiola-Maresca ended up with a 2-0 victory for Manchester City. But I think this time could be different. I'm going for Chelsea or draw @1.70. 

In football winning games doesn't mater how often you have been winning or your position in the table or how inform you are now, you can as well be in a good form or a better position in the league table at the end you will still loss to a team that is struggling to escape relegation, we saw how Feyenoord humiliated Bayern Munich in their last UEFA Champions league game winning Bayern Munich 3-0 Feyenoord wasn't in a better form than Bayern Munich or has more better players than Bayern but they still won Bayern Munich, Manchester City will give their best to win Chelsea will also give their best to win because the winning is both important for both team.