Topic: Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s - page 127. (Read 96804 times)

I'm still waiting for this.

In addition, it seems as though the 72 hour period for old orders being transferred to the new minersource site has come and gone, and I still haven't received an email for my account on the new site.

Got this too.  Meh.  Was hoping for a lot more meat.

As expected they've settled on the option that costs them as little as possible.  Gee, they upped their originally ridiculously lousy offer to just a lousy offer.  Diverting some amount from their future cloud mining, while still selling cloud mining, ie, pumping nothing back whatsoever into this mess, but rather simply diverting some amount of earnings this year, and likely writing that off, thereby guarding every nickel made on this debacle to this point.  Nicely done, if you're on that side of the fence, but not so much if you're on the receiving end. 

What is that 500 Gh/month per X-3 going to earn in 6 months time, starting in May, relative to losing 2Th/s for 2 months, or whatever the delay actually ends up being, that should be starting in less than two weeks' time?  This is the only thing that actually matters.  I haven't done the math on the loss vs. this additional hashing and ultimate projected net, but I'm betting the answer is still not even close. 

10% discount on future orders?  We're being offered savings in the future on an order than will turn a profit for BA.  You've got to hand it to them for the sheer balls on this aspect.  More profit for them as recompense for costing you money.  This is a booby prize, at best. 

Who will make the same mistake twice, knowing full well that if BA screws up again, they'll lose money again, and be thrown a bone that doesn't come close to adding up to losses incurred, while other manufacturers are making up for those losses in ways that actually matter and make mathematical sense.  You'd have to be down to 2 working brain cells, neither of which was doing anything important, to place your money and trust in these people again.

I'm still waiting for your reply to my previous PM. Please also include this info in your reply.
Thanks

Where on earth are you getting that an Ant is $24 a GH/s?
It currently costs 1.45 Btc which at $650 per bitcoin is about $1000,
so 1000/180 = $5.55 GH/s

Speaking of off topic and completely FUD posts...

Bobsag, please confirm that the extra 2 months and 10% discount is also available for people who bought from MinerSource, thanks

Please PM me the information to do this, I will contact Verisilicon and confirm they are working on a product for you. I will then leave a write up of my experiences.  I will need phone number and any information that is needed to verify your claims.

If the vapourware condenses into magic silicon crystals on the 20th then the product will be available on the 24th in some sense of the word. I hope BA's intentions are honest and that everybody gets to enjoy an ROI.

On a side note:

Magic the Gathering online exchange, seriously?

OK, well if they were planning to be gone during the CNY, then tapeout needed to happen 2 weeks earlier than we have been saying, (in order to have everything done and no work being done for 2 weeks).  So, that puts original tape out 2 weeks earlier, which brings us back to why weren't the customers informed until January?

So, I am not sure of the new guys name, what do you do for BA?  It seems that there are many PR people that we are meeting, Blackarrow, BAMatt, New guy, Bobsag, plus future PR person we are being promisee.  Everytime one of these people have stepped forth to "deliver" information, we end up getting nothing, becoming frustrated, and then the cycle of getting promised a new PR person comes from BA.  There seems to be a lot of people at BA brought on for no reason.  None of the people we talk to ever have any information, or seen to even be on the same continent as the engineers. So whats next?  We still have to wait for that PR person?

We were told that you would evaluate the number of people who wanted refunds and decide if they can be given.  When is the cutoff for that?  Certainly there has to be a date that I need to let MS know I want a refund before you do your evaluation to see if you have the money to refund us?  Please let me know when that is so I can make up my mind.

Are we done evaluating other compensation plans?  Or is this still happening?  I need to facts in order to make an informed decision to request a refund or keep my order.  Is 25% extra all we are getting?  I understand that 25% is all you could possibly swing right now, could we add discounts for future purchases of products then?  And if so what kind of discount are we talking?

Your original post says that 70% of production costs are already paid for.  So if you needed our pre order money, to pay wafer manufacturing costs, probably a couple millions dollars by my estimate (lets say 2M), which is only 30% of production costs, otherwise you would have money on hand, your saying that total costs to bring this chip to market are almost 10 million dollars?  Just a thought I had while writing the rest of this, but I think a comment would help with your transparency.

Nope, too late. Blackarrow signed off.

It's about time you asked Corporal Black Adder to make a guest appearance here and answer some questions.

The fact that I have posted that question about CNY multiple times, PMed BA multiple times and it's been ignored.
And oh, looks like BA is online.. let's see if he'll post...

This is what happens when a company decides not to be public; people do their own digging. And whether or not some stuff is true or some stuff is false will fall on deaf ears because y'all chose to be as private and secretive as possible.

So you could get out of a test.
Yes, you would, cuz you were in high school and didn't know any better.
Here's a question for you: why should I believe you?

Answer me something: are all of you guys located in Europe? Because I know you are.

Chinese New Year.

Okay, so now we have multiple Alexes. My trust in this company is growing by the minute. /s
You still haven't addressed my concern. What would you have said to me in PM? You can post it here publicly. Or just PM me yourself.

Well that'd be a great explanation - if only it came from blackarrow themselves.

OT: I wouldn't be recommending EarthVPN:
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Lol, seriously? When are you not sorry about the long response times? Why don't you just publicly answer the question?
And there's no way you're the new "press officer" cuz you've been on their forums for months now.

Seems to be the case. I'm pondering on whether or not to request a refund from bobsag3 now. If blackarrow isn't competent enough to answer a simple question, especially after they said they'd try to improve in the communication department, then I don't trust them to make a working miner. At least man up and admit you made an incorrect judgement call/lied to us.

So, blackarrow has been online multiple times since I sent my PM (twice) and since I've posted here multiple times too. So much for better communication.

BA:
You guys said that you would not be affected by the CNY, care to comment why "most of the staff" had off when you previously said it wouldn't affect you guys?