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Topic: Recieved 50GH BFL Single Today! - page 9. (Read 51113 times)

legendary
Activity: 3431
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June 21, 2013, 05:55:02 AM
This is really one of the best trolls on this site. I love how he stays in-character at all times.
I love such arguments. This really shows your bag of arguments is empty.
hero member
Activity: 952
Merit: 1009
June 21, 2013, 05:49:10 AM
This is really one of the best trolls on this site. I love how he stays in-character at all times.
legendary
Activity: 3431
Merit: 1233
June 21, 2013, 05:46:37 AM
Riiight, so you were just about to send to their bitcoin address when all of a sudden 5000 armed ninjas stormed into your house, grabbed your mouse and made you click the bitpay button, or did you manage to do it all by your big self?
Right, so if a company ABC instructs me on their invoice to pay to account 123456789 in bank XYZ they are not responsible for not delivering the purchase because I paid the bank instead of paying the company?!... Are you kidding? Do I have to have a contract with their bank to pay them?
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
Hodl!
June 21, 2013, 05:40:32 AM
Riiight, so you were just about to send to their bitcoin address when all of a sudden 5000 armed ninjas stormed into your house, grabbed your mouse and made you click the bitpay button, or did you manage to do it all by your big self?
legendary
Activity: 3431
Merit: 1233
June 21, 2013, 05:34:33 AM
Not really... Business works through contracts. BitPay is NOT turning my BTC into USD as I don't have any contractual relations with BitPay. BitPay is turning BFL's bitcoins into USD as BFL is a BitPay customer. It is completely up to BFL to decide what % of BTC received with BitPay they want converted into USD!

Derp!

You have a contract with bitpay when you CHOOSE to pay with bitpay.
Derp!

I don't because it is the choice of BFL to use BitPay. My choice is to pay in BTC.
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
Hodl!
June 21, 2013, 05:30:36 AM
Not really... Business works through contracts. BitPay is NOT turning my BTC into USD as I don't have any contractual relations with BitPay. BitPay is turning BFL's bitcoins into USD as BFL is a BitPay customer. It is completely up to BFL to decide what % of BTC received with BitPay they want converted into USD!

Derp!

You have a contract with bitpay when you CHOOSE to pay with bitpay.
legendary
Activity: 3431
Merit: 1233
June 21, 2013, 05:30:00 AM
If you paid for your order with 50 BTC, you should get a refund of 50 BTC. If you paid with $1000 USD, you should get a refund of $1000 USD.

Seems pretty obvious to me?

That is not obvious. The obvious thing is to get a refund based on the price and not what currency you paid with. They were priced in USD, and thus any refund :=USD sum.

Why do people close their eyes when they don't like to see the obvious? How many times do I have to tell you that it doesn't matter what is your price tag. It can be changed every second. What matters is the invoice! THE INVOICE IS THE COMMERCIAL DOCUMENT THAT IS BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION IN A COURT OF LAW! And BFL invoice clearly shows that it is priced BOTH in BTC and USD!

hero member
Activity: 1162
Merit: 500
June 21, 2013, 05:27:02 AM
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edit: look closely at his eyes and see what he sees

What he sees in front of him is a herd of ignorant sheep waiting to be fleeced.

But those eyes are evil. He knows he must hurt them emotionally before ripping off their skin for profit. You can see the disgust in his eyes for the, as he calls them, "monumental assholes" that he's about to rape. Muahahaha

Ah. Much better now.

full member
Activity: 211
Merit: 100
You are not special.
June 21, 2013, 04:39:24 AM
I reported that auction a couple days ago.. I'm sure others did as well..  Wink

Thanks! You did me a big favor. You really did.

So it got removed from ebay?! Are you still going to try and sell it?
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
One bitcoin to rule them all!
June 21, 2013, 04:14:17 AM
If you paid for your order with 50 BTC, you should get a refund of 50 BTC. If you paid with $1000 USD, you should get a refund of $1000 USD.

Seems pretty obvious to me?

That is not obvious. The obvious thing is to get a refund based on the price and not what currency you paid with. They were priced in USD, and thus any refund :=USD sum.
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1001
June 21, 2013, 04:10:48 AM
If you paid for your order with 50 BTC, you should get a refund of 50 BTC. If you paid with $1000 USD, you should get a refund of $1000 USD.

Seems pretty obvious to me?
Sure. People arguing the opposite are actually saying that BTC will never be used as a currency without the USD and will always depend on BTC/USD exchange rate. Sounds familiar, huh? They want BTC to be just an extension of the USD?! And those people claim they are part of BTC community!? It is beyond my understanding.





legendary
Activity: 3431
Merit: 1233
June 21, 2013, 02:43:31 AM
People here can be so immature regarding money
Obviously, you are one of them. This is why my professional advice to you is: Think twice before start selling something in bitcoins. If you can't manage BTC/USD exchange risk you'd better accept only USD. Don't try to pass this exchange risk on to your customers because what they buy is NOT USD but the actual products and services you sell!


sounds like someone over paid in BTC for his mining equipment and knows he will never make that many BTC back again.......
Oh, about 99% of BFL customers are in that category. Fortunately, I'm not a BFL customer.
legendary
Activity: 1036
Merit: 1000
Nighty Night Don't Let The Trolls Bite Nom Nom Nom
June 21, 2013, 02:33:03 AM
People here can be so immature regarding money
Obviously, you are one of them. This is why my professional advice to you is: Think twice before start selling something in bitcoins. If you can't manage BTC/USD exchange risk you'd better accept only USD. Don't try to pass this exchange risk on to your customers because what they buy is NOT USD but the actual products and services you sell!


sounds like someone over paid in BTC for his mining equipment and knows he will never make that many BTC back again.......
legendary
Activity: 3431
Merit: 1233
June 21, 2013, 02:27:41 AM
People here can be so immature regarding money
Obviously, you are one of them. This is why my professional advice to you is: Think twice before start selling something in bitcoins. If you can't manage BTC/USD exchange risk you'd better accept only USD. Don't try to pass this exchange risk on to your customers because what they buy is NOT USD but the actual products and services you sell!
legendary
Activity: 3431
Merit: 1233
June 21, 2013, 02:22:22 AM
bitpay who automatically turn your btc into USD that is how their business works.........
Not really... Business works through contracts. BitPay is NOT turning my BTC into USD as I don't have any contractual relations with BitPay. BitPay is turning BFL's bitcoins into USD as BFL is a BitPay customer. It is completely up to BFL to decide what % of BTC received with BitPay they want converted into USD!
legendary
Activity: 1036
Merit: 1000
Nighty Night Don't Let The Trolls Bite Nom Nom Nom
June 21, 2013, 02:21:24 AM
Bitcoin couod jever work in the real world if peopke acted like this. ....... you goto the locql store huy a tv worth 1000e for 10btc..... you then return the tv the following day when btc has dropped to 50e.... does the buyer now demand 20btc?

People here can be so immature regarding money

legendary
Activity: 3431
Merit: 1233
June 21, 2013, 02:15:24 AM
If you paid for your order with 50 BTC, you should get a refund of 50 BTC. If you paid with $1000 USD, you should get a refund of $1000 USD.

Seems pretty obvious to me?
Sure. People arguing the opposite are actually saying that BTC will never be used as a currency without the USD and will always depend on BTC/USD exchange rate. Sounds familiar, huh? They want BTC to be just an extension of the USD?! And those people claim they are part of BTC community!? It is beyond my understanding.
legendary
Activity: 1036
Merit: 1000
Nighty Night Don't Let The Trolls Bite Nom Nom Nom
June 21, 2013, 02:14:19 AM
Not really...... the units were priced in USD they acceptrd bitcoin as a payment meyhod via bitpay who automatically turn your btc into USD that is how their business works......... by buying the order and using bitpay as payment you accepted your htc would instantly become usd to pay for your order........ I dont like bfl one bit but if you paid in btc you dont have a leg to stand on
full member
Activity: 207
Merit: 100
June 21, 2013, 01:46:26 AM
If you paid for your order with 50 BTC, you should get a refund of 50 BTC. If you paid with $1000 USD, you should get a refund of $1000 USD.

Seems pretty obvious to me?
legendary
Activity: 3431
Merit: 1233
June 21, 2013, 01:29:10 AM
Well let's flip the possibilities.. and then add in a dash of reasoning..

If someone paid ~2.5 BTC to buy a Jalapeno right now.. and then 3 months from now BTC plunges to 5$ a BTC again..  Would that customer.. or YOU.. be DEMANDING that you get your 2.5BTC back?  
Of course, this is how markets work! By sending my BTC to BFL I'm buying ASICs. I'm not buying USD as BFL speculators want me to believe. If the price of BTC drops to zero the prices of all BFL ASICs will be zero as they'll be completely useless.
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