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Quote from: Hirose UK on November 19, 2024, 10:53:47 PM

A gambler will definitely do anything to keep playing and regardless of all the exceptions and prohibitions that have been given by gambling sites, paying money and borrowing other people identities will always be the main way for those who want to gamble without having to use their own data.

That's addiction playing here, cause after being restricted they get so uncomfortable and look for ways to keep up their gambling habits and that's what has led them to always finding a way out of everything. Most times it's not about money but one should adhere to some level of restrictions and this has been a very common issue in gambling thereby causing havoc to gambling sites.

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Quote from: Kemarit on January 07, 2025, 05:30:44 PM

Yeah, but in the end who do you think will lose in the end here if casinos found out that you are using as VPN to get around country restrictions? That's why it's not totally recommended to use it even if you think that you can justify it, i.e. you are a traveling person and so your IP will be different every time. But it's going to be a long battle to proved that with casinos specially if you are like withdrawing huge amount. Same as what this thread is all about, some group of individuals buying documents for KYC purpose so that they can play and again get around the policy of the casinos. Sometimes it really best to just play on casinos that you don't have problem with, or have your KYC pass instead of trying new one and then will have issues later, IMHO.

Yes, problems will be the common denominator, that's why I think that casinos that do not allow VPN have a good chance of being left behind, because there are casinos that do allow it, in the event of a drama everyone will support the casino, just because they repeat that this should not be, knowing that they are cutting themselves short, and that is why they give strength to the regulations, but I say something, without a doubt if it Allows it, why not ? That is a feature that is very good when choosing a favorite casino, it will have a wide Advantage over the others.

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Quote from: Dunamisx on January 09, 2025, 04:49:24 PM

If you're found being restricted from using a particular platform, then don't be too smart on yourself in finding an alternative access route to the platform, instead try and look for another platform and start all over with them, don't use vpn to bypass the sanction, because this may not be a permanent solution, when discovered, they may ban and by that time it may come unaware on us.

That is the problem of some gamblers. They don't understand why they have been banned, and instead of accepting it, they even try to force themselves to enter using an alternative way (VPN). I believe they know the consequences of their actions, but still, they deny it when caught and pretend they are not doing such bypasses or illegal entries.

Indeed, why choose to stay in that particular casino if we have other options? In fact, most casinos have the same games. Well, they might have different gambling experiences, which some gamblers are after.

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If you're found being restricted from using a particular platform, then don't be too smart on yourself in finding an alternative access route to the platform, instead try and look for another platform and start all over with them, don't use vpn to bypass the sanction, because this may not be a permanent solution, when discovered, they may ban and by that time it may come unaware on us.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on January 07, 2025, 08:04:00 AM

for real, casinos could block VPN usage is they're concerned about it
this is a common practice nowadays and many sites block it.
though it can usually be passed by using a dedicated IP
it's a game of cat and mouse after all

Yes, but if you look at it it doesn't make sense, if a casino blocks VPNs, there are other much more famous casinos that allow the use of VPNs, so that automatically removes customers from a casino. If I see that there is a casino where my country is restricted and then I use a VPN and they still ban me, then I don't enter that casino anymore, because it's not the only one. I'm sure there are better ones. So in view of this, you have to see that there is more variety in this, and the casino is the one that loses in the end. A casino does not support itself, it needs customers , and if the customers get hostile? How would they do afterwards to attract more customers? It's like stabbing Themselves.

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Quote from: Kemarit on January 07, 2025, 05:30:44 PM

Quote from: Lucasgabd on January 07, 2025, 08:04:00 AM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on January 02, 2025, 04:17:37 PM

Quote from: Lucasgabd on December 30, 2024, 07:28:48 PM

isn't it just better to opt for a casino that lets you play with or without VPNs and that has no KYC?
this is probably the most guaranteed way to not get involved into some trouble like when you make it big, win a prize but then you're unable to withdraw and use it because you had no KYC or something like that

this is the best approach

Yes, it is the best it can be, but since things are so difficult for some casinos, the fact of using a VPN should not imply not doing the VPN , that is what it is exclusively for, not Only to protect the connection or privacy, if a person is from a country that is prohibited and is in another Country , the KYC can be done, the same with a VPN, the VPN is only to be able to connect from a Different location and be able to access the casino , well maybe I have a Different Approach , because for me no country should be prohibited and if a person uses a VPN then they should allow it for everything , both for KYC and for playing and being able to withdraw.

for real, casinos could block VPN usage is they're concerned about it
this is a common practice nowadays and many sites block it.
though it can usually be passed by using a dedicated IP
it's a game of cat and mouse after all

Yeah, but in the end who do you think will lose in the end here if casinos found out that you are using as VPN to get around country restrictions? That's why it's not totally recommended to use it even if you think that you can justify it, i.e. you are a traveling person and so your IP will be different every time. But it's going to be a long battle to proved that with casinos specially if you are like withdrawing huge amount. Same as what this thread is all about, some group of individuals buying documents for KYC purpose so that they can play and again get around the policy of the casinos. Sometimes it really best to just play on casinos that you don't have problem with, or have your KYC pass instead of trying new one and then will have issues later, IMHO.

it depends if the casino is honest or not, some casinos have better track on paying costumers,
it also probably depends on the size of the win, if it is too big than there are greater chances of they asking for more documents and being troublesome on the process
maybe the safest way is sticking to the ones that ask no KYC.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on January 07, 2025, 08:04:00 AM

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on December 30, 2024, 07:28:48 PM

isn't it just better to opt for a casino that lets you play with or without VPNs and that has no KYC?
this is probably the most guaranteed way to not get involved into some trouble like when you make it big, win a prize but then you're unable to withdraw and use it because you had no KYC or something like that

this is the best approach

Yes, it is the best it can be, but since things are so difficult for some casinos, the fact of using a VPN should not imply not doing the VPN , that is what it is exclusively for, not Only to protect the connection or privacy, if a person is from a country that is prohibited and is in another Country , the KYC can be done, the same with a VPN, the VPN is only to be able to connect from a Different location and be able to access the casino , well maybe I have a Different Approach , because for me no country should be prohibited and if a person uses a VPN then they should allow it for everything , both for KYC and for playing and being able to withdraw.

for real, casinos could block VPN usage is they're concerned about it
this is a common practice nowadays and many sites block it.
though it can usually be passed by using a dedicated IP
it's a game of cat and mouse after all

Yeah, but in the end who do you think will lose in the end here if casinos found out that you are using as VPN to get around country restrictions? That's why it's not totally recommended to use it even if you think that you can justify it, i.e. you are a traveling person and so your IP will be different every time. But it's going to be a long battle to proved that with casinos specially if you are like withdrawing huge amount. Same as what this thread is all about, some group of individuals buying documents for KYC purpose so that they can play and again get around the policy of the casinos. Sometimes it really best to just play on casinos that you don't have problem with, or have your KYC pass instead of trying new one and then will have issues later, IMHO.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on January 02, 2025, 04:17:37 PM

Quote from: Lucasgabd on December 30, 2024, 07:28:48 PM

isn't it just better to opt for a casino that lets you play with or without VPNs and that has no KYC?
this is probably the most guaranteed way to not get involved into some trouble like when you make it big, win a prize but then you're unable to withdraw and use it because you had no KYC or something like that

this is the best approach

Yes, it is the best it can be, but since things are so difficult for some casinos, the fact of using a VPN should not imply not doing the VPN , that is what it is exclusively for, not Only to protect the connection or privacy, if a person is from a country that is prohibited and is in another Country , the KYC can be done, the same with a VPN, the VPN is only to be able to connect from a Different location and be able to access the casino , well maybe I have a Different Approach , because for me no country should be prohibited and if a person uses a VPN then they should allow it for everything , both for KYC and for playing and being able to withdraw.

for real, casinos could block VPN usage is they're concerned about it
this is a common practice nowadays and many sites block it.
though it can usually be passed by using a dedicated IP
it's a game of cat and mouse after all

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on December 30, 2024, 07:28:48 PM

isn't it just better to opt for a casino that lets you play with or without VPNs and that has no KYC?
this is probably the most guaranteed way to not get involved into some trouble like when you make it big, win a prize but then you're unable to withdraw and use it because you had no KYC or something like that

this is the best approach

Yes, it is the best it can be, but since things are so difficult for some casinos, the fact of using a VPN should not imply not doing the VPN , that is what it is exclusively for, not Only to protect the connection or privacy, if a person is from a country that is prohibited and is in another Country , the KYC can be done, the same with a VPN, the VPN is only to be able to connect from a Different location and be able to access the casino , well maybe I have a Different Approach , because for me no country should be prohibited and if a person uses a VPN then they should allow it for everything , both for KYC and for playing and being able to withdraw.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on December 30, 2024, 01:03:00 AM

Both offline and online gambling have their different fun and experience. Some people choose to play in online casino for different reasons like for security purposes. Security from family, some married men don't like to be seen gambling in public, some hide from their wife and children. Another security reason is when you win gambling through your phone your winnings are not known by the public and you are by that not susceptible
to attack except you are the one who disclosed your winning to the public. But with offline, you can't hide your winnings because people can know that easily or agent/workers can disclose their biggest winners innocently.

So that is why restricted gamblers will know how they can still playing gambling especially when they know about online gambling. They will still playing gambling by online because they can hides their gambling activity from other people so they will have their time to continue for gambling. Even if some casinos restricted their IP or block their account, those gamblers will not care because they believes they can find other ways to keep playing gambling on that site. That is happen to us which some of us want to still hide our gambling activity so we know what and how we should do to keep playing gambling.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on December 22, 2024, 02:51:55 PM

For every activity in this life there are always alternative solutions, what happens is that alternative solutions always go against the normal laws of many, be it rules, or what is in place in a country such as governments or regulatory entities, but for everything there is a solution, so yes , players will always find a way to play when they cannot do it from their country, the most common are paid VPNs, paid VPNs are the most used, of course if casinos have good security they detect that they are using VPN and that can result in problems and that is worse, but there are those alternatives.

isn't it just better to opt for a casino that lets you play with or without VPNs and that has no KYC?
this is probably the most guaranteed way to not get involved into some trouble like when you make it big, win a prize but then you're unable to withdraw and use it because you had no KYC or something like that

this is the best approach

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on December 22, 2024, 05:25:12 PM

It makes me think it is better not to try at all rather than risk our money as surely the casino detects it. I believe this is one of the reasons why some accounts get frozen, and many people claim they didn’t break any rules without realizing that using a VPN is already a violation especially if we are coming from restricted countries.

Some gamblers would deny their actions when they realized they have done something contrary to rules and regulations of a casino then they would claim the casino ban them without any fault of theirs. However, ignorant to the law or rule is not an excuse not to be punished. To read TOS is sacrosanct to play in casinos.

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on December 22, 2024, 05:25:12 PM

That is why, instead of going to online casinos, it is safer to stick to local casinos. It is much better than forcing ourselves into something that is clearly prohibited.

Both offline and online gambling have their different fun and experience. Some people choose to play in online casino for different reasons like for security purposes. Security from family, some married men don't like to be seen gambling in public, some hide from their wife and children. Another security reason is when you win gambling through your phone your winnings are not known by the public and you are by that not susceptible
to attack except you are the one who disclosed your winning to the public. But with offline, you can't hide your winnings because people can know that easily or agent/workers can disclose their biggest winners innocently.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on November 19, 2024, 09:12:58 PM

There are multitude of reasons why a gambler may be banned in a casino. Whether it is because of suspicious activity or misconduct, the casino doesn't just ban or restrict a gambler for no valid reason. But it seems like these restricted gamblers have found a way to still gamble. There is a group of people who would "borrow" the identity of others to continue betting. They would use other people's identification documents such as passports or driver's licenses. They would give it up once the rewards have been collected.

This article warns people about their privacy and is encouraging us to keep our information private as to not be stolen and used by other people for any illicit activities. Some people may allow their identity to be borrowed for a price of money but remember that if one of these restricted gamblers do anything illegal with your identity, it is you who will be in trouble.

There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?

This is a piece of insightful information because there are still some people who trust their family members, or neighbors in the aspect of using their private information, or identification documents for some online website registration, and doing so could lead to what you explained.
Another one is an indirect provision of identification documents which are documents some people provide to shady websites in which the shady actors later sell the ID information on the dark web.

Having said that, I have never experienced a casino ban before, all because the casino terms and conditions are what I always read first. I hope everyone reading this can also practice the habit of understanding the rules and regulations (with terms and condition) of a casino before using it.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on December 22, 2024, 05:25:12 PM

It makes me think it is better not to try at all rather than risk our money as surely the casino detects it. I believe this is one of the reasons why some accounts get frozen, and many people claim they didn’t break any rules without realizing that using a VPN is already a violation especially if we are coming from restricted countries.

That is why, instead of going to online casinos, it is safer to stick to local casinos. It is much better than forcing ourselves into something that is clearly prohibited.

vYes, without a doubt things are as you say, but if we start from the rights of us as humans, is it fair that they prohibit us? Is it fair that some kind of supposed boss restricts us even in our way of having fun? A casino as such should not care about anything but its people entering, I am sure that over time they will let customers use VPN, because these prohibitions do not make sense, it is not logical, but starting from the fact that in the world things are going to that level it is very sad, that is why many do it with the VPN, but obviously that is a way that is not recommended but it is a way.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on December 22, 2024, 02:51:55 PM

For every activity in this life there are always alternative solutions, what happens is that alternative solutions always go against the normal laws of many, be it rules, or what is in place in a country such as governments or regulatory entities, but for everything there is a solution, so yes , players will always find a way to play when they cannot do it from their country, the most common are paid VPNs, paid VPNs are the most used, of course if casinos have good security they detect that they are using VPN and that can result in problems and that is worse, but there are those alternatives.

It makes me think it is better not to try at all rather than risk our money as surely the casino detects it. I believe this is one of the reasons why some accounts get frozen, and many people claim they didn’t break any rules without realizing that using a VPN is already a violation especially if we are coming from restricted countries.

That is why, instead of going to online casinos, it is safer to stick to local casinos. It is much better than forcing ourselves into something that is clearly prohibited.

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Quote from: summonerrk on December 17, 2024, 09:19:42 AM

But in fact, the casino very easily sees who is using a VPN, and this is surprising. This is the first time I saw that changing the IP address does not help. I don’t know how, probably by some unique device identification number, but not everyone bypasses the login to an online casino now. Some are prohibited from entering and this cannot be deceived or bypassed in any way.

I thought there are some VPN that are so strong and almost invincible to devices that do not have additional helps to help detect if VPN are being used. I am not talking about free VPN but the expensive ones that we have to buy. Casinos do not have all the technology and you can bypass some of their restrictions but it would not be a good advice to do them because you can be caught and when that happens and there are still some money on your account, you can get blocked and you lose everything depending on the casinos rules because some of them allow you to withdraw your money left in your account before they finally block it. They will give you some days notice to do that but do not hope on that happening.

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For every activity in this life there are always alternative solutions, what happens is that alternative solutions always go against the normal laws of many, be it rules, or what is in place in a country such as governments or regulatory entities, but for everything there is a solution, so yes , players will always find a way to play when they cannot do it from their country, the most common are paid VPNs, paid VPNs are the most used, of course if casinos have good security they detect that they are using VPN and that can result in problems and that is worse, but there are those alternatives.

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Quote from: summonerrk on December 17, 2024, 09:19:42 AM

I used to think that it was easy for a gambler to cheat an online casino if they banned him, because it was enough to find fake documents (there are a lot of them and they are easy to buy) and also install a VPN on your computer or smartphone.
But in fact, the casino very easily sees who is using a VPN, and this is surprising. This is the first time I saw that changing the IP address does not help. I don’t know how, probably by some unique device identification number, but not everyone bypasses the login to an online casino now. Some are prohibited from entering and this cannot be deceived or bypassed in any way.

many websites block VPNs nowadays, it's not a foolproof solution

if you really want to cheat on online gambling websites and casinos my main advice would be:
- don't do it

either stop gambling completely or go the correct way with KYC and everything they ask...
just not worth to cheat it, and it's not ethical either in case you care

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I used to think that it was easy for a gambler to cheat an online casino if they banned him, because it was enough to find fake documents (there are a lot of them and they are easy to buy) and also install a VPN on your computer or smartphone.
But in fact, the casino very easily sees who is using a VPN, and this is surprising. This is the first time I saw that changing the IP address does not help. I don’t know how, probably by some unique device identification number, but not everyone bypasses the login to an online casino now. Some are prohibited from entering and this cannot be deceived or bypassed in any way.

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Quote from: danadc on December 12, 2024, 09:56:44 AM

Doing that kind of acts is dangerous and sooner or later it will have consequences and that is something that cannot be avoided, if KYC of other people is Obtained at some point the casino will want to have more things, more requirements and the Names and personal data of the person appearing is something that should not be done, we must Remember that they are not only identification documents, some even go to videos of the person live and direct just to be able to Verify that Things are with that person, and that is to avoid this type of problems.

You are right, it is not only better, but also safer to always adhere and obey every restriction rules coming from casinos to the gamblers,, and also when the restriction is coming from the government of the country, it all depends on the sentiment of the people concerning the restriction, if generally, people accept it and ready to work with the government to ensure that defaulters are well punished, it's better to obey such restrictions as well. But if the restrictions is one that is not accepted by the masses, it simply means that alot of people will try to find alternative ways of bypassing such restriction, in such a situation, there is nothing the government can do since they can not punish everybody in the country.

Coming back to casinos restricting users of a particular country, I will never advice anyone to go against such, by finding alternative means of bypassing it, this has never ended well for most who did it.

I know that I shouldn't go against what they prohibit , because that is already in another legal issue, but it is necessary to know that prohibiting certain activities will not solve anything, on the contrary, it encourages the creation of illegal activities with respect to that, in that sense I do not blame those who want to echo their great anger, and that is where governments and People who are not pro-casinos come in, and that is something that should not be, sometimes a government what it does is give more hatred to its citizens, that is why we are the ones who must make the difference in every sense.

you can (almost) always change country
easier said than done, of course
but the tendency for countries that limit freedom is probably to have more people flying away for places where they have a better quality of life.
many times government create several problems trying to fix things

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