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hero member
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December 05, 2024, 07:26:26 PM
Borrowing a document and using it just to fulfil the KYC requirement and making use of the platform is really an unnecessary thing. Surely this is going to create a problem in the long run. Using the KYC of a person from a particular person of a specific country and reaching the platform through a VPN stating the reach from the particular nation will make it perfect. However, when we face some issues, we can't manage and give proper responses to the questions raised by the support team to solve issues.
Borrowing a document from other people to fulfil the KYC requirement is not a good option but some people still use that to get the bonus from casino. They don't think much about the risk that they can get when casino know what they do. Maybe that will not happen in short run but that will cause a problem in the long run. But those people will not care because as long as they can get the benefit from casino, they will still do that and even they may reopen more accounts and use the other people's document to chase what they want. That is why the cheat gamblers will always found the way to stay at the casino and get the benefits of that before the casino found them.
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December 05, 2024, 06:48:57 PM
Borrowing a document and using it just to fulfil the KYC requirement and making use of the platform is really an unnecessary thing. Surely this is going to create a problem in the long run.
That is totally right.

That will create ruckus to the one who is gambling with that account. A gambler that have borrowed identity just to get KYCed will surely run into problems.

We will never know when but if the time comes and that person who they borrowed document for verification isn't around and the casino asks for an additional doc, what could they do with that and if there is some hefty funds that are in there?

but now... do you really think so?
I mean, how often they will check KYCed accounts?
all the time or only after big wins?
I think usually they check on us whenever we're about to withdraw such huge amounts.

and even if they check, why can't the person just borrow it again and pay, to solve the problems they may have had...
I'm not sure...
You'll never know if that person is still there when he's needed.

Even though we talk like this, the fact is that there are still a lot of people who try to do that and even things like this can happen around us for various reasons that ultimately only center on personal gain in the end.

I'm not going to say that this is justified because for me it only makes things more complicated for myself but for some people who do this they must also have their own views so they try to register and KYC with someone else's identity in order to benefit themselves.
My friend is like this where he did KYC with someone else's data because he thought that he really didn't want to be registered on a gambling site but still wanted to gamble on it. I can't prohibit it because in the end there is already a decision between one and the other so everything that is done in the end depends on the point of view and there will definitely be pros and cons about this.
There's a difference about a guy wanting to gamble using others identity and someone who wants to do it on his own with his own identity.

The first person would easily go away with whatever he's got because he's got no obligation as it's not his identity. Whilst the latter, there's a sense of responsibility because of using his own identity.
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December 05, 2024, 04:56:32 PM
Borrowing a document and using it just to fulfil the KYC requirement and making use of the platform is really an unnecessary thing. Surely this is going to create a problem in the long run.
That is totally right.

That will create ruckus to the one who is gambling with that account. A gambler that have borrowed identity just to get KYCed will surely run into problems.

We will never know when but if the time comes and that person who they borrowed document for verification isn't around and the casino asks for an additional doc, what could they do with that and if there is some hefty funds that are in there?
Even though we talk like this, the fact is that there are still a lot of people who try to do that and even things like this can happen around us for various reasons that ultimately only center on personal gain in the end.

I'm not going to say that this is justified because for me it only makes things more complicated for myself but for some people who do this they must also have their own views so they try to register and KYC with someone else's identity in order to benefit themselves.
My friend is like this where he did KYC with someone else's data because he thought that he really didn't want to be registered on a gambling site but still wanted to gamble on it. I can't prohibit it because in the end there is already a decision between one and the other so everything that is done in the end depends on the point of view and there will definitely be pros and cons about this.

legendary
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December 05, 2024, 04:26:19 PM
Borrowing a document and using it just to fulfil the KYC requirement and making use of the platform is really an unnecessary thing. Surely this is going to create a problem in the long run.
That is totally right.

That will create ruckus to the one who is gambling with that account. A gambler that have borrowed identity just to get KYCed will surely run into problems.

We will never know when but if the time comes and that person who they borrowed document for verification isn't around and the casino asks for an additional doc, what could they do with that and if there is some hefty funds that are in there?

but now... do you really think so?
I mean, how often they will check KYCed accounts?
all the time or only after big wins?
and even if they check, why can't the person just borrow it again and pay, to solve the problems they may have had...
I'm not sure...
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December 04, 2024, 04:16:06 PM
Borrowing a document and using it just to fulfil the KYC requirement and making use of the platform is really an unnecessary thing. Surely this is going to create a problem in the long run.
That is totally right.

That will create ruckus to the one who is gambling with that account. A gambler that have borrowed identity just to get KYCed will surely run into problems.

We will never know when but if the time comes and that person who they borrowed document for verification isn't around and the casino asks for an additional doc, what could they do with that and if there is some hefty funds that are in there?
hero member
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December 04, 2024, 04:00:41 PM
Borrowing a document and using it just to fulfil the KYC requirement and making use of the platform is really an unnecessary thing. Surely this is going to create a problem in the long run. Using the KYC of a person from a particular person of a specific country and reaching the platform through a VPN stating the reach from the particular nation will make it perfect. However, when we face some issues, we can't manage and give proper responses to the questions raised by the support team to solve issues.
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December 04, 2024, 03:45:59 PM
if a casino does not want to let someone onto its site, they will ban the VPN, and the player will not be able to do anything.
It is not that the casino doesn't want those people on the countries that they restrict but it's just that it is only ordered by them by their license provider or the government. That is what I heard before but that must be true because if they won't obey it, they will also be in trouble and as a casino, they would also want more customers to play on them (if ever), as that means more income for them as well.

There are still casinos that allow a VPN despite having a country restriction. I know and use some of them before though, that is why I know. There are reasons on why they do this and I think this backfires them but luckily those casinos I know are still there, operating smoothly. Maybe they still have measures to detect players that are not genuinely residing on that country where they use a VPN.
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December 04, 2024, 11:24:58 AM
It seems to me that in physical casinos it is absolutely impossible to get into the casino using someone else's documents, because the people at the entrance are not fools and they understand perfectly well who is in the photo and who is in front of them.

Maybe you can't use the other user documents, but you could use someone else bank account. In my country when you go to the casino they ask for a bank card, if you make a profit the money goes to that bank account, so, you could get a bank card from another person and use that to gamble, And it's similar to the online casinos, if you win big then they could ask for more documents but if you win small amounts there will not be any problem.

With such rules, maybe the casino still hasn't gotten any restricted or banned gamblers. Because I am sure, when the casino has gotten restricted and banned gamblers, then the casino will apply stricter rules. Although they ask or require visitors to provide bank accounts, but if the rules are stricter then they will also still ask for other identification to match or ensure that the names listed on the identity and bank accounts are the  same which of course their faces will also be displayed on the identity card. Because it seems, to apply such rules is easier to implement in offline casinos, while for online casinos of course there are many ways for gamblers to stay in despite the restrictions.
legendary
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December 04, 2024, 11:16:09 AM
It seems to me that in physical casinos it is absolutely impossible to get into the casino using someone else's documents, because the people at the entrance are not fools and they understand perfectly well who is in the photo and who is in front of them.

Maybe you can't use the other user documents, but you could use someone else bank account. In my country when you go to the casino they ask for a bank card, if you make a profit the money goes to that bank account, so, you could get a bank card from another person and use that to gamble, And it's similar to the online casinos, if you win big then they could ask for more documents but if you win small amounts there will not be any problem.
Casinos with professionals should be able to know that the bank card you are coming to gamble with isn't yours if actually they really paying any attention..
I mean, bank cards usually have the holders name imprinted on it, and such names usually match the document the holder used to open the account in the bank when it was opened.
So, professionals who are good at their job should know that when they ask for your bank card, they should also ask for your document, which as well must have your picture on it..

First is that - the name on the bank card must match the name on the document provided.
Second is that - the picture or image on the document provided must match the image of the person standing right in their front, if there is any form of descrepancies in any of this, it simply means that the gambler is not qualified to gamble but only forcing his way in.

And on the other hand, if there be difference in this documents but the staffs of the casino can't take notice of it, it simply means that they don't know how to do their job well.
legendary
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December 04, 2024, 11:06:42 AM
The OP wrote the right things, which I fully support and do not recommend anyone to play with someone who is prohibited from doing this from other accounts, or to try to lure an IP address. Because at one point, when we are lucky enough to win, it may happen that we will never be allowed to withdraw the money because of this, so it is better not to play with fire from the start. I play only where I am allowed and even if verification is required, I will do it myself, without anyone's help, so as not to have problems in the future. Although you can never be 100% sure that there will be no problems.

I agree
following the rules is important
you don't want to disobey or something
like these people who gamble on kyc casinos, win and end up unable to withdraw, complaining here in the forum afterwards

why they were gambling on a kyc casino if they didn't intend to withdraw from the beggining?
you know what I mean?
legendary
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December 04, 2024, 10:03:23 AM
Yes, I understand that the only reasonable way for gamblers, in whose country casinos are banned, is to find documents for KYC and VPN corresponding to this country. And now I think that thanks to AI everything is much easier. Have you seen a program for creating KYC documents? Please google it and you will be surprised how variable and powerful such a program is.
And in recent weeks I hear here and there that crypto exchanges are massively banned for this, I think this happens in casinos all the time, but we do not hear about it, the thing is they do not write about it so often in their blogs. But now it is a real problem for them.
That is not really reasonable, if a gambler finds that most casinos ban their location as eligible to play there or gambling is illegal on the country in which they live, the best thing to do is simply to not gamble, this is because it is simply not worth it to get into all kind of trouble over something that should be a simple hobby, besides I do not see the point, as even if you happened to win passing KYC policies while playing from a VPN and using forged documents means that most likely your account will be flagged as suspicious and you will need overcome more stringent standards.
legendary
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December 04, 2024, 08:24:34 AM
It seems to me that in physical casinos it is absolutely impossible to get into the casino using someone else's documents, because the people at the entrance are not fools and they understand perfectly well who is in the photo and who is in front of them.

Maybe you can't use the other user documents, but you could use someone else bank account. In my country when you go to the casino they ask for a bank card, if you make a profit the money goes to that bank account, so, you could get a bank card from another person and use that to gamble, And it's similar to the online casinos, if you win big then they could ask for more documents but if you win small amounts there will not be any problem.
hero member
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December 04, 2024, 08:20:47 AM
I don't know how it works, but they really do have such a tool, and I have seen it several times. Therefore, if a casino does not want to let someone onto its site, they will ban the VPN, and the player will not be able to do anything.
Though before most people sell of their documents to outsiders who are using to pass kyc to the gambling site would always tell them to using same location while using their site. What I mean is that, if someone purchase kyc documents from someone in US and he passed the kyc from the gambling site, when login he would always tell the person to use same location instead of logging-in from their country location and he would also enable VPN to suit the previous of accessing the site.

Yes, I understand that the only reasonable way for gamblers, in whose country casinos are banned, is to find documents for KYC and VPN corresponding to this country. And now I think that thanks to AI everything is much easier. Have you seen a program for creating KYC documents? Please google it and you will be surprised how variable and powerful such a program is.
And in recent weeks I hear here and there that crypto exchanges are massively banned for this, I think this happens in casinos all the time, but we do not hear about it, the thing is they do not write about it so often in their blogs. But now it is a real problem for them.
sr. member
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December 03, 2024, 11:05:36 AM
They always find a way how? There is only one way and thats through stolen identity or borrowed ID, mind you, not all borrowed identities are meant for illegal activities, some gamblers just don't see any way to pass verifications, either been too young or other.

Either ways I am not in support of any illegal activities through gambling, there is nothing wrong in using your own ID to pass verifications, unless you have some evil plan in mind, if you can't pass KYC because you hate it then don't gamble on a KYC compliance casino.

I don't see any ways that gamblers can go about it, if you are restricted it is over, use VPN they can still detect you, many gamblers don't even know that every devices have a specific ID numbers, this is just one of few ways to know that it is you again, trying to bypass.
legendary
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December 03, 2024, 10:32:24 AM
I don't know how it works, but they really do have such a tool, and I have seen it several times. Therefore, if a casino does not want to let someone onto its site, they will ban the VPN, and the player will not be able to do anything.
Though before most people sell of their documents to outsiders who are using to pass kyc to the gambling site would always tell them to using same location while using their site. What I mean is that, if someone purchase kyc documents from someone in US and he passed the kyc from the gambling site, when login he would always tell the person to use same location instead of logging-in from their country location and he would also enable VPN to suit the previous of accessing the site.
What if the casino asks for other documents such as bills or source of funds then this will be even more complicated not about the location it accesses but the casino will easily detect people using a VPN.
So don't do it like this because no matter what in the future it will definitely be found out, don't force it if you can't afford it.
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December 03, 2024, 10:14:24 AM
Before a casino website can restrict you not to participate or associate yourself to their platform that might be a a commitment from you because I know quite well that a good casino gambling platform cannot suspend you or banned you no to deposit or gamble with them without a cogent reasons some persons do not follow the rules and the regulations of Casino gambling and that is one of the major reasons why they are restricted secondly that is on something countries that is not allowed or permitted to register in some gambling platforms but the thing is that many people use a VPN to buy caught the platform in other order to make a register that will lead them to involve in such gambling platform, if notice by the team of the gambling platform they will restrict them.
The casino can restrict you from their place easily but you may not realize what is your mistake. That is what happen to many gamblers so that makes them complain to the casino and even they use this forum to get attention from the casino. Gamblers don't know if that is their own mistake so the casino restricted them from gambling in their casino. If we don't make any mistake, we will be okay and could playing gambling without any problems. But if gamblers doing something that break the casino rules, the casino will restricted you and even will ban you easily so you will not have a chance to play gambling on that casino. Even if you use other people identity to verify your account, casino can know and will ban you again.
hero member
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December 03, 2024, 08:32:37 AM
There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?
Do Casinos really want to ban gamblers from their casinos and do we think they will make such efforts to limit the number of people involved in it. KYC is only intended to verify authenticity but they never care about using real identities or not for gamblers who are involved in it because all they want is for KYC to run as expected.

I never thought casinos would try to restrict gamblers because in essence they see an opportunity to influence many people to get involved in it and this is a business where the more people involved in it the bigger the site will be, there is always no perfection in the system because there are loopholes that can be exploited by users.
hero member
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December 03, 2024, 08:15:34 AM
The OP wrote the right things, which I fully support and do not recommend anyone to play with someone who is prohibited from doing this from other accounts, or to try to lure an IP address. Because at one point, when we are lucky enough to win, it may happen that we will never be allowed to withdraw the money because of this, so it is better not to play with fire from the start. I play only where I am allowed and even if verification is required, I will do it myself, without anyone's help, so as not to have problems in the future. Although you can never be 100% sure that there will be no problems.

You can’t blame gamblers for finding ways to gamble, but if it were me, I’d stick to violations with fewer consequences rather than doing something as serious as using someone else’s documents for KYC, that’s straight-up illegal. Using a VPN to bypass IP restrictions seems like a less risky option. Worst case? Your account gets locked, and you lose your funds, but you can create a new one if you’re okay with the risk.

On the other hand, falsifying documents is a whole different story. That can land you in serious legal trouble, even jail time, and it’s definitely not worth it.
hero member
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December 03, 2024, 07:41:34 AM
The OP wrote the right things, which I fully support and do not recommend anyone to play with someone who is prohibited from doing this from other accounts, or to try to lure an IP address. Because at one point, when we are lucky enough to win, it may happen that we will never be allowed to withdraw the money because of this, so it is better not to play with fire from the start. I play only where I am allowed and even if verification is required, I will do it myself, without anyone's help, so as not to have problems in the future. Although you can never be 100% sure that there will be no problems.
legendary
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There's no need to be upset
December 03, 2024, 07:35:24 AM
Before a casino website can restrict you not to participate or associate yourself to their platform that might be a a commitment from you because I know quite well that a good casino gambling platform cannot suspend you or banned you no to deposit or gamble with them without a cogent reasons some persons do not follow the rules and the regulations of Casino gambling and that is one of the major reasons why they are restricted secondly that is on something countries that is not allowed or permitted to register in some gambling platforms but the thing is that many people use a VPN to buy caught the platform in other order to make a register that will lead them to involve in such gambling platform, if notice by the team of the gambling platform they will restrict them.

since its a company with their own rules and you are playing there they can restrict your access for anything they want and allegate that this is for the system security or some bananas
that's why it is usually better to opt for known casinos and betting websites

better safe than sorry
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