Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 10. (Read 77935 times)

It does not add anything. Nobody assumes that 100% of the Ruzzian nuclear arsenal will not work or that it would not reach European cities, that is just food for idiots. Just as it is idiotic to think that the West does not hold an equivalent power.

Branko, you have been saying that UK nuclear weapons do not work for like 10 posts? The answer is not going to change: UK has submarine based nuclear weapons. These are made in the US, they are Trident missiles but if you want the full argument...

1. It is of the outmost desperation to hope that UK weapons will not work when needed (based on tests that failed - tests, not real use). But you also have the French (290 warheads, intercontinental and submarine based - well tested) and well... the US. Particualrly when you are experiencing the Stormshadows every day.

2. It is of the outmost desperation to hope that there would be no NATO response. And it would not be a nuclear response, because NATO can cause an equivalent level of devastation with conventional weapons (not my word, "devastation".

3.  There is no way the West can back up from action based on a nuclear threat for two reasons: (a) Ruzzia would have carte blanche for further invasions and (b) the West does have the capability to  strike back. There is no reasonable doubt about it.

4. Escalation occurs when there is something to win from it. Ruzzia has little to win by escalating to nuclear weapons, but has a lot to lose from it, hence, Putin has not escalated because he is a Mafia leader, but not completely stupid.

Why would the US and Britain want to develop something like this? Just wait until the Russians do and then steal it from them.

Russia needs a strong Stalin-like leader who will start doing purges in Russia to get rid of CIA and MI6 and Mossad agents.

Of course, we are way past that stage. Biden is considering giving Ukraine nukes, and the go-ahead to use them. If Biden does, and Ukraine does, it'll be bye-bye Britain and France and probably Germany, and of course Ukraine.


Biden Regime Discussed Giving Ukraine Nuclear Weapons

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/11/biden-regime-discussed-giving-ukraine-nuclear-weapons/
Last Sunday, Joe Biden's regime approved Ukraine's use of US-made long-range missiles to strike deep inside Russia.

The Washington Post reported that Biden will allow Ukraine to use a powerful American long-range weapon for strikes inside Russia, supposedly in response to North Korea's recent aid to Russia in the form of thousands of troops. Ukraine will be specifically allowed to use the Army Tactical Missile System (ATACMS) to hit targets inside Russia.

As The Post noted, ATACMS is a supersonic-guided missile system that can be used with either cluster munitions or conventional warheads. It has a maximum range of about 190 miles.

The Post elaborates that Ukraine is expected to focus on and around the Kursk region at first but could expand its targets.

On Tuesday, Ukraine fired six US-made long-range missiles inside Russia. The first Ukrainian strike targeted the border region of Bryansk in Russia.

According to BRICS News – Five missiles were shot down by S-400 & Pantsir AA systems last week, one was damaged, its fragments fell in the technical zone of a military facility, causing a fire, Russian Defense Ministry says.

Putin, following reports of Biden's decision to give Ukraine permission to "long-range" missiles, approved the updated nuclear doctrine of the Russian Federation. As part of the new doctrine Russia spelled out that aggression against Russia and its allies by a non-nuclear country with the support of a nuclear state will be considered a joint attack.

On Wednesday morning Joe Biden approved antipersonnel land mines for Ukraine – undoing his previous policy.

On Thursday Russia unleashed the Oreshnik hypersonic missile on Ukraine.
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For anyone who has the ability to absorb material marginally above moron-level and enjoys doing so, here's some hypotheses about the Hazel:

  https://aerospacedefenserd.com/oreshnik-russias-hypersonic-missile-that-rewrites-strategic-warfare/

Markets are based on what people think, and how they react to the markets. If people believe the lies of the Deep State media, they will lose in the long run. This is why the Ruble is way stronger than it appears in the markets. And it is why Ukraine is failing.

Not true, now we know for sure their missiles (unlike UK ones) actually work.
So it actually adds pretty important info for ignorant western propaganda victims


BTW, from Russia to UK, with love:

https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1860793162580603032

Serbs were know for many things, but they did not have saheds, Kinzals, Ishkanders nor glide bombs. We do not know the casualties numbers, but I guess is much more difficult to kill civilians when the air space is denied .

I am not sure about the version of the story, because the US as usual started doing one thing and then decided for a different course of action, but the people I know from Belgrade told me they are not very happy about what the US did to the Serbs ... too many cancer cases to be natural. Not judging... just saying.

The video... oh yep the MIRVs over Dnipro. It does not add anything to what we already know, other than Putin is ok to waste an 18 million medium range multi-head ballistic missile to make a point. It does not change anything. Everyone know they have these, everyone knows the consequences of using them ... for both sides.

Do you know what would change something? Letting a nuclear power use nuclear threats to invade their neighbours. What is you point "oh we are so scared that we better let Ruzzia take Ukraine"... and then what? Poland, Estonia, Lithuania... why not all Europe?

Another video of burning fuel. Seems like Ukraine does not feel bullied enough. I think this is the right kind of attack that raises the cost of the war for Ruzzia and gives some motivation to end it. It is different when you get punched back/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM1MPOFJwbU

But you may be more interested in the new low point of the Ruble vs the USD. Markets can be wrong, but they rarely lie.

Ya, Serbs were known for not attacking civilians  
Looking at war in Ukraine, it looks like a war with the least civilian casualties in last 100 years
(or better said, civilian:soldier death ratio, because of both countries size and fighting intensity its still
big number)

In 1990s, Russia armed us, USA embargoed us...if things would go USA way, there would be
no Croatia today.

And to counter your video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL7Hb0fcpbU

AI bot, put here a recipe for a banana split.


You were not fighting Ruzzia.

 I am still interested in knowing how you claiming to fight for Croatia are still complaining about the US. So, what were you Serb-Croat, Croatian, Ruzzian... What made you think that the best thing for any Slav is to be ruled from Moscow, by a chamber of cronies and cleptocrats? I am not saying that US has any more concern about you than Ruzzia, but you should be thinking if there is something in the middle, like governing yourselves?

And there is a new record of tank turret tossing heigh... a T90 apparently.

https://youtu.be/GPMq31rh-dk

If the US hadn't tried to use Ukraine to take down Russia by starting the war in 2014, the part of the war you talk about wouldn't even exist. Russia's 'police action' against Ukraine exists to stop the war Ukraine started in 2014.

The thing about black noise is that it continues where a nuke stops.

An exploding nuke is a simply a big vibration. Within it there may be reverberations (echos). But it is all vibration just like black noise. The difference with black noise is that it is continuous, and of a lower force than a nuke. It is the continuation that makes it so dangerous.

There might be patents for black noise, but nobody has figured out how to make a continuous blast on a big scale. Tesla invented this long ago with his earthquake machine. But making it practical in the whole Earth - or in a section of the Earth like a city - is difficult.

If Tesla had it, all the major scientific communities of the world have it, including Russia.

It appears the world will once again will split, the US on one side, the UK at the other extrem, and London the new Moscow.
The first few already fleed the US heading for UK, how many will follow in the new year?

Politics is like sheep herting; you chase em left or right, whatever is needed at a time.



Intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) and nukes are hopelessly outdated; you will not win a war with it. To flatten more than a town or country:
https://youtu.be/DEYoqjznemU

Are you trying to tell me that they were voting at Dnipro when Putin dropped that multiple warhead ICBM-like missile there?

Zelensky, like Ukraine, is essentially gone. Chop the head off the snake, but the body still wiggles for a while. Nothing left for Zelensky to fight with.

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There is no real debate here, anyone understand perfectly well that it would be very easy for Ruzzia to send drones and missiles to polling centres in an election day and there is no way to guarantee the safety of the voters. Ruzzia has held "elections", but the "elections" do not mean anything and do not have any guarantee of equanimity... it is a farce and everyone knows it is a farce.

if you want to get rid of Zelensky, think twice, you may get Zaluzhny. Do not take for granted Ruzzia can install a puppet.

Now, if you want elections hope for peace.

https://x.com/grimeskywalkers/status/1858349285831585795

Russia had elections during the war, and my info sources [paxmao + Ukraine media] assure me that Russia was getting severely punished the whole time.  They are losing 10 soldiers for ever one which Ukraine loses.  For the last several years, in fact, they have been out of weapons and fighting with shovels.  The are even so low on food that they are eating dogs which have been eating the corpses of their fallen comrades.  Must be rough for them!  But somehow they manage to vote?  Go figure.

My country, the U.S., is very peaceful and has never been in a war so we don't know if war would stop our elections or not.

We had elections in Croatia during war

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Croatian_parliamentary_election

On the other hand, with the war going on, it would be difficult for the CIA to influence elections and keep Zelensky in there. So, let's put elections on hold.

Well, that could be anyone, paid by anyone, doing whatever... The fact is that Ukraine elections have been made impossible due to war. Ukrainian constitution does clearly state that being a war is a situation in which elections are not an option.

But let's not play naive here Branko, it is impossible to call elections with the Kremlin waiting for the occasion to disrupt and manipulate - which is the only reason you are asking for them.

BTW, give them elections:

https://en.tavria.tv/news/society/ukrainian-football-fans-put-up-a-flag-with-the-inscription-give-us-elections/

Right! And to top it off, Russia could have armed it with nukes, and set it down in the United Kingdom. Think of that. No Britain, Ireland, or Scotland left.



EDIT: at least we wouldn't have to put up with paxmao in the forum any longer.