Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 7. (Read 78843 times)

It had to be Putin apologising / they did not use Lavrov this time. This is quite interesting and the only way I can interpret it is as a nearly forced diplomatic gesture to countries that still accept flights from Ruzzia - and there are not that many.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/putin-apologises-aliyev-over-tragic-incident-with-azerbaijan-airlines-plane-2024-12-28/

It gives the impression that Ruzzia cannot guarantee the safety of civil aviation in vast swathes of their country. They should stop flying civil if they cannot distinguish a target or they do not mind enough about distinguishing a target not to fire "just in case". Just another day with another f*ckup with Z signature.

If Ukraine would be responsible country like Iran, they would tell in advance where will they hit,
like Iranians did

Of course, the Ukrainians might misidentify them as Russian drones.

Call ahead with your flight plan so that you are expected.

Now large part of Russian air space is unsafe for civilian aircrafts as they can be misidentified as Ukrainian drone. But what you can expect from them when Russian propaganda release such videos few days after terrorist attack:
https://t.me/dimsmirnov175/87047
They're to hit everything what's not Russian, even Santa.

Dunk generals and drunk Medvedev. Drunk because they don't want the responsibility on their heads because of what they will have to do if the Deep State pushes them too far... world war with nukes. Nobody likes playing that game, and especially to be perceived as the perpetrators of it. Putin's plan is working to keep this from happening, but we need the Putin plan to keep working to January 20 or longer.

They should have alerted all civilian traffic to divert BEFORE they started firing SAMs but that's too much work for the drunk generals. Human lives aren't worth shit in Russia anyway so why even bother.

When news about plane, someone on social media commented that Russia hit it. First it looked like cheap, bad joke. But when images of plane were posted and damage from shrapnel was visible, it can't be made by birds.
But even in this case they found how to blame Ukraine. They said that airport in Makhachkala couldn't accept flight because region was under attack of Ukrainian drones. And most likely Russian air defence misidentified plane as Ukrainian drone.
Azerbaijan Airlines cancelled flights to some Russian regions. But even after this attack wasn't enough to cancel all flights ro Russia.
Russia - shooting down civilian planes since 2014...

Russia didn't simply retaliate for Ukrainian aggression this time. Rather, Putin did their big push for two other reasons:
1. To show the world that Ukraine is at their mercy;
2. To calm things down a little so that the Russian troops can take the Russian Christmas (January 7) 'off', sort of, while Ukraine tries to regroup... do they have anybody left to regroup?

Watch Ukraine do more damage to themselves after their regrouping, by attacking Russia in some other way. Other nations live and learn. Why not Ukraine?

For a while, this looked like a civil war. But it's beginning to look like Mommy spanking the unruly Child.


Holiday Darkness: Massive Russian Christmas Day Attack Targets Multiple Energy Systems, Triggering Blackouts All Over Ukraine

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/12/holiday-darkness-massive-russian-christmas-day-attack-targets/
For the second year, Ukrainians were trying to celebrate Christmas on December 25th, a new date differing from long-established Orthodox Calendar that takes place on January 7th – in a bid to 'erase Russian influence'.

But for many, there was opportunity for merriment, as Russian forces enacted yet another massive air raid all over Ukraine, targeting the power infrastructure.

Reuters reported:

"Russia attacked Ukraine's energy system and some cities with cruise and ballistic missiles plus drones on Wednesday in an "inhuman" Christmas Day assault, Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said."

[…] Half a million people in Kharkiv region were left without heating, in temperatures just a few degrees Celsius above zero, while there were blackouts in the capital Kyiv and elsewhere."

Since the spring, Russia has intensified attacks on the Ukrainian energy sector damaging most of its generating capacity and causing prolonged blackouts.

"Ukraine's Energy Minister German Galushchenko said on Facebook that Russia was massively attacking the power sector and that restrictions on electricity supply were in place.

[…] Ukraine's largest private energy company DTEK said its generating facilities were attacked, with power equipment seriously damaged, in the 13th large-scale assault on the energy sector this year."

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The moment of a powerful Russian strike on Nazi targets in Kharkov (Nazi Ukraine)
11 explosions in 26 minutes
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I am going to quote you on this one, just to make sure we review in a month if this has any degree of truth to it. Spoiler alert: it is fake / disinformation. Branko, you are really running out of ideas. There are many channels publishing the fronts status independently from any Ukrainian and Ruzzian controlled media.

For example, in here you can one two hours of interceptions of Ruzzian 100.000 USD drones with Ukrainian cheap stuff... we are talking hundreds of documented interceptions - see, you do not need your telegram. Come for the video, stay for the music!

https://youtu.be/p9WNpegbmfE?t=1149


At this point Ruzzia is just desperate to stop drone attacks. One 20.000 drone, minus one 100 million oil storage facility....

Ruzzian channels are admitting I believe.

it is not easy to understand what will happen in future times, things could change and they could happen quickly, the fact is that Putin seems to be focused and going straight in his decision, so the war will happen and it also seems that he is intent on winning it

Kiev knows that they are lost. Might as well go out with a BANG that shows everybody how much of the aggressors they really are.

Kiev might have conquered Russia at some time in the past, but you see that the Russians have straightened things out.

Looks like glorious Russian aerospace forces were so excited bombing Ukraine that they shot down an Azerbaijani passenger jet just for shits and giggles. Can't wait for the kremlinbots to tell us it was actually Ukrainians who rented an anti-aircraft system in Poland and smuggled it into Chechnia.

Whole Ukrainian front is collapsing, lots of factories and facilities burning, so Sirski
did only logical thing and banned all Ukrainian telegram groups not controlled by SBU
because it became impossible to hide situation from public.

Even proukrainian Deepstate channel got banned and operators got called to join army


UA becoming desperate


BTW, firing $125k missile at $10k drone...and missing:

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/116042

Yesm you can skip over largerly irrelevant parts of history - e.g. when Ruzzia was ruled from Kiev - and still perfectly understand that Ukraine has not attacked Ruzzia, but rather the opposite. Moscow created a frozen conflict in the Dombas and then used it to further take Crimean. There is no Ukranian agression whatsoever in all this and you do not need to go to the theories about the Mechivick or Bolshevik revolutions and how was it promoted.

Now, have a look at this.. you see, this IS attacking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX9HrGFOPZ8

But the truest info can be found in the video...USA, Soviet Heated Argument | You Only Live Twice (1967)
Did you watch the video?

- The US is against Russia no matter what. Russia could do good, do nothing, or do bad and the US would be against her.

- Russia simply continues along without bothering anybody to speak of. Of course, when the US leans on Russia a little too hard, Russia leans back some. But in general, Russia is a peace-loving people.

- But the Brits are different. They think that the intruder missile came down in the Sea of Japan area... when everybody knows it took out a big, multi-embassy, embassy building in Kiev, Ukraine.

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All your blab about the war doesn't really present an overview of history. You can't accurately determine what is going on in the area until you realize that it was the US and the UK - along with some wealthy financiers - that made the Bolshevik Revolution happen. And if they hadn't injected a bunch of funds into the Bolshevik takeover afterward, it would have fallen shortly after it succeeded.

When you don't include this history, you can't come away with the right picture. This history and other is what Putin was telling Tucker in his interview, hoping that somebody would understand. It's reasonably common knowledge history. If you haven't looked, start here https://duckduckgo.com/?q=who+financed+the+bolsheviks%3F&ia=web.

The whole history of the USSR and Russia following this is based on the US and the UK - along with some wealthy financiers - trying to steal the Russian and Siberian lands from the Russia people.

I'll give you a big hint regarding what is really going on. The people who think they can take over the world don't really care where they do it from. If they can't do it by winning a war with Russia one way, they'll do it a different way. Much of it is a game to them... just to see if they can do it. They don't really care how many troops die on either side.

In reading the rapid events in Syria, one of the following scenarios is expected to occur in the Ukrainian issue: The West will stop supporting Ukraine and back down from all plans to continue confronting Russia in exchange for neutralizing Ukraine so that it becomes a buffer zone between Europe and Russia. Or the West will also stop confronting Russia by supporting Ukraine in exchange for stopping the Russian invasion of Ukraine and being satisfied with annexing the areas that were previously controlled.

Both of these scenarios indicate the end of the war in Ukraine in exchange for Russia abandoning its support for the Assad regime in Syria. This is simply because the West and America are competing for influence in both Europe and the Middle East, and each of them is exploiting the conflict in each region as a pressure card on the other party. Russia on the European side wants to impose its influence and control over all neighboring countries to secure its borders, and America in the Middle East wants to provide the necessary protection for Israel.

This is as usual false information, to the point that it belongs in a parallel universe.

There was a treaty by which Ukraine - a peace loving country - gave away their nukes for guarantees of protection - which have failed (that is the US failing once more to live to promises).

Ruzzia invaded Crimea in 2014 - there was not war whatsoever, the only reason was that Ukraine was considering not leasing Sebastopol to Ruzzia - which is their right as sovereign country.

Ruzzia was waging war in Ukraine - not the opposite - in the Dombas region - we are talking 2 Ruzzia army corps fighting and posing as "rebels" but financed 100% from Moscow. Then Ruzzia decided to up this a notch with their botched "special operation".

Not even the most abject of the Kremlin apologists dares to say that "Ukraine attacked Ruzzia" - you need a dumBAss like you for that job.

Russia has shown over and over that they are a peace-loving country.

The war was started by Ukraine in or before 2014.

Russia finally had to invade in 2022 just to stop the Ukrainian war.

If Russia wanted to make war, they could easily use some missiles like they have used twice lately, and taken Ukraine totally out.

Russia's using of the missiles finally, shows that there are really limits to what they will put up with. It doesn't show that they are afraid to protect themselves when necessary.

Russia is a peace loving people.

USA, Soviet Heated Argument | You Only Live Twice (1967)

BA does not necessarely feel the need to make sense. He can say one thing and the oposite just to keep walltexting on behalf of China. NATO was an alliance to stop the Soviet Union. NATO is still an alliance to mostly stop Ruzzia and possibly now China from threatening liberal democracies.

Once Ruzzia goes to war, it is obvious that you will need to spend monay to deter agression. That is not war-mongering, that is peace mongering. This is as old as Stormy Daniel's job to the point that there is an ancient say "si vis pacem, parabellum" - if you want peace prepare for war.

Again, it is time for Europe to become a military power of its own. The whole of Europe has only a basic army and the dependence on the US has been proven to be a problem now that US people are OK with leaving their partners to fend for themselves.

And I understand your need to keep the war going.

Regarding what Trump might do or might not do, we'll see.

However, my points in my post you partially quoted would bring peace, and that's what the point was... PEACE. As it stands right now, look at the fact that Russia hit Kiev with at least one missile, and messed up at least several embassies. Is that what you want throughout Ukraine? 700,000 dead Ukrainian troops wasn't enough for you? You want to destroy the whole Ukrainian population? You must be way more Russian than Russians are.