Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 6. (Read 56637 times)

The big lie is that aid to Ukraine in the United States is blocked by the House of Representatives of Congress. Biden has the ability to provide military assistance bypassing Congress, he just isn't using it. Ukraine has ceased to be interesting for the United States because no one wants to be associated with losers.

Name calling? You mean dumBAss? That is not name calling, it is a description.

It is ok to feel sorry, but if I were you well... you are wishing for a number of things that you will die without seeing and it is due to your lack of ability to see clearly and to convince others that you see clearly. That lack of meaning in your life is something to be sorry about - loosing the time you have been given on earth like that... what an immorality. If the NATO ever falls, you are going to have much bigger worries than writing stupid things here, that I can assure you.

Now to serious things - again, this means that all you have said is mumbling idiotic stuff - it seems that the Republicans will actually have to vote to deny or accept the aid to Ukraine. The speaker is confident it is getting in the agenda. Better late than never.

Lol. I'm simply enjoying your name calling. I'm not against you or anything like that. In fact, I feel rather sorry for you.

Do you remember the sanctions against Russia, and how they have improved her condition? The sanction-makers knew that Russia would improve because of them. That's why they did them. World behind-the-scenes leaders are building Russia up as their new home from where they will rule the world.

Ukraine is done for right now. Ukraine, itself is a long lost nothing. As the US and Nato fail, where are you going to go or be? You would be safer saying nothing, and quietly moving to Russia. Remember, Putin is offering 2.5 acres of land in Siberia for homesteading. Not nearly enough, but you could get your whole family involved, and maybe get 20 acres or more.

I mean, Polish people have big families, right? And they all support each other, right?

There is at least one serious study that claims that US citizens are one of the most non-contextual receivers of messages. In words that you can understand, you just do not get it and do not see even the most simple double meanings. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjxgI2c6pyFAxW7hf0HHaAoBdIQFnoECAIQAw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fastcompany.com%2F3059534%2Fthe-american-style-of-business-speaking-and-why-you-need-to-master%23%3A~%3Atext%3DThe%2520U.S.%2520is%2520generally%2520a%2Cget%2520straight%2520to%2520the%2520facts.&usg=AOvVaw3ZtrxfehIcXCv7L9soUgWd&opi=89978449

Now to serious matters (for context, since you tend to miss it, this implies you are not a serious matter dumBAss, nor anything you say), the glorious Air defence forces or Ruzzia have gloriously taken down their own SU-27. The pilot has survived, which speaks of either how hard are these planes or how weak are the air to air missiles depending on your point of view.

Sounds more like your level of thinking is not that good. But we knew that, now didn't we.

Oh, I can see your level of English is not good enough to understand this, let me translate: "UK could not fight Ruzzia for 2 months" means we want to reduce social care, raise the state pension age, put more taxes and raise the military salaries and get the public health system to even a lower standard and buy weapons instead.

And the funny thing is that it is quite likely to happen, as Ruzzia pushes people perceive that they are under threat. As the joke in the US marines goes "our enemies are about to find out that we do not have a public health system".

Anyway, if the situation comes, the UK would call Ukraine for help, they seem to know how to drone Ruzzis.

Rooineks admit they could not fight Russia:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/26/weakened-uk-military-two-months-war-russia/

It is a known practice from Russia to make themselves terrorist attacks in order to justify using even more means of war than they already have so I am not surprised at all.Just recall in 2002 when they blew up in a similar fashion blaming someone else and using that as a pretext to start a war against Chechnya.I also agree there will be no real winners here as both countries beside big losses in human life Ukraine more than 500.000 persons overall and Russia over 300.000 persons overall shows that they have both not won anything out of this war and Ukraine for sure didn't start the war.Russian economy has taken the hardest hit out of this war ongoing for more than 2 years spending a lot of resources and having difficulties now to be in the same economic power they were before the war.

Yeah, war is going for more than 2 years and there is no signs of near end of it. Hundreds of thousand people from both sides killed and injured, whole cities and infrastructure destroyed, lossing military potential. Considering these things, it will be difficult to call someone as winner.
And when Russia is advancing further and taking some ruins of what used to be town or village, such photos is best indicator what Russia brings.
BTW, it's fun to watch how Russia is desperately trying to blame Ukraine for terrorist attack in Moscow, despite that they have zero arguments and proofs to back their accusations.

Just look at the destruction on both sides. If this continues, I don't see how anybody can claim victory. Russia has recently lost 4 military ships and suffered damage to its refineries and Ukraine's power grid was attacked in retaliation, not to mention missile attacks on Kyiv and Lviv. Then there's a terrorist attack in Moscow and so it continues.
2 years forward and Russia will lose all of its military potential, while Ukraine will turn into a barren wasteland that nobody will be able to use for any agricultural or industrial production for another decade.

Fun fact, Russians are finally starting to admit that they're at war. after 2 years it's no longer a special operation

Really? So it was not you who claimed Russian missiles were responsible for destroyed Ukrainian dam 2 years ago?
Even some rooineks media reported it:
https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/world-news/russian-dambusters-strike-siverskyi-donets-28070617

Be... You would need like 100 missiles to take the dam down. This is not "pinpoint" accuracy, it is basic physics. Ruzzia knows that this would damage floodgates and part of the electrical infrastructure but not because they Psychos in your army would not want to destroy it completely, but just because that is as much as they can do.

You can say strikes are symmetrical, but I have provided figures that proof of asymmetrical the effects are but to put it even easier Ruzzia´s whole economy hangs on the nail of exporting oil, Ukraine does not in having gas facilities. Figures in my previous post show this to anyone willing to see it.

My guess is that Ukraine has not targeted more refineries, terminals and oil storage just because they did not have the native technology to do so, which now they do have and they were possibly on an agreement with US not to rise oil prices, which given the reluctance of MAGAs to fund the war does not longer matter much.

As said, keep some gas in a can, you may need it.

A massive missile strike on the ground infrastructure of the largest underground gas storage facility is an absolutely symmetrical Russian response to Ukrainian attacks on refineries. Just like the attack on the DneproGES. And no, this will not stop Ukraine, just as attacks on oil refineries do not stop Russia. Ukraine and the West imposed a war of attrition on Russia, and Russia accepted this challenge.

I would especially like to note the pinpoint accuracy of the strike on the Dnieper Hydroelectric Power Station. The dam did not suffer any damage, but it will take about a year of restoration work to restore generation to at least 50% of its capacity. Ukraine has become an energy-deficient country and, instead of exporting energy, is now forced to import it.

You make a good point for Russia. Russia has stockpiles, and it is getting more from its allies.

Ukraine doesn't have any stockpiles. It is completely dependent on the US and Nato.... both of which are extremely limited in their stockpiles, having wasted them uselessly on Ukraine.

But the clincher is that when Trump gets in, there won't be any more supplies for Ukraine, period. To see why Trump will win... https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63862655.

Well, I do not see how this may stop Ukraine. Ruzzia absolutely needs the oil exports not only to use the troops, nor only to be able to pay for the war, but to actually keep the basic social functions of a government and avoid a social collapse. It is highly dependent on the oil export to a ridiculous point.

https://oec.world/en/profile/country/rus

Ruzzia's crude oil and other hydrocarbon exports is around 250 Billions. This is more than half of the total of Ruzzian exports and pretty much the only way to keep the war running. Ukrainian gas exports are not even in their top 5. The gas storage facilities that Europe uses, other than Ukraine, are definitely not in Ukraine.

So, yes Ruzzia can destroy valuable infrastructure and cause lots of problems sure, but the only way of seriously damaging Ukraine would be to close the Odessa port. On that, they have failed over and over.

If I were you, I would be trying to get used to many more hits in refineries and the progressive disappearance of the Ruzzian fleet in the Black Sea, because I do not think that is going to stop unless the US decides to send aid in the amount required to end the war - My guess is that they first want to make sure Ruzzia wastes all the Soviet era stocks.

I cannot blame the US them, it is a good tactic: Europe's economy is damaged, Ruzzia uses up their stocks of missiles and the huge piles of armoured vehicles from the Soviet era and even asks for more weapons from all the enemies of the US. Why do you think they are allowing the war to go on? You do not need to be a genius.

Puppets at the helm don't care, and their masters cheer for destruction of Ukraine and Russia both

I hope that after the recent loss of the DneproGES and Europe’s largest underground gas storage facility, Ukraine will begin to more soberly assess its capabilities in causing economic damage to Russia by attacking refineries. If 15,000 Western sanctions didn't work, why should drone attacks work?

So Security at the Crocus City Hall usually carry Guns, except on the day they need them.
The world is a stage.

The US is using Ukraine to push Russia towards a nuclear war. But they know Russia will never react like that except as a last resort. Russia holding off on the nukes is giving her time to prove that it is the US and Ukraine who are the aggressors... since Ukraine started it all in 2014 and earlier,


Deadly Moscow terror attack was clearly carried out with the help of Ukraine and the CIA

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https://www.naturalnews.com/2024-03-24-deadly-moscow-terror-attack-carried-out-ukraine-and-cia.html
In a horrific incident that has left the nation in shock, a large concert venue near Moscow became the scene of a mass shooting late Friday. The Crocus City Hall attack resulted in over 100 people dead, including children, and is one of the worst terrorist attacks in Russia's modern history. According to the latest estimates, at least 133 people were killed and scores injured in the deadly shooting and subsequent fire sparked by a group of gunmen who stormed the Crocus City Hall, a large music venue just outside of the Russian capital. Details are still emerging, but according to Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB), the attack was carefully planned and designed to maximize casualties. An investigation into the incident is underway.

Perpetrators detained: Eleven people, including four terrorists who were directly involved in the deadly shooting, have been detained, the FSB said in a statement on Saturday. According to the security service, the weapons used in the shooting were organized in a cache in advance. Russia’s Investigative Committee also confirmed that four suspects who “committed the terrorist attack” on Crocus City Hall were detained in Bryansk Region, “not far from the border with Ukraine.” According to the authorities, the terrorists planned to flee to Ukraine.

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Putin's address to the nation: Russian President Vladimir Putin addressed the nation following the terrorist attack at the Crocus City Hall. He expressed his condolences to the victims and families affected by the shooting, and said that everyone responsible for the tragedy will be punished. All the attackers involved have been arrested and the security forces are doing everything possible to protect Russian citizens against further mass murder, the president added. The main thing now is to prevent those who are behind this bloodbath from committing another crime, he said in the address on Saturday.

Terrorist attack suspect interrogated: On Saturday, RT Editor-in-Chief Margarita Simonyan posted footage of the interrogation of one of the suspects. The man in the video claims that he went on the killing spree after he was promised 500,000 rubles ($5,400). The suspect also claimed that his handlers had instructed him as to where the attack should take place. He said he was ordered to “kill people there… doesn’t matter who.” The suspect claimed that the terrorist act was organized on Telegram with an unknown person who provided weapons.

During the attack, eyewitnesses reported that the gunmen opened fire at point-blank range on anyone who came within view. The attackers then set the building ablaze, causing a massive fire that quickly engulfed much of the seven-story structure, including the roof. Multiple fire brigades and aircraft were deployed to extinguish the flames, but around 13,000 square meters of the building were destroyed in the inferno.

Governments from across the world have expressed their condolences and support for the Russian people following the massacre. International organizations, as well as EU and NATO officials, have condemned the terrorist attack. Hundreds of mourners placed flowers at Moscow's diplomatic missions in various countries, including Mexico, Moldova, Serbia, Canada, the US, and Argentina. Meanwhile, dozens of Muscovites have been lining up at the city's hospitals to donate blood to the victims of the deadly shooting.

Earlier this month, the US issued a warning to its citizens in Russia, urging them to avoid public places and mass gatherings due to "extremists" having imminent plans for an attack in Moscow. Several other embassies followed suit, issuing similar alerts. However, White House adviser John Kirby has said Washington had no specific "advance knowledge" of Friday's shooting.

More links to Ukraine

The investigation into the horrific attack at a Concert Hall in the Moscow region has identified one of the attackers as Rustam Azhiyev, a former Ukrainian soldier who served in 2022. The White Renault automobile seen on dashcam footage outside the concert hall, with men exiting carrying rifles, was captured hours after the attack near Bryansk, Russia. The men inside, who had fled to nearby woods, were identified as citizens of Tajikistan.

The rapid development of this investigation has raised questions about why the suspects were traveling toward Ukraine when they are allegedly from Tajikistan and why one of the suspects has ties to the Ukrainian armed forces. As the world mourns the tragic loss of life in this senseless act of violence, it remains to be seen what further information will emerge from the ongoing investigation.

Huge emotional impact among the Russian people
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Oh, I can see that we now got two people posting smiles when people get killed in Ukraine. This is all your concern for peace and people not dying - you are a cynic and a psychopath (apart from that, your are a dumBAss)

And once again you get it wrong. There is no "retaliation", firstly because Ukraine is not invading Ruzzia, it is the opposite and if you choose to ignore that, Ruzzia has done the same several times without any other reason than causing problems to Ukrainians. There is no that much of an effect on the war, it does have an effect in the long term need to rebuild Ukraine.

Oh, before I forget, these strikes are not "revenge" or a decision taken in a day because, even for technical reasons it takes at minimum a month of planning to just program the missiles, get the ships / airframes / launchers in place ... no to mention gather enough missiles.

But this does not nothing but cause some problems, will not change the war. What could have a real effect is Ukraine being able to hit frequently the oil depots and refineries all over western Ruzzia - much better targets, much more expensive, much more difficult to repair and absolutely vital for the financing of the war.

BTW, it seems that Ukraine did get angry after all - there just seems to be a missile strike in Sebastopol.