Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 6. (Read 77935 times)

This is the type of leaders the collective West likes the most:

https://www.unian.ua/politics/poroshenko-zaroblyaye-na-donatah-ukrajinciv-dvichi-kupuye-obligaciji-ta-prokruchuye-cherez-sviy-bank-zmi-12856380.html

Of course, sometime in the future there will be sudden revelation about this in the west, too, and they will
froze (I mean, steal) his money (actually Ukrainian people money) never to return it

A natural result of aggression, why are they offended and angry? Cause-and-effect relationships must be understood.

Well, it's good that somebody draws a correlation like this. Thank you for understanding and agreeing  with it.

Only you can draw such correlation. Ukraine charged him for mass use of banned chemical weapons, he was responsible for it.
https://youtu.be/t1XFcONNcng?si=E3o8O3uD9CiSAN2o
That was powerful explosion. Lesson to Russian generals - don't get close to electroc scooters.

Lol, the economist...right there with Forbes and Bloomberg, mere CIA propaganda asset.

Anyway, you conventionally skipped my previous post, so i did calculation for you:

36 tonnes at Mach 10 brings about 50 tons of TNT effect...not nearly as strong
as Hiroshima or Nagasaki nuke, but I still would not like to be where it drops.
How about you?

I mean, you're jerking off about 300 grams of TNT that killed Kirilov and prevented/postponed for a while
his Ukraine biolabs investigation, and this is 50 TONNES!

Nope, what that general did was to allow and promote the use of chenical weapons in Ukraine. The thing about psychopats  like this one is that they do not care about others and cannot feel empathy, so they are very prone to join institutions like the Ruzzian army which offers the perfect ground to do whatever their wildest sadistic imagination can create.

However, they also understand perfectly well a threat against themselves - they are sadic, but do not like it when it comes their way. I am sure many other psychos in the Ruzzian army get the message perfectly well now: If you try terror and crimes against humanity, forget the international court, judgement happens here and now, at your door step.



And BTW, there is not deadline on when sentence will be passed.

This is the best article on the topic, but it is behind a paywall https://www.economist.com/europe/2023/09/05/inside-ukraines-assassination-programme

He deservedly died as an occupier, he should have done better.

Are you saying that there was truth in what he was saying and investigating?

I mean, if it was just foolish babbling, it would be better to let him alive, wouldn't it?

Remember Russian general who was talking about combat mosquitos and American laboratories in Ukraine? Well, he was exploded tonight in Moscow:
https://mil.in.ua/en/news/explosion-in-moscow-kills-russian-general-linked-to-chemical-attacks/
Not for the first time in this war I'm amazed how long hands of Ukrainian SBU is, it reminds me Mossad. If you're somehow related with war, even being so far away from front line you can't feel safe.

UK used to have lots of great physicists, but sadly it seems they don't teach physics in school anymore.
But in case there is some old teacher left nearby, go ask him to calculate energy of 36 tonnes
arriving at you at Mach 10

If the regime cannot be removed from inside Russia, then Ukraine and the West will help, I think so.

That is ballpark correct. You should be asking yourself how a "mosquito", not even that, but rather a recreational plane has gone all the way to an Ahmad camp hundreds of miles and f*ed. It is a simple solution but it is enough because Ruzzia simply does not have enough equipment to cover all the critical targets.

So, you rebranded missile "Orezznik" will make either a doomsday nuclear strike, followed by retalation, or a few random holes in the ground. The cheap, humble propeller plane with some home-made chunk of high explosive with put out of commission a multi-billion oil facility.

I really hope that your handlers and the generals go for the "orezznik". It simply would take a radical mentality swing to change the way the Ruzzian army thinks, too much for the old psichopaths on top.

History is showing that it was the US following the years after the dissolution of the USSR, who broke agreements and is causing the war in Ukraine.


The Long Train of Abuses that Culminated in the Ukraine War

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https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/the-long-train-of-abuses-that-culminated-in-the-ukraine-war/
But within that sphere, Horton is a fox, weaving an encyclopedic knowledge of various conflicts into an elaborate and convincing tapestry that indicts elites, intellectuals, the military-industrial complex, and—with characteristic vitriol—neoconservatives in pushing the US toward unnecessary wars.

Provoked: How Washington Started the New Cold War with Russia and the Catastrophe in Ukraine, fits this mold to a tee—not because Horton contorts facts to a preconceived narrative. Rather, because it is often the same people pushing conflict after conflict who, unsurprisingly, resort to the same, well-worn playbook. Horton's tome is riveting, from beginning to end. Here, I will focus on the early post-Cold War years, since this part of the story is oft-neglected in contemporary debates about the origins of the Ukraine war.

With the closing of the Cold War, and the USSR dissolving, the U.S. faced a crisis of success: what use is the NATO military alliance without the Soviet enemy to align against? More broadly, what grand strategy should the US adopt now that containing communism was obsolete? For neoconservatives, whose answer post-Cold War was benevolent global hegemony, the solution was to adapt NATO. NATO must gradually absorb more European nations, while leaving Russia out in the cold—contained and encircled, in an even worse position than during the Cold War. NATO must expand its mission to keep European peace and expand Western democracy, or wither on the vine.

From George H.W. Bush to today, the record meticulously compiled by Horton demonstrates that U.S. and other Western leaders communicated to Russia leaders and officials that NATO would not expand east—and could even allow for Russian membership in NATO. Various efforts like the Partnership for Peace and the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe were promoted to foster this impression that Russia would be included in European affairs, alliances, and institutions, rather than these structures aligning against them. All the while, these same US and Western leaders took virtually the opposite positions internally, with the result that the US willfully misled the Russians. The exact internal and external postures waxed and waned over the years, but this ultimate pattern held firm. This was even though, all along, Russian officials warned about how they and the Russian people would react to NATO advancing east. What we see is, in terms with which Americans are well-familiar, "a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object."
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The US, and particularly the Biden Administration, is pushing Russia into what might be WW3. If Putin somehow can hold off on the retaliation long enough for Trump to get in, things might change enough to save us all.


Putin: West Pushing Russia BEYOND 'Red Line'

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https://www.infowars.com/posts/putin-west-pushing-russia-beyond-red-line
"The tactic is very simple: they push us to 'a red line', from which we can not retreat, we start to respond and then they immediately scare their population – in the old days it was with the Soviet threat and now it's with the Russian threat," Putin said Monday, according to the Huffington Post.

The Russian President also discussed plans by the U.S. to deploy more advanced missile systems near Russian borders, also stating that some of this deployment is already underway.

"The U.S. activity to create and prepare for the deployment of ground-based high-accuracy strike weapons with a range of up to 5,500 kilometers in forward zones is worrisome," Putin said Monday according to TASS (the Russian News Agency).

"The essence of what the U.S. is trying to do with regard to Russia is to push it to its red line and then scare the American people with claims of a Russian threat," TASS (the Russian News Agency) said Monday.

In a hubris-filled article by The Atlantic Council, Russia's red lines were mocked in flagrant disregard to the risk of world-ending nuclear conflict.

"One last positive point here: Politics is rich with irony, and the U.S. debate on Russian aggression in Ukraine is no exception. The reason for Biden's timidity was that Putin got into his head with his nuclear threats, even as Ukraine and the West moved past numerous Kremlin 'red lines' with no sight of a mushroom cloud on the horizon," The Atlantic Council said November 18.

Regardless of Western outlets and think tanks flirting with ending the world in a game of 'poke the bear', Russia claims it may be forced to respond.

The West has already stepped over previous Russian red lines without yet being nuked, such as invading Russia with Ukraine and allowing Ukraine to strike Russia with long-range missiles.

"The West's support for Ukraine is pushing Russia to the point where it cannot help but retaliate," RT said Monday, summarizing Putin's statements.

On November 19 Ukraine began launching U.S.-made long-range missiles deep into Russia under the approval and guidance of the lame-duck Joe Biden administration, a move that Russia now allows a nuclear retaliation to. These events followed a Russian warning to the West against such actions.
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Just for some perspective,  here's the specs on the 80 year old piston engine Mosquito from WW-II:

Max Speed:  668 km/h  (comp. 700km/h)
Range:          2100 km   (comp. 700km)
Bomb Load:  1800kg     (comp. 50kg)

True, the range goes down significantly with a full bomb load, but the numbers are so dominating that a pretty healthy adjustment could be made.

I'll go with the Oreshnik, thank you very much.

Seems that they don't have air defence in Grozny as they triedvto shoot down drone with a riffle.
Unfortunately, it seems that this plane/drone didn't hit important target and didn't made much damage.

If you're asking about most recent missile-drone Peklo, here you go:
https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and_tech/the_ukrainian_peklo_cruise_missile_or_missile_drone_what_can_be_inferred_from_photos_regarding_its_characteristics_and_capabilities-12772.html
According to public information, it's range is about 700km and speed is up to 700 km/h with warhead up to 50kg.
It's all cool, but main issue is mass production. Ukraine is capable to make quality drones and missiles, but they can't produce significant number of it.

Ukrainians created good missiles, of course, not without the help of the West, but still good ones. Are there any characteristics of them somewhere, or is it still a secret?

Here we go again. Will Ukraine never learn that they are going to be destroyed if they keep 'teasing' Russia like this? Will Russia in retaliation take Kiev out this time? Pretty soon it won't matter if this is a war between Ukraine and Russia, or if it's between the US and Russia. The US might want it to look like Russia is the bad guy. But it won't matte if Russia has to protect itself.


ONE MORE TIME: Ukraine strikes Russia again with U.S.-made ATACMS missiles, escalating tensions

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https://www.naturalnews.com/2024-12-15-ukraine-strikes-russia-with-atacms-missiles-again.html
    Ukraine used U.S.-supplied ATACMS long-range missiles to target a military airfield in Taganrog, Russia, on Dec. 11, escalating tensions between the two countries.

    The attack injured Russian servicemen and caused damage to administrative buildings, vehicles and an industrial site in the region, with several cars burned.

    Out of six missiles, two were intercepted and destroyed. Russia's electronic warfare capabilities disrupted the remaining four, causing them to miss the intended target, resulting in minor damage.

    The Russian Defense Ministry warned of a firm retaliation against the "Western long-range weapons" attack, stating that it will not go unanswered.

    The use of ATACMS missiles, capable of carrying nuclear payloads, has heightened international concern. Russia’s threats of nuclear retaliation have increased the risk of a broader conflict, emphasizing the need for diplomatic resolutions.

In a dramatic turn of events, Ukraine has once more launched a missile strike against Russian territory using United States-supplied ATACMS long-range systems.

The attack Wednesday, Dec. 11, targeted a military airfield in Taganrog, a southern Russian city, and further escalates tensions between the warring nations. According to the Russian Ministry of Defense (MOD), six ATACMS missiles were involved in the assault. While two of the missiles were intercepted and destroyed, the remaining four were reportedly disrupted by Russia's electronic warfare capabilities, causing them to deviate from their intended target.

Despite the apparent defense measures, the attack resulted in minor damage, with shrapnel from falling debris hitting two administrative buildings and several vehicles on the airfield. Acting Rostov Region Gov. Yury Slyusar provided additional details, confirming that the missiles also struck an industrial site in the region, where some 15 cars in the parking lot were burned.

The incident has sparked heated reactions both in Russia and internationally, as the U.S. and Ukraine move closer to the brink of a more severe conflict. Photographs released in the aftermath of the attack show damaged buildings and scattered debris, adding a stark visual testimony to the volatile nature of the ongoing conflict. Although the scale of casualties remains unclear, it was reported that Russian servicemen sustained injuries, underscoring the human cost of the exchange.

Russian Defense Ministry vows firm retaliation
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That figure is completely made up, but jsut for the laughs... I would be very interested in knowing how an 18 Million missile that cannot, I repeat, cannot carry conventional explosives and has an accuracy of +/= 500 meters is going to help Ruzzia in any possible way. I just hope that the Ruzzian military geniuses follow your same "strategy".

You know what seems to be working correctly? The newly designed Ukrainian medium range missiles and missile / drone hybrids:



Ukraine will soon have no need for US approval to hit anything within 1000 km of the front.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdtZ8My341c



Ruzzia is minus one refinery in the last two days.... call Uzbekistan, they may have some spare for you.



Rumours are correct on the NK behing subject to meatwaving by the Ruzzians. More meat for the Empire.

Despite Ruzzia sluggishly gaining meter by meter of land, there are also some rumours pointing to Ukraine opening anothe line of advance, I am not privvy to where.



But you have made the claim, not Ukraine, go now and tell us. Let me help you: the renamed for marketing purposes missile used can use: a) nothing, b) decoys c) nuclear warheads. It did not carry nothing nor nuclear warheads. This below is a decoy, and has NO explosive whatsoever.



Now Branko, please, damage assessment of a chunk of metal falling randomly on a city.


Yes trust that *wink wink*. BTW again the Trident is an american missile... as old and reliable as rain and taxes.

It's cool that Grozny was bombed today, I'm very glad that Kadyrov is angry

Dennis Kucinich, Scott Ritter and Medea Benjamin met with citizens in Washington to discuss how they can get Congress to put a roadblock in the path towards nuclear annihilation.

The former Congressman, former chief U.N. weapons inspector and Code Pink leader spoke to an audience at the Tabard Inn in Washington on Saturday evening following an event at the National Press Club that was intended to get citizens to put pressure on Congress to back a resolution that would stop the U.S. transfer of long-range U.S. ATACM missiles to Ukraine.


WATCH: How to Stop a Nuclear War

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?persist_app=1&app=m&v=vvt1PFfz0Ec&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fconsortiumnews.com%2F&source_ve_path=OTY3MTQ
The U.S. is using the territory of Ukraine to fire these missiles deep into Russia territory. Moscow says that amounts to a direct U.S. strike on Russia, putting the two countries at war. The Kremlin warned that further U.S. escalation could lead to nuclear confrontation.
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