Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 8. (Read 77935 times)

And all the while you talk stuff that could go either way, Russia advances over Ukraine. Ukraine would be smart to join Russia since many of their ideals are the same. Then the war would be over.

I am sure SOME texans and multinationals will be making the money, not "Texans" in general, but we will ALL pay for the climate change events. BTW US gas and oil is mostly fracking - not precisely the cheapest type. Please, put tariffs on oil

https://eu.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2022/06/25/fact-check-domestic-oil-more-affordable-than-imported-oil-gas-prices/7723568001/#:~:text=In%20Rystad's%202020%20analysis%2C%20at,cost%20is%20%2444%20a%20barrel.




But that is irrelevant. Ruzzia goes to war when the price of oil is high. It is an oil and gas exporting country - more of a Petro-state - and finances go very well when oil is up. Just check their few last wars plotted agains the price of oil. As of right now.... and  perhaps thanks to US choosing Trump...


https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/crude-oil

67 at today's rate...  near the 3 year low. I am sure Ruzzia will be very grateful  

That's why you should live in Texas... where your gas is cheaper.

Note that if Trump frees up the regs for finding and developing crude, Texans will be making a lot of big money off crude, no matter the price. And the tariffs will shut down any sales to the US from either Russia or Ukraine.

Everybody considers the Venezuela crude. But people forget about the free 'Co-operative Republic of Guyana' which is right next to Venezuela, and has almost as much crude as Venezuela. Being a real free republic, the US can take any advantage of their oil as necessary. We don't even need Venezuelan or Russian or Ukrainian or Middle East oil.

More precisely, the moment crude oil goes over 90.

Never in this war.      

When will Ukraine demolish the Crimean bridge, what do you think?

Yep. You are right. Surrender would have been an option in the first couple months of the war. But it isn't any longer. Ukraine is already destroyed. So, why surrender the little that is left? Rather, go all the way and let Russia have her... through conquering her, a thing they would never have done if Ukraine had surrendered before April, 2022.

Is Russia able to conquer Ukraine?  The Oreshnik missile dropped on Dnipro shows that it was never really a question. Russia could have used ICBM's and done it at any time. They are talking about using Oreshnik on Kiev right now. They really should do it before loads of more people are killed in this silly war. But they don't, because they are still hoping Ukraine will use its last vestiges of intelligence to surrender.

Stupid Zelensky. Or, was killing off the people of Ukraine really his goal in the first place? Remember, he is not Ukrainian... except by adoption a few short years ago. Before that, he barely knew the language.

If you want to see what this war is really about, watch the video DR Lee Merritt and Dr Bryan Ardis - https://www.bitchute.com/video/KDeYswPUyRVc. It's not what you think. The last quarter of the video is particularly eyeopening.

Meanwhile... Trump Has Officially Defunded The Ukraine War By Pressuring Mike Johnson To Block Deep State Sending An Additional $24 Billion To Zelensky - https://banned.video/watch?id=6751f1e41f72c345f8ae7be3

Surrender isn't an option. If you think that capitualtion of Ukraine will bring peace, you're very naive. Yeah, maybe for few years there will be peace. But most likely that it will be only matter of time until Russia will decide to take another part of Ukraine (or maybe whole) as they know that nobody will stop them.
At this moment it looks that most likely that war will end with some kind of peace negotiations. But at this moment nothing will not change until January when Trump will take his cabinet in White House.

To go out of this situation is simple. It is basically for the Ukraine government to surrender and sheath their swords and allow peace to reign. The Zelensky led government is an agent of the US and are there to understand too. . I know it is achievable for the coubtbut difficult for the Ukrainian government because of the politics around this country. The coming of NATO to the Ukrainian government was the major issue affecting the citizens.

Ideas from people that know more than you? Well, that would be 90% of the world.

The problem is that by not knowing, you are also giving credit to the wrong people. You are giving credit to people who are saying that Ukraine attacked Ruzzia or that the Ruzzian economy is not going down the drain due the price of oil plummeting to 70 $/barrel and the OPEC desperately facing a loss of power now that the US is a massive producer.

Nobody is censoring your content, and believe me, you are one of the people here who deserve it the most. Not because of the ideas which are mostly half-baked, or for whatever you say, but for the perpetual promotional use of the forum by walltexting and interfereing with normal discussions.

What is interesting about the things you say is, they are based on ideas that I am saying something on my own. I continually show things to you that back up what I say, because the things that I say come form other people who know way more than I do.

Mostly, what you say seems to be talk that wants to censor content, my content... just like the big news outlets. Rather than admit that there is truth in what others say, you would cover it up if it isn't what you like. Standard actions of somebody who is failing in his ideals.

So, it's okay that you keep blabbing like you do. You are supporting what I say that way, and reducing your own credibility (Do you even have any credibility left?).

Btw, I do know that nukes are being controlled by aliens, so that war will never go beyond just a certain point. Did you know that? It's been in the news here and there.

The Russians want to get this war over.


2,000 North Korean Troops Led by 3 Generals Join Russians Against Ukraine - Intel

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https://www.kyivpost.com/post/43184?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=KyivPost/magazine/Kyiv+Post+Latest+News
Two thousand North Korean soldiers have joined Russian units, being deployed with a Marine Brigade and an Airborne Division to actively engage in combat, with another 9,000 more in reserve.

Andriy Chernyak, a representative of Ukraine's Defense Intelligence (HUR), told Radio Svoboda that while these forces are likely not on the front lines, they still contribute to the aggression against Ukraine, assisting in the killing of Ukrainian soldiers.

"Perhaps they are not on the front line. Perhaps they are not on the advanced positions, but they still contribute to the aggression against Ukraine and the killing of Ukrainian service members," Chernyak said.
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BA, it is perfectly OK not to know, that is not entirely your fault - particularly if you are a victim of the Texas educational system as it might be the case.

What is up to you and completely wrong is to come here pretending to enlighten others when you do not know even the very basics of the origing of Ukraine, why they gave away the nukes they had after the collapse of the USSR and how this affects the current situation and any possible future agreement. Once you understand that, come back to the thread, apologise for your previous ineptitude and egocentrism and have some degree of productive dialogue if you still want to.

The issue is that any future deal will not be based on mutual trust and cooperation. It is evident that international treaties with Ruzzia do not work - it is a question of mindset really, Ruzzia believes that only the other part has to follow through and it has to be under Ruzzia's interpretation without any question and usually under threat.

Things are very bad for Ukraine, let's admit how things really are. How to get out of the situation?

You finally figured out that people don't know everything individually. But there is much better strength when there are a bunch of people telling their side of the story. Or did you know that already?

Again, it is the US that is trying to get a good paycheck out of Russia. And it's the US that has been doing all the kinds of things, on a far greater scale than Russia, that you are talking about.

Watch the video of the collapse of Ukraine at the site.


Visualizing Ukraine's Collapsing Front Lines Amid The Steady Russian Onslaught

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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/visualizing-ukraines-collapsing-front-lines-amid-steady-russian-onslaught
As we detailed earlier, the White House is currently overseeing a 'massive surge' in arms to Ukraine with just 50 days left before President-elect Trump enters office. The US is also this week announcing $725 million in more aid, which is the latest defense package for Ukraine drawn directly from US inventories.

It will include a second shipment of antipersonnel mines, and comes the same day that Germany also unveiled another $680 million in Ukraine aid. The Western allies have asserted that they want to see Zelensky and Ukraine forces in as favorable a position as possible before negotiations to end the war inevitably proceed (something which Trump has repeatedly promised from day one of his second administration). But the prime question remains: what good will the rapid infusion of more weapons do when the real problem is Ukraine's collapsing manpower? To illustrate the reality of Russia's rapid advance of the past several months...

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🇷🇺 The Liberation of Donbass.

This map clearly illustrates the rapid advancements of the Russian Armed Forces this fall, as cities and villages in the DPR are being liberated one after another.

Above all, it’s simply remarkable. Show more
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BA, that is one of the many things you don't know and one of the many reasons why you should listen to people who do instead of giving lessons, headless chicken.

Nobody wants a repetiton of Budapest more than Ruzzia, and it is not to remain calm and peaceful in the nearby future. You say you are pro-peace, but all you speak of is making sure that Ruzzia gets a good pay-day for their military invasion.

I don't know what Russia did and didn't do regarding the things you say, but there is one important thing in all this. It's their part of the world. Get the US policeman out of it. Why? Because the US is just as bad or worse with its thieving banking system that is trying to take over the whole world.



EDIT: Besides, when you turn my post into 'butt farts butt farts', you invoke the carbon tax on yourself.

You are russian troll and pidor

Russia broke the Budapest memorandum. Russia intervened and orchestrated the Donbass separatist movement. Russia annexed Crimea. There is so much they did that only long-term peace possible is to completely defeat moscals at the battlefield.

Me interpret what you say? You can't even READ what I say. But others might see this and benefit from it.

Russia was simply putting down the war that Ukraine started in 2014. If Ukraine had gone easily way back at the beginning, there would have been no further need for a Russian movement.

Russia absolutely isn't invading. The Dnipro thing was simply an updated response to Ukraine's further incursions. If Russia were invading, this type of response would have been an attack long ago. Ukraine would be gone, and Nato would be facing the full fury of Russian armament.

I don't have to ask how dense you can be. You show it without my asking.

Are we having fun, yet?

dumBAss, do not try to "interpret" my words. You would need three times the brain you have and three lives to understand even a bit of my thought.

Ruzzia is not "fighting back", Ruzzia is invading Ukraine. Once Ruzzia leaves Ukraine, there is no more need to fight and Ruzzia can go back to cleptocracy and all that.

What is dangerous thinking is, again if you need it repeated 100 times, to give to Ruzzia whatever Putin wants "because they have nukes". Next comes Poland - "because they have nukes", the Lithuania "because they have nukes", then ... perhaps Alaska ... "because they have nukes".

I hope this is simple enough for your microencefalic condition to understand.

That's dangerous thinking. We don't know for a fact that Russia won't do this or that. When you lie long enough to a country, like the US has lied to and broken treaties with Russia, no matter what the results might be, Russia has only two choices:
1. Fight back;
2. Die as a country.

Will they make the choice of a cornered rat and fight? Or will it be more like a mouse that is being played with by a cat and is eaten? Note that there are a lot of countries around the world that are on the side of Russia rather than the West.

However. Thank you for finally realizing that Ukraine has nothing left... that their total, future existence depends on others rather than themselves, that Zelensky has finally been shown to be a total blowhard.