Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 13. (Read 57640 times)

  Now the game is about who has more UAVs than the enemy. The war tactics have changed. I agree, there is no way Russia and Ukraine can make peace right now. The war will continue, and one side will lose many things.

It was done deal, until UK sent Boris Johnson


"First time" was long ago

Yes, but I would rather say Ruzzia negotiating with Ukraine for the first time, seriously, with demands that are actually achievable rather than an unconditional surrender. But anyway, that is not happening anytime soon. Putin is all right to burn through the Soviet reserves of vehicles, try to repairs the A-50 while getting dronned and launching "meatwaves" for a few hundred meters.

I am mentioning the A-50 because yesterday Ukraine managed to drone attack the factory where one was being repaired. Is like if they knew it was there ... you know.

I don't think he said a white flag means losing or something like that. He means Ukraine should try negotiating again with Russia to find a peaceful resolution. 

They did not say who has to raise the white flag. Everyone seems to have interpreted that this is about negotiating the terms to what would optically be an Ukrainian non-decisive defeat, but I think that the if we speak about not reaching the objectives and sending humans to die for nearly no gain it depicts more about getting Putin to understand that his goals may not be achievable.

So... whose white flag?

It's possible that another A-50 plane was hit. Few days Ukrainian drone attacked plane repair facility in Taganrog. And now fresh satellite images were published which shows that there was some damage made to building. And it's possible that one of A-50 planes was inside. From images made week ago it was visible that plane is standing outside. In fresh images it's absent here, so, either plane was moved to repair facility or just fly away from this area. Probably we will not get answers what really happened there:
https://twitter.com/Tatarigami_UA/status/1766611891818823885

Now there is excuses from Vatican because initial version of interview he talked about raising white flag. Anyway, this isn't something new, it's not first time when Pope says something contraversial about war.

I have a Ukrainian friend who is now a widow and her son is no longer the son of a widow because he has also been killed and the only person she hates as much as Putin is Zelensky. The oligarchs should send their husbands,wives and children to the front first to lead the charge.

Some sources point to the Pope encouraging peace talks. In my view, the Pope has to seek peace, that is his endowment. Note that he urged "parties" to negotiate, not Ukraine to surrender. Unfortunately the Ruzzian proposal is simply to get all they have as of today plus all Kherson, Zaporizilla,... As anyone may understand, that is not really a plan.

Courage to negotiate goes both ways, and it seems very far away to be honest.

https://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope/news/2024-03/pope-francis-swiss-tv-interview-gaza-ukraine-wars.html

The American DoD and many in the US government are ambitious psychotic narcissistic warmongers. They have caused the destruction of Ukraine, and are unwilling to stop the killing. Rather, many of them want further funding for Ukraine so that more Ukrainians are killed, and more Ukrainian property is destroyed.


"Putin Is A F***ing Thug": Sparks Fly During ZeroHedge Ukraine Debate

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https://www.zerohedge.com/political/putin-f-thug-sparks-fly-during-zerohedge-ukraine-debate
Members of Congress rarely want to debate — even rarer in person and for 2 hours — trust us… we've asked. Thus, we have tremendous respect for Senator Ron Johnson and fmr Congressman Joe Walsh - who had the balls to defend their beliefs without reciting rehearsed talking points for a 3-minute Fox/CNN hit.

They are a rare breed on Capitol Hill. Perhaps we can get to a world where they are the norm instead of the exception.

Until then, enjoy these highlights:

Senator Ron Johnson: Ukraine can't ask us for money when they've got no plan

"Enough of this fantasy. If you want any funding for Ukraine, tell me how you'll spend it to try to bring the war to an end."
They are a rare breed on Capitol Hill. Perhaps we can get to a world where they are the norm instead of the exception. Until then, enjoy these highlights: Senator Ron Johnson: Ukraine can't ask us for money when they've got no plan "Enough of this fantasy. If you want any funding for Ukraine, tell me how you'll spend it to try to bring the war to an end."

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Senator Ron Johnson: Ukraine can't ask us for money when they've got no plan

"Enough of this fantasy. If you want any funding for Ukraine, tell me how you'll spend it to try to bring the war to an end."
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I guess you would need to try to find out if "the real thing" works, just make sure you get it right, there is no second attempt.

Meanwhile seems that fronts are reasonably stabilised after the withdrawal from Avdiivka. Looks like there is a very limited exploit from Ruzzia despite many criticizing the lack of proper Ukrainian entrenchments and defence lines. I reckon a better work on that was needed.

Be glad that Putin is in there, because even drunk Dmitry Medvedev only has to hit the launch button once.

Russian propaganda and drunk Dimon Medvedev like to threaten about nuclear strikes on Washington, London or Berlin rather than Ukraine. But you're really optimistic about capabilities of Russia and that they're ready for this suicide move.
Now they threatens to hit bridges in Germany as revenge in case if Crimea bridge will be destroyed:
https://news.yahoo.com/news/russian-propagandist-lists-german-bridges-113827036.html
How pathetic...

So, UK fails at tests, but you're sure "real thing" will work?
Such twisted logic


That "allies" thing rarely work when you have to make real sacrifices...just look how France and UK jumped to help their Czechoslovakia and Poland "allies"
at start of WW2, or how USA betrayed their "allies" in Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam...

I think the UK is very capable when it comes to defending itself and its allies. Even if Russia was foolish enough to launch a nuclear strike on the UK it would face instant destruction from its allies. Russia does not want this anymore than the UK do so that is why extremists need to be kept out of public office in every country.

Yes Branko, count on that - Britain not able to shoot. What could go wrong with that approach. It is a bit of old news, but there have been two "duds" when shooting test intercontinental ballistic missiles from UK subs. Keyword here "tests".

However the stormshadows seem to be performing perfectly well under real combat situation. You know, passing over the S-300 and reaching the black sea fleet?

Sure Turkiye is a good supplier, you should ask to thousands of Ruzzian soldiers about the Baryatkar. Well, you can't, they can no longer answer.
 

Now that UK navy proved its nuclear capabilities are non-existent, first Russian nuclear strike
will probably hit UK, not UKraine

https://youtu.be/0kvonrxGCps

UKraine is lucky that they have suppliers of more reliable weapons, like Turkey

Good thing, because this "patrol boat" was actually able to carry long range missiles. Most of the sailors were evacuated as this happened close to port, veery close to Kerch bridge (hint hint).

Also to note that the marine drones are said not to be relaying on the Starlink any longer - they have a workaround ECM measures so Ukraine can now strike at will. Some sources describe the destruction of a shipment of Kalibr missiles and the experiments around creating marine drones with either radar detection abilities or even anti-air capabilities.

There is also a confirmation of a refinery attacked successfully in Belgorod. It is one of many hits on fuel depots and refineries.

Ruzzia seems unable to generate new capabilities at the pace Ukraine is.

Meanwhile another Russian war ship turrned into submarine. Ukraine destroyed Sergey Kotov patrol ship. And again they used Magura V5 drones:
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1764912010448285868
https://youtu.be/ZdNxxCU9RJQ?si=dizee_0EdvyhR_XI
Ukraine continue effectively destroying of Black Sea fleet with relatively cheap drones (cheap comparing with long range missiles).
And there was first video record of Ukraine using AASM Hammer bombs. It's closest analogue to KAB that Ukraine have
https://www.armyrecognition.com/ukraine_-_russia_conflict_war_2022/ukraine_strikes_russian_targets_with_french_aasm-250_bombs_for_the_first_time.html?utm_content=cmp-true
Previously these bombs were only used on F-16, French Dassault and Indian Tejas.
Edit.
It was already used on Avdiivka Coke Plant few days ago. What I can say, it looks impressive:
https://mil.in.ua/en/news/french-made-aasm-bomb-strikes-russians-in-the-kherson-region/

It has been widely discussed that a fake was posted as bait by some Ruzzi Bloggers and some Ukrainian media echoed it to then having to back off. However, there is enough evidence of several of the hits, not just of jets, but of the much more expensive and much more difficult (impossible?) to replace A-50 (not 1, 2 of those)

Is more like 1 plane a day average and certainly not three planes total. If you look at the right sources, you will notice how there are less FABs being used and that is for a reason. Seems like Ukraine is preparing to have a degree of air advantage when the F-16s arrive in summer.

But anyway, you choice to not believe it, it does not matter for the pilots - they know - and not believing it does not make the planes come back from nothingness.

edited to add: dumBAss, if ruzzia wants to destroy its air force at this pace it is absolutely fine. In fact that may convince a few more Republicans that supporting Ukraine is good value. And the same is happening with artillery, they have until 2026 at this pace... then they are at zero.

So what does Russia gain if they can keep up their intensive air campaign for another year?Ruining their economy which they already done in the most possible successful way as the average Russian now is worthless in any place as soon as you pass the Russian border meaning they made the Russians look like dogs which no one likes and this is not something to be proud whatever the war outcome can be in the end (it is not coming to an end soon anyway).Secondly by killing like 4-5 people daily,innocent people and in some days like 20-30 in the terrorist attacks against civilians won't make Russia win anything anyway so I really am missing out on what is Russia really gaining out from this war so far?