Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 9. (Read 73192 times)

You don't want to look at the proof. Why should anybody provide it? You only report on the evidence that you want to see. You know how to do all the research in the world... if you were really interested.

Why in the world are you so in favor of Ukraine? Got your wife or girlfriend from there? Or getting paid as a lobbyist-like joker?

And I still waiting for you to provide any proof of what you say. You do not have numbers -mostly because there are no public numbers on Kursk, so whatever you say is just wishful thinking.

However the fact that there were numerous Ruzzian conscripts exchanged for Ukrainian POW thanks to the operation is clear. The fact that sections of the front in Belgorod became inactive and some attacks in the East had to stop is there. All easy to check... meanwhile sure.. keep throwing names and ideology... useless.

I'm still waiting for Crimea to be 'liberated' by Zelenski and his Zionazi legion.  Wasn't that promised to have occurred by the start of 2024?  Or was it that 2023?  I forget.

Ukraine had some stuff developed by the Soviets when the USSR was around.  Looks like the actual knowledge and skill which was responsible for what the Soviets did achieve in their time mainly flowed mostly North to South.

Where you err is in the fact that Zelensky cancelled elections. This takes away freedom from the people. But Texas guns IS freedom for the people. You continue to show how backward and self-contradictory you are.

Keep it up. The more you talk, the more ignorant you show yourself to be.



Bad news for Kyiv: Elite Ukrainian troops SURRENDER to Russians in Kursk

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https://www.naturalnews.com/2024-10-18-elite-ukrainian-troops-surrender-in-kursk-region.html
Troops from Ukrainian elite units deployed to Russia's Kursk region have laid down their arms and surrendered, dealing a serious blow to Kyiv's war effort.

Maj. Gen. Apty Alaudinov, the commander of the Russian Akhmat Special Forces battalion, confirmed this in an Oct. 15 interview with journalist Vladimir Solovyov. The commander rejected claims by Ukraine that Russian soldiers executed nine Ukrainian service members in Kursk, many of whom were drone operators.

Alaudinov dismissed the claim as a psy-op, arguing that Kyiv "needs to create fake news to discourage its military from surrendering" as many Ukrainian service members "openly say they can fight no more." Despite these, the commander pointed out that enemy troops "often decide to surrender anyway."

"What's interesting is that the units that they considered to be the most unassailable and elite, they are also beginning to slowly lean toward surrendering as they want to stay alive," the Akhmat commander told Solovyov.

According to Alaudinov, Moscow is ready to spare even those who serve in the Aidar Battalion or Azov Brigade if they lay down their arms. The two brigades have been accused of having neo-Nazi sympathies. It is worth noting that "denazification" was one of Russia's goals for launching the "special military operation" in Ukraine in February 2022.

Several Western media outlets have reported that the Ukrainian Armed Forces (AFU) is struggling with exhaustion, low morale and desertion. Many of the reinforcements arriving at the front, who were pressed into service through Ukraine's draconian military draft, suffer from inadequate training. In turn, this only worsens the problems mentioned.

Ukraine launched a large-scale incursion into Kursk in early August, allocating some of its best troops for the offensive. While they initially made some progress, the Russian government said its forces managed to halt the Ukrainian advance and later pushed them back. According to the Russian Ministry of Defense, Ukraine has lost more than 23,000 troops since the start of the attack. (Related: Ukraine's offensive in Kursk region is the first direct attack on Russia since WWII.)

Russia appears to be winning the war
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Absolutely. As said Ukraine HAD nukes, enough to make it the third country with more Nukes in the world at that time. Not only that, they had very modern strategic bombers. And he is absolutely right, if Ukraine had chosen to keep the nukes they had, Ruzzia would have to think twice before attacking.

But let's be specific: Zelensky is not "threatening nukes", Zelensky is saying that Ukraine needs to have a way of deterring aggression.

I know you cannot do this because you are a psychopath, but try for a moment to be Ukraine as nation:

- You have been invaded not once, but twice by an aggressive and bigger neighbour.
- Your neighbour has shown clear signs of wanting to continue this pattern.
- Nobody on the outside is helping you decissively.
- The only alliance that can protect you cannot accept you (or will not accept you) as a member.

You need to solve your problem and there is only one thing that may give you the right leverage.

But just to make it veeeeery easy for you, I am now going to write in Texan: "If you are threatened by people with guns, the Texan solution is to buy guns of your own".

BTW Ukraine is not threatening the US, whereas Ruzzia is creating a situation in which many countries are considering having nukes and increasing their arsenal.


It is actually 11.000 training in the east. However, this is just 8 to10 days of meat for the Ruzzian army. They need to feed between 1000 and 1400 souls to the great reaper just to keep the fronts active.


Just wait, I am sure there will be some other "gifts" very soon.

You're forgetting, Russia's invasion is illegal. Russia's hired solders (including their own) have no right to be in Ukraine.
Putin is spending hundreds of millions into their disinformation campaign, trying to make sure you forget it was illegal.
Don't every forget. Make him waste his money.

As for those North Korean solders, well, North Korea is the largest open air prison in the world. They will never be allowed back into the hermit kingdom. Never.
So their only chance of freedom now is to get to Ukraine. If they can get there alive, they will taste freedom for the first time in their life.

I would suspect that Russia and North Korea will used Kursk as a useful training exercise to work on integration of their forces...in anticipation of a future need.

The surprisingly stupid Kursk adventure turns out to be the gift that keeps on giving for the Russian side.  The idea that the invasion was a surprise to the Russians is absurd given their intel capabilities and the time took to consolidate Ziocon forces for the operation.  I again, as I did within the first days after Kursk, wonder aloud if Russia didn't actively foster the incursion knowing that it would be a giant gift (albeit at some cost in 'face', civilian discomfort, and property destruction.)  Maybe even the Zionazis and the Kremlin planned it together.  I would not rule that out.

Kursk is, of course, 100% 'old Russia' which simplifies things legally by a fair margin, though I expect that Russia could argue that by their laws, the five regions where the populations voted to join the Russian federation are also fair game for employing forces from allied nations.

Although not overtly, the soldiers of many NATO countries are participating in the war on behalf of Ukraine and receiving a lot of military equipment from them. About 1,500 North Korean fighters are already ready to fight against Ukraine on behalf of Russia. I think Russia should have that right.

The new threat is the soldiers of North Korea. Can NATO troops enter Ukraine now?

The friendship of the USA and the EU will always be, as will business.

And, so? Unfortunately, things that she said didn'tturned into reality. After 2014 events no serious sanctions on Russian oil and gas were imposed and EU continue to almost fully depend on Russian gas. C'mon, even in third year of full scale war EU continue to buy Russian gas.

"We have to make EU dependent on USA oil and move them out of oil deals with Russia"

Condoleeza Rice back in 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_f8WpmackU

True, there is one, just one single source, that claims that Ukraine could have nukes within weeks. This is highly unlikely, because a program of their own would require many resources and time and would not go undetected.

However, some people out there are arguing that Ukraine accepted to get rid of the nukes and the strategic bombers that it had after the collapse of the Soviet Union. There were some guarantees of peace and support given by the US. Since those guarantees are not happening, it may be time for Ukraine to ensure their independence by having the right deterrent.

More on Zelensky threatening nukes. If Ukraine isn't allowed to join Nato, Zelensky will build nukes that nobody but he controls.


NATO Membership Or Nuclear Weapons: Zelensky Stuns Allies With Demand

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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/zelensky-stuns-allies-demand-we-need-nato-membership-or-nuclear-weapons
He made the ultra provocative comments while speaking before the EU's European Council in Brussels, where he presented the victory plan before European lawmakers. That's when he referenced a recent private conversation with Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, saying he told Trump that his country needs "some kind of alliance" or be "forced to pursue nuclear weapons."

"In a conversation with Donald Trump I said – this is our situation: What way out do we have? Either Ukraine will have nuclear weapons, which for us will be a defense, or we'll need to have some sort of alliance, besides NATO. But today we know of no other alliance," Zelensky said.

"NATO countries today are not at war. NATO countries are not fighting. In NATO countries people are still alive. Thank God. That is why we choose NATO, not nuclear weapons. And Donald Trump heard me. He said you have a just argument," he continued.

At one point in these comments he referenced this historic Budapest Memorandum, a 1994 agreement where Ukraine agreed to give up its nuclear arsenal from Soviet times in exchange for security guarantees from Russia, the US, and UK.

He also emphasized in a rhetorical question, "Which nuclear states suffered? None except Ukraine… Who gave up their nuclear weapons? All of them? No. Only Ukraine… Who is fighting today? Ukraine."

Following the address, Zelensky appeared alongside NATO Secretary-General Mark Rutte and sought to downplay the nuclear remarks, saying, "We never spoke about … that we are preparing to create nuclear weapons or something like this."

Russian media also picked up on this moment:

Zelensky himself walked back his earlier comments at a later joint news conference in Brussels with NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte, saying: "I said I have no alternative except NATO. That was my signal. But we are not building nuclear weapons."

Meanwhile former Russian president and current deputy chairman of the Security Council Dmitry Medvedev has claimed that Ukraine is working on a dirty bomb. He said the Zelensky government "has everything necessary for that: resources, technology and specialists."
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The other side of the story is, Zelensky is a super salesman. One of the traits of a salesman is to instill fear (often fear of loss) in those people they are trying to sell. Can Zelensky really build nukes? Was his part of the Ukraine war really a sales pitch that got others to join with him because of fear of loss?


Trump Criticizes Zelensky for Helping Start the War in Ukraine, as ‘The Greatest Salesman on Earth’ Now Demands ‘either NATO Membership or Nuclear Weapons’

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/trump-criticizes-zelensky-helping-start-war-ukraine-as/
In a context where thousands of American citizens are struggling in the aftermath of the Helene and Milton hurricanes, it's outrageous that feeble Joe Biden is still dishing out hundreds of millions of dollars to the 'world's greatest salesman', Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zlensky, to bankroll a war effort in a conflict that he has no chance of winning.

Of course, America first leader and Republican Presidential candidate Donald J. Trump has been very critical of this situation, and as election day approaches, he has been stepping up his criticism of Zelensky.

This week, while presenting his 'victory plan' to his countrymen, Zelensky went over board and demanded that 'either Ukraine joins NATO or gets nuclear weapons', in what many understood as some kind of ultimatum to Trump.

As we know, that'll never fly with Trump, who may have felt free to step up his criticism of the embattled Ukrainian leader.

So yesterday (17), Trump for the first time lay the blame on Zelenskiy for helping start that nation's war with Russia.

This was widely seen as yet another evidence that Trump will shift the present ruinous U.S. policy toward Ukraine when he wins the Nov. 5 election.

Reuters reported:

"The Republican former president has frequently criticized Zelenskiy on the campaign trail, repeatedly calling him "the greatest salesman on Earth" for having solicited and received billions of dollars of U.S. military aid since the war broke out in 2022.

Trump has also slammed the Ukrainian leader for failing to seek peace with Moscow, and he has suggested Ukraine may have to cede some of its land to Russia to make a peace deal, a concession Kiev considers unacceptable."

Trump's comments on a podcast with Patrick Bet-David 'went a step further' than his previous criticism.

Zelensky would be to blame not just for failing to end the war, Trump said, but also for helping start it.
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This sums it up nicely:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/D2VB2Nbia3BR

Looks like Ukraine is going to other sources for nukes, or they are making their own. Is something like this anything that people want? Does anybody think that Zelensky has enough sense to keep from using them if he makes them?

Note that Zelensky says that he needs an order to start producing nukes. Who is controlling Zelensky that he has to receive orders to do something that is outside of the realm of US or Nato control?


German News Publication Claims Ukraine Could Have Nuclear Weapons WITHIN WEEKS — Report

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https://www.infowars.com/posts/german-news-publication-claims-ukraine-could-have-nuclear-weapons-within-weeks-report
"We have the material, we have the knowledge. If there is an order, we will only need a few weeks until the first bomb," a high-ranking Ukrainian official specializing in arms procurement allegedly said according to Bild.

Zelensky also expressed nuclear desires.


“Either Ukraine will have nuclear weapons, and then they will be our defense. Or we have to enter into a kind of alliance. Apart from NATO, we do not know any effective alliances today,” Zelensky allegedly said while in a conversation with Donald Trump a few weeks ago, according to Bild and translated from German into English.

According to RT, Zelensky claimed that Trump agreed with him on the Ukrainian nuclear desire, although no evidence exists to indicate Trump actually agreed with it, as Trump only spoke of ending the war to avoid nuclear war, a contradiction to Zelensky’s claim.
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Which boiler? There are no boilers there

Either Zelensky's plan will be followed, or Ukraine will lose sooner or later.

Head to the arms manufacturing companies to make more weapons. Then more and more and more as Russia attacks the US and Nato.






What we are witnessing is that they are cooking the meatwave meat before sending it to market. Judging by all the armored vehicles that are burning, some of the meat is being canned.






Lindsey Graham To Ukraine: 'Draft Younger Men!'

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBHsAlKJss0
As Ukraine continues to be destroyed in the US proxy war with Russia, some Ukrainian lawmakers are reporting that US politicians, including Sen. Lindsey Graham, are furiously pressuring Kiev to draft younger and younger men to the front lines. They are fighting Russia down to the last Ukrainian. Also today: Netanyahu's Likud Party is promoting post-war settlements in Gaza as US troops arrive to fight in Israel's wars with its neighbors. Finally: Who would send a mother to prison for 3.5 years for peacefully protesting outside an abortion clinic? Biden/Harris!
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I guess I will have to take your word for it and ignore the videos I have seen and the reports from even the pro-Ruzzian vloggers...

So, Ruzzia is recruiting volunteers and then making sure they get they get training, equipment and the right gear and then they are used in the most effective manner...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/07/he-had-no-idea-he-was-being-sent-to-a-war-zone-the-indian-and-nepalese-men-on-frontlines-in-ukraine


So.. all lies and mis-information? Just in case, I guess I would advise people from Nepal to avoid going to Ruzzia. There is only one "work" for them in there. Their government seems to agree..

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/10/asia/nepal-fighters-russia-ukraine-families-intl-cmd/index.html