Really? Want to bet that its just show and Prigozhin will back off soon?
I bet that that is just a show but why was that necessary? At some point it damaged Putin's reputation and Prigozhin looks like a pussy too. What was the point 
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Really? Want to bet that its just show and Prigozhin will back off soon?
Too late, Putin already caved in, in his usual chickenshit manner with help from the potato fuhrer.
Quote from: https://president.gov.by/en/events/soobshchenie-press-sluzhby-prezidenta-respubliki-belarus-1687631215
Yevgeny Prigozhin accepted Aleksandr Lukashenko’s proposal on stopping the advance of Wagner’s armed units in Russia’s territory and on further steps meant to deescalate tensions.
At present an absolutely advantageous and acceptable variant to defuse the situation is available, including safety guarantees for fighters of the private military company Wagner.
At present an absolutely advantageous and acceptable variant to defuse the situation is available, including safety guarantees for fighters of the private military company Wagner.
Still remains to be seen if Prigozhin gets Shoigu's head in exchange.
Saw good joke about Russian army:
2021 - 2nd army in the world
2022 - 2nd army in Ukraine
2023 2nd army in Russia.
No, Russian army is actually 3rd army in Russia, the first one is Wagner, the 2nd one is Kadyrovites and Russian Army is the 3rd one.2021 - 2nd army in the world
2022 - 2nd army in Ukraine
2023 2nd army in Russia.
Really? Want to bet that its just show and Prigozhin will back off soon?
I bet that that is just a show but why was that necessary? At some point it damaged Putin's reputation and Prigozhin looks like a pussy too. What was the point Wagner already went through Lipetsk oblast, Tula oblast and some sources says that they already reached Moscow oblast, though, no comfirmation about it yet. What it looks strange that they are moving without any resistance. Where is glorious Russian army, why we don't see them? So far we mainly saw Rosgvardia who only can fight against peaceful protests, police and some KAMAZ trucks and tractors blocking roads.
Everything looks so strange that I can't believe that's really happening. One thought can't leave my mind that whole this thing can be staged, but why they would need it, I have no idea.
Saw good joke about Russian army:
2021 - 2nd army in the world
2022 - 2nd army in Ukraine
2023 2nd army in Russia.
Everything looks so strange that I can't believe that's really happening. One thought can't leave my mind that whole this thing can be staged, but why they would need it, I have no idea.
Saw good joke about Russian army:
2021 - 2nd army in the world
2022 - 2nd army in Ukraine
2023 2nd army in Russia.
Really? Want to bet that its just show and Prigozhin will back off soon?
They seem also to be on their way to Moscow.
Moscow in 3 days?
Wagner already went through Lipetsk oblast, Tula oblast and some sources says that they already reached Moscow oblast, though, no comfirmation about it yet. What it looks strange that they are moving without any resistance. Where is glorious Russian army, why we don't see them? So far we mainly saw Rosgvardia who only can fight against peaceful protests, police and some KAMAZ trucks and tractors blocking roads.
Everything looks so strange that I can't believe that's really happening. One thought can't leave my mind that whole this thing can be staged, but why they would need it, I have no idea.
Saw good joke about Russian army:
2021 - 2nd army in the world
2022 - 2nd army in Ukraine
2023 2nd army in Russia.
Everything looks so strange that I can't believe that's really happening. One thought can't leave my mind that whole this thing can be staged, but why they would need it, I have no idea.
Saw good joke about Russian army:
2021 - 2nd army in the world
2022 - 2nd army in Ukraine
2023 2nd army in Russia.
Are you claiming Chechnya attacking Russia now and they are on the verge of taking Moscow?
Wagner is made up of private mercenary's from around the world and a lot of them are Chechen.
Can you please slow down, i need to breath
Wagner already went through Lipetsk oblast, Tula oblast and some sources says that they already reached Moscow oblast, though, no comfirmation about it yet. What it looks strange that they are moving without any resistance. Where is glorious Russian army, why we don't see them? So far we mainly saw Rosgvardia who only can fight against peaceful protests, police and some KAMAZ trucks and tractors blocking roads.
Everything looks so strange that I can't believe that's really happening. One thought can't leave my mind that whole this thing can be staged, but why they would need it, I have no idea.
Saw good joke about Russian army:
2021 - 2nd army in the world
2022 - 2nd army in Ukraine
2023 2nd army in Russia.
Everything looks so strange that I can't believe that's really happening. One thought can't leave my mind that whole this thing can be staged, but why they would need it, I have no idea.
Saw good joke about Russian army:
2021 - 2nd army in the world
2022 - 2nd army in Ukraine
2023 2nd army in Russia.
Prigozhin been posting videos for years now with his whereabouts and somehow he is still alive.
If he misbehaves he will feel the wrath of the local babushkas, they will deal with him.
The other day in the local mall i had the chance to be any place i wanted.
Anyone who falls for the baloney really is a world class chump.
Your entire online persona revolves around convincing yourself you haven't fallen head over heels for a different flavor of baloney.
Is that so? Actually I very often question what the Russian deep-state and what the general 'Govern - Mentality' are up to and warn that there are a lot of things which stink. The Soviets were way ahead in terms of psy-ops for most of the cold war and used them mercielessly against their own. It is the basis for Communism in fact...more-so than even the West's present form of 'Democracy'.
Even though I mentioned it a few days ago, I'll do it again for your benefit: What are the chances that Russia rid itself of the Soviet-era psychological engineers since Putin's time even pretending that there was a broad political desire to do so? I would say zero. Putin himself was built up via cult-of-personality methods of the same basic type as Trump, Fauci, etc.
Those days when your own chef wants to dethrone you
In the meantime...
Then again, maybe its all show arranged by them 2 to root out and get rid of
those that come out of hiding to support "coup"
those that come out of hiding to support "coup"
Looks like the Russians saw how easily the Ziocons gas-lit most of the world's 'stand-with-Ukraine' retard brigades and thought they would have a little fun themselves. Anyone who falls for the baloney really is a world class chump.
Quick, NATO, Now's your chance!!! Go! Go! Go!
...or at least don't let up the extreme pressure (lol) that the 'Greatest Counter-offensive' is apply to them Rooskies...
Then again, maybe its all show arranged by them 2 to root out and get rid of
those that come out of hiding to support "coup"
those that come out of hiding to support "coup"
Then again, maybe its all show arranged by them 2 to root out and get rid of
those that come out of hiding to support "coup"
those that come out of hiding to support "coup"
The bald rebel is claiming that he took Voronezh, and shot down a few helicopters and a transport plane. Russia air force apparently bombed the wagnerists on M4. I haven't had time to geolocate that shit on my own so I'm not gonna post the links but there is quite a lot of fortification going on around Moscow so shit's getting real. There are also reports of them moving to Krasnodar (opposite direction from Rostov than Moscow, towards Crimea).
They seem also to be on their way to Moscow. Putin has given an address to the nation and it could be that part of the military are quite ok with getting rid of the current government. I wonder if it could come the day that we see Putin in the Hague like Milosevic, awaiting the day to have a rope around the neck.
Anyway, it seems that despite this little disputes between the local dictators, the war goes on. Prygo is not really into anything better than Putin on that regard -for now.
The bald rebel is claiming that he took Voronezh, and shot down a few helicopters and a transport plane. Russia air force apparently bombed the wagnerists on M4. I haven't had time to geolocate that shit on my own so I'm not gonna post the links but there is quite a lot of fortification going on around Moscow so shit's getting real. There are also reports of them moving to Krasnodar (opposite direction from Rostov than Moscow, towards Crimea).
I hope Prigozhin and other hardliners win and get control of nukes
[...] I became scared to comment because if you support Ukraine in a post, you become an enemy of members from Russia
For some reason, I always thought that you need to think about conscience and not about what others think of you. The portrayal of the Russian soldier as the instigator of the civil war is not reflected accurately in public news. Wagner, on the other hand, is leveling accusations of government corruption and other issues stemming from the war. Additionally, I speculate that the civil war may have external sponsorship, as some believe that exploiting the internal crisis would serve as a significant distraction.
If this civil war has foreign sponsors then Russia didn't put their house in order. Allowing foreign nations to influence Prigozhin is a failure of the Kremlin to put their house in order. The head of Wagner has been complaining of the misbehavior of Putin's military chief and the president failed to arrest the situation. Prigozhin made it clear that Putin was been lied to about the outcomes of the battles. He doesn't know much about the battlefield it is his military chiefs that give him reports. And they are lying to him. The reason for this civil war personality or power class between Prigozhin and Putin's military chiefs.
Interesting things happening in Russia today. Seems that conflict between Prigozhin and Ministry of Defense reached new level. Prigozhin accused Russian army for carying out strike against Wagner camp and result of it - ''huge number of cusalties. FSB already started criminal case against Prigozhin. Here is short summary of all his statements today:
https://meduza.io/en/feature/2023/06/23/wagner-s-march-of-justice
General Surovikin made video statement with riffle in his hands, asking Prigozhin and Wagner to stop what they're doing
https://t.me/rusbrief/129028
Meanwhile armored vehicles were noticed in Rostov and Moscow. And seems that they started blocking roads in Rostov:
https://t.me/news161ru/33631
I have no idea how everything will end, maybe this story will have boring outcome, but my popcorn is ready.
https://meduza.io/en/feature/2023/06/23/wagner-s-march-of-justice
General Surovikin made video statement with riffle in his hands, asking Prigozhin and Wagner to stop what they're doing
https://t.me/rusbrief/129028
Meanwhile armored vehicles were noticed in Rostov and Moscow. And seems that they started blocking roads in Rostov:
https://t.me/news161ru/33631
I have no idea how everything will end, maybe this story will have boring outcome, but my popcorn is ready.
The portrayal of the Russian soldier as the instigator of the civil war is not reflected accurately in public news. Wagner, on the other hand, is leveling accusations of government corruption and other issues stemming from the war. Additionally, I speculate that the civil war may have external sponsorship, as some believe that exploiting the internal crisis would serve as a significant distraction.
That is some really deep crisis if this is sponsored from the outside as it means the world had enough and his Ottoman empire style of leading rather than a Western Government where he,Putin boasts himself as a great leader of a great liberal nation.
Ukraine should be very careful as this may as well be orchestrated (highly unlikely as this has been going on for months) and as such they should not be at all distracted from their counteroffensive objectives to liberate as much land as they can and this is a great moment to come forward.
Interesting things happening in Russia today. Seems that conflict between Prigozhin and Ministry of Defense reached new level. Prigozhin accused Russian army for carying out strike against Wagner camp and result of it - ''huge number of cusalties. FSB already started criminal case against Prigozhin. Here is short summary of all his statements today:
https://meduza.io/en/feature/2023/06/23/wagner-s-march-of-justice
General Surovikin made video statement with riffle in his hands, asking Prigozhin and Wagner to stop what they're doing
https://t.me/rusbrief/129028
Meanwhile armored vehicles were noticed in Rostov and Moscow. And seems that they started blocking roads in Rostov:
https://t.me/news161ru/33631
I have no idea how everything will end, maybe this story will have boring outcome, but my popcorn is ready.
https://meduza.io/en/feature/2023/06/23/wagner-s-march-of-justice
General Surovikin made video statement with riffle in his hands, asking Prigozhin and Wagner to stop what they're doing
https://t.me/rusbrief/129028
Meanwhile armored vehicles were noticed in Rostov and Moscow. And seems that they started blocking roads in Rostov:
https://t.me/news161ru/33631
I have no idea how everything will end, maybe this story will have boring outcome, but my popcorn is ready.
The portrayal of the Russian soldier as the instigator of the civil war is not reflected accurately in public news. Wagner, on the other hand, is leveling accusations of government corruption and other issues stemming from the war. Additionally, I speculate that the civil war may have external sponsorship, as some believe that exploiting the internal crisis would serve as a significant distraction.
I stayed clear of commenting on posts concerning Ukraine and Russia conflict because it became complex. In the forum, supporters of these two nations attacked each other and it was that serious. I became scared to comment because if you support Ukraine in a post, you become an enemy of members from Russia and if you speak well about Russia, Ukrainians will dislike you. But today I needed to speak because what I heard today broke my heart. Prigozhin an insider of Russia declaring that this war was founded on lies is a pointer that this war was senseless. There were no Fascists in Ukraine, the claim was totally false. This is total war and not a special operation. The loss of lives and properties was just for the political gains of a few greedy men. Putin and his cronies lied to Russian citizens and supporters.
Ukraine war based on lies: Wagner mercenary chief
Ukraine war based on lies: Wagner mercenary chief
We knew this all along,the West knew this all along that is why they supported Ukraine this much in this senseless war,it was much different than Crimea in 2014 where the West and EU did not do much in sanctioning Russia and that was seen as a weakness ready to be exploit so Putin made up a big army in these 8 years up to 2022 when he decided to invade Ukraine.
While Putin wanted to become a great man in Russia history and to be seen as Peter the first all the other gang from Kremlin want just personal gains with Shoigu being at the forefront and accused from Prigozhin that he just wanted a hero star.Things have precipitated now and we may see a lot of changes in the coming days.
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