Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 136. (Read 77398 times)

For example, in order not to sabotage the grain deal. Do you have any idea what it's all about? How could Ukraine sell its grain under this deal if Russia would supply it for free?

Let's go again, Russia is ready to supply free wheat to countries in need if the grain deal is not extended. In other words, the starving countries of Africa will receive for free from Russia all the volume of wheat that fell from the closing of the grain deal. How many tankers Ukraine sent to Africa as part of the grain deal, Russia will send as many tankers free of charge after the cancellation of the deal. Is it clear now?

Through neocolonialism, former colonial powers created situation where they continue to occupy Africa through economic means (read John Perkins
book "Economic hitman")...IMF, USAID, weaponized dollar are all neocolonial instruments.
Few countries managed to claw away from such situation, just for their leaders get killed by west, either directly or through
sponsored coups

Examples:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muammar_Gaddafi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Sankara

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruben_Um_Nyob%C3%A8

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrice_Lumumba

I don't know who's "you" but the former colonialists seem to be trying to get that grain going while Putin, the friend of random African dictatorships, keeps holding said grain hostage with these ridiculous negotiations and threats to not allow it to be exported. It shouldn't be subject to negotiations to begin with. It's only a problem because Putin created it, what with the invasion and the deluded imperialist "I own the Black Sea" nonsense.

So now hunger in Africa is created by "your ways", Africans have nothing to do with it? The fact that many countries in Africa wage war after war and those who do not are under kleptocratic rules is all due to "your ways".

Look, it is time that African countries take responsibility for their own destiny and their situations. If you cannot feed a family of three, why do you keep going until they are seven and then have to live on subsidies from "the evil capitalists". Why people cannot look beyond the "tribes" and try to build countries where they can progress instead of killing each other?

But anyway, if Russia blocks the grain deal and no matter who you choose to blame (Russia cannot do wrong for you, I know, it is all somebody else's fault) the end result will be a famine, mostly in Africa, but not only in Africa. Again, a great diplomatic win.

I simply have problem with you taking most profit from situation you created, where you did not produce wheat, but your colonial ways produced
hunger in Africa

Meanwhile Turkey agreed to support Sweden bid to join NATO and now Baltic sea basically becomes lake of NATO. First Turkey released Azov commanders, now supported Sweden bid to join NATO. From neutral country now they're turning into unfriendly country for Russia.

https://t.me/vert_i_call/12669

If these countries who ratified convention would supply cluster bombs to Ukraine, that would be war crime. Now they can be against, they can condemn this decision, but it doesn't really matters.

Ok, some random % based on nothing more than personal expectations. So far you weren't doing very well with future predictions, but continue. And dreams about more territorial gains when Russia was taking Bakhum for how long, 10 months? Oh, I forgot, it wasn't even Russia but Wagner.

Is Russia sending grain to Africa? A bulk wheat shipment is en route to Africa - https://www.dw.com/en/a-bulk-wheat-shipment-is-en-route-to-africa/a-62869235. The real question is, did Russia poison the grain like the Ukraine is doing with the shipments they export?

Sure, blame Russia for the toxic Ukraine grain. But it is Monsanto practices of spraying poisonous weed killers on the grain. After all, it is Monsanto who along with 2 other companies, bought up 60% of Ukraine farmland.

If Ukraine strikes a peace deal with Russia then I don't care for all the civilians horribly killed in Bucha,Irpin and Kharkiv as that means that Ukraine does not give the slightest f for all the blood of innocent civilians shed,not talking about military personnel as they live to die in the battlefield,that is their mission.

I don't think Ukraine is as stupid though,they know any peace negotiation with Russia is not at all a peace negotiation,Russia is the greatest liar in the world and they can attack again out of nowhere because they will feel like that,one night an ill imperial fantasy dream will go through the head of many government persons and boom Ukraine under siege again.So I think Ukraine should continue fighting as long as it takes for Victory,Russia can't and they will join NATO,then they will not give a damn anymore what Russia does,only then they will be safe from this evil.

You're like a small child who gets a dollar for ice cream and a dollar for candy and comes home crying without ice cream or candy. "Why didn't you buy it?". "I forgot which dollar is which". It doesn't matter which grain goes to Africa and which dollars pay for it, as long as the supply is sufficient to keep the price affordable. Real world works differently than Stalin's (or Tito's) five year plan, try to keep up.


Except "russia" is not doing that. Why?

I don't see any "west" flags there, do you?

https://youtu.be/PVZehWXvVx8

https://time.com/6163624/russia-africa/


So spread your PR elsewhere 

Russia is taking care of making peace between China and India. It's called BRICS.

Try nutritional supplements sometime.

Have you tried first making peace between India and China?  
And by first I mean before doing drugs!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyiv



Conquering the world through BRICS and in many other peaceful ways.

LOL what? Do you really understand the meaning of the word "deal"? Since the conclusion of the grain deal, none of its points regarding Russia has been fulfilled. Moreover, immediately after its last extension, the Togliatti-Odessa ammonia pipeline was defiantly blown up by Ukraine in the Kharkov region. A deal is a deal, if one of its parts is not fulfilled, the deal is terminated.

As for charitable assistance, Russia has repeatedly stated that it is ready to deliver targeted supplies of wheat and fertilizers to the most needy African countries in the required volume free of charge. No grain deal is needed for this, Russia again had a record grain harvest last year.

Nah, this is supply and demand, if there is plenty of grain available the market price is low. If it is rotting in an Ukrainian granary or in the fields, prices will go up. The first one feeling the impact are the ones who can afford to pay less. So, I agree, countries that need that grain are not stupid and right now it is Putin's "government" making the choice - I can see here yet another "diplomatic success" coming.


I assume that supporting the countries that need that grain does not count as an "advantage" to the RF? No wonder you have to keep the federation together by force - the RF do not seem to understand the basics of human relations other than "do as I tell you or I kill you".

In general, this is a good sign for Russia and for the whole world. There are many signals that there are very active behind-the-scenes negotiations between various participants, one way or another involved in the conflict. I think that with a probability of about 80%, this topic will lose its relevance towards the end of this year in connection with a peaceful settlement between Russia and Ukraine. There is also about a 20% chance that there will be a new phase of escalation in the fall, most likely related to the desire of Poland and the Baltic States to also participate in military operations against Russia. For Russia, this is an acceptable option, it will probably end with new territorial acquisitions. I assess the risk of nuclear escalation with a full-fledged direct confrontation between Russia and NATO as minimal. I assess Ukraine's ability to reverse the unfavorable course of the conflict during the current counter-offensive as zero, I think this counter-offensive has almost completely fizzled out. And there will be no next chance for Ukraine.

does not qualify at all as war crime. The use of cluster munitions in civil populated areas is, due to the extreme chance of collateral damage.  Europe do not like them because they are basically a defective product that fails between 5 and 20% and then stay in there for very long.

To give any credit to those claims of previous useI would need some sources as just saying so does not make it so.

On the "desperation" interpretation... I think if they really worked as intended is perfect for clearing trenches, so it is just the right weapon for the taks.

I want to say what I already said above. Personally, I don’t see a big problem in the supply of cluster munitions from the United States to Ukraine, especially since Ukraine used cluster munitions quite actively before, for example, shelling Donetsk with petal mines or attacking Kramatorsk with Tochka-U missiles with a cluster warhead about a year ago (April 8, 2022 to be exact). You are right, Ukraine, Russia and the US have not ratified this convention. However, many NATO countries have ratified it, such as Great Britain, Germany, Spain, France, Italy, etc. - and from their point of view, this is a war crime.

Russia has achieved what it set out to do in the first place. Russia has freed the areas of the Ukraine that it set out to free. The thing is, it cost a whole lot more for Russia than they had expected. However, the Russian advantages are...

1. The sanctions have increased the wealth of Russia, and set into play the destruction of the USD as the world currency... BRICS;
2. The Russian military has been enhanced to be the strongest in the world as of now, by preparing for a real war with Ukraine if necessary;
3. If Russia really wanted, they could easily take out Kiev through Belarus;
4. Ukraine is slowly sliding into obscurity because there is nothing left of their military, except the blabber-mouthing that Zelensky is constantly doing, even though they are being propped up by the US and Nato countries, somewhat.

Chop off the head of a snake (in this case the US, and especially the Federal Reserve banking system), and the body still thrashes around for a while. So it will be for the US. Russia will finally become the world power that everybody was afraid of... with China second.

Note that if China had the strength, they would have invaded Siberia long ago, and taken it from Russia. The US and many other nations would have done the same... if they had the strength. Russia always has been strong, and now it is becoming stronger than ever.

Something like war-crime accusations don't mean anything. Many big nations do the same.


Russia Says Cruise Missile Launched On Crimea As War Reaches 500 Days

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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-says-cruise-missile-launched-crimea-war-reaches-500-days
In another significant escalation, Russia says it shot down a cruise missile launched by Ukraine over Crimea, according to Crimean Governor Sergei Aksyonov.

Drones inside Russia's territory or over Russian-controlled Crimea have been a regular feature of this war, but cruise missiles or other long-range heavy missiles much less so.

Regional reports say the attack temporarily halted traffic over the immense Crimean Bridge:

Krym Realii media outlet reported that several explosions were heard in occupied Crimea at around 12 p.m. on July 9.

Following Aksyonov's claim, local Telegram channels also reported that the traffic was temporarily stopped at the Crimean Bridge that connects the Russian-occupied peninsula and mainland Russia over the Kerch Strait. There have been no further details.

Elsewhere, the Rostov regional government reported that a Ukrainian missile was intercepted over its territory in the south of Russia. "There were no casualties. The debris partially damaged the roofs of several buildings," Governor Vasily Golubev wrote.

As these kinds of attacks have increased and become more frequent over the last several months, Kremlin accusations of the US directly assisting in cross-border attacks have increased. Russia has warned in response it could begin taking out "decision-making centers" in Ukraine in response, and in some cases it has acted on these warnings.
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So, you want to admit that Russia did war crimes by shelling Ukraine with cluster munitions? Or you trying to deny facts that Russia used it in this war or as you call ''special operation?
But as I said, Ukraine didn't ratified convention against cluster munitions, same as USA. And Russia too. So, there is no point ot look for war crimes there.

Without going deep into details - yeah, something similar