Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 211. (Read 73721 times)

Well, at least Geran-2 is more accurate than Shahid-136, because it uses the GLONASS satellite system for guidance, and not a commercial GPS.

Again, and just for the shake of following your logic - not agreeing with it - it is impossible to win in a battlefield when the opposing party controls the money printing machine, has a larger, better trained and better equipped army and is not sending their own to die, but rather arming another country.

Perhaps one could conclude that Adolf Putin's RF is throwing a very expensive and deadly tantrum.


More than half of the incoming attacks are being shot down. Those numbers are likely to increase once Germany sends their systems and the US sends the AMRAAM based systems (kind of cheap, effective and with a virtually unlimited supply of spares).

The reason Adolf Putin has to throw expensive and many time inaccurate missiles is precisely because the airspace dominance has been denied by the effectiveness of the Ukrainian defence and, to be fair, by corruption, incompetence and lack of real resources from the RF since day 1.

Fortunately, Ukraine does not have an effective air defense system.

Putin has the Ukraine beat, hands down. He's just Biden biding his time until China is ready to start a war with the US. Then things will be really easy taking down both the US and Ukraine... all without nukes.

There is no big disagreement between the sides as to what territory is under their control. You can overlay the map from e.g. Deep State (pro-Ukrainian) over the maps from pro-Russian sources (e.g. Rybar) and it will be very similar.


False.


False, albeit subjective and relative so perhaps some aspects of it can be twisted into "lacking".

Ukrainian forces are generally better trained, have superior reconnaissance, and are better supplied with certain types of modern weapons, although their starting position wasn't too good and Russian forces have huge amounts of soviet equipment and ammunition, not to mentioned their meat grinder strategy. Again, this is all largely confirmed even by pro-Russian sources, if you just look past the official RF MOD "we shot down 300 airplanes of 50 they had" bullshit.

I think you're making the assumption that Ukrainians can't successfully fight back based on false information.

But both sites show you that there are people who link the Shahed-136 to the Geran-2. It's a start.

I am trying to read the events based on the information published by the media, which cannot be completely trusted, since it will always belong to one of the parties to the conflict.
Unfortunately, Ukraine does not have an air defense system, and its forces on the ground lack sufficient support and experience. This makes it hard to believe that the Ukrainian army is making any progress on the battlefield.
I agree with you that holding the referendum is a fictitious thing to give an illusory legitimacy to colonialism, but this proves that the armies have actually controlled the aspects of life in those regions.

I'm not seeing anywhere in your links any claim that they were made in Russia.

Looks like a few weeks ago Russia admitted they suck at making drones, while Iran has been putting tons of resources into developing drones for over a decade with very good results: https://eurasiantimes.com/russia-accepts-drones-inferiority-says-most-uavs-dont-meet/

There are other people who think this.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HESA_Shahed_136

https://www.simpleplanes.com/a/vX4kaC/Shahed-136Geran-2

If you are really interested in this, use the Yandex.com search engine and whatever good translation site you can find.

Source?

And don't tell me it's just because they renamed them.

In fact of the matter. Due to the low cost, you can launch fifty kamikaze drones at one target and it will be almost guaranteed to be hit, even if it is protected by the best air defense system. In this case, you spent only a million dollars, and your opponent shot all the ammunition and still could not protect the target. This is a serious problem for Ukraine and NATO, for which there is currently no solution (especially in the event of a night attack). Generally speaking, this is a problem for Russia too, because the mass production of such drones in garage conditions can be quickly deployed by almost any country in the world. By the way, this is why Iran denies its involvement in the supply of Shahid-136 drones to Russia, these drones are made in Russia and are called Geran-2. And in terms of the set of components, they are even more Chinese than Iranian.

Glad you're having fun.

Basques in general support Ukraine.  And Putin hasn't started a war in Spain.  He'll need to finish what he started in Ukraine and still have a military first.

Like Ukraine, Spain would be a great country for Putin to invade if he wanted NATO to continue expanding quickly.

What "vital centers"? Just look at the map and see the regions LTU_btc is talking about. Running a "referendum" and announcing an annexation doesn't make the territories belong to Russia. It's a stupid ploy so that they can now say "Russian territory" is under attack. It doesn't make the military activities any more successful. Russians are hastily leaving Kherson, which was the only major city they captured this year other than the nearly-destroyed Mariupol.

Russia may have announced the annexation of these areas after the success of its military invasion, but there is no evidence to the contrary, at least with regard to what the Ukrainian forces, which announced their recapture of limited areas of those that Russia announced that it had annexed, mean the opposite.

By the same logic, it cannot be said that the Ukrainian forces have recaptured those provinces, especially since Russia had announced a referendum in those regions to find out the opinion of the residents. I know that this may have been done in a fictitious form, but it actually happened, which means Russia's seizure of the vital centers in those provinces.

You're saying that NATO don't have antidote for these Iran drones, but in reality, things is a bit different. Ukraine simply have lack of modern air defense systems, but even with stuff that they have, they don't let high % of these lawnmowers to reach point of destination. Though, expensive missiles are being used to shoot down these $20k worth drones.
Russia destroying civilian and critical infrastructure of Ukraine, but how much it helps Russia to achieve something in front? Rhetorical question.
And it's same like they don't use word ''war when they talk about what's happening in Ukraine, they're afraid or ashamed to admit that they're using drones from Iran.

When I read this post I really felt like watching Russian propaganda TV or reading drunk Medvedev telegram posts about Judgement Day . These things works in Russia, but outside it it's just makes smiles.

It is only thanks to Russia's asymmetric dominant superiority in nuclear weapons that the US and NATO are doing their best to avoid being drawn directly into the conflict between Russia and Ukraine. The real world is a strange thing, six months ago it was difficult to assume that Iran has an asymmetric dominant superiority in the development of kamikaze drones. And now NATO is feverishly looking for an effective antidote to flying lawnmowers.

Thank you both for the Channel 1 broadcast but out here in the real world Putin's demands and threats aren't very impressive. They're designed to impress you in the soviet russian imperial propaganda bubble and it seems to be working so far. Get ready to accept the great victory of defending Voronezh against the evil nazis.

Not all separatists are treated equally

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1581759661769826304

There is no reason for Russia to use tactical nuclear weapons as part of a special operation in Ukraine, all speculation about this is groundless. The possibilities of conventional weapons are far from being exhausted. However, the situation is developing in such a way that the military defeat of Ukraine seems to be an unacceptable scenario for the development of events for the United States and NATO. And for Russia, a military defeat of Russia is unacceptable. Under such conditions, the probability of an attempt to cut the tightening Gordian knot with a strategic nuclear strike is higher than zero. I think Russia's numerous threats about possible strikes on decision-making centers are not "the last Chinese warning" and are not directed at Kyiv at all, but at Washington and London. I see one of the most realistic scenarios for such a strike in the combat use of Poseidon nuclear drones. One Poseidon of half power is enough to wash away London and all of England with a radioactive tsunami. Four full-power Poseidons (two from the Atlantic and two from the Pacific) are enough to wash away Washington, New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco and create a deserted coastal zone 500 km deep on both coasts of the United States. After that, apparently, a mutual exchange of missile strikes between Russia and the United States and a test of the combat capability of their missile defense systems will begin. The chances of Russia in the post-apocalypse world, in my opinion, are higher than the chances of the United States, primarily for geographical reasons (vulnerability to strikes from the ocean), and secondly for technical reasons (the United States has no effective countermeasures against Poseidon, plus Russia has a hypersonic weapons and the overall advantage of delivery vehicles, plus, in my opinion, the missile defense system in Russia is more effective than the missile defense system in the United States). But the main beneficiary of such a scenario would likely be China (if the conflict in Taiwan does not erupt before the conflict in Ukraine enters a critical phase).

Its impossible to win using soft power when other side own world money printing machine


Really? I thought many Warsaw Pact countries joined way before that

I brought it up because I was responding to some BS about post-USSR referendums.

As I said, you may want to try reading what you're replying to, unless your intent is to be an utter dolt.