Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 275. (Read 73622 times)

You do not have numbers on the RF losses? Why? Is not like if they were trying to hide the number from the RF people right? Is just that, the Orcs do not have people that can count to 30.000 maybe?

Yes I know "a planned rotation" of course! -  The young Russians "rotate" into sunflower pots and more young Russians "rotate" into a T-62... eventually to become new habitats for worms.

Usual combat losses, this happens during armed conflicts. The current tactics of the Russian army are very effective in terms of minimizing combat losses of personnel, but unfortunately the desire to reduce losses to zero is unrealistic.

I don't have exact numbers of Russian losses during the operation, this information is classified (and to be honest, I don't really care). By planned rotation, I mean a planned rotation, whereby units involved in direct combat engagements are sent to the rear every six weeks to compensate for the accumulation of physical and psychological fatigue, and to minimize the risk of soldiers developing post-traumatic stress disorder. It is a pity that you do not know what a planned rotation is, because it seems that Ukraine cannot afford such a luxury.

I am well aware that you would like to be.free to post fakes without anyone replying. You are clearly using the old and well known tactic of posting so much fake and misleading information that it would take a lifetime to link sources providing proper information for every lie you post.

Would you not rather eat a dog? They are still fresh, not like this:

https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1498421431079735297


Losses, what do you mean? You just said a post ago that there are only 500 RF prisoners, so, how many dead according to your "sources" that require "a planned rotation"?

But do not worry, the young people of the RF already know where the "rotation" is going to come from, so please, let them know here how many of them are "planned" already, they are surely very interested in considering their options.

https://inews.co.uk/news/world/young-russian-fled-avoid-war-drafting-says-i-dont-want-to-kill-anyone-1597503


So your interpretation of the RF army takin 100 days and still unable to control the territory is "Ukraine being embarrassed" - I think you have been drinking to much "official juice of comfort" lately.

Ukraine women and children fled Ukraine to avoid being killed - the simplest explanation is usually the right one. Europe is admitting them and if they become part of the EU they will be free to settle in the country of their choice in the future because that is how EU works. EU is happy to receive hard working people, educated and with experience kicking RF psychos assess, just in case.

The invasion of Ukraine is not "the Russians", is Adolf Putin's orcs army - mostly comprised manypeople who are NOT Russians ethnically, quite a few that would rather not be there and a good chuck of looting beasts.

Anytime.

And I'm sorry that I do not always, immediately and completely respond to your messages. You seem to be one of the few native American English speakers here, and probably the only one who actively uses idiomatic expressions, so it takes me a considerable amount of effort to understand what you write and I'm not always sure that I understand the full depth of the meaning that you put into your words. It's not your problem, it's just that my English isn't good enough (or it's closer to English English than American English, which doesn't make it better though). It's not that I'm ashamed of it (because striving to be the best at everything is the shortest path to neurosis), just a disclaimer.

You're right. Nevertheless, things are as they are, Russia needs a source of replenishment of manpower to compensate for combat losses and carry out a planned rotation. Even if the main work is done by cannon artillery and multiple launch rocket systems, we need living, combat-ready people along the entire line of contact (which is now about 700 km), and in the near rear too. And where to get them if Putin's political will not to mobilize and not to expose other areas too much (Russia is still geographically the largest country in the world with the longest border)? The question is basically rhetorical.

I have great news for you, the ignore button is right under my profile picture. You don't have to force yourself to respond to every message I send if you think I'm only capable of relaying lies from propaganda sources and nothing else. If you need my permission to feel more free, you just got it.

That domain 


Well, because US is the one supporting this war (like literally, UA would fold financially and militarily without US in a week). Why would US continue holding UA up if UA starts calling US military mercs? When was the last time US declared war on anyone?

The Ukraine just has to win. Why?

BREAKING: THE PENTAGON ADMITS TO 46 BIOLABS IN UKRAINE! - https://welovetrump.com/2022/06/10/breaking-the-pentagon-admits-to-46-biolabs-in-ukraine/


After all, wouldn't it be terrible if the world found out about this, and if any of the research was lost?

I could not care less about what the RF soldiers eat - feeding those that will soon die for Adolf Putin is a waste of resources. From their perspective, I would not blame them: the dogs do not have "use by August 1972" written on them.

Interesting info/take on the situation, so thanks.

Honestly, most of the people who would take the actions you are mentioning are probably not a real good fit for a modern professional military.  Contracting with the private sector to get them some basic weapons training in case they need to do home guard duty, conscription, or whatever would be pretty useful since they would gain some skills (and maybe some rationality) then be able to be more easily let go if/when no longer needed.  Even cheap mercs are not probably an economically desirable way to roll.  Of course those who perform well could be 'accelerated' and perform combat duties if they wish, and the whole thing would act as a sieve for getting people who are actually right for whatever military the Russians wish to build.

As for Arestovich, I've had my suspicions about the creature for a while.  In fact the whole 'leadership' of post 2014 Ukraine (whoever that might be.)  All they seem to be proficient at is embarrassing Ukraine in the most humiliating of ways, making sure that it will be a generation before anyone in the world takes any 'Ukrainian' seriously, and getting Ukrainians souls killed in the best numbers possible.  The millions of 'war refugees' vacated the place at the first whiff of powder even though the country remains basically un-touched.  Looks to me as though the 'refugees' simply used the so-called 'war' as an excuse to get the hell out of what was already a Nazified shit-hole, and the Western Zionised 'leaders' used it as an excuse to open their doors to yet another shade of 'multitude'.

I cannot shake the smell of rat coming off this whole fuckin' thing, nor the gut sense that 'the Russians' (at the deeper leadership/influence levels) are in on things a little deeper than is commonly perceived.  IOW, I don't trust the Russians, but I do generally respect, and continue to respect, how they've been conducting themselves at the more surface levels.  It's shrewd, and I suspect it will pay off big-time as the dust settles in whatever end up being the 'reset'.

Well, at least the information about 5000 dogs eaten by Russians soldiers with reference to a Ukrainian source, which I published on the previous page of the topic, inspires confidence in you? Or did I manage to lie there too?

I do not "doubt" your numbers , I am clearly stating that all the "data" you are providing in your posts are, in essence, false and directly brought from the RF Ministry of Dark Humour and Fantasyland tales. None of the figures, military capabilities, military "advances", "precision strikes" and many other "facts" have any resemblance to reality whatsoever. You usually do not  mention any sources and when you do, they are mostly related to RF controlled media which is worthless as a source of truth. In one word, bullshit.

As of now, many young RF citizens are absolutely scared of this year's military draft. They hide, bribe or try to find any reason to avoid being drafted this year for the army, despite you Adolf Putin claiming that he will not send them to the front. The young have VPNs and have no trust whatsoever in anything that Adolf Putin and his psychotic cronies say thanks to trolls like you.

Which of the two numbers do you doubt, 500 or 10,000? In Azovstal alone, about 2,500 people surrendered in three days. In the Donbass, soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are being taken prisoner regularly and in whole units. But you are right, there are doubts about 500 Russians in Ukrainian captivity - someone has already been killed, and periodically there are exchanges of prisoners in a one-to-one format, so Ukraine may have fewer Russian prisoners.

What interesting I've found, look here



What about this article? It's guide to russian "volunteers" (mercenaries) how to do in Ukraine. Interesting points is about relations with civilians. Translation (in short, from the second paragraph):

"Relationships with civilians

You can never trust to what say civilians. They could lie to you because they hate you and scary of you.

Do not talk about your plans near civilians. All civilians understand russian.

Do not allow civilians to be near your regiment

Do not allow passage of civilian transport through your regiment. Often, enemy uses civilian closes and cars to cover himself. If you can't shot directly to the car, shoot at wheels."

Interesting guide, really? So, what does it tells to us? That civilian are enemies to russian and ldpr soldiers and you can shot their cars and transport if you think that they are danger to you.

Good "liberators"

You are just throwing numbers, none of that is true. Lame.

Johnny, this sword is double-edged because Ukraine didn't declare war on Russia either. And if Ukraine has 500 Russian soldiers in captivity, then Russia has 10,000 Ukrainian soldiers in captivity. Think about it at your leisure (because your chances of being captured by the Russians are also not illusory).

Why so? You're NATO agent or what? Why you against the same treatment for NATO as for others?


As i said above, any russian soldier can be considered as merc, since russia didn't declare a war to Ukraine.

And fresh news from Ukrainian propaganda.
It is strange that the dogs were not raped before they were eaten. Tremble Europe, the Russians are coming.

But the war won't last. Already there is growing sentiment in America against the money being spent in Ukraine while American people are feeling the brunt of poverty in all their living conditions... inflation, gas and diesel prices, empty stores, etc.


Ukraine Fears It Might Lose Western Support Over "War Fatigue"

Meanwhile, Lyusya Arestovich seems to be already contemplating her new career as Putin's undercover agent.
I'll answer anyway. Many people in Russia were outraged to the core by videos of torture and murder of Russian prisoners of war. Many have significantly changed their minds about the operation in Ukraine and went to the military registration and enlistment office to sign up as volunteers. However, it was not easy to take part in the operation if you have no real combat experience behind you - you are put on the reserve, but then nothing happens. In essence, these people have only two ways - to take a training course in Gudermes and get into the Chechen regiment of Kadyrov, or to enlist in Wagner. Chechnya regularly delivers replenishment to Ukraine at a rate of about 200 people a week, but judging by the videos and photos, there are mostly people from the Caucasus. For people with a Slavic appearance with no combat experience who want to take part in the operation in Ukraine, Wagner turns out to be the only option. There is another option to go as a volunteer to Mariupol, but it does not involve participation in hostilities, but only restoration work, etc. In general, I share your point of view about Wagner, but this does not negate what I said above - this is almost the only option to get to the front in the absence of mobilization in Russia.

In other words, those Wagnerites who are now storming the Donbass are more likely not hardened soldiers of fortune, but the most ardent volunteers.

I was hoping for an exceptionally shitty "source" but you still managed to surprise me, well done:


Russia has a veto in the Security Council. The General Assembly did "admonish" Putin with an overwhelming majority.

I'd save Wagner services for Finland and Sweden if it comes to that.  I don't think there would be the same sorts of ethical arguments used in this element of the conflict in that neck of the woods.

Honestly, deferring the use of entities such as Wagner would be a pretty meaningful show of strength at this point for the Russians if they can avoid it.  If they want to shovel money at favored business owners (again, as the Americans do for their PMCs) they could probably accomplish it in other operations around the world.  Especially the Middle East, but with the sanctions and all of the issues that will provoke there should be all kinds of missions for them all around the world.


If the civilian court is open and fair, I've got no problem with that.  Especially if the Russians won't supply justice for crimes (e.g., Sp4 Green and his honorable discharge after the rape and murder of an Iraqi girl and murder of her family.)  Ukraine should expect comparable treatment of their captured criminals of course.  I have a beef with foreign militaries getting things like 'visiting forces agreement' deals where, by default, civilian courts (or domestic tribunals in some cases) are not in the loop for domestic crimes committed by the visiting/occupying soldiers.

In the case of mercenaries, I've got no problem with them getting the death penalty for nothing more than getting caught in-country if that's what a civilian court wants to do.  Local militias capturing them and applying whatever justice they are inclined to would be even more satisfying.  SF personnel from third-party nations and spies, same.  Those who cannot stand the heat should stay out of the kitchen.