Topic: Sanction isn't the right option - page 11. (Read 2747 times)

I think that the sanctions have already missed their purpose, so much so that they have affected countries that have nothing to do with the conflict, all of Europe is beginning to see the attics of this.

Sanctions are good, they have their purpose, but I think that the way they began to do it is not correct, that is, the USA swept the way to get RUSSIA away from everything, and this resulted in an increase in the proportion of the war , also that the oil market increased very quickly, gas being so useful for everyone has these levels of scarcity, I think that the sanctions are not having the correct effect or at least the expected one.

If you read anything about war tactics and strategy you will realize that the defender always has an advantage over the attacker, there are several reasons for this as they know the terrain better than the invaders, they can set up all kind of traps to delay the advancement of their opponents, and even more importantly since they are fighting for something tangible like their families and friends this makes them fight way harder than the invader army, so while without a doubt what the Ukrainian army and their volunteers are achieving is impressive, at the same time it is not as if it was impossible to foresee their great performance during this war.

Thank you for emphasizing that it is not only Russia that is suffering from economic decline. Ukraine's economy is in a so difficult situation due to the war, a lot of infrastructure has been destroyed, buildings, roads, mineral deposits are being ruined. It's all to the death of our people who are defending their home. Let`s not forget that the war takes place on the territory of Ukraine. Those who are worried about sanctions in russia may think that russia has at least something to start growing anew. While Ukraine already has no foundation in many issues due to constant rocket attacks, air strikes and shelling.

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Actually in human conscience they do not like violence which in the present case is war between Russia and Ukraine,
I don't think it will be easy to ask the leaders to stop the war they also have an inviolable decision,
in this case I think Russia already has a plan to overcome the sanctions

If talking was just so easy we couldn't have seen too many wars going on, even minor wars from different countries, not to mention the 2 major world war before.
Of course Russian people who has been heavily affected financially would not want the war to happen in the first place, but I don't think "majority" of them were. However, I guess Russia seems more than ready for the series of economic sanctions that's going to be imposed to them before they've made the attack.

I'm sure if the survey shows that the majority of the Russian population does not like war, if sanctions are imposed it will kill many innocent people, the best thing when there is war is to immediately stop the war and ask war leaders to be aware and care about humanity. If sanctions are imposed, the country affected by sanctions will experience difficulties and even create new, more complicated problems.

The example of Germany after the First World War is somewhat unobjective - the structure of the world, the world economy, the positions of countries - were very different from the current situation.
The best example is the imposition of sanctions and the collapse of the USSR. I personally found it, and saw how it ended. And here it is very important to compare the situation and the possibilities of the economy of the USSR and modern Russia. The problem is that the economy of the USSR was objectively stronger and for the most part self-sufficient. It could work in isolation for quite a long time, produce a significant part of the necessary products, services, and technologies. No, the USSR was not the most powerful world leader, but they had an economy that would allow (without sanctions), but in isolation to continue working for a long time. The economy of modern Russia is based on raw materials, and Russia itself, today, is a technologically backward country, dependent on the technologies of the West. It is unlikely that you will be able to prove the opposite. It is enough to look at the level of problems that arose in Russia JUST A month after the imposition of sanctions, the situation seems to indicate that such steps have a very strong, negative impact on the Russian economy. At the moment, Russia has some financial inertia and reserves left that will allow it to stay "afloat" for some time. But the loss of the hydrocarbon market, global isolation, and dependence on technology in almost all sectors of the economy, very soon (3-6 months from the current date), will lead, if not to a collapse, then to a significant drop in the level and quality of the economy.

Various countries that support sanctions themselves incur losses, but they understand that this is a payment for democracy, which cannot be obtained for free. Only while the payback for some is the decline of the economy, Ukraine, in addition to the destroyed economy, is also forced to pay with the blood of its citizens.

Are we sure about that? I feel like it was more about how citizens would be getting worse, and oligarchs would get poorer, so they would all get together and find a way to depose Putin. I mean at the very least just do not let him do election fraud and you will get rid of him. Everyone knows that without election fraud he would have been gone many many years ago, over a decade ago.

The only reason why he is still ruling the nation is the fact that he is capable of stealing elections and many fair third party organizations that checked the elections have said that it was not a fair election at all. This is why sanctions were put, to make sure that everyone hates him.

Economic factors became the foremost calculation when war broke out, especially food for civilians. Of course, with the occurrence of war there will be a decline in the level of the economy, for countries that are not ready to be independent, of course, the people will become victims. on the other hand, of course, many people will seek security for their assets. this aims to anticipate the continuation of his life after the war is over, because the material is physically damaged. therefore this is where the role of cryptocurrency is very helpful for that, because it is driven by all countries in the world, so crypto will not be greatly affected due to the war that occurred between the two countries.

Indeed, with current conditions where there is still a war between Russia and Ukraine, cryptocurrency is a solution for transactions around the world, including areas affected by war.
I think this is the benefit of crypto and we should use it well to help citizens who are victims

while traditional financial system disturb due war which is not allowed or suspend payment betwen countries, cryptocurrency could break this wall. even between citizen in conflict countries still could maket transaction without known by their government. bitcoin and other cryptocurrency were bordless, we can make transaction to people around the world no matter political or economic condiition.

The Sanctions were supposed to be a way for Putin to change his mind. Maybe a method to persuade him to back off or maybe give him a way out imo. But since Putin was pretty much sure that he was pushing with the war, the sanctions only served to actually hit the citizens of Russia instead of Putin, which lead to the damage not really hitting Putin that much. I guess they have to push out more stricter sanctions imo, one that would inevitably hit them for a long time to make Putin do a double take on what he's actually doing (which I really doubt, but hey, it wouldn't hurt to try).

Whenever you have to be ready to become a soldier, at this time there is no guarantee that the country will be safe, tensions between countries continue to increase even within the country there are also frequent riots caused by many things such as economics, politics and so on, and the presence of cryptocurrencies is certainly a good solution for save assets so that they will be useful in the event of war.

No level of sanctions can make Putin bow down from his intent as far as Europe and NATO nation's still play the dependency role on the Russian gas for their energies in their various nation's.

Many sanctions here and there only because they just want an end to this unscrupulous war and not that their sanctions can actually cripple Russia economy.  No amount of sanctions actually could drastically affect the Russian's economy in that there are other nations that are ready to trade and do business with Russia amid this war.

Remember, national interest is cardinal in the globe.

Yeah, an absolutely unprepared country can hold back the world's second army for 34 days right now. I wonder, if we were preparing, would we become the world's first army?

Even if the sanctions are being sold as a way to try to stop this war, if we are being realistic there is nothing that will stop Putin to try to get what he wants out of this war, the sanctions are really meant to weaken Russia economically to the point they cannot engage in another campaign like this one anytime soon against another country, so this will buy time to those other countries to either join NATO and if not to at least buy US armament to protect themselves in the case of a future conflict with Russia.

Sanctions will only cause big problems and humanity in the long run, I'm sure many Russians don't agree with the war but it's a sad thing because they have to accept the consequences of their government's invasion of Ukraine.

Sadly, you are right. Based on the poll surveys, most of the Russian citizens are in favor of their president's decision in invading Ukraine. I don't really understand why, because it's such a cruel act when it could be done in a diplomatic way instead of addressing it in an aggressive manner. And with this, yes, I guess the only way is to impose sanctions so that they would have no other choice but to raise the white flag and have some peace talks. I really do hope that this would happen because war makes no sense. Those people who benefit are just the elites and most people, particularly the innocent ones end up suffering and dying.

If the sanctions would continue, Russia's power could be limited because of limited resources and movement. This way, their fighting power would somehow weaken.

True. The world tried to solve the issue with Russia through diplomacy, but it failed, so sanctions were the next step in order to stop Putin. I hope it works, so further measures won't be needed to be taken against Russia.

On the other hand, I fear sanctions might not be enough, leading to the final alternative you mentioned and everyone is worried about.