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March 16, 2022, 04:44:37 AM
#32
It's an option to topple the economy of Russia but it doesn't mean it will be successful.
There are other countries who does need the supply of oil and look at it this way, in their country they will have the higher supply which means better economy, bills going down and gas price sinking. While us who are affected by the sanction will also sacrifice with the sudden price hikes.
Middle East will put a higher value in it because of the demand.
Again, this war is not about them because they are not the ones being affected. It is us below but they will force their egos just to prove who is the strongest.
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March 16, 2022, 03:17:54 AM
#31
Comparing the post-World War 1 reparations to the western sanctions against Russia seems kinda wrong to me.Refusing to do business with a country is one thing,demanding a country to pay a gazillion dollars is a completely different thing.Reparations are way worse than sanctions.
A huge part of the WW1 reparations were cancelled by the western countries,during the late 20s and early 30s,so that the German economy could recover,but the Great depression struck and the rest is history.
I don't think that the sanctions will turn the Russian people into extremists.Many people in Russia don't support the war in Ukraine.Don't believe the Putin propaganda.

 
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March 16, 2022, 03:07:50 AM
#30
Russia is not a superpower. It is deeply corrupt at every level of society, it doesn't have any significant technological progress in any sphere, mostly it is just living off the remnants of its Soviet legacy. Its economy was built around exports of fossil fuels
EU is no longer willing to deal with Russia again and this is even beyond the fossil fuel imported from Russia. I have read how some products are also exported from Russia to US and Canada, all these countries with good economy are no longer willing to deal with Russia. If Russia against all these nations, sanctions will later have negative effect on Russia, a country that prefer power than citizens, a country that do not like how the Soviet Union failed to continuing existing.
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March 16, 2022, 03:04:50 AM
#29
You do realise that you are actually indirectly supporting the Nazis to some extent, don't you? Hitler and his pathetic Nazi cronies tried to take revenge and got screwed royally in the process.

How? By pointing out that a downed economy, poverty, and sanctions have given rise to ultranacionalism? How is that supporting the Nazis? They didn't et to power in a bubble, all of their actions had a precursor in something else. That doesn't mean ultranationalism or any other form of nationalism should be accepted nor is it justified, but it sure didn't rise up out of nowhere. The economic mistakes made after WWI, that gave rise to nationalism served as a reminder of how not to approach a defeated country and as we all know, a different approach has been taken after WWII that would assure both reparations to those who need it, but also a push to the economies of defeated countries (Germany, Japan). So saying that this is in direct support of the Nazis is just flat-out wrong and is ignoring the wider historical picture from which we can learn a great deal.
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March 16, 2022, 02:48:24 AM
#28

Well, if there is a way to take out Putin and his inner circle, that must be the best option with the least collateral damage.
All the countries who are against Putin voted on this option. It is possible that this Sanction will neutralize Russia's economic system pushing them to stop evading Ukraine otherwise, their economic situation will down. Although it affects the global economic growth, I believe this gonna be the best option rather than fighting them back as surely it costs more lives. Leaders can't afford to do that, it should be done in the other way and this "sanction" befoe effective as what we see.
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March 16, 2022, 02:28:56 AM
#27
Economic Sanctions on Russia were necessary to condemned the attack on Ukraine soil  and this is righteous one act for other countries to join the battle over it. This is better hence provoking Russia more will result to World War III and this will become more nasty and more innocent lives will be at stake.
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March 16, 2022, 12:55:08 AM
#26
Sanctions will not benefit anyone including the US and Nato, but sanctions will certainly not cause the Russian economy to collapse. they have stood firm over the years by previous sanctions.

Do you realize that this is a fallacy? Just because something hasn't happened so far doesn't mean it will never happen.

Let's look at it with another example: since Marvell1 has not died so far, he will never die. Do you see it now?

Sanctions, just like war, are bad for everyone, and exacerbate economic problems that came from before the war, but they are an alternative tool to getting into a direct military conflict with Russia, therefore they are a lesser evil.


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March 16, 2022, 12:24:52 AM
#25
For a country like Russia, sanctions will only benefit, will develop its own production of goods. Already, gasoline prices in Russia are falling. And this is part of the cost of production. By continuing the policy of sanctions, we support the Russian economy and ruin our own. I think it is necessary to negotiate.
Sanctions will not benefit anyone including the US and Nato, but sanctions will certainly not cause the Russian economy to collapse. they have stood firm over the years by previous sanctions.
Russia is the second largest oil exporter in the world and the world needs energy to sustain it. There is no way to completely block Russian supply, and China is an example of this. China will benefit if the US and the West ban oil and gas imports from Russia.
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March 15, 2022, 10:21:53 PM
#24
Well, in the first place, what are the other options? It's either the western countries will impose economic sanctions like what they are doing right now or get involved militarily or attack Russia directly or not do anything at all. I guess those are the only options on the table. And the best one I suppose is to impose economic sanctions. That's not good, of course, as innocent Russian civilians are the ones who will bear the brunt. However, that must be the most peaceful thing to do and the one option that would pressure Russia at the same time not push it to use its nuclear arsenal.

Well, if there is a way to take out Putin and his inner circle, that must be the best option with the least collateral damage.
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March 15, 2022, 07:11:00 PM
#23
For a country like Russia, sanctions will only benefit, will develop its own production of goods. Already, gasoline prices in Russia are falling. And this is part of the cost of production. By continuing the policy of sanctions, we support the Russian economy and ruin our own. I think it is necessary to negotiate.
Sanctions will still hit Russia in long term, yes they have a low cost of fuel but who will use all of them if they can’t import it on many countries? Most probably their supply will increase and its value will slowly go down. This is the best solution so far aside from a peace talk, we can’t go for a war with Russia, they will feel that sanctions sooner or later but we also have to suffer first.
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March 15, 2022, 06:55:25 PM
#22
For a country like Russia, sanctions will only benefit, will develop its own production of goods. Already, gasoline prices in Russia are falling. And this is part of the cost of production. By continuing the policy of sanctions, we support the Russian economy and ruin our own. I think it is necessary to negotiate.
Even a big and powerful country like Russia will fall eventually even of they are rich in natural resouces when they do not have trade partners. They cannot produce everything so it's important that they continue their "friendly" relationship with China and countries in the middle East.
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March 15, 2022, 06:40:48 PM
#21
For a country like Russia, sanctions will only benefit, will develop its own production of goods. Already, gasoline prices in Russia are falling. And this is part of the cost of production. By continuing the policy of sanctions, we support the Russian economy and ruin our own. I think it is necessary to negotiate.
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March 15, 2022, 08:54:21 AM
#20
Russia is not a superpower. It is deeply corrupt at every level of society, it doesn't have any significant technological progress in any sphere, mostly it is just living off the remnants of its Soviet legacy. Its economy was built around exports of fossil fuels, and now the West is focused on severing this tie. Putin's war has revitalized NATO and heightened the global geopolitcal tensions, so there won't be any repeat of WWII scenario with Putin doing whatever he wants while the West trying to appease them. We're already past that. Russia won't emerge stronger, it will just get rolled back into the state it was in the early 90s.
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March 15, 2022, 08:35:30 AM
#19
Yes it's going to be the right option but the only problem is that Russia is not Germany so they won't easily bend with this economic sanctions, this is actually much better because the sanctions have started early so as to make sure that the war can't last for a really long time. The only problem with this is the innocent people of Russia will be a collateral damage unless they revolt which the Russians are really good at.
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March 15, 2022, 08:34:53 AM
#18
Putin made an immediate decision and entered Ukraine. This isn't expected by the world powers. Russia never expected such sanctions from the world countries and organisations. If Russia has thought of it, already alternate measures could've been made. Ukraine on the other side could've made itself stronger getting support from other countries. To make a country self sufficient is not an easy thing to be achieved all of the sudden. It is a practice and part of tradition, but people are not ready to adopt it. Maybe someday this could get back and people starts following it. Sanction could've been the right option,if it affect the government and not the public.

I know how ordinary Russians feel in these Western sanctions. Sad that they are involved in this too despite that they didn’t like Russia to go into war with Ukraine or any country in the world. I think Putin wasn’t prepared for these sanctions to come that crashed their economy, and cryptocurrencies won’t be enough to evade them.

Recently I am in contact with a dear beautiful friend of mine from Russia via Telegram, and I know how she felt being “isolated” from the world due to the banning of Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, etc. (unless using a VPN). She felt ashamed.

They would likely be the next “China” who are banning a lot of websites, apps, limiting video gaming times for minors, cracking down entertainment, celebrities, banning cryptocurrencies, etc. 

Putin is very much aware of the sanctions coming to Russia but he is known to be a president that is very stubborn to go after what he believes is right for him and not considering the suffering on the people. I think he planned to use cryptocurrency as channel for payment as he saw rubbie would face a lot of problem but yet the situation went bad for Russia and the police is locking protesters. Russia is really committing inhumane acts.
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March 15, 2022, 08:19:48 AM
#17
Putin made an immediate decision and entered Ukraine. This isn't expected by the world powers. Russia never expected such sanctions from the world countries and organisations. If Russia has thought of it, already alternate measures could've been made. Ukraine on the other side could've made itself stronger getting support from other countries. To make a country self sufficient is not an easy thing to be achieved all of the sudden. It is a practice and part of tradition, but people are not ready to adopt it. Maybe someday this could get back and people starts following it. Sanction could've been the right option,if it affect the government and not the public.

I know how ordinary Russians feel in these Western sanctions. Sad that they are involved in this too despite that they didn’t like Russia to go into war with Ukraine or any country in the world. I think Putin wasn’t prepared for these sanctions to come that crashed their economy, and cryptocurrencies won’t be enough to evade them.

Recently I am in contact with a dear beautiful friend of mine from Russia via Telegram, and I know how she felt being “isolated” from the world due to the banning of Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, etc. (unless using a VPN). She felt ashamed.

They would likely be the next “China” who are banning a lot of websites, apps, limiting video gaming times for minors, cracking down entertainment, celebrities, banning cryptocurrencies, etc. 
Actually what West countries wanted is Russia to be the next North Korea not the next China because it is going to be a blow for those countries as well because China the biggest exporter of most goods in the world and now Russia who is biggest exporter of Natural gas to the world.
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March 15, 2022, 08:11:16 AM
#16
Putin made an immediate decision and entered Ukraine. This isn't expected by the world powers. Russia never expected such sanctions from the world countries and organisations. If Russia has thought of it, already alternate measures could've been made. Ukraine on the other side could've made itself stronger getting support from other countries. To make a country self sufficient is not an easy thing to be achieved all of the sudden. It is a practice and part of tradition, but people are not ready to adopt it. Maybe someday this could get back and people starts following it. Sanction could've been the right option,if it affect the government and not the public.

I know how ordinary Russians feel in these Western sanctions. Sad that they are involved in this too despite that they didn’t like Russia to go into war with Ukraine or any country in the world. I think Putin wasn’t prepared for these sanctions to come that crashed their economy, and cryptocurrencies won’t be enough to evade them.

Recently I am in contact with a dear beautiful friend of mine from Russia via Telegram, and I know how she felt being “isolated” from the world due to the banning of Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, etc. (unless using a VPN). She felt ashamed.

They would likely be the next “China” who are banning a lot of websites, apps, limiting video gaming times for minors, cracking down entertainment, celebrities, banning cryptocurrencies, etc. 
legendary
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March 15, 2022, 03:03:46 AM
#15
Well, Putin are using the sanctions as a tool to motivate his citizens to direct their blame and anger on the West. He already proclaimed that the sanctions are hurting the West more.. than it is hurting his country. (Oil prices skyrocketed and he is laughing all the way to the Bank as a result of that)

Also... Russia is a Communist country and they are used to poverty, so isolation from the Western cultures and luxurious goods and services, will not affect them as hard as it will other Capitalist countries.  Roll Eyes

So... yes... The West will be blamed for everything and Putin will use that to his advantage.  Roll Eyes
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March 15, 2022, 02:55:35 AM
#14
Every country is trying to take advantage of others issue is the root cause of every wars, for example this Russia and Ukraine war started because of NATO extension so that existing super countries will have a spot on the other super power and may attack easily if needed so from Russia's perspective they are trying to save their border from other big nations.
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March 15, 2022, 02:13:37 AM
#13
Sanctions are necessary measures to stop a country from invading others because of the hefty price they would have to pay. So I won't say anything to that! However, it's hilarious to see that the sanctions are coming from such countries who are responsible for the maximum number of wars in the history of humankind. For example, UK and USA! They have initiated the maximum number of wars till date. So it's a hypocritic act all together.

I am not trying to justify war. But when you are a chain smoker, then you must not go ahead and motivate other people to quit smoking! You will then become laughing stock to the world. That's how we are seeing the sad people in the government of UK and USA who have destroyed the maximum number of population in the name of war and colonization. 
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