Topic: Sanction isn't the right option - page 15. (Read 2728 times)

Those countries that have been able to be superpowers can be scary to deal with; imagine what they can do, and I agree with you that sometimes, the history lesson is not enough to result in an unending cycle that would affect millions of people again. The weak will always be oppressed, and the strong will be greedy, and I think that's what's happening with small communities, imagine if it's countrywide crushing another country.

I hope there will be peace and prevent any useless death that wouldn't be good to anyone. It's always a risk, but war isn't the answer.

Sanctions that result in something would be reasonable, but do you think it can affect them entirely? I think they still can stand firmly within their ground and wouldn't have any problems with it or something.

So far, the world community has no other effective measures, except for sanctions against the aggressor. Of course, sanctions will not stop aggression quickly, especially if a strong state turns out to be the aggressor, as in this case. I believe that under an international organization such as the UN, there should be a strong army, which should be brought in very quickly against the aggressor. Then it will be effective. Now the Russian troops, after having suffered heavy losses in manpower and equipment in Ukraine, have switched to terrorizing the population. They shoot at civilians, destroying houses, schools, hospitals, factories and all infrastructure. The international community can only look at all this, impose economic sanctions and supply weapons to Ukraine. They are afraid to join the war against the aggressor, so that the war does not develop into a third world war.
One thing is clear: the security system in the world needs to be changed, I will point out that the current one is absolutely ineffective.

Punishment for those who make mistakes is completely right, but what kind of punishment needs to be carefully considered? The OP's reasoning is just an opinion from your point of view, when in reality it's more complicated than that. Don't think you can solve the problem with your opinion. We don't know how leaders are trying to solve this problem when a small mistake can have huge consequences, so every action needs to be calculated. I was born in a country that has experienced many invasions by big countries, so war, in my eyes, is like hell. Many people have sacrificed for us to have our lives today. The lessons of history are still there, and those with bad intentions will always be annihilated. Indeed, and indeed, I always dream of this world as one country, and we always love to help each other live happy.

Here is the issue with these sanctions. Many countries banned Russian oil. However not all the countries. So think about it this way. The US imports less oil from Russia, so Russia exports the same amount to some other non sanction country and then Us imports oil from another country which isn’t Russia. It completely balances itself out.

The only way these sanctions will work is if every country decides to sanction itself from Russia and it’s obviously not the case here. So this is why these sanctions won’t exactly harm the Russians if they still conduct trade with China and other countries.

 First of all putting sanctions and the german suffering after the first world war is not the same. In one of them a whole nation works to pay off a debt owed to winners of a war and they just simply declined it, the other one is just one nation not finding buyers and friends, you can't force people to do business with you, if they don't want to then they do not want to, its not like the first one at all. Secondly, Germany didn't need to invade Poland or any other nation just because they got a bad contract after the first world war, nor did they need to kill all the jewish people, that has nothing to do with the debt, that was pure all out nazism and that is why they were bad, not because they declined to pay their debts. After all, if Russia starts to attack even more places, military power of Nato is big enough to destroy it, but now we have nuclear weapons and things could go ugly in a second, let alone having a war. We could all die because of this, lets hope that sanctions are not seen as the same way.

Sanctions are never a good decision, by no means! What more sanctions, in my opinion, are a cheap blow below the belt and that is why the consequences are much deeper and stronger! Maybe one or two generations die in the war, sanctions affect 10 or more generations! And as it usually happens, they may remove the current person from the position, but in communities, many more of them are created, maybe even worse than them, so changing one person will not solve the conflict that has been lingering for decades, even centuries!
I will repeat what I always say, you can't do bad things and expect good to happen! I no longer know who is right in this war, but does it really matter when people die!? If "people" were in power, they would find a way to agree and resolve the misunderstanding, they would be willing to compromise ... but there are no "people" in any government, they just spread fear with these kinds of conflicts so they can rule unhindered!

I am not supporting Nazis. I am just asking isn't there is any other alternative that we can use to punish Russia instead of putting sanctions on them. Right now Russian people don't support war with Ukraine but if they lose their economy they might hate the west as well.

Putin made an immediate decision and entered Ukraine. This isn't expected by the world powers. Russia never expected such sanctions from the world countries and organisations. If Russia has thought of it, already alternate measures could've been made. Ukraine on the other side could've made itself stronger getting support from other countries. To make a country self sufficient is not an easy thing to be achieved all of the sudden. It is a practice and part of tradition, but people are not ready to adopt it. Maybe someday this could get back and people starts following it. Sanction could've been the right option,if it affect the government and not the public.

Sanctions are the best to make Putin change his mind and not to go on military forces of NATO countries or US because that will lead into WW3 and countries are being concerned and careful not to go into that plus Putin threat if there is military interception in that form. So I think cutting of finance from Putin is another way to get the fight to stop.


Putin may not result to use that to fight Ukraine. If that is clearly proved, then the world may go after Russia. They are being careful, Putin is only using the basic military facilities to fight so far

The only probelm with Russia might be :
- Being pushed to the side they might try and use Nuclear weapons
- They are already thinking of using chemical agents on the people

Therefore other than that :
- Sanctions are going to cut off the economic supply to Russia and indirectly cut off all the money that's going to the war
- I understand it's causing probelms with the people living here but at the same time it's super essential to do to show that everyone is United and supporting Ukraine
- without sanctions they cannot stop the fight, funding and there would be no basis for talks as well.

You do realise that you are actually indirectly supporting the Nazis to some extent, don't you? Hitler and his pathetic Nazi cronies tried to take revenge and got screwed royally in the process.

Do you really think Russia and Putin are foolish enough to make similar mistakes? I don't think so. Personally, I don't completely support these sanctions since they are hurting innocent Russian citizens who don't support the war.

However, I can understand why so many countries are putting pressure on Russia in this manner since they all want the war to end asap through these sanctions.

It is true that economic sanctions may break the backs of many countries. The country will become poor, maybe try to be self-sufficient, if it can, it will be able to survive, but it will not be able to shout at all. However, these theories may apply to Venezuela, Iran, and North Korea. But what happens when you try to play this kind of game with superpowers?

The greatest lesson of history is that no one learns from history. The same thing that is being done with Russia today is being done with Germany. Following Germany's defeat in World War I, Germany was burdened with a huge debt burden of about 269 billion gold coins. In terms of money, it is equivalent to 1 lakh tons of gold. The sole purpose of imposing this huge debt was that France and Britain wanted Germany to break the economic deadlock and not even think of war for the next hundred years. A master plan to subdue Germany without a war.

The problem is, only the weak die in the rice without hitting the hand. If you want to kill someone who has a sword in his hand, he will snatch the rice from you.

This humiliating chapter of the Treaty of Versailles provoked widespread outrage inside Germany. The Allies were to blame for Germany's economic woes at the time, and the people were agitating. When Hit-Lar finally came to power, he completely refused to repay the loan.

This debt burden and all the degrading chapters of the 1st Treaty of Versailles led to the rise of extremism in Germany. By capitalizing on which, the national hero becomes a hit-and-run offensive. Those who pushed for the treaty rather than cripple Germany seemed to invite more rather than avoid war through the treaty. Everyone knows the history of violence in the rest of Europe.

The context is not exactly the same, but how realistic is it if the West thinks that Russia will continue to weaken the economy by quietly imposing sanctions on this huge military power? It is possible to put pressure on Russia on various issues if we have economic relations. But when Russia is left completely helpless, will they apologize to the West as helpless? It is difficult to believe that Russia will do that with such a huge military force. When the Russians turn from angry to extremist against the West over Russia's problems, there may be a repeat of what happened in Germany. Which will devastate Europe.

They concede that the attempt to economically cripple Germany at the end of World War I was suicidal, which is why German leaders were tried after World War II but no attempt was made to harm the German nation. But they want to do the same thing with Russia again. It remains to be seen whether the outcome will be the same again or not.