Topic: sawdice the New Age of Dice - Let's play a game. - page 15. (Read 27098 times)

Why not? They almost never just say "OK, you were right, it was a scam". There are always vaguely plausible excuses: "a rogue employee deployed a nonce-skipper", "transaction maleability drained the cold wallets", "our site was hacked", etc. dice.ninja was the cleanest in that respect - they just disappeared one day and that was that.

Thats not true in all cases. Dadice is a clear example of that. We can just wait and see what they change once they resume their site.

if they were a scam i dont think they would give news about their website and problems they have

everyday getting closer to seeing if site is a scam or not




new crypto gambling site owners prey that dooglus doesnt check out their site and then post about it in thread.

as soon as dooglus does, the scammers knows it's over for them

We have temporarily stopped the website until we fix the issues that was mentioned here over the past 2 days.
and we are very thankful to everyone who pointed to those issues and helped us to improve and develop the site.

There's clearly a legitimate issue with them... they have no limit on how much you can bet, but had admitted to having less than 1000 BTC available to pay out winners with.

So by their own admission they are happy to accept bets which they know in advance they have no way of paying out if you happen to win.

I wonder if this is just temporary, or if there is a legitimate issue with sawdice? I'm going to go out on a limb and guess there's been no official statement about it yet anywhere.

But coming so close to the deadline for them to prove their cold storages, and the end of the 0% house edge...eh...

sawdice is down at my side at the moment i am unable to access the website i am getting this message Error! Can't load active theme. is that only for me or anyone else having this problem to access the website or maybe that site has problem to load the theme to access there.

After having read all the comments I would say missing of cold wallet and unlimited betting option these two things are really very disturbing and illogical even after so much discussion.OP should make these valid points raised by various respected members clear and satisfy them as soon as possible.I will deposit a little after all will be settled down in fair and clear way.

Zero house edge this is something unique, i am gonna try, lets see how its goes.

That's gotta be a flat-out lie. Even mis-typing 1 digit off I would feel like it was a lie, but you don't accidentally claim that it was 5 figures and then backtrack when called out...

Lol, nope. You most certainly do not.

Actually that "5 figure" seems like a typo..
Even if you have 999 coins, you can def. not offer "no maximum bet". Just-Dice used to have 100-200 coin bets like it was no big deal and even 20-30 coin bets would be too risky. But let's wait for the cold storage wallet and we can consider it from there.

I didn't mean to say that the first 3 points were bad. I meant to say that they do not seem to be consistent with using a script that has many accusations of backdoors in it. In my estimation someone with decent money would in fact make their own script from scratch (with some trusted opensource frameworks) or at least not base their site on -that- script. But if you do feel comfortable using that script, that's your choice I guess.

As emphasized by dooglus, this is absolutely not true. Your lack of knowledge about the provably fair mechanism is slightly concerning.



edit: I thought they had a max of 20 coin bets, but actually they have no limit in max bet - which is rather impossible "even" with a 3 figure bankroll.

Well, did you store JD's BTC cold storage over 1000 different paper wallets? Perhaps in a very distant world that could be possible...but you'd think even then that they would have collected it all up before announcing their site or at least offered an explanation, right?

The 1st of June is rapidly approaching...let's see what happens!

I guess it's possible their 5 figure sum of BTC is split over 1000 different paper wallets, and it was going to take them 2 or 3 days to collect it all into a single address, but it's been long enough now that at least some kind of update would be useful.

The fact that they're intentionally delaying giving out the cold storage wallet (well, there's no real valid reason for a delay) sets off massive alarm bells already. It's not exactly something that requires you to make lots of database queries and spend hours upon hours finding, is it?

3 days has passed but the cold wallet address is still no where to be seen. What is taking you so long?

Bug or something like it:
I betted at 71%, and it always gave me back 0,2 bits even if loss, now I cannot even call for faucet because it's not 0.

There is absolutely no reason that you should be waiting to provide your cold storage wallet, other than some fishy excuse. Why are you waiting a few days to do something that would take 30-60 seconds? That's unreasonable and the only thing I can think of is that you're planning to make a runner with the deposited BTC.

yeah doog thanks for repeating nico's points.



doog have you tried the 0% edge? site looks nice . they should come out will info / would get them more players

You have to be joking. Your system is among the worst I've seen. Imagine being a player on your site, and wanting to make 100 provably fair bets. How much work would they have to do? They would have to note 100 different server seed hashes, change their client seed 100 times, verify 100 server seed hashes, and verify 100 rolls. That's so much work that literally nobody is going to do it.

Compare that with a site like Just-Dice where each player gets a single pair of seeds (one server seed hash, one client seed). They make 100 bets, then chose to reveal the server seed and can verify all 100 bets with a single click.

For you to claim that your system is somehow better than that is beyond belief. No sane person could compare the too and find your to be better.

To address your 4 points:


1. if a site doesn't provide the server seed ever, then it isn't provably fair
2. if a site doesn't provide the server seed hash, then it isn't provably fair
3. if a site doesn't let the client set the client seed, then it isn't provably fair
4. publishing the server seed after you bet is the only time to publish it. if you publish it before, the player can cheat. but forcing it to be changed after every single bet makes verification too much work for the user. it's better to let the user decide when to change it.

As usual, NLNico's point were right, and I'm pretty much just repeating them.