Topic: [SCAM] BC Game closed account with my winnings! >$90.000 (Read 2237 times)

swaga 4/23/2023 10:59:15 AM    password changed

sanalexios 4/20/2023 5:02:23 PM    woke up

Fairly close dates. Alarm bells should have gone off when ghostingura2 joined the conversation

And his account got permanently locked after the payment, so even if he is not part of this cluster, I believe based on claim on the other thread [that he can replicate a bug] shows that he have other account, or perhaps he was just trying to stir the pot by making false statement.

I've asked BC to look into his details, see if they can reverse-check the details and fingerprints of his account to another ones on BC.

I am certain I just found another one of his accounts.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/sanalexios-3350189

Same pattern, account created in 2021, complaining about 1xbit until middle of September 2021 -> inactive until March 5th 2024 and creating a scam accusation thread against BC, unfortunately he got paid. 

I might understand what you try to say and point out by "cassino", but that's actually joana226's [poor] attempt to mislead people and convince them that his English is bad. Which quite ironic, because he just create an inconsistency with his previous narrative, that the posts made here were by the helps of google translate and chatGPT, and those two will not create such an error [unless OP deliberately edit the translation].

That word though, is not his writing quirk. As such, it is not shared between the accounts. 288 users use the word so far, and only Joana226 from the cluster use that typo, deliberately.

Yeh I did see that post - I'm sure you will agree sometimes it isn't the wallet address that trip up scammers, rather it's the pattern of their behaviour.


Ninja website had 52M uses - I may not have used their search function properly though.

Thank you for adding more context and actually adds the growing list of OP's inconsistencies.

OP, I take that you actually don't have any contact with a law firm, and Roeloef Bijkerk is another bluff, an attempt to threaten BC and keep them from performing the video verification, because you know you'll fail if you do, as well as to buy more time to get in touch with the unfortunate woman whose identity you use? Because if you have... I wonder why else you need a lawyer with no-win-no-pay basis when you already have one?

If Bijkerk is just a bluff, it ironically goes consistent with all of those slips you made, though. The "advise" that their PM [a written statement] has no weight, the sarcasm that can be used as a statement against yourself, the epic fail to record the damning evidence.

I wonder what will a lawyer think and say if they know someone uses their name without their permission, to cover your muddy traces... and to threaten "someone else", to say the least.

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I don't think swaga is their alt. The cluster and him have some differences; swaga is a script seller, while simpleghostingjoana is a pure gambler with a condition. I can't see this two background works together. Also, they don't seems to share a quirk.

[Side note: you might want to read this other quirk shared between simple-ghosting-joana that I found, amongst other, it kinda seal the connection between them three, IMO]

Via https://ninjastic.space/

ghostingura2



SimpleMachin34



Joana226



All three post in the week of the 28th of August then resume posting just recently.  (but they claim they are not alts)

Yeah I followed this thread as well.
It was strange he called it a scam when first of all he didn't lose any money and second it's just a bug in one of their original games.

The bug is reported now ( for quite some days now ) and hopefully they take care of it. They could do this a little faster though.

But I don't really think he is connected to this person here, but of course you never know. Might me just a small part in this smear campaign. Funny also that ghostingura2 aka OP also commented in this thread.

swaga https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/swaga-2819139 has started a thread about BC - I'm already getting a feeling they *might* be yet another alt attempting to created FUD against BC.

If I was you I wouldn't give any advise to some con artist like this. Makes no sense to even help this guy. He is a confirmed bitcointalk multi accounter with at least 4 accounts, all making scam accusations for different bc.game accounts. -> blackmail artist
I guess when they only scam other sites it's not so bad, but once they scam forum members everybody is screaming and pointing fingers.
He should have at least 5 tags right now, only for the multi accounts in here already. Yet people give him attention because they don't care to read his trust and this thread.

He is lying from beginning to the end and still there are people here not reading/seeing the full context. 

Yes, I received a PM from him and it's just a short one where he asked how to find those No Win No Fees law farms. I left him a response with my suggestions a few minutes ago before I discover your reply.

Interesting cherry picking, is it not? I raised so many points on my previous question, like the sudden drop of grammar, the existence of abbreviation through Google translate, your proficiency level, the real role of your son in the interview, the lawsuit you promised... ehm, threaten them that will loom over them, or... the extremely interesting similarities in error with ghostingura2 and SimpleMachin34, "aswell". Care to explain them all?


Figured that much, I assume he'll provide some misleading "facts" to high ranked and influential members in private to avoid people who's been following his cases from the beginning to correct those statements and provide a more accurate truth.

The OP has skipped past my post where I asked what he will do next after being made aware BC Game will not release this $90,000 he is claiming. They have disputed the identity of the account holder (and expressed other concerns) which made them arrive at that conclusion. As the OP is not willing to engage with me, I will unwatch this thread and no longer participate in discussion.

They (BC) won't and they don't have to answer any more questions from you.
All the facts are on the table, the jig is up, the fat lady has sung.

@ holydarkness: OP probably asked a high ranking member to defend his case in return for whatever. I had the exact same thought when I saw the "I sent you private message." post. Nobody would be stupid enough to actually do so.

By the way, funny how OP abandoned all his other scam accusation threads to focus on this one, hahaha.

Ah, and seems like his English has become better again over night. 
Please try to get a lawyer OP, they will laugh about this.

Ask BC to verify that and you will see their answer about it. Check if there is any pattern on those accounts you mention. In that case, why would I be complaining about USD 90000 only 5 months later? Any thesis about this aswell?

Yes I accept your challenge.

I'm revisiting this thread after having any news about my case that is my goal to resolve. BC didn't answer some pending questions aswell and I'm waiting for they to do it.

In my opinion, the lawsuit claim should never have been made unless he was really willing to do it. Clearly, he was calling their bluff and it did not work.

I can only state from experience that I do get very disappointed when reading claim about how the alleged victim of a current scam has wagered x$million on various casino/gaming sites yet they do not prove anything. Having said that, just because it could be proved someone has wagered $13 million it does not mean it provides evidence they are or are not telling the truth on this occasion.

The OP has the option to complain to the Curacao licence authority (if he has not already done it) but what I would like the OP is this now he is aware BC Game will not give him the $90,000 he is claiming, apart from posting here with his complaint what exactly will he do next?

He has made [or claimed to be] a plan to file a lawsuit against BC before he did the video call, the first one, refused to attend the video verification because the invitation was not [according to his lawyer] written formally in a way that has weight in court-room, somehow missing the fact that it actually did. He also said he'll make a recording of the session as part of evidence in court, in case BC played funny, which he also somehow did not. It strongly point to a possibility that the whole lawsuit thing is a threat just to scare BC to pay him without having to undergo the KYC, because he knew he'll lose if it got to the point of video verification.

In case you missed this, OP is a suspected prolific abuser and extortionist. He previously weaponized his "gambling addiction" to force Rollbit to pay him because their system failed to exclude his alt-account. Succeeded with that, he disposed the SimpleMachin34 account, made a complaint against BC under ghostingura2, for a missing bets, that when the case was paid by BC, escalated another one, on the very same thread, saying that he can't counter-bet because they took a little while to settle.

Upon further investigation and it's made known by AHOYBRAUSE that he's SimpleMachin34 with other account, and that he had a gambling addiction, he tried to pull a stunt requiring BC to take responsibility for not blocking him due to the addiction.

Simultaneously, he made this complaint with this account for this case, which BC found out that the KYC made for this account has no credibility and that the ID being used are very highly likely someone else's. Judging from his history, I am strongly believe he has several accounts in BC, got banned for one or two reason, and tried to use this account to circumvent it. The connection between Joana226, ghostingura2, and SimpleMachin34 are through the inconsistencies of English proficiency of Joana226, the attempt to mislead people by deliberately [and so abruptly] losing his grammar fluency, and the uncanny writing quirk shared between the accounts [please read my post number #167 and #170 on this thread, as well as post #704 on this thread].

In fact... has he sent you that PM? I believe it's roughly about him and his attempt to get a support and/or to twist yet another story?

OP, I challenged you, do you dare enough to give permission to BitcoinGirl.Club to publish what you wrote to him publicly?

I am sorry, I usually will not challenge someone to do such a violation to anyone's privacy and approach cases with level-headedness, but this particular user with his disgusting history across platforms really irk me.

I've been closely monitoring his account activity since my last post [and by closely, I mean really closely, several times every time I am online, coming back to his page right after every post I made] and I noticed he's never going back online upon realizing that his nefarious agenda failed miserably, that everybody can see through his facade, and that I kindly inform him that the more he post, the more I can learn about his writing style to help me identify his other account in future case. I believe he's been monitoring this thread as a guest or through his yet another account, and only jumped when he saw he get a chance to manipulate someone else... not knowing that the user he tried to manipulate is a seasoned user of the forum.

Thanks! I sent you private message.

If you are not happy with the decision then make a complain to BC's license provider. If you are not happy with the decision of the license provider then find a good lawyer, file a case against BC and their license provider. I think there are many law farm who works in the condition of no win no fee. $90,000 is a good amount of money to receive a good reward for your lawyer if they can win the case for you.

I can only speak for myself now, but I think the same applies to other people here with senior+ accounts:
You want to be able to represent the respective company you advertise with via your signature with a clear conscience. So if there is the slightest suspicion that, for example, a casino (or in the past, especially a mixer) is scamming customers, as a signature holder you take a very close look and, if the worst comes to the worst, you immediately take off your signature.

That's why many BC.Game signature holders also follow the thread here. If it turns out that BC.Game is actually cheating its customers, almost all participants would probably drop their signatures immediately. Thank goodness this is not the case and your attempt to accuse BC.Game of scam also failed.

For me, this was the last post in this thread, there is nothing more to say from my point of view.