Again, I have bought my Resolute piece from WoodCollector and i can tell that he is legit. He even wanted to do Golden in-lay. I saw all progress being made. Now if you idiots would stop this nonsense we can truly live in a better world.
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Again, I have bought my Resolute piece from WoodCollector and i can tell that he is legit. He even wanted to do Golden in-lay. I saw all progress being made. Now if you idiots would stop this nonsense we can truly live in a better world.
You could have made a video in the time you spent here flapping your gums about how proof isn't necessary and trying to get people promise to neg-rate me.
Nothing to see here but a scammer grasping at straws. Shame, because his laser etchings are really quite nice. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the video.
PROTIP FOR FORUM ENTREPRENEURS: this is a den of scams and your feet WILL be held to the flames if you smell funny. Don't try to misrepresent yourself and your business dealings!
Nothing to see here but a scammer grasping at straws. Shame, because his laser etchings are really quite nice. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the video.
PROTIP FOR FORUM ENTREPRENEURS: this is a den of scams and your feet WILL be held to the flames if you smell funny. Don't try to misrepresent yourself and your business dealings!
Yes, because wood carving is so easy that everyone can just whip out a masterpiece in an hour. Some of my clients have been waiting over a month to get something done. Nubbins, your going to lose on this one, and as soon as smoothie accepts my terms, you are going to have egg on your face. Not I. You could have handled yourself in a more professional manner.
Nubbins isn't even in DefaultTrust. The only person that matters is bigbitz, who left you negative trust and is in DefaultTrust. People can say whatever they like about anyone here, Vod is constantly accused of being a child molester without evidence by some pissed off scammer, you can't stop people saying stuff, let him say whatever he wants it only matters if people actually listen.
If Smoothie doesn't want to agree to such terms I will do it, I think your work is absolutely beautiful. You can use the cheapest wood or whatever, they still look amazing and I'd def want one.
As others said though, 3 pages of this was not useful and useless IMO, should just get that video going man.
As others said though, 3 pages of this was not useful and useless IMO, should just get that video going man.
There is 10,000% a reason to leave negative trust for him permanently for poor conduct on the forum.
I beg to differ. His doubts are reasonable and voiced in the "correct" way here in "Scam Accusations".If nubbins would have conducted himself in a professional manner, Contacted me with his questions, hell maybe eve a request for a small piece out of non exotic wood and a video of me carving it to settle his curiousit, i would have provided him with every bit of everything that all my clients already know and have.
Well, then where's your reason not to settle this right now, right here, once and for all?He deserves a million times to be scorned for acting in such a rude, unprofessional manner, it is antics like his that cause good people to leave the community when they are the ones providing the true blessings to this place.
It is people like him who have detected scams on this forum in the past and warned others about it, over and over again.It is not people like him. Hes doubting, so therefore he should not conclude anything. The title is misleading and not helping in any way. A better title would be: "Im wondering if WoodCollector is a geniune handscrafter".
It is people like Nubbins fucking up this community.
Again, I have bought my Resolute piece from WoodCollector and i can tell that he is legit. He even wanted to do Golden in-lay. I saw all progress being made. Now if you idiots would stop this nonsense we can truly live in a better world.
You could have made a video in the time you spent here flapping your gums about how proof isn't necessary and trying to get people promise to neg-rate me.
Nothing to see here but a scammer grasping at straws. Shame, because his laser etchings are really quite nice. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the video.
PROTIP FOR FORUM ENTREPRENEURS: this is a den of scams and your feet WILL be held to the flames if you smell funny. Don't try to misrepresent yourself and your business dealings!
Nothing to see here but a scammer grasping at straws. Shame, because his laser etchings are really quite nice. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the video.
PROTIP FOR FORUM ENTREPRENEURS: this is a den of scams and your feet WILL be held to the flames if you smell funny. Don't try to misrepresent yourself and your business dealings!
Yes, because wood carving is so easy that everyone can just whip out a masterpiece in an hour. Some of my clients have been waiting over a month to get something done. Nubbins, your going to lose on this one, and as soon as smoothie accepts my terms, you are going to have egg on your face. Not I. You could have handled yourself in a more professional manner.
EDIT: or is it that you missed the part where my clients have already publicly told you that your claims are false as they, as paying clients, have seen the proof already? Do you really want to keep whipping a dead horse? i have no problem putting this to bed, either once smoothie agrees to my terms, our you realize you made a mistake and fix it. I am a reasonable man, are you?
You could have made a video in the time you spent here flapping your gums about how proof isn't necessary and trying to get people promise to neg-rate me.
Nothing to see here but a scammer grasping at straws. Shame, because his laser etchings are really quite nice. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the video.
PROTIP FOR FORUM ENTREPRENEURS: this is a den of scams and your feet WILL be held to the flames if you smell funny. Don't try to misrepresent yourself and your business dealings!
Nothing to see here but a scammer grasping at straws. Shame, because his laser etchings are really quite nice. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the video.
PROTIP FOR FORUM ENTREPRENEURS: this is a den of scams and your feet WILL be held to the flames if you smell funny. Don't try to misrepresent yourself and your business dealings!
LOL, Sounds fun, if i do it and make a video of if will you buy it? Tell me what your budget is and i will do it and make a video of it for you.
Using a financial barrier as leverage to shift the burden of proof does not send the right message here. What you're saying is "pay me money so I can prove to the community I am not misrepresenting my work".You're still receiving orders for work, correct? You could just use an order at random. I was not suggesting you go out of your way for this.
I was suggesting that when you are going to work on your next ordered piece, just set up a camera and take a short video of one of the intricate carvings that you were accused of having misrepresented how the work is being done. I have no dog in this fight and I am not making any sort of accusations, I was merely suggesting a very effective way to put this to bed, forever.
I have no dog in this fight and no knowledge of wood carving whatsoever. I thought these pieces were beautiful. What makes me suspicious of them being hand crafted is the speed they were being produced.
I don't give a shit if this guy is legit or not because I would never buy an overpriced piece of wood in the first place, but I do know that when you are legit it is really easy to show people that. If it was me being accused instead of replying to every troll that leaves their oppinion I would simply show them proof of my legitimacy.
I keep laughing about how Bill Cosby gets accused of rape and his response is basically "Would a innocent man need to defend himself?" -- very crypto
I keep laughing about how Bill Cosby gets accused of rape and his response is basically "Would a innocent man need to defend himself?" -- very crypto
There is 10,000% a reason to leave negative trust for him permanently for poor conduct on the forum.
I beg to differ. His doubts are reasonable and voiced in the "correct" way here in "Scam Accusations".If nubbins would have conducted himself in a professional manner, Contacted me with his questions, hell maybe eve a request for a small piece out of non exotic wood and a video of me carving it to settle his curiousit, i would have provided him with every bit of everything that all my clients already know and have.
Well, then where's your reason not to settle this right now, right here, once and for all?He deserves a million times to be scorned for acting in such a rude, unprofessional manner, it is antics like his that cause good people to leave the community when they are the ones providing the true blessings to this place.
It is people like him who have detected scams on this forum in the past and warned others about it, over and over again.Those are my terms, they are agreed to by smoothie or not.
Sure, but should Smoothie agree, I might leave negative trust for him as well.Surrender to blackmail is something I would consider a breach of trust.
So, if you care about Smoothie, drop that request for negative feedback towards nubbins.
Smoothie, I 100% agree to this and will do a video of a piece specifically for you, free of charge pending a few conditions are met.
1: all this nonsense ends until i have a chance to get the video posted in a few days, i cant do anything if i have to sit behind this computer and keep arguing with kids.
How does this thread affect your ability to get to work?1: all this nonsense ends until i have a chance to get the video posted in a few days, i cant do anything if i have to sit behind this computer and keep arguing with kids.
Seriously though, if you really need to take a break from it, just don't go online for a few days.
3: You leave negative feedback on Nubbins trust rating PERMANENTLY for jumping to conclusions and making accusations without even bothering to contact me to see if i can prove what i claim before setting out on his public smearing campaign.
Now that's what I call uncalled for.Nubbins is trying to warn others, he's not after you.
There's no reason whatsoever for Smoothie to leave negative trust for him.
There is 10,000% a reason to leave negative trust for him permanently for poor conduct on the forum. As you can see by clicking here Every single one of my clients who requested knows beyond any shadow of a doubt their pieces are 100% legit as i provide them with everything along the way. He was just the first of my clients, Besides blazedout who already chimed in to log in today to set the record straight.
If nubbins would have conducted himself in a professional manner, Contacted me with his questions, hell maybe eve a request for a small piece out of non exotic wood and a video of me carving it to settle his curiousit, i would have provided him with every bit of everything that all my clients already know and have.
Instead he wants to lead a public smear campaign, start a "scam warning" thread when he has nothing to "warn" as his "proofs" are nothing more than self drawn conclusions that he is trying to market to the public to get them to believe. Further he wants to use his default trust status to smear my trust rating as a result of his ill drawn conclusions like they are fact.
He deserves a million times to be scorned for acting in such a rude, unprofessional manner, it is antics like his that cause good people to leave the community when they are the ones providing the true blessings to this place.
Those are my terms, they are agreed to by smoothie or not. If he agrees, then i do it for him, He does not, then i have 0 care in the world as EVERY SINGLE ONE of my clients who requested has been given every bit of proof along the way they wanted and as they log in EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM will tell you the same thing. If i have to jump through hoops on account of someone being reckless and unprofessional, then that person needs to suffer as well. If Nubbins wants to remove his trust rating, be done with and remove this smear campaign thread, and message me like a grown man in a professional manner LIKE HE SHOULD HAVE DONE IN THE FIRST PLACE, then i can directly put his mind at ease and provide him with what he wants. If not, then here we stand, Smoothie agrees to my terms, or i go on not caring. I came here to buy wood, not to argue with irrational people. This smear campaign is more annoying than it is damaging, every one of my clients knows better, and anyone who wants to commission a piece in the future, if i even continue to do pieces for this community in the future after i finish the ones that are already paid for can talk to my clients from here, and request the same step by step pics that all my other clients got.
SMOOTHIE, THE BALL IS IN YOUR COURT!, and only because you were very professional when you contacted me last time with your concerns and i have respect for that.
I commissioned 3 pieces and witnessed on all 3 of them the process of being made!!!
All 3 were drawn before and on all 3 were made changes by my request.
WoodCollector is such a nice person and takes a lot of time for his clients.
AND EVEN, if this pieces were carved by a laser... I would still love them and they would still be unique.
All 3 were drawn before and on all 3 were made changes by my request.
WoodCollector is such a nice person and takes a lot of time for his clients.
AND EVEN, if this pieces were carved by a laser... I would still love them and they would still be unique.
When I make my chainmaille jewellery is it not hand made because I didn't mine, smelt and coil the metal myself....
Nobody expects him to go out into the woods and cut down trees.But hand-carved is definitely not the same as "I used my hands to fire up the laser".
That last part gave me a chuckle.
I asked these similar questions a few months back when he first started posting.
When I got to the point that his work looked very similar to laser engraving the discussion quickly got pushed off to Skype or email which I never got around to.
@wood collector, take a camera and video tape an entire piece you have done at the same caliber of your previous pieces. Then fast forward it in a time lapse to show you actually did it with your hands.
To me your work does look laser engraved and not hand carved. Honest opinion.
Smoothie like i said, your entitled to your opinion and i never held it against you, I have messaged one of my clients and asked if he minds if i share a video of his piece being carved. i don't imagine he will have a problem with it, but you know as well as i do that is not going to stop the downward spiral here. It really dosnt stop until Nubbins gets tired of me and moves on to someone else. We see it all the time on this forum.
Assuming this piece is at the same caliber of detail of your other products you've posted and the video does prove you only used your hands to carve the piece (hand tools I presume) then I will support you on this.
Until then I have my doubts as I've expressed months ago when no one else had their doubts.
I will publicly apologize if my opinion of your work turns out to be wrong.
If you know anything about me on this forum is to do the exact same thing nubbins is doing...calling out what the believe is a scam until you are proven wrong. I see nothing wrong with what nubbins has done. If you have proof to make him look like a fool (i.e. wrong) in his assumptions then you should have no problem posting such evidence (i.e. the video).
Smoothie, I 100% agree to this and will do a video of a piece specifically for you, free of charge pending a few conditions are met.
1: all this nonsense ends until i have a chance to get the video posted in a few days, i cant do anything if i have to sit behind this computer and keep arguing with kids.
2: once the piece is done and the video is posted, you will send me a shipping address, even if its a drop address and write a full review of the piece including a public recantation of your accusations.
3: You leave negative feedback on Nubbins trust rating PERMANENTLY for jumping to conclusions and making accusations without even bothering to contact me to see if i can prove what i claim before setting out on his public smearing campaign.
The only reason i am agreeing to this for you is because previously when you had concerns you had the decency to contact me directly, ask your questions, and i assumed they were answered to satisfaction as you never said anything after. You had the respect and maturity to contact me directly before starting a public smearing campaign, and i do not believe that Nubbins should go up-punished for being so un-professional.
If you agree, please reply by quoting this post and including in the words "I AGREE TO YOUR TERMS" So i can reference it in the event i jump through these insane hoops and you do not hold up to your end of the deal.
Will PM you what I want done. Thank you!
How dense are you? He specifically made the offer to Smoothie, not you.
When I make my chainmaille jewellery is it not hand made because I didn't mine, smelt and coil the metal myself....
Nobody expects him to go out into the woods and cut down trees.But hand-carved is definitely not the same as "I used my hands to fire up the laser".
That last part gave me a chuckle.
I asked these similar questions a few months back when he first started posting.
When I got to the point that his work looked very similar to laser engraving the discussion quickly got pushed off to Skype or email which I never got around to.
@wood collector, take a camera and video tape an entire piece you have done at the same caliber of your previous pieces. Then fast forward it in a time lapse to show you actually did it with your hands.
To me your work does look laser engraved and not hand carved. Honest opinion.
Smoothie like i said, your entitled to your opinion and i never held it against you, I have messaged one of my clients and asked if he minds if i share a video of his piece being carved. i don't imagine he will have a problem with it, but you know as well as i do that is not going to stop the downward spiral here. It really dosnt stop until Nubbins gets tired of me and moves on to someone else. We see it all the time on this forum.
Assuming this piece is at the same caliber of detail of your other products you've posted and the video does prove you only used your hands to carve the piece (hand tools I presume) then I will support you on this.
Until then I have my doubts as I've expressed months ago when no one else had their doubts.
I will publicly apologize if my opinion of your work turns out to be wrong.
If you know anything about me on this forum is to do the exact same thing nubbins is doing...calling out what the believe is a scam until you are proven wrong. I see nothing wrong with what nubbins has done. If you have proof to make him look like a fool (i.e. wrong) in his assumptions then you should have no problem posting such evidence (i.e. the video).
Smoothie, I 100% agree to this and will do a video of a piece specifically for you, free of charge pending a few conditions are met.
1: all this nonsense ends until i have a chance to get the video posted in a few days, i cant do anything if i have to sit behind this computer and keep arguing with kids.
2: once the piece is done and the video is posted, you will send me a shipping address, even if its a drop address and write a full review of the piece including a public recantation of your accusations.
3: You leave negative feedback on Nubbins trust rating PERMANENTLY for jumping to conclusions and making accusations without even bothering to contact me to see if i can prove what i claim before setting out on his public smearing campaign.
The only reason i am agreeing to this for you is because previously when you had concerns you had the decency to contact me directly, ask your questions, and i assumed they were answered to satisfaction as you never said anything after. You had the respect and maturity to contact me directly before starting a public smearing campaign, and i do not believe that Nubbins should go up-punished for being so un-professional.
If you agree, please reply by quoting this post and including in the words "I AGREE TO YOUR TERMS" So i can reference it in the event i jump through these insane hoops and you do not hold up to your end of the deal.
Will PM you what I want done. Thank you!
Smoothie, I 100% agree to this and will do a video of a piece specifically for you, free of charge pending a few conditions are met.
1: all this nonsense ends until i have a chance to get the video posted in a few days, i cant do anything if i have to sit behind this computer and keep arguing with kids.
How does this thread affect your ability to get to work?1: all this nonsense ends until i have a chance to get the video posted in a few days, i cant do anything if i have to sit behind this computer and keep arguing with kids.
Seriously though, if you really need to take a break from it, just don't go online for a few days.
3: You leave negative feedback on Nubbins trust rating PERMANENTLY for jumping to conclusions and making accusations without even bothering to contact me to see if i can prove what i claim before setting out on his public smearing campaign.
Now that's what I call uncalled for.Nubbins is trying to warn others, he's not after you.
There's no reason whatsoever for Smoothie to leave negative trust for him.
Guys (and especially OP),
Honestly I would'nt have a problem with people suspecting something. Its not wrong to do that. However, what is wrong is that the title of this post is called: SCAM WARMING.
How do you know its a scam? Did you buy any piece from him? Are you a wood artist? Its very easy to point fingers and choose sides but it would be better to stay neutral. I'm sure if you asked a normal question about your doubts, there would be no problem at all.
I have paid and witnessed myself how he created my piece "Resolute":
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/resolute-115-physical-bitcoin-proof-of-ownership-927942
Along the way, I have witnessed all sketches and progress done. This is something I personally asked. If you order a piece, you can also choose the "surprise" route, in which he just crafts a beautifull piece and sends it to you without making progression pictures along the way. This guy is 100% legit. If he was not, I would not throw a 1000 EU against it.
Now if anyone feels cool enough to have further questions. Don't hesistate to PM me. However, this is a piece of art and it should stay that way. I am not going to ask progression pictures of the Mona Lisa either. It's not something art should be about.
Honestly I would'nt have a problem with people suspecting something. Its not wrong to do that. However, what is wrong is that the title of this post is called: SCAM WARMING.
How do you know its a scam? Did you buy any piece from him? Are you a wood artist? Its very easy to point fingers and choose sides but it would be better to stay neutral. I'm sure if you asked a normal question about your doubts, there would be no problem at all.
I have paid and witnessed myself how he created my piece "Resolute":
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/resolute-115-physical-bitcoin-proof-of-ownership-927942
Along the way, I have witnessed all sketches and progress done. This is something I personally asked. If you order a piece, you can also choose the "surprise" route, in which he just crafts a beautifull piece and sends it to you without making progression pictures along the way. This guy is 100% legit. If he was not, I would not throw a 1000 EU against it.
Now if anyone feels cool enough to have further questions. Don't hesistate to PM me. However, this is a piece of art and it should stay that way. I am not going to ask progression pictures of the Mona Lisa either. It's not something art should be about.
When I make my chainmaille jewellery is it not hand made because I didn't mine, smelt and coil the metal myself....
Nobody expects him to go out into the woods and cut down trees.But hand-carved is definitely not the same as "I used my hands to fire up the laser".
That last part gave me a chuckle.
I asked these similar questions a few months back when he first started posting.
When I got to the point that his work looked very similar to laser engraving the discussion quickly got pushed off to Skype or email which I never got around to.
@wood collector, take a camera and video tape an entire piece you have done at the same caliber of your previous pieces. Then fast forward it in a time lapse to show you actually did it with your hands.
To me your work does look laser engraved and not hand carved. Honest opinion.
Smoothie like i said, your entitled to your opinion and i never held it against you, I have messaged one of my clients and asked if he minds if i share a video of his piece being carved. i don't imagine he will have a problem with it, but you know as well as i do that is not going to stop the downward spiral here. It really dosnt stop until Nubbins gets tired of me and moves on to someone else. We see it all the time on this forum.
Assuming this piece is at the same caliber of detail of your other products you've posted and the video does prove you only used your hands to carve the piece (hand tools I presume) then I will support you on this.
Until then I have my doubts as I've expressed months ago when no one else had their doubts.
I will publicly apologize if my opinion of your work turns out to be wrong.
If you know anything about me on this forum is to do the exact same thing nubbins is doing...calling out what the believe is a scam until you are proven wrong. I see nothing wrong with what nubbins has done. If you have proof to make him look like a fool (i.e. wrong) in his assumptions then you should have no problem posting such evidence (i.e. the video).
Smoothie, I 100% agree to this and will do a video of a piece specifically for you, free of charge pending a few conditions are met.
1: all this nonsense ends until i have a chance to get the video posted in a few days, i cant do anything if i have to sit behind this computer and keep arguing with kids.
2: once the piece is done and the video is posted, you will send me a shipping address, even if its a drop address and write a full review of the piece including a public recantation of your accusations.
3: You leave negative feedback on Nubbins trust rating PERMANENTLY for jumping to conclusions and making accusations without even bothering to contact me to see if i can prove what i claim before setting out on his public smearing campaign.
The only reason i am agreeing to this for you is because previously when you had concerns you had the decency to contact me directly, ask your questions, and i assumed they were answered to satisfaction as you never said anything after. You had the respect and maturity to contact me directly before starting a public smearing campaign, and i do not believe that Nubbins should go up-punished for being so un-professional.
If you agree, please reply by quoting this post and including in the words "I AGREE TO YOUR TERMS" So i can reference it in the event i jump through these insane hoops and you do not hold up to your end of the deal.
such a bold move i love it
the one thing to ensure the reputation here is video + review from the person who accuse
Great move
i hope you carve a great masterpiece for smoothie
When I make my chainmaille jewellery is it not hand made because I didn't mine, smelt and coil the metal myself....
Nobody expects him to go out into the woods and cut down trees.But hand-carved is definitely not the same as "I used my hands to fire up the laser".
That last part gave me a chuckle.
I asked these similar questions a few months back when he first started posting.
When I got to the point that his work looked very similar to laser engraving the discussion quickly got pushed off to Skype or email which I never got around to.
@wood collector, take a camera and video tape an entire piece you have done at the same caliber of your previous pieces. Then fast forward it in a time lapse to show you actually did it with your hands.
To me your work does look laser engraved and not hand carved. Honest opinion.
Smoothie like i said, your entitled to your opinion and i never held it against you, I have messaged one of my clients and asked if he minds if i share a video of his piece being carved. i don't imagine he will have a problem with it, but you know as well as i do that is not going to stop the downward spiral here. It really dosnt stop until Nubbins gets tired of me and moves on to someone else. We see it all the time on this forum.
Assuming this piece is at the same caliber of detail of your other products you've posted and the video does prove you only used your hands to carve the piece (hand tools I presume) then I will support you on this.
Until then I have my doubts as I've expressed months ago when no one else had their doubts.
I will publicly apologize if my opinion of your work turns out to be wrong.
If you know anything about me on this forum is to do the exact same thing nubbins is doing...calling out what the believe is a scam until you are proven wrong. I see nothing wrong with what nubbins has done. If you have proof to make him look like a fool (i.e. wrong) in his assumptions then you should have no problem posting such evidence (i.e. the video).
Smoothie, I 100% agree to this and will do a video of a piece specifically for you, free of charge pending a few conditions are met.
1: all this nonsense ends until i have a chance to get the video posted in a few days, i cant do anything if i have to sit behind this computer and keep arguing with kids.
2: once the piece is done and the video is posted, you will send me a shipping address, even if its a drop address and write a full review of the piece including a public recantation of your accusations.
3: You leave negative feedback on Nubbins trust rating PERMANENTLY for jumping to conclusions and making accusations without even bothering to contact me to see if i can prove what i claim before setting out on his public smearing campaign.
The only reason i am agreeing to this for you is because previously when you had concerns you had the decency to contact me directly, ask your questions, and i assumed they were answered to satisfaction as you never said anything after. You had the respect and maturity to contact me directly before starting a public smearing campaign, and i do not believe that Nubbins should go up-punished for being so un-professional.
If you agree, please reply by quoting this post and including in the words "I AGREE TO YOUR TERMS" So i can reference it in the event i jump through these insane hoops and you do not hold up to your end of the deal.
A detailed clear video would show everyone you're the true artist that you claim to be.
Yet, for some vague reason i don't think there will be one...
Why does somebody have to purchase something from you before you're willing to show that person you're a legit skilled artist? Wouldn't it be better to show everyone, so they start buying your works?
Yet, for some vague reason i don't think there will be one...
Why does somebody have to purchase something from you before you're willing to show that person you're a legit skilled artist? Wouldn't it be better to show everyone, so they start buying your works?
There should be multiple videos of his work. At least one of which he claims exists. I am curious to see from start to finish of him hand-carving the entire piece and not just some of it.
A detailed clear video would show everyone you're the true artist that you claim to be.
Yet, for some vague reason i don't think there will be one...
Why does somebody have to purchase something from you before you're willing to show that person you're a legit skilled artist? Wouldn't it be better to show everyone, so they start buying your works?
Yet, for some vague reason i don't think there will be one...
Why does somebody have to purchase something from you before you're willing to show that person you're a legit skilled artist? Wouldn't it be better to show everyone, so they start buying your works?
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