Topic: Scientific proof that God exists? - page 162. (Read 845582 times)

Scientists have known forever that basic science law proves that God exists. Many scientists understand this. The others simply don't want to look at it. The scientific proof for God is written here:
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Scientist usually dont believe in god because they have explanations on things that occured. They like to explain it using scientific terms. But some of them connected the bible and their smart guess creating that GOD really exists.

Why is my answer not enough for you? Do your homework! The first cause is one that is self-existing and cannot be known in any way, this is called an Ultimate Religious Idea and it is marked Unknowable. Even though the answer is unknown, GOD has some actualities that validate his existence. On the other hand, there is ZERO evidence of a self-existing universe or any other self-existing thing!

not only that no current hypothesis is tenable, but also that no tenable hypothesis can be framed.

§11. Respecting the origin of the Universe three verbally intelligible suppositions may be made. We may assert that it is self-existent; or that it is self-created; or that it is created by an external agency. Which of these suppositions is most credible it is not needful here to inquire. The deeper question, into which this finally merges, is, whether any one of them is even conceivable in the true sense of the word. Let us successively test them...

http://www.constitution.org/hs/first_prin.htm

As it is year 2017 and we still talk about God than there is the one for sure because the word and its meaning would be changed for so many years.
There still exist Church and Mosque and Cathedral so it is a long run for something for does not exist?

You are posting but not doing research, that is not how these discussions work! Do your homework before you claim to know something, otherwise you are only promoting an opinion, I will now show you why your opinion is unreasonable by proving that your claims are unreliable.

Most magicians when they do this kind of thing, well you know that it’s all a show, however in Guy Bavli’s case he tells everyone it is real.

You gave me no reference to the specific tests so you did not even bother to do any work to make sure your opinion about these tests was accurate. You did not conduct a scientific criticism so I will naturally reject your unfounded claims about this phenomenon.
How is it that a mentalist can produce such a distinct and obviously mysterious illusion that also has a unique signature on the EEG? You don't have a clue about how your simple explanation applies in practice? How is Occam's Razor supposed to explain a phenomenon like that without TK? Why is it that the "fake/fraud/illusion" explanation quickly falls apart when faced with having to explain the mountains of evidence already posted here?

40 cases: http://www.aeces.info/Top40/top40-main.shtml
EEG of telekinesis in action: http://eegym.com/can-eeg-tell-if-telekinesis-is-a-magicians-trick-2/
Find the telekinesis video on your own: http://googl.com/#q=telekinesis+superhumans

What caused god?

Cause and effect exists in everything.
Essentially all scientists know about cause and effect.
We have no real evidence about how cause and effect started.
Cause and effect is essentially programming.

Study cause and effect. You have been caused to say the things that you say, just like I have been caused to say what I say.

The depth and scope of cause and effect within the universe is so great, that only God could have started it. Entropy shows that there was a start. Complexity shows the greatness of cause and effect, thereby showing the greatness of God. This is pure science, not religion at all.

what evidence?
I guess you have never seen a magician perform. (you very conveniently did not quote my reply to you that referred to magicians... I wonder why?)
Make stuff vanish... saw people in half etc.
they do all that spiritual stuff too, and TK to boot!

 only difference being
they do it a lot better ... and they tell you from the outset its ALL an illusion.

I get it you want to believe the spirituality and tk silliness.
I know it's far more fun believing  all that  woo woo shit actually exists.
Hell, I loved watching the Twilight Zone back in the day! (still do on netflix)

but at the end of the day
it's all just  a magician's illusion or a derivative thereof.(see Occam's razor )
Not a fraudster like Uri Geller who tried to convince the gullible it's not a trick.spoon bending rubbish and the like)
To put it in a nutshell...
There is no magic, woo woo, tk,esp, ufos, talking to the dead, bigfoot,
ghosts,horoscopes, flat earth (there ya go badecker, one we agree on!)  or invisible sky fairy etc etc etc.. ILL STAKE MY LIFE ON IT!
I put all that crap in one big box marked in capitals...  "TOTAL BULLSHIT NONSENSE FOR THE RATIONALLY CHALLENGED" !!
Get over it , be rational and live in the real world.  and BTW you best make the most of it
because this is your only life . No fantasy afterlife, no heaven or hell... (and quite frankly given a choice, if they did exist
I'd take the latter hands down... heaven sounds boring as shit but that devil character?.... sounds like a partying dude, lol)

.hey when's episode 25 anyway? (or is it 24? ..oh crap.. i lost count , damn i gotta stop drinkin!...........)

There's no proof, and also religion don't give us solid ones.

That problem with his argument is totally insignificant because ALL theories about origins involve self-existence. So you cannot avoid making that assumption somewhere in ANY theory. Please read Spencer and have some humility. Self-existence must exist but we humans cannot comprehend it. No one can expect to comprehend the self-existence of anything, this thread is about science but you refuse to talk evidence and instead press BADecker on your impossible question while refusing to acknowledge the related questions such as "why is it a self-existing cosmos and not NOTHING"?

And as you can see, he still doesn't answer the question proving my point LOL

Precisely what your non-God religion is doing to you.   

It's sad, but when talking about Islam it is not just sadness. It is a danger to people. All acts of terrorism committed by the Islamists who had heard this kind of preaching and become a zombie in the hands of the preachers. Therefore, religion is poison for the brain of the person.

As you can see, badecker, the religious nut cannot answer the question about why god is not affected by cause and effect yet again showing how he doesn't know anything, he just posts the links that he probably didn't even write and repeats it over and over because he can't think for himself. This is what religion does to you, it brainwashes you and it makes you stupid, religious people cannot critically think, it's sad.

Car keys?     

in broadest sense of the term "god" is definitely defined by me as: "god is anything that is missing"
and we are then in problem of how to introduce a secular god to the civilization and use its zillion
as a definition is also a kind of rule, well, then we have the solution: "exemption that confirms the rule"

I recommend studying Phoenix Journals to find out the natural explanation for what really happened and clarification on many subjects--the fact is that this Grandmother managed to write a 200-page book EVERY 3 WEEKS FOR YEARS, hundreds of books in total.  How was this prodigious output, covering such a wide range of topics, possible?  Please do not be too quick to reject the truthful answer, that she scribed DIRECTLY for our Heavenly Father, exactly as stated.  There probably has NEVER been a scribe so well connected — including all of the great ones acknowledged in all of the holy books.
This site is the official source of the written records of the evolution of God’s Plan for the New Millennium, from the beginning of the new calendar count in 1987 to the present.
http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com

Many of the greatest scientific minds believed in GOD.

Darwin also doubted human reason was reliable if it evolved through natural selection. This is a key point in the argument that materialism is not a rational philosophy. If you cannot trust human reason, then it is irrational to believe anything, including materialism. It is significant that Darwin's beliefs on this subject undermine materialism because Darwin's theory of natural selection was one of the most important ideas that led to materialism and philosophical naturalism being adopted by most scientists. When you consider that Darwin believed natural laws were designed, and he did not trust human reason if it arose through natural selection, you begin to see that exploiting Darwinian theory as foundation of materialism is a huge scam.

https://sites.google.com/site/chs4o8pt/eminent_researchers#researchers_darwin

god can not exist, it is anything that is missing, so if it is not missing it is not god ... nhhh ... but i work as a secular god and i am now confused .... do i miss to civilisation, or why can't i put myself in my definition of the god .... uf
probably i am trying to cheat the definition ... to be the secular god who is not missing ... sneak to the history, or so ....omg ... i have nobody to double cross so i do it to myself .. lol

I can definitely point you in the right direction if you are confused about causation:

I can ask a similar question: what came before the universe? Why something instead of nothing?
All theories regarding the origin of the universe imply self-existence, so all theories are literally inconceivable. Read Herbert Spencer's First Principles to learn more.