Topic: Seasteading (Read 26900 times)

Mark January 3rd, 2021 on your calendar as a huge milestone towards seasteading.

This is the day when the first offshore floating community opens its doors for full-time residents to move in.

If you haven’t already heard, our friends over at Ocean Builders have acquired a massive 777 passenger cabin cruise ship via their new spinoff company, Viva Vivas. They have named the ship the MS Satoshi and she will be arriving in her new home several miles off the coast of Panama City just before Christmas.
This Saturday at 1pm Eastern join me, Joe Quirk, for a live call with the ship's owner Chad Elwartowski from Viva Vivas and Grant Romundt from Ocean Builders to talk about what life will be like aboard the MS Satoshi.

Signup here to participate: https://oceanbuilders.com/signup

Chad and Grant will also present the never before shown masterplan for the community and you can ask any questions you might have.

Ocean Builders is celebrating the launch of the Satoshi by auctioning off the first 100 cabins. They are offering very special pricing for early pioneers. You can find out more here: https://ocean.builders/cruiseship/.

https://www.seasteading.org/

So, what do you think the definition of "seasteading" is? Perhaps the things you say are correct. But nobody who does those things alone, has said that he is seasteading. Certainly not Elwar.

Why not simply go to Wikipedia and talk a bunch of facts regarding stuff on the seas? That's all you are doing. You left a big bunch of info about what Elwar did, out of your description of what isn't seasteading. The fact that you didn't mention Elwar in what you said, shows you are simply blabbing some ideas... a thing that any blabber like you can do.


Since others have done it, why not Elwar? It's a business operation with a twist. Just because you are jealous of the fact that he is getting out there and doing something with his life, doesn't mean that you can't use him for a model, and make something out of your life besides a bunch of slanderous criticism and baseless accusations. Your drooling jealousy would cause you to bite yourself in the back of your neck if you could reach. If you act like you talk with friends and family, they have been gone long ago.


Didn't you ever hear of supply and demand? Don't you realize that if his stuff is overpriced that nobody will buy it? What does it matter to you if he fails because of overpricing or some other reason? Do you laugh at other people when they fail? Have you had so many failures in life that you need to get back at the world so that other people can feel hurt like you did? You really need to see a shrink.



Do you have any examples and evidence that Elwar is doing anybody wrong or harm? Come on. Let's see some actual facts from what he is doing and advertising.

This is kinda fun, isn't it? You attempt to tear people down, but don't have any evidence for most of what you say. So, it is easy to contradict you. But it doesn't matter, does it? It's all just blab, at least on your part. Are you honing your skills to become a better lobbyist?

sleeping in a bed for a week on a vessel. is not seasteading
sleeping a few nights on someone elses vessel does not make you a seasteader
if that vessel was designed for a aerospace/oil rig industry. and you are a guest and your motives are to garner investment and promising people liberties and freedoms and citizenship. but not actually having anything they can actually call their own lifetime home on the sea. and not even in a truly international waters. or even in a new recognised 'civilisation' created by you.. is not the seasteading promise you promote to garner investment

elwars latest project is basically tourist leased "overwater bungalows" just done using resin walls instead of wood
trying to get $10k a week from people.
its that simple

nothing new, nothing not tried before by thousands of others

by the way you can get established ones already for just $1.5k a week. so elwars group has stupidly and greedily outpriced themselves for the market
and he did not even pick up on that hint months ago when i called it out

i feel sorry for the locals in the area he proposes to make they vacation huts in. they want tourism but elwar wants to outprice it for the area and make it imposible for even the locals to afford to buy one and lease out for vacationers. thus he is doing a dis-service to even them, yet promising them soo soo much

This is a joke, nothing more.
The main idea is that any seasteading is a child's dream "here I will build a castle of boards and live in it!!!", but as soon as the hooligans come to destroy it, children run to their parents.

You forget that they didn't sink their sub intentionally. They weren't prepared. They weren't libertarian. Nor were they seasteading.

So that's what happened to that Russian submarine that just sank - it was a libertarian underwater boat!

The system under which parents live with regard to their children is different than the way they live with regard to other families.

If you want to sink your seastead, why collapse it? Just drill a few holes in the side of the underwater part. The idea of having an underwater seastead is one that has been thought of many times.

Hydroponics is being used for growing all kinds of plants. I haven't heard of growing broccoli or cauliflower with it. However, being on the ocean, seasteading has lots of water and fish, so it might be worth a try.

Most of the time, driving a boat (or submarine if you live in an ocean-bottom seastead) is called piloting the boat (or submarine).

Parents will violate the principle of non-aggression, collapse your house and drive to home to eat broccoli and cauliflower 

That's quite an idea you have. We'll need to ask Elwar if something like that is even a remote consideration. A seastead in the form of a courtyard with a castle in it for 5-y-o children.

You should really be more explicit. Most parents would like to be nearby their children. Would the parents have their own seastead? Or would they simply be living upstairs or down?

I noticed by the way that huge number of people in the crypto community have some wild bias towards libertarianism/anarcho-capitalism/anarchism. They think that if they gathered with friends put up three tents and now call themselves an INDEPENDENT COMMUNITY (lol) then no one will touch them. Sometimes it seems that such people are either joking or children 5 years old who built a castle in the courtyard of cardboard and no one broke it, which means (in their opinion) everything works in this world.

Thank you for saying that they did it. I mean, did the owner live on his own seastead? I don't really care who the owner is. Elwar and Nadia lived on the seastead. So, they did it. When you get all twisted up in what you say and think like that, how is anybody supposed to understand what you are even talking about?


Now you are trying to say that Elwar and Nadia didn't even live on the seastead. We have videos. Did they really fake those videos? Are those videos animated cartoon videos? Were they dead as they walked around on the seastead? You sound like you don't like Elwar for some reason. I don't even want to know why.


Lol! ... That's what I like about you, franky1. You are constantly in the brains of other people, knowing all about what they think. Are you some kind of super AI, that can determine from a person's few words, every possibility of what he might mean by his words, so that you absolutely know every thing that he thinks? Lol.

If you are really interested in buying a pod, aren't you going to go down to Panama and talk details with Elwar and the Ocean Builders company? I know. It's so easy to badmouth somebody for nothing. But you enjoy doing it, right?... maybe because it is easy to do, right?... and you like easy things, right?



Next time you want a car, don't go to a dealership and talk to the dealers about the benefits of the various vehicles. Rather, just go out and build you own car, thereby getting your own experience so you can find out what is factual. Lol.

franky1, you are such fun.

yep.
i said this years ago. he wanted communities that agreed on laws..
funny part is disagreements happen
he replied people can just move away
funny part is. his pods are stuck on poles moored to the sea floor
he had a argument with thai authorities and couldnt simple just move the pod.. he ran away instead

he then replied nonsense.. as he lost grasp of the idea, denying the initial idea was even a thing he was involved in

then he started a new project and hinted to the original plan
then he started another project thats just going to be tourist villa's at $10k a week

Any such experiment breaks down from this freedom for all. You built your community, then your neighbors came and captured you, enslaved you, or sold you to other neighbors. What will you do? "The FBI please help??»? All your libertarianism is based on the utopian idea of absolute freedom and is broken down by the oldest "right of the strong". I'm sorry but it's true.

I saw a tweet that Tesla plans to launch its rockets from a seastead in the future.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1272972228326379520


SpaceX is building floating, superheavy-class spaceports for Mars, moon & hypersonic travel around Earth


There will be close to shore I guess but should be massive and hopefully will make some research/development that will also help seasteaders.

I doubt it
On way forward would be to have operational Seaweed farms, have generating income other than tourism.
Ideally all food consumed daily should have a total potential renal (kidney) acid load of about -2.
Tried seaweed is on of the lowest values and a great way to archive a healthy balanced died.
Oysters, steamed

-----------------------------------	PRAL value mEq/100mg
Seaweed, dried	-24,7
Seaweed, pickled	-4,2
Seaweed, raw	-3,6
Seaweed,  with soy sauce	-2,2
.
Apple	-2
.
Oysters, canned	1,9
Jellyfish, pickled	3,3
Mackerel, salted	5,1
Clams, smoked, in oil	5,6
Lobster, cooked	7,7
Crab, hard shell, steamed	8,4
Salmon, baked or broiled	12,7
Sardines, canned in oil	15,9
Trout, smoked	18,8
Shrimp, dried	32,4
Squid, dried	35,5

The most alkaline I know of is Marmite/Vegemite...with -41.9   and dried or dehydrated Chives -50.6
The most acidic I know of is Cheese, (Parmesan) 20-34.2 and  Gelatin powder, dietetic, sweetened with low calorie sweetener, dry with a value of 55.1

Elwar. Does it pay to make a Seasteading altcoin to get seasteading moving faster?

Investment companies are the norm.
Thieves don't beg, either.
You absolutely need defending.
Right. It doesn't pay to defend you, though I try at times.

I see franky1 continues calling me a scammer.

Whichever, slander away if it makes you feel good about yourself.

Actions are what we rely on. I would certainly not encourage someone to buy a seapod without first coming down and seeing for yourself firsthand what we are doing here. As several people already have.

Anyone is welcome (once the lockdown is lifted).

ive never needed to beg using investment schemes to cover the costs of my vacations.
seems you are a scammer defender..
but hey that just makes you look bad

I can't tell you that Elwar doesn't lie. All people tell lies or twist the truth a little here and there. That being said...

What I CAN tell you is, in the same way you trust that other people have truly found a Covid-19 without doing the research yourself, so we all can see that Elwar was a seasteader.

Unless he screwed you personally, all your badmouthing of him is unethical. If he screwed you badly enough, pursue litigation in an international court of law. If he didn't screw you that bad, get over it. He's just a guy trying to start a business like many of us.

We have successes in life, and we have failures. But Elwar's successes are kinda dynamic. Looks like you are jealous.