Topic: Seasteading - page 2. (Read 26872 times)

in my life i have travelled to many countries. and lived in many different types of dwellings and experienced many cultures.
elwar couldnt even get his teeth fixed until recently

no jealousy at all. im just making people wary of certain things promoted by certain people, where what they say is full of flaws and limited knowledge

when elwar has to pull details about toilets from a blog post. and not from any business plan or specification sheet in the actual head quarters. where even then the blog post is non specific.. it shows how unprepared his promotion is

its like asking a real estate agent how many windows a house has and what type of windows. and they just pull out a blog post of random window types and say 'um we might just pick up whatever one we can find at a store.. we will find out later when we hire window experts'

kinda loses confidence that they even know much about building. let alone actually have a house to sell

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we already know by now that elwars ploy is the tourist vacation market. because thats what the locals that let them in the area want. they dont want a whole new community of outsiders living their permanently. as it will take their livelihoods away.. they want vacation spots where they can work on them.

but he still tries to subtly hint at the 'seasteading' (its your home on the sea). yet has priced it out of both markets before even thinking about the end user or even the living experience.

$10k a week. is a mega laugh even for las vegas prices

Of course Elwar did it. He went to the iron ore fields of northern Minnesota, ate iron ore for breakfast, lunch, and supper everyday for years, and pooped out the metal that he used to make the spar.


Since you don't really have any idea what living on a seastead is really like, you are jealous. Me franky1. Me good. Me very good. Me better than everyone. Me so good that everyone else bad. This why I flap duck bill so much.

he and nadia didnt 'do it' they were in their own words just guests on someone elses floating pod

infact in the time from its first night at sea to the night they fled. they didnt even stay there that much in between. so it was not really even a trial of a living experience.

take those training for mars missions. they actually stay in a 'biodome' for months. to work out if they can survive(mentally and physicallly) and what is actually needed to make it a effective living experience.
all in all they just had a free vacation bed to sleep in.

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here is one thing. elwar has not identified how hard it is to actually supply a pod. after all knowing he might have to travel many dozens of miles round trip would require extra refrigeration. and also stockpiles of spare clothing/bedsheets and other things. just incase you cant get to shore for resupply.
he has not even thought about those basics.

yet even a idiot during this pandemic should realise the issues that occur when suddenly travel and access to certain stores can become less available.

anyway
there are thousands of people around the world that live on floating homes. thousands that live on moored dwellings in the water. heck many live on oil refineries.. and there is even things like freeland and other things.
elwar has not invented anything new. infact he isnt the inventor. and while trying to flip flip in and out of his inability to decide if he is a project manager or salesman. he fails at both.

even elwar has said he didnt invent it and is not the ceo. yet your lack of ability to grasp reality is still struck by the 'wannabe influencer' fangirling mindset

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the reasons i make these posts is to make people wary of the pitfulls of certain things. because its become obvious that there is too much glossing over the details.
and in my opinion no one should be handing any money via elwar. he will just spend it on vacations but declare it as 'research'

if anyone is interested in sea steading. bypass elwar and actually investigate and research those actually doing it.who are not obsessed with grabbing money before even a prototype is made

The point is that it isn't like building a house. Building a seastead doesn't have anything to do with this thread. That's not what this thread is for, nor any of the others that Elwar posts in.

You might find a thread in this forum somewhere, where a draftsman actually designed a house for someone in detail. But I doubt it. And such isn't what Elwar was doing. All he was doing was answering some general questions, and giving folks some general ideas.

Elwar is probably the best guy for seasteading. He's approximately the only person along with Nadia to have ever done it out in the ocean. If there are others, they are very few. Elwar's experience is beyond just about anybody else.

Then, when you consider that he and Nadia gave the whole Thai nation the slip, I'd say that their practical life experience is far beyond most. He says it; he does it. He has proven it, even in the face of danger.

If you and I want to go out and by new cars, you would absolutely select a different dealership than I would. But badmouthing a dealer (rather than the car) who is showing you his line of cars, is ridiculous. That's all that Elwar is doing... showing you his line of seasteads that he is starting to design.

But there you go badmouthing him every chance you get because he doesn't have his designs completed for you, yet.

If you are really like this in real life, no wonder the UK is going down the tubes. Stay over there. We don't need any garbage like you over here... even if you ARE right about Elwar being some kind of crook.

I'll give you one big piece of credit, though. You have your way set, and you stick to it. You maintain your honor and integrity, even though it is rooted in almost pure, unadulterated garbage. Somebody else would have drowned long ago, trying to maintain garbage like yours.

point is. its like building a house
architects actually design the house by knowing the plumbing arrangements and fitting the room space round it

work out wall cavity space and size of rooms and stuff

its the basics like will it be a combined toilet and shower room, would it have a bath. will there be enough room to dry off without kneeing the toilet when you get out the shower
 is it going to be a toilet that pipes out to a separate container or would it be a 'portapotty' that just rolls in and out of the bathroom each time it needs to be emptied

its not just these details needed to design the layout. its also considering the guest experience.
EG
incinerator based sewerage treatment
'hey honey have you burned the toast..
.no dear thats just my turd on the smoker. doesnt it smell pleasant'

you do know that when realters make new homes they do a show home. and then people buy new builds based on the show home
you do know manufacturers make a prototype and then (AFTER) people invest into the company/buy the product

heck even people doing kick starters know to atleast make a prototype and show it works before asking to mega money.
heck asking for timeshare income before they even know the basics.. now thats just very bad/shady business.
especially when he didnt even have the 'experts' hired yet

but it is funny how elwar cannot even make a definitive decision. even after 10 years of time in his supposed 'R&D' exploits of seeking funding for projects

as i said ages ago.
maybe ocean builders might find someone with experience and actual project managing knowhow. but it sure as hell aint elwar. he is a money and waste it kid of guy. loves going on vacation and try getting it as a tax writeoff by calling it R&D yet never shows results

im all for a proper seastead project but elwar just isnt really appearing to be the guy that should be involved. is actual history has done him no favours

Well, what's he supposed to say? I mean, if he is going to walk 20 feet to the door, is he supposed to measure his feet and express exactly the places where his feet will land on the floor... express it in thousandths of a millimeter?

Can't you get it through your head that their plans aren't finalized? Can't you even see that there are loads of options out there? Is it too difficult for you to even understand that his last paragraph says that they will be attempting to revolutionize the industry, but that to start with... "We will likely buy off the shelf products for our first few models..."

Don't you even realize that when he talks about "off the shelf" products, that it doesn't mean he will mount your toilet on a shelf where it might fall off?

Do you have a crystal ball that predicts any future? Why do you pick on Elwar because he doesn't. Get a grip, man (Sorry about that if you are a woman. I mean, REALLY sorry about it if you are a woman.).

Can't you even see that they are working on the project? How do you know that he doesn't have a few samples from a bunch of different companies sitting around? But if he doesn't, their catalogs that have descriptions are easily enough to start with. Do you think he never considered these?

If somebody wants to plunk down a little money without getting any details about what he is buying, isn't it up to that person? If you have to get a turd-counting toilet before you plunk some money down, don't plunk it down until you get what you want. All you are planning to do, anyway, is throw your money down the toilet, right? If you don't like it, don't do it... ah, unless you really want to.

Don't you see that all you are trying to do is take a bunch of people's freedom away, and then blame Elwar for it?

Are we having fun yet?

elwar didnt anwer it. he gave a bullet point list of possibilities
he even said (future tense) how they would probably buy off the shelf stuff

by not even making a decision nor having the actual 'off the shelf' item in their possession doesnt help with them designing an end product to fit around it.
also (future tense) is to have experts

so again. no plan. no prep. no answers. but just a big $10k a week pricetag
his 10 years in the sector and he cant even pick a toilet.
funny that
lets hope he doesnt build a brick house on land. or it will take 15 years just to decide on the kitchen tiles. and yet will be trying to sell the house before even laying the bricks

EG

You asked Elwar a question about sewage. He answered you with the stuff that is used on boats already... standard methods of taking care of it.

You seemed to ignore what he said, and went right into condemning him for not checking into how to handle the sewage. So, he repeated his answer about boat sewage in more detail, and added a few of his own ideas.

You ignored his answer again, so he stopped talking to you, because you are simply an ignoramus... as shown by the way you ignore things.

whats that. is it a fish, is it a squid. nope its a turd

by the way. turds do not attract fish.. its why you dont see fish in dirty sewerage rivers

Just because you tried it and failed, doesn't mean you always have to badmouth others who are succeeding.

You don't understand, do you, that a little sewage around the seastead, will attract all kinds of colorful fish that you can video for making money on Youtube, do you.

dont mistake a grammar nazi(linguist) for a smart person. if the only rebuttal they can make is the linguistic usage of words. but fail to rebuttal the context of the message, then they already lost.

in business having a working prototype is crucial because you have atleast learned the manufacturing process. practised it. trained a team up. worked out basic costs and found all the pitfuls of regulation and building standard requirements.

selling a graphic design model and selling it for $10k a week before you have even made a single thing.. well thats just bad business.
its like selling a new KFC recipe before even bothering to know which herbs work best together or what cooking process/temperature cook it best. just having a image of chicken wont sell many meals

i have questioned elwar many times about how utility supply and sewerage treatment would be handled on all his 'projects' these are things that are normally planned in even at the graphic design stage. you know working out the dimensions of the pod to make sure everything fits and is accessible and ofcourse maintainable.

gotta love one of his responses to just dump the sewerage in the water
imagine it couple paying $10k for what they hope is a paradise vacation in clear exotic waters
'hey babe lets jump off the deck and dive into the water...'
'best not honey leave it a few hours i just flushed the toilet, that curry last night played hell on my bowels'

its the little things like understanding the niche he set himself in of $10k a week. and not understanding the experience that those type of people would expect.
i definetly wouldnt go to las vegas penthouse and want to see a turd in the pool. nor would i want to have to drain out my waste into a large container carry it to reception to dispose of

take for instance 3D printing the outer shell. what he doesnt realise is by not using panels. maintenance will be a kick in the teeth. its like making a new road surface. it looks pretty when new. but when you have to then rip it apart to get to the pipes underneath its a pain.
imagine storm damage, having to take the whole shell off and replacing it.

i can pick many more faults and things elwar has missed. but i dont want to give him idea's i just wanna see if he learns the hard way. or keeps tripping up on himself

He really isn't that smart. Don't mistake a trained parrot for a linguist.

Of course, F-1 takes so many things out of context, that he really contradicts himself all the time. But that isn't the important part. The thing that is important is that people are catching on to this. And when they catch on, they go back to check what the truth is.

F-1 is actually advertising for other people, through the things he says against them. And when I point this out, I am actually advertising for franky1 to do more of his advertising in favor of the things he is against, as he is doing all the time anyway.

F-1 almost can't hold himself back. He just has to get out there and advertise for his opponents... all the time. Don't we just love it? Now he is coming right out and saying "fact check," so you find out for yourself how goofy he is.

So, I am a little puzzled. He is smart enough to bring up all kinds of points. And he is a bit organized in his using of them against other people. And he knows (way down deep) that people will see through him. Is he really against the stuff he talks like he is in favor of? Or is he really, knowingly covertly supporting the things he seems to be against? Or is he simply mixed-up funny farm material?

i do well with my business/income. i just don't need to suck up to people to try plying money out of them pretending things are X when they are actually Y. so i dont need to advertise myself

just because he has a face on youtube does not mean people should just blindly throw money at him.
years ago he asked for millions.. to buy a boat.. turned out that the boat only had a few dozen bedrooms meaning the amount of people he seeked investment from wouldnt even get a room for a single night. yet promised sanctuary and new citizenship. oh yea the boat was actually later said to be a HQ for the project to have meetings on. .. they could have hired an office for thousands, not millions.. which shows their money management lacks many things.

but yea pretending the thai seapod was 100% a seastead project. then backtrack it was not and they just guests on a aerospace project.. then now in latest video back to saying it was a 'ocean builders' project.
it makes me laugh
.. especially how elwar told me to not mix up the projects and treat them as separate projects.. but he himself is mixing them together.
yea i know when things go wrong elwar wants to step away from a project to avoid the consequences of that failure.. but he is very quick to just repeat the same scheme again. as if he hasnt learned from the last one


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personally i am all for making new homes and even new communities.. but when scammers want to charge $10k for just a week share. just shows the greed
yes his latest project is for vacation homes for the rich. to try driving up tourism of a certain area. but when he whispers the whole 'independent state' of no laws/freedom.. he keeps leaping in and out of things that cant be offered. .. seems even he cant find and stick to the niche, and is just trying to grab as much scope as possible by promising many things to many communities

Hey Franky, send me a link to the documentary about you. Oh right there isn't one because you are an inconsequential twat.

gotta have a chuckle.
now elwar is back to saying that the thai pod was part of seasteading

a. seasteading.
b. no just a project where i was invited as a guest to stay in a pod for aerospace projects. not seastead
c. its a ocean builders seastead project
d. no dont confuse the projects its a previous unrelated project
e. no its a ocean builders seastead project

funny really. a project manager that lies about his projects or doesnt even know what his projects are

so fact check time. was it a pod designed for a project related to aerospace or seasteading.
elwar no more flip flopping. just find one narrative and stick with it.. which is it

So, Thailand finally is shown to be the country of slavery that it really is.


THE FIRST SEASTEADERS 8: “Today is D-Day for The Thai Navy”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYgy88-HI8I

Thanks, Elwar.     

CV is making things a little difficult here in Panama but we started preparing for it ahead of time.

We pour our concrete floor this Saturday so we will be waiting on that for a month anyway so we can let the workers have their breaks and stay home as Panama is recommending. Not sure if they'll allow the pour though. Should have done it yesterday.
I have a video update here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5Mz9bqVhS4

Had to send 2 Americans home yesterday before they close the airports tomorrow.

Hey, Elwar. Is CV in Panama interrupting anything in your Seasteading business?

Elwar?

Are you there Elwar?



Do you think CV got him?