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Topic: Should Ratimov aka Symmetrick be in DT1? - page 13. (Read 9821 times)

legendary
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November 10, 2023, 10:56:14 AM
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To verify Ratimov's plagiarism claim, I checked the unedited post, and unlike someone who would post a small link at the end of his long copied topic, NotATether started his topic by giving credit.

Not sure where he got that idea, the credit given by NotATether was more than sufficient and clear to anyone reading the thread, or... why he choose to take that thread into his own hand and make a fuss about it, where some other --one might argue-- more demanding topics are in danger needs of his attention.
legendary
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November 10, 2023, 10:18:37 AM
To verify Ratimov's plagiarism claim, I checked the unedited post, and unlike someone who would post a small link at the end of his long copied topic, NotATether started his topic by giving credit.

According to Ratimov's own "if it doesn't break the rules then it's fine even if it's unethical" approach, it'd be perfectly fine to not have a reference at all. Since the original thread doesn't exist, NotATether probably wouldn't get banned for plagiarism. Except sane users like NotATether aren't hell bent on bending the rules.

I know I shouldn't be surprised at the depths of petulance Ratimov can sink to... but I'm still surprised. I mean, he deleted the thread, why does he care if someone doesn't praise his "design" or whatever he's complaining about there.
legendary
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November 10, 2023, 09:23:00 AM
This is too ironic to not touch this subject: here, Ratimov is complaining about incorrect quotes of his "original data":

It's even more ironic that he published his original post with all the data, I guess he couldn't bear for someone else to take credit for publishing some kind of link collection.

I have a proposal for NotATether. As I already have a certain collection of these and similar services prepared for one website, I can start a new thread with a structure and design not related to Ratimov's previous work. I need two or three days to put it together and check its relevance, and in a longer period I will deal with such topics, so there should not be any complications regarding the update.
legendary
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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
November 10, 2023, 08:45:45 AM
This topic will not be one about Ratimov's plagiarism, although this subject will be touched
This is too ironic to not touch this subject: here, Ratimov is complaining about incorrect quotes of his "original data":
If I deleted this topic, this does not mean that anyone can now freely copy it and pass it off as their own work. You didn’t even ask me about running my own topic with my original data instead of me, you thought that you could freely dispose of this format and pass it off as your own, hiding behind some fucking link.

If I had done this and opened a similar topic, then the assholes would have been squealing on the forum, saying what a copy-pastor and thief Ratimov is, but when others do this, then there is nothing wrong with it, if he wanted to, he did it.

You present this information as if you are the author of this design and you collected this information and presented it in this way. Although in fact you didn’t do anything here, you just copied it without asking.

Here you are all playing inspectors and teaching people how to correctly format someone else’s text, although you yourself still need to be taught. If you took someone else’s finished material without permission, then it must be formatted like this:

Quote from: Ratimov's deleted thread
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Or another option, if you wrote in the topic that all the previously collected material belongs to Ratimov, as well as the design style and presentation form, and you just decided to revive the deleted topic and continued to lead it, then I would pass by and not say anything as a reproach to you.

To verify Ratimov's plagiarism claim, I checked the unedited post, and unlike someone who would post a small link at the end of his long copied topic, NotATether started his topic by giving credit.
legendary
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November 09, 2023, 01:49:53 AM

He is acting like, okay, you guys ruined my reputation? I won't let you guys benefit from my articles. Newbies did nothing against him. Newbies do not even dare to speak against him. Or he could be frustrated with them because he helped many of them but not a single newbie speaks for him, so he is deleting newbie guides.

Guess where newbies got the habit of discovering new topics everywhere? This habit continues to this day, only creating an understanding that all newcomers are not who they say they are. The reason is that the user who is deleting topics today also noted newbies and gave them the first merits. There was information somewhere that Ratimov competed with someone to help newcomers and was the first. This is not bad in theory, but there have been cases when posts with plagiarism were awarded merit.
That is why today you can write about beginners something absolutely true.
hero member
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November 09, 2023, 01:23:27 AM
Has anyone noticed that he started removing content from his many LIST/Collection threads? This time it does not delete them or anything like that, but only removes the content. Looks like another revenge against the forum bastards.  Roll Eyes

few examples
[HUGE LIST] Useful Crypto Links !!!
No-KYC Exchange Encyclopedia Still exist on his local board
[BIG LIST] DeFi Projects & Tokens

It seems he is digging it further. I am curious if he is doing these odd things, knowing that it will make him worse in front of the community; it shows he did nothing for the benefit of the community. He did all these things to lure merits he already earned, and those threads have no purpose now. I do not see any reason for removing them except what I have said.

He is acting like, okay, you guys ruined my reputation? I won't let you guys benefit from my articles. Newbies did nothing against him. Newbies do not even dare to speak against him. Or he could be frustrated with them because he helped many of them but not a single newbie speaks for him, so he is deleting newbie guides.
legendary
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November 08, 2023, 07:25:40 PM
I have taken note of all the information provided.

legendary
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November 08, 2023, 12:09:02 PM
Someone could quote an old archived version, and post it into a new post Wink

Someone could repost all Ratimov's topic but start them all with this introduction: "In this article I would like to touch upon such a theme [...]".

How would that be?



Has anyone noticed that he started removing content from his many LIST/Collection threads? This time it does not delete them or anything like that, but only removes the content. Looks like another revenge against the forum bastards.  Roll Eyes

I noticed that he keeps deleting posts and I also made a mention earlier:

it seems that he did not delete only the 78 topics found by LV, but many other posts, in his futile attempt to hide his plagiarism.

For instance, this post:

Quoting for historical reference and take a look at messages at numbers 33, 101, 108, 115.
Here, really original content, maybe 10%, the rest is all a copy-paste of finished materials or partial use of someone else's material.

quoted by me in OP and quoted also years ago by airfinex in the topic where he exposed Ratimov's plagiarism -- is now gone.

The post was there before but he deleted it too, thus those not knowing about ninjastic.space will never see this statement where he admitted clearly that he plagiarizes 90% of what he wrote. Most likely, he deleted other incriminatory posts as well.

In fact, he deleted all his posts from the topic started by airfinex.

For those not aware, the topic is full of examples of plagiarism made by Ratimov and also of examples given by wooI_Ioow, exposing how Ratimov was breaking rule 27 (Using automated translation tools to post translated content in Local boards is not allowed) by copy-pasting articles and translating them with Google Translate in Russian board ([1], [2], [3], [4]).

I am almost sure he deleted all his posts starting with "In this article I would like to touch upon such a theme [...]".



I also want to salute philipma1957's decision to distrust Ratimov. Surprisingly, zasad@ did the same. Synchronice took a similar decision.

Day after day more and more people open their eyes about this imposter and day after day, those which were afraid of him now react towards the years of abuses Ratimov made.



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Zuzma, have you considered presenting this topic in Russian local board?
legendary
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November 08, 2023, 12:06:33 PM
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Well, again you can’t answer my questions. This perfectly demonstrates that you have no evidence for your words. You only have old grievances against Ratimov. By the way, if I'm not mistaken, you made peace with him))))
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November 08, 2023, 11:30:24 AM

3. Don't you think that saying that Russian-speaking moderators cover for Ratimov without any evidence is slander?



"You're just thinking wishfully" Wink

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legendary
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November 08, 2023, 10:50:38 AM
If the moderation understands that they are useful the OPs could be restored
Some forums would indeed do that, but I don't think that's going to happen here:
he can't delete the topics, so he's editing them to be "blank". This is common and allowed.

Someone could quote an old archived version, and post it into a new post Wink
legendary
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November 08, 2023, 10:27:57 AM
Has anyone noticed the only response that Ratimov made on this thread was also deleted?

Has anyone noticed that he started removing content from his many LIST/Collection threads? This time it does not delete them or anything like that, but only removes the content. Looks like another revenge against the forum bastards.  Roll Eyes

few examples
[HUGE LIST] Useful Crypto Links !!!
No-KYC Exchange Encyclopedia Still exist on his local board
[BIG LIST] DeFi Projects & Tokens

I hesitate whether to report those threads because there is no point in keeping them without the OP. If the moderation understands that they are useful the OPs could be restored and the threads locked.

What is clear to me is that having a big ego does not help in general in life and in the forum we have seen other cases that usually do not end well. Some quite intelligent people with big ego we could cite nullius for example although there are several more similar cases that did not end well.

I'm not sure how the campaign managers will look at this behaviour, I believe that the opening of a large number of "useful" topics is one of the reasons why he is accepted in higher-quality paid campaigns.

Well, if it's just a few it's not the same as the tantrum being such that it leads to a mass deletion of OPs.
legendary
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November 08, 2023, 10:24:16 AM

I'm not going to argue with you or prove anything to you. I have my own independent opinion about everything that is happening.

If it weren’t for people like Ratimov with his endless zeal to clear the forum from all sorts of abusers, the forum would have long ago turned into a kind of dump where people with 10-20 accounts communicate, who communicate with each other only for the sake of profit. At least in the Russian-speaking locale such farms have been identified.

You still haven’t answered my question - which of the useful members of the forum left because of him, and I’m sure you’ll never answer, because... in fact, most of the useful members of the forum left before he registered on the forum, and the reason is not his fault, but the signature campaigns, which led to the cluttering of the forum with meaningless posts.

the forum existed perfectly well before Ratimov came here Wink

I will leave the opportunity for people who, like me, have not yet forgotten about the existence of this forum, to speak out for themselves regarding its actions. If you undertake to cover for this person, then act more carefully.

I'm not going to cover for anyone. Your words initially sound offensive to me because in order to accuse someone you need to have solid evidence of it. So far I haven't seen anything more than insults and conjecture in this thread. If someone doesn't like the way he posts he can just add him to ignore.

1. Don't you think that saying that I am covering for Ratimov is slander?

2. Does anyone have hard evidence that Ratimov was plagiarizing?

3. Don't you think that saying that Russian-speaking moderators cover for Ratimov without any evidence is slander?

For all these actions you can quite realistically get a negative feedback, with proof in the form of attached archive on this topic and it will be on all recommendations of the administrator of this forum.
legendary
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November 08, 2023, 08:07:38 AM
Has anyone noticed the only response that Ratimov made on this thread was also deleted?

Has anyone noticed that he started removing content from his many LIST/Collection threads? This time it does not delete them or anything like that, but only removes the content. Looks like another revenge against the forum bastards.  Roll Eyes

few examples
[HUGE LIST] Useful Crypto Links !!!
No-KYC Exchange Encyclopedia Still exist on his local board
[BIG LIST] DeFi Projects & Tokens

I'm not sure how the campaign managers will look at this behaviour, I believe that the opening of a large number of "useful" topics is one of the reasons why he is accepted in higher-quality paid campaigns.

legendary
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November 08, 2023, 07:21:19 AM
No, it matters what actions we are taking. I am understanding the importance of trust system on this forum, it was a mistake from me to include others without thinking twice about it, that will be fixed. There is no one in my trust list at the moment, so, I removed him too.
What I mean is I can not force anyone to add or remove someone in their trust list. A trust list is a personal belonging to a forum member. As a community member we can pass the correct information. My suggestion to you still remains, learn the system before using it and this way you will be using it correctly.
hero member
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November 08, 2023, 07:19:09 AM
Has anyone noticed the only response that Ratimov made on this thread was also deleted?
Archive link: https://ninjastic.space/post/63039745

His start was nice though, the card of playing a victim. It's a long post but here was the start.

Not entirely correct. If you check the archived version, https://ninjastic.space/topic/5468454 he made a couple of responses but then he started to delete those responses once others started posting. He deleted his replies from this thread even before he started deleting his self-moderated threads.

@TryNinja, we need the next version of Ninjastic.space where we can copy the BBcode of an archive. Is it doable?

I need this too. If someone deletes their post, we cannot quote them anymore. Even we cannot get the BBCode version of our own post once it's get deleted. Nice suggestion BitcoinGirl.Club
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November 08, 2023, 06:28:04 AM

I'm not going to argue with you or prove anything to you. I have my own independent opinion about everything that is happening.

If it weren’t for people like Ratimov with his endless zeal to clear the forum from all sorts of abusers, the forum would have long ago turned into a kind of dump where people with 10-20 accounts communicate, who communicate with each other only for the sake of profit. At least in the Russian-speaking locale such farms have been identified.

You still haven’t answered my question - which of the useful members of the forum left because of him, and I’m sure you’ll never answer, because... in fact, most of the useful members of the forum left before he registered on the forum, and the reason is not his fault, but the signature campaigns, which led to the cluttering of the forum with meaningless posts.

the forum existed perfectly well before Ratimov came here Wink

I will leave the opportunity for people who, like me, have not yet forgotten about the existence of this forum, to speak out for themselves regarding its actions. If you undertake to cover for this person, then act more carefully.
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November 08, 2023, 06:12:18 AM
Of course, it would be interesting to get acquainted with Ratimov’s point of view on this matter.
Do you think he was silent here? He tried his best and then he left this thread by deleting all the responses. So better start reading from ninjastic https://ninjastic.space/topic/5468454
What a terrible language is used in those quotes. Not something that adult should do, nor even a kid should do that, not even a sane person should ever do that! I read the topic and GazetaBitcoin is right, this man needs to mature and control his emotions before being included in trust list.

Synchronice, madnessteat nice to see some words from you. It does not matter what action you are taking but reading the main topic is important for the people who are trusting Ratimov and thinking he is doing great for the Default trust network. You have him in your list and you deserve to know right information. I would love to see more responses from the above users who still are waiting to write their words.

Thank you.
No, it matters what actions we are taking. I am understanding the importance of trust system on this forum, it was a mistake from me to include others without thinking twice about it, that will be fixed. There is no one in my trust list at the moment, so, I removed him too.
legendary
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November 08, 2023, 05:49:56 AM

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Nuclear energy in itself is not good or evil. Only in the hands of a person does it become one thing or another. We can all use a knife as a tool in the kitchen, but at any time it can become a weapon.
If Nick Szabo or Hal Finney acted here as speakers in the reputation section, they would never be able to code and participate in the development of the military-technical cooperation because they would leave all their energy and benefit here. I'm trying to convey just one point to you. The overwhelming minority of people who actually do something useful for the community take part in reputation wars. These are fanatics, they are interested in completely different things and they are certainly very useful for the community. In the end, it was thanks to such cypherpunk fanatics that BTC was born. Thanks to them for this.

In any system there are parasites and scammers who try to take advantage of the system created by other people only for their own benefit while deceiving other members of the community. They definitely need to be identified and expelled from the community.

You are obviously trying to protect this gentleman and not find the truth. First, you are trying to say that the offensive manner of behavior is not commonplace for this subject. Now you are trying to say that he should not be a model on the forum. Well, I agree with your second statement. But you have already shown your bias. There is no point in further explaining or proving anything to you.

I am one of the few who remain on this forum from a Russian-speaking locale. This is my personal opinion and I expressed it in relation to this gentleman. I came to this forum in 2017 to communicate about the exchange of ideas and not to sort things out.

Only the community can decide whether a given subject is useful for the community or not. But since he attracted so much attention to the search for justice, his actions and benefits should be fairly considered in this forum. "Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you." Matthew 7:1-3

I'm not going to argue with you or prove anything to you. I have my own independent opinion about everything that is happening.

If it weren’t for people like Ratimov with his endless zeal to clear the forum from all sorts of abusers, the forum would have long ago turned into a kind of dump where people with 10-20 accounts communicate, who communicate with each other only for the sake of profit. At least in the Russian-speaking locale such farms have been identified.

You still haven’t answered my question - which of the useful members of the forum left because of him, and I’m sure you’ll never answer, because... in fact, most of the useful members of the forum left before he registered on the forum, and the reason is not his fault, but the signature campaigns, which led to the cluttering of the forum with meaningless posts.
legendary
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November 08, 2023, 05:36:51 AM
Has anyone noticed the only response that Ratimov made on this thread was also deleted?
Archive link: https://ninjastic.space/post/63039745

His start was nice though, the card of playing a victim. It's a long post but here was the start.

Quote
Now there will be a big wall of text, sorry:

I have always been amused by this feature of offended people: after they start writing me some absurd accusations, and after that they receive an answer from me, they immediately begin to pretend to be a victim who is attacked.

- Merit abuse by merit source in the Russian local - Here I apparently attacked Zuzma.
- Merit Source - Plagiarist - Here I apparently attacked airfinex.
- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55770640 - Here I apparently attacked nullius.
- CPM right now, right here. - Here I apparently attacked wooI_Ioow.
- Ratimov plagiarizer and now trust abuser - Here I apparently attacked ScumBuster.
- Announce your rank up, merit or any achievements that makes you feel great! - Here I apparently attacked BitcoinGirl.Club.

I constantly attack someone, I just have nothing to do on the forum, I go and attack. It’s funny that in all these cases I was always in the position of responding to the claims, but I am certainly the attacker, and the one who is trying to accuse me is simply a victim of Ratimov’s latest attacks and persecution. Horrible.

@TryNinja, we need the next version of Ninjastic.space where we can copy the BBcode of an archive. Is it doable?
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