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Topic: Should Ratimov aka Symmetrick be in DT1? - page 11. (Read 9821 times)

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November 18, 2023, 05:21:43 AM
@Vod, are you trolling this trust abuser nazi? I have first hand experience, if he fails to continue an argument he will immediately resort to finding something on you just to tag you, be careful.

Forum rule no. 3, No trolling.
So you suggesting Vod to be careful of 1miau? I don't know why, but I had a feeling that do not deserve that many tags, but why do you want to prove me (or whoever thinks) wrong? You are writing off-topic things here. Surely, Vod is not trolling him. He just had a feeling that the text seemed so accurate which AI does and he just decided to post it. 1miau responded as well, and I do not see any conflict between them. But you are the one who is poking 1miau and want to fuel it. LOL
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November 17, 2023, 10:48:41 PM
1miau, a lot of non-english speakers want to be on this forum and pretend to be english speakers.    Lips sealed   They can generate intelligent text in their language, edit and translate.   

I'm not saying in any way that is what happened here - I'm just pointing out it is a possibility that shouldn't be dismissed as easily as you did.
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November 17, 2023, 09:47:47 PM
@Vod, are you trolling this trust abuser nazi? I have first hand experience, if he fails to continue an argument he will immediately resort to finding something on you just to tag you, be careful.

The same could be said for most of the trust abusers, since we are talking about people on DT1, and their problem is that they are not capable of discussing or win a discussion, hence they resort to the one thing that is in their advantage, the only thing that gives them any sort of power, DT tag.  Otherwise we can see so many legit people argue over many things and sometimes they fail to prove their points, if they all wanted to get back at the other person by either bullying, attacking etc, no one could stay alive. That's why it's better to isolate such abusers from the community to prevent spreading the virus.😉
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November 17, 2023, 09:02:30 PM
It seems that human wrote the text after all  Wink

I did mention editing... Wink
Does it make any sense for me
- to ask Chat GPT a simple question to create the text by AI
- to edit it a little bit
- finally post it here
?
Doesn't make sense at all.  Huh
How much time would be saved? Little to nothing...
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November 17, 2023, 08:31:31 PM
It seems that human wrote the text after all  Wink

I did mention editing... Wink
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November 17, 2023, 07:15:38 PM
I would say that this new evidence is of extraordinary importance to find out, if there are archives about it. As always, we should investigate all the details to get the full picture here. I believe it's very important for the community to investigate these cases in full detail that the community can have the full picture and decide according to that. The best decision can be made, when all the details are on the table. 
Is this an edited AI text?   It sounds very familiar.   Undecided
Huh Huh

Seriously?
And I thought my English is bad.  Cheesy





talking like a street thug etc.
Wouldn't surprise me because as usual, everyone needs to practice somewhere.  Cheesy
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November 17, 2023, 05:43:26 AM
I am retiring from the thread and anything related to Ratimov for sometimes. Thanks for having me.

This is the right choice. At this moment, after everything, it seems almost impossible for Ratimov to return to DT. So, this thread has achieved its purpose, everything else is just repeating what has already been said.

I would say that this new evidence is of extraordinary importance to find out, if there are archives about it. As always, we should investigate all the details to get the full picture here. I believe it's very important for the community to investigate these cases in full detail that the community can have the full picture and decide according to that. The best decision can be made, when all the details are on the table. 

Is this an edited AI text?   It sounds very familiar.   Undecided

It seems that human wrote the text after all  Wink
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November 17, 2023, 04:02:28 AM
I am not such type of person too who can bring every piece of the puzzle together. OP did very well in this case.

Thank you, BitcoinGirl.Club!

I think let's not continue to this case anymore. Ratimov has been exposed very well.
I would say that this new evidence is of extraordinary importance to find out, if there are archives about it. As always, we should investigate all the details to get the full picture here.

I also share 1miau's opinion here... I suspected Ratimov for a long time for doing in Russian board some things even worst than the ones already known about him (plagiarism, copy-paste dozens of essays, feedback extortion, Trust abuse, merit abuse, building an army of minions, talking like a street thug etc.). But I would not think that he can make death threats. If this is the case, probably this will end his activity on this forum. It is crucial to find out if there exist such archives, proving Kingf1sher's allegation.

However, by reading again this feedback he left a while ago, the surprise would not be too big anymore...

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A fuckhead with a broken head. After being raped by all the WEX employees, taking all his mother's money [...]
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November 17, 2023, 01:22:57 AM
I would say that this new evidence is of extraordinary importance to find out, if there are archives about it. As always, we should investigate all the details to get the full picture here. I believe it's very important for the community to investigate these cases in full detail that the community can have the full picture and decide according to that. The best decision can be made, when all the details are on the table. 

Is this an edited AI text?   It sounds very familiar.   Undecided
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November 16, 2023, 07:14:54 PM
Kingf1sher if this is true, I insist on finding those archives. Can you search them, please?

At same time, if you can, please share this topic in Russian local board as well. And, of course, add Ratimov to your distrust list.
I think let's not continue to this case anymore. Ratimov has been exposed very well.
I would say that this new evidence is of extraordinary importance to find out, if there are archives about it. As always, we should investigate all the details to get the full picture here. I believe it's very important for the community to investigate these cases in full detail that the community can have the full picture and decide according to that. The best decision can be made, when all the details are on the table. 
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November 16, 2023, 02:08:50 PM
I have nothing against Ratimov, I don’t want to get involved in any drama but perhaps he’s not the man I thought he was sadly so I stand by my removing of him from my trust list.
It's not your fault brother, you were manipulated like many of the forum members. I was active against his wrongs from long time but never felt the urge to bring everything together like the OP did. I am not such type of person too who can bring every piece of the puzzle together. OP did very well in this case.

Kingf1sher if this is true, I insist on finding those archives. Can you search them, please?

At same time, if you can, please share this topic in Russian local board as well. And, of course, add Ratimov to your distrust list.
I think let's not continue to this case anymore. Ratimov has been exposed very well. Moderator, any members who were trusting him or backing him to allow his evil things were simply manipulated. They never thought they were being used. It's not their fault anymore. Let's leave them.

I am retiring from the thread and anything related to Ratimov for sometimes. Thanks for having me.
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November 16, 2023, 01:49:46 PM
maybe it’s worth reminding the person who likes to crunch their nose how the moderators covered for him when he threatened me with physical harm?
he once told me that he wanted to break my nose when we met, but instead of being banned, he now continues to intimidate us with negative feedback)
if he says that this is not so, I will try to find these threats in my archives) There will be many questions about whether Russian moderators were covering for him.. and if I’m not mistaken, he also tried to defend Ratimov then

Kingf1sher if this is true, I insist on finding those archives. Can you search them, please?

At same time, if you can, please share this topic in Russian local board as well. And, of course, add Ratimov to your distrust list.
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November 16, 2023, 01:46:02 PM
For all these actions you can quite realistically get a negative feedback, with proof in the form of attached archive on this topic and it will be on all recommendations of the administrator of this forum.
What is it? Why can't we do without intimidation again)

3. Don't you think that saying that Russian-speaking moderators cover for Ratimov without any evidence is slander?



"You're just thinking wishfully" Wink

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and yes, maybe it’s worth reminding the person who likes to crunch their nose how the moderators covered for him when he threatened me with physical harm?
he once told me that he wanted to break my nose when we met, but instead of being banned, he now continues to intimidate us with negative feedback)
if he says that this is not so, I will try to find these threats in my archives) There will be many questions about whether Russian moderators were covering for him.. and if I’m not mistaken, he also tried to defend Ratimov then..
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November 16, 2023, 07:22:52 AM
This topic really needs to continue hence this bump.

I would like to hear opinion from the following members. mprep, wwzsocki, LFC_Bitcoin, klarki, The Sceptical Chymist, DarkStar_, Hhampuz, imhoneer, CryptopreneurBrainboss, Xal0lex, Best_Change, andy_pelevin , KTChampions, Coin-1, Bitcoin_Arena, tranthidung, tvplus006, dkbit98, witcher_sense, DdmrDdmr, madnessteat, 1miau, FontSeli, YOSHIE, jokers10, zasad@, bullrun2020bro, light_warrior.

These are the people who Ratimov trust in his trust list. I will yet to see which of these already had their opinion in this topic [will mark it later] but most of these members either are not aware of this topic or ignoring the topic because one of their vote may reduce if they give an opinion and if goes against Ratimov. I really hope that's not the case. If it is not, then I would like your opinion [Please read the first topic carefully and make a response. Let's hope Ratimov was not using you all too as he was using the local moderators to achieve his evil goal].

I have been aware of this topic for some time but chose not to get involved as I very rarely venture into these type of things these days. It’s just not something that I want to spend my time doing these days.

However, I will clarify my position on the topic here:

I have had a good relationship with Ratimov over the years, we have exchanged PM’s many times and he was indeed on my trust list for a long time.

The plagiarism accusations didn’t bother me too much. I think it’s far too heavily enforced on the forum. What he was doing was perhaps a little under-hand but he took pride in getting a lot of Merit and being liked on the forum so whatever.

After seeing the threats, his incorrect use of leaving trust comments, abusive private messages to others and drama he was getting involved in I decided to remove him from my trust list. I saw that a week or so after he retaliated by returning the favour.

I have nothing against Ratimov, I don’t want to get involved in any drama but perhaps he’s not the man I thought he was sadly so I stand by my removing of him from my trust list.

This is the only post I will make on this topic.
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November 15, 2023, 06:54:28 AM
Man, you are relentless and when you are fixated on something, you won't let go till you get what you want. I LIKE THAT!
I think the reason as to why everybody dislike Ratimov is because of mr. Smith in his avatar, we all hated him with those sun glasses. I'm not kidding, this is a science of it's own.

You can try it by making a mask of the one person you hate the most and put it on your spouse's face, you will see how can that change love into hatred. Just don't do it during bed time. You'd get mixed feelings and might fall in love with your enemy.😅

Cases like this tend to happen over and over again, this is because we give some people so much credit and when they act in a way unexpected for us, we'd feel disappointed and even resent ourselves for being so gullible believing someone like that,  it's called idolization. So pick your heroes more wisely. 😉😘
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November 15, 2023, 03:52:53 AM
I'm interested in why the threads that Ratimov cleaned of their content are not deleted. As far as I can see, they are all still there, although they are now useless. I was reported to the moderator by one of those, but I see that the ad is still unhandled.
The whole point was Ratimov using this same whole to clean up his mess, reporting the empty topics and allowing mods to delete the entire topic. Theymos later restored the topics.

Ratimov is doing such things means he is spamming the forum. When someone spam the forum the reward for them is a ban. We have 7 days, 2 weeks and then permanent ban I think. If he continues the same then he should be warned about it and if he still keeps doing that then he should be banned permanently.

Right now all these topics looks spam threads with so many merits wasted.
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November 14, 2023, 02:20:28 PM
...if we had a feature where we could report such topics or posts to administrator [not mod] to reverse the merits. The goal for merit system is to appreciate good posts, not the empty posts...
I think there was a similar discussion, it was about merit farmers and resellers, where posts were deleted to reduce the possibility of recognition of giving credit for meaningless posts between alt accounts...

This could be good and simple solution to reverse or remove all merits if topic or merited post was deleted
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November 13, 2023, 01:55:00 PM
I assume the Merits are still counted on Ratimov's account.
Is there any way we can check that precisely?
No. Theymos' Merit data dump only covers the last 120 days. I assume the Merit wasn't deleted though: that just doesn't happen when a post gets deleted. And restoring as Guest probably didn't change anything either.
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November 13, 2023, 01:40:53 PM
Day after day, more and more (DT1) users distrust Ratimov or stop trusting him:



Thank you klarki, wwzsocki, witcher_sense, vaporminer and Bitcoin_Arena for your involvement!

Somehow, all these remind me of The-Devil's decay. How many remember "The-Devil incident"? Perhaps Ratimov can now say the same words The-Devil said back then:

Today my account has been converted to hell.

At the moment, Ratimov is still trusted by 50 users, from which 8 are DT1: Charles-Tim, YOSHIE, madnessteat, Coin-1, KTChampions, imhoneer, tmfp and Balthazar. I hope that soon more of them will involve as well on this matter.



I assume the Merits are still counted on Ratimov's account.

Is there any way we can check that precisely?



perhaps another hole for Ratimov to get more merits [LOL].

As I said above,

We can expect anything from this Ratimov. Including to write again all his topics, for earning some more thousands of merits.

Just a thought, wouldn't it be fair if we had a feature where we could report such topics or posts to administrator [not mod] to reverse the merits. The goal for merit system is to appreciate good posts, not the empty posts. If it was one or two which happened accidentally then it seemed fine but when a user constantly is trying to remove his contents but keeping the merits earned by these contents then it become weird.

I believe we can do this in Meta. I had a similar thought regarding Ratimov's Merit source status which, at the moment, is a mockery. He deleted his Merit Source application and this shows that he does not give a damn for the topic which helped him achieve a substantial part of his power.

So I think there should be a topic started in Meta addressing the issue regarding merits for his garbage posts and also the fact that a Merit Source does not have an adequate behavior regarding his position. BitcoinGirl.Club, if you find all these feasible, would you start such topic in Meta? I am asking you since you already started one more topic regarding the way Ratimov turned Russian mods into his personal garbage men.
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November 13, 2023, 09:21:48 AM
I'm interested in why the threads that Ratimov cleaned of their content are not deleted. As far as I can see, they are all still there, although they are now useless. I was reported to the moderator by one of those, but I see that the ad is still unhandled.
Actually his threads were deleted, but theymos restore it and he think it's incorrect for the moderator to delete his threads.

Though the thread has no content, but the discussion has a weight that shouldn't be deleted.

I see no evidence of misconduct, though it was incorrect to delete topics with substantial replies. All of the deleted topics with replies have been restored to Archival.
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