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legendary
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September 19, 2022, 08:53:50 AM
It's been a while since someone decided to play. I will add your HWs to the list.
You only shared that one picture, but judging by the casings, they seem to be in good condition. I see something that looks like color residue or ink on the "Z" and "R" characters on the Trezor. How long have you had them and have you had any issues with the devices?

When you say "manage crypto" are we talking about day-to-day operations or what does that mean to you?
I hope the seeds are unique on each HW.  Grin

How would they do in a head-to-head battle? What do you like with the Trezor that you don't like with the Ledger and vice versa?
copper member
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September 19, 2022, 08:40:53 AM
I just saw this thread from this post, and I would like to show off mine. One Ledger X and One Trezor Model T



I wanted to try these two popular wallets because they have different purposes for me. One is for managing crypto, and the other is for HODLing only. Guess which one is which  Tongue
legendary
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July 15, 2022, 04:07:06 AM
Thanks for taking part and showing us your hardware wallets. It's been a long time since someone did. Smiley
You mentioned your USB flash drives a few times. Have you by any chance stored your recovery phrase on these drives, and are those digital copies the only backups you have of your seed? Have you made proper physical backups on paper?
Yes! Recovery phrases are on those USB flash drives, I have multiple and I spread it on those sticks. I also added a layer of password that I myself only knew so that even if someone finds my usb flash drive, They can't access the seed/recovery phrases that easily. I have paper backup bundled on those flash drives I can access it incase I got into an accident that makes fall into amnesia. My instructions are designed to myself. I know I'm a bit tricky on my wallets but it's what I am.

I can say that I'm ready whenever a fire got into my house, If ever I got an amnesia, be victimized by a robbery or have floods in my house.
legendary
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July 15, 2022, 03:37:02 AM
Thanks for taking part and showing us your hardware wallets. It's been a long time since someone did. Smiley
You mentioned your USB flash drives a few times. Have you by any chance stored your recovery phrase on these drives, and are those digital copies the only backups you have of your seed? Have you made proper physical backups on paper?
legendary
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July 15, 2022, 02:00:20 AM
#99
I'm a little bit late but yeah I have these few devices which consist of 1 ledger nano S, 1 Trezor one, couple of flashdrives.

I got my Ledger Nano S around 2017 as far as I remember, I acquired it from my friend who is a reseller of ledger in my country before. This is were I store majority of my bitcoins, There's no problem encountered in the past except for the physical connection because of the age of included cable.

I acquired the Trezor one during 2021 bull run, It was pretty new honestly. Plastic is still intact. I stored most of my altcoins here that I decided to keep for long term. This also become my wallet for NFT games such as axie infinity.

and I have couple of flashdrives, I have more actually. It's stored in safe places I know so if there's anything happened to my house like having my house burned on fire or robbery I will still have my keys on me.

One reason I bought another wallet (trezor one) is because of the insufficient memory capacity of my ledger nano S. I find it hard to store multiple coins in a single hardware wallet so I decided to buy Trezor one.

legendary
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July 11, 2022, 08:36:08 AM
#98
...and the S Plus is twice as cheap.

I paid about $90 for the X, and the S Plus is now about $80, so in retrospect, I don't think I did a bad job when I bought it at 35% off. I considered it a long-term investment in security, and I still think it's a very good device, although I would have acted differently if I had known how careless Ledger is with its users' data.
legendary
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July 11, 2022, 07:18:13 AM
#97
Considering that only a few users have posted so far, perhaps it's time to find them from other threads
I agree with you on this, we have five pages talking mostly about things that have nothing to do with hardware wallet showing-off, and Pmalek just revived it with one more unrelated old news post, I guess that is a skill also Cheesy
legendary
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July 11, 2022, 06:19:39 AM
#96
Given that I own both models (S&X), I can say that the X is a much better device for me personally because it has a much larger screen, storage that does not limit the user with the number of installed apps or the size of the new firmware, and better quality construction compared to the S. If you had the chance to try it, I believe you would change your mind.
I have never had issues with the build quality of my Nano S. It's obviously cheap and could break easily, but just be careful with it. I don't hold my kid's hand the same way I hold a dumbbell. I don't cut salami the way I chop wood. You just adapt to the situation and apply different pressures. Would be good if the old Nano S could cope with at least 4-5 apps at the same time, but it's such a simple process to switch it up that it isn't worth mentioning.

Looking at a head2head between a Nano S Plus and the Nano X, they both have the memory to store the same amount of apps at the same time, they have the same display size, similar ST33 chips (maybe dkbit98 has more info about the differences between a ST33K1M5 and a ST33J2M0), with the Nano S Plus missing Bluetooth support and a battery, and the S Plus is twice as cheap.
legendary
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July 11, 2022, 05:31:46 AM
#95
I would never go for the Nano X over the older Nano S. Looking at how good my Nano S has served me in all these years, I didn't make a mistake when I bought it.

Given that I own both models (S&X), I can say that the X is a much better device for me personally because it has a much larger screen, storage that does not limit the user with the number of installed apps or the size of the new firmware, and better quality construction compared to the S. If you had the chance to try it, I believe you would change your mind.

I was never a fan of the Nano Xs Bluetooth feature or the battery and we can see the problems the battery has caused with the latest batches. The Nano S Plus seems better to me than the X if it weren't for the missing support for a whole bunch of assets. Not that I need that support because I have very few altcoins, but just the idea that they forgot to add it or didn't do it intentionally to be able to release it as soon as possible, gives me a bad feeling and makes me question what else they might have forgotten or intentionally left out? 

The Bluetooth option is anyway only for those who want to use HW on the go in combination with a smartphone and does not represent any security or any other problem for those who use the X in a classic way - while I never had any problems with the battery. I can't say anything specific about the S Plus because I'm honestly not interested, but it's just an upgraded version of the S and I honestly doubt it's better than the X in any way.
legendary
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July 11, 2022, 05:05:57 AM
#94
will include an NFT of some sort. Roll Eyes
and for this it is trying to stimulate buyers with the help of nft bonus.
I have limited knowledge in regards to NFTs as a whole, but IIRC, the POAP NFT that came with the genesis edition of the S Plus had restrictions or rather wasn't made to be like a regular NFT, so I think the same would probably apply to this one as well [I don't think they'll be able to easily sell it]!

The Nano S Plus seems better to me than the X if it weren't for the missing support for a whole bunch of assets.
I agree with you... Even though "they've fixed most of it", I'm still surprised to see a couple of apps are still missing after roughly 4 months!

Considering that only a few users have posted so far, perhaps it's time to find them from other threads:

e.g.
legendary
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July 10, 2022, 03:07:51 PM
#93
The company decided to get rid of the last copies of this model as soon as possible, and for this it is trying to stimulate buyers with the help of nft bonus. Otherwise, no one would have bought them, because there are updated models.
I would never go for the Nano X over the older Nano S. Looking at how good my Nano S has served me in all these years, I didn't make a mistake when I bought it. There is the regret of having some of my data leaked together with my friend who received the package, but Ledger isn't the first nor the last company that will be affected with something like that because of negligence.

I was never a fan of the Nano Xs Bluetooth feature or the battery and we can see the problems the battery has caused with the latest batches. The Nano S Plus seems better to me than the X if it weren't for the missing support for a whole bunch of assets. Not that I need that support because I have very few altcoins, but just the idea that they forgot to add it or didn't do it intentionally to be able to release it as soon as possible, gives me a bad feeling and makes me question what else they might have forgotten or intentionally left out? 
legendary
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July 10, 2022, 02:15:04 PM
#92
Wasn't sure where to post it, so I will just briefly mention it here.
Probably in one of the topics dedicated to Nano S, like Why I wouldn't buy Ledger Nano S ever again? - info about the last 10.000 devices here would put a bullet point so as not to buy it.

The official Ledger website is now calling their Ledger Nano S the Ledger Nano S: Final Edition. I am not sure when this was changed, I just noticed it now. Sorry, if it was mentioned already. Anyway, it's the end of production and the last 10.000 devices will include an NFT of some sort. Roll Eyes

There are a few pictures of this digital collection on https://shop.ledger.com/products/ledger-nano-s-final-edition.
Doesn't seem appealing to me, but I guess every product has its buyer. Hopefully, they won't drop support for the Nano S after a few months.

The company decided to get rid of the last copies of this model as soon as possible, and for this it is trying to stimulate buyers with the help of nft bonus. Otherwise, no one would have bought them, because there are updated models.
legendary
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July 10, 2022, 03:40:21 AM
#91
Wasn't sure where to post it, so I will just briefly mention it here.

The official Ledger website is now calling their Ledger Nano S the Ledger Nano S: Final Edition. I am not sure when this was changed, I just noticed it now. Sorry, if it was mentioned already. Anyway, it's the end of production and the last 10.000 devices will include an NFT of some sort. Roll Eyes

There are a few pictures of this digital collection on https://shop.ledger.com/products/ledger-nano-s-final-edition.
Doesn't seem appealing to me, but I guess every product has its buyer. Hopefully, they won't drop support for the Nano S after a few months.
legendary
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June 22, 2022, 04:27:17 AM
#90
You actually need the buttons quite often. You need them to setup and verify your PIN and seed words. Every time you want to unlock the wallet, you use the buttons to find the correct PIN numbers. To interact with a particular cryptocurrency, you have to open the associated app on your hardware wallet. As you mentioned, the buttons are used to verify addresses, amounts, fees, etc. You also need them for settings changes, display configuration, creating a passphrases... 
Well, yeah, you're right, actually buttons is used often.

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I don't mind the screen size either. A lot of people seem to be displeased with it. But if you think about it, it's much easier having your address divided in 3 parts when you verify it. The address is a string of random letters and numbers. It's not a logical sequence of characters you can remember whether or not you see the whole thing or a 3rd of it. I find it easier to see one string and verify it's identical to what is shown on Ledger Live, and then move on to the 2nd and 3rd one. 
I'm one of these people who don't like that address is divided into 3 parts and doesn't fits in single screen. But you have good point that's easier to verify it when it's divided into 3 parts.
legendary
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June 21, 2022, 03:38:41 AM
#89
In general, you won't use button that much, it's only needed to verify your actions.
You actually need the buttons quite often. You need them to setup and verify your PIN and seed words. Every time you want to unlock the wallet, you use the buttons to find the correct PIN numbers. To interact with a particular cryptocurrency, you have to open the associated app on your hardware wallet. As you mentioned, the buttons are used to verify addresses, amounts, fees, etc. You also need them for settings changes, display configuration, creating a passphrases... 

About screen size is optimal I think, it's not touch screen.
I don't mind the screen size either. A lot of people seem to be displeased with it. But if you think about it, it's much easier having your address divided in 3 parts when you verify it. The address is a string of random letters and numbers. It's not a logical sequence of characters you can remember whether or not you see the whole thing or a 3rd of it. I find it easier to see one string and verify it's identical to what is shown on Ledger Live, and then move on to the 2nd and 3rd one. 
legendary
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June 20, 2022, 04:52:31 PM
#88
The question here is, how do you operate this device for transactions when there is no button? and the screen is not big enough to operate as screen touch. I am only seeing flash drive. Tell me more.
As Pmalek show above, there is buttons on wallet. In general, you won't use button that much, it's only needed to verify your actions. About screen size is optimal I think, it's not touch screen. But another question is quality of that screen.
legendary
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June 18, 2022, 01:48:12 AM
#87
The question here is, how do you operate this device for transactions when there is no button? and the screen is not big enough to operate as screen touch. I am only seeing flash drive. Tell me more.
There are two buttons on the Ledger Nano S. Do you see those two black things popping out in the first first picture? Look closely at the top of the casing. Those are the buttons. You use them to navigate around the interface, open/close different menus, confirm transactions, etc.

They are easier to see on this picture for example:
legendary
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June 18, 2022, 01:13:01 AM
#86
Many of us here use different hardware wallets, so I thought it might be interesting to know what everyone has and why. We could display our devices here, comment on their built quality, and check the conditions they are in.

If you are up for it, take a couple of pictures, tell us when and why you bought your device, and show us its current condition. I will make a table in the second post of the thread to link to all the Bitcointalk community's hardware wallets.


Let me begin.
I have a Ledger Nano S that I purchased back in 2017/2018. Unfortunately, I am awful with dates and numbers, so I don’t remember exactly when. I hesitated whether I should purchase a Ledger or a Trezor device but opted to go for the Nano S in the end. I bought it at a discount, and I am pretty happy with it.

I got parts of my personal data leaked in the infamous Ledger and Shopify incident, which was a negative experience.

You can see a few pictures below. The outside cover has taken a little bit of damage throughout the years, but nothing significant. Some of that is just dust and dirt.




There is no damage or scratches on the screen or the plastic casing.




Regarding the other contents of the original box, I am only using the data cable on a regular basis. As you can see, I haven’t even removed the foil from the USB head. Grin




Show us what you are using!

The question here is, how do you operate this device for transactions when there is no button? and the screen is not big enough to operate as screen touch. I am only seeing flash drive. Tell me more.
hero member
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May 28, 2022, 03:36:22 AM
#85
It's worth pointing out though that even Trezor is considering not making everything completely open-source. I guess they understand it might be dangerous or too revealing. They have stated in their press releases/documentation that the chip will be as open-source as possible.
I'm not sure if security by obscurity is the reason for that, as I find it a severly flawed concept for sustained security. I haven't read everything that Trezor published regarding their open-source SE, but when it's available I'd really want to see exactly why something needs to be kept hidden if the SE isn't fully open-source.

Well, we'll have to wait and see if their SE can tick all desired boxes and proves to be a good piece of silicon to use and is as secure as desired. Time will tell. (I'm impatient, though.)
legendary
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May 28, 2022, 02:17:02 AM
#84
If you use an open-source secure element though, you can[it's not that easy, though] verify that it's not malicious and has no backdoor. Trezor appears to be working on such a chip currently.
I think it's going to be great for the entire hardware wallet industry once it finally comes out. Not just the version that Trezor and Topic Square bring out, but each subsequent one that will get worked on and improved by other development teams based on the open-source codebase. It's worth pointing out though that even Trezor is considering not making everything completely open-source. I guess they understand it might be dangerous or too revealing. They have stated in their press releases/documentation that the chip will be as open-source as possible. People seem to constantly forget about these two underlined words that can make a big difference.
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