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Quote from: buwaytress on November 09, 2024, 02:30:43 PM

Pep must be melting inside. He said it so many times over the past seasons that they were in an injury crisis I think they really did start to believe in it and play like it. Subbing KdB in late also doesn't help anymore -- in fact, 9 minutes after he came on the lead they were trying to protect evaporated.

Who else is enjoying this blue meltdown? Haaland's on my FPL but I cheered on that final playground tustle yellow. Haha. Such a big shame we'll only get to meet them 3 weeks from now. Plenty of time for them to reboot, recover, and trounce Spurs.

P.S. City always do falter early season, so this isn't a surprise. Just perhaps been such a long time since I saw them lose 4 games on the trot. I don't think it's ever happened in Pep's time, has it?

Grateful for that Halaand's goal, disappointed Welbeck wasn't on the score sheet - EPL benefits.

When is Pep getting sacked? This is unacceptable results!!! Why are City fans not calling for his resignation? ETH didn't even lose 4 games in a row did he?? He's not the man for the job Grin

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Pep must be melting inside. He said it so many times over the past seasons that they were in an injury crisis I think they really did start to believe in it and play like it. Subbing KdB in late also doesn't help anymore -- in fact, 9 minutes after he came on the lead they were trying to protect evaporated.

Who else is enjoying this blue meltdown? Haaland's on my FPL but I cheered on that final playground tustle yellow. Haha. Such a big shame we'll only get to meet them 3 weeks from now. Plenty of time for them to reboot, recover, and trounce Spurs.

P.S. City always do falter early season, so this isn't a surprise. Just perhaps been such a long time since I saw them lose 4 games on the trot. I don't think it's ever happened in Pep's time, has it?

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City game starting soon. Not in the best form currently and I am thinking Brihgton will like their chances to take them on at this exact moment. That will also leave some space for City so i am expecting a really good game here.

Snacks are prepared, beers are in the fridge ....

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We are portrayed as heavy favorites against Villa tonight, and no matter their offensive quality I feel it is a game that should suit us.
Villa is good, but their bench is short and they are already having issues with handling both Europe and PL.

This is the last game before the break, I feel we'll win it on energy alone if we have to.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on November 08, 2024, 08:15:16 AM

I think Liverpool really have momentum right now. Aston Villa are in a little bit of bad form, I’m hoping Liverpool punish them with a commanding win.

As Liverpool has full strength at Anfield, Bayern Leverkusen class was slaughtered with many scores without the opponent scoring, but this time Liverpool can win to be even more superior.

This match is in my time zone at midnight... early morning. Sad

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on November 08, 2024, 10:36:41 AM

On Man Utd, I really don’t know what to think about them. Since Ferguson they’ve spent so much money. They have repeatedly sacked coaches and replaced them with winners, who then go on to flop. Is it the pressure of managing United that makes them all underperform? Louis Van Gaal, Mourinho, Ten Haag are all multiple trophy winning managers. They go to Man Utd and flop. Is Amorim any different, time will tell.

It's hard to think about Man United... This team is like a curse where every great coach comes always fails, whether now Amorin comes whether he can bring glory again? This is still a speculation... Amorin's road record is quite good but keep in mind the Premier League competition is tight any great coach will find it difficult here.

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Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on November 08, 2024, 03:14:47 AM

Lets not forget that any small accomplishments that he achieve with United gets him more praises and that's good for his career.

It could also be the stain of their career. It pretty much works both ways. The previous managers that handled Manchester United all were left with a stain on their career. Mourinho the special one, not really a 'special' one anymore after handling Manchester United...

Amorim is one of the most sought manager in europe and he probably get alot of decent offers for his service yet he chose Manchester United, pretty weird but when money then its another issue. Besides that, taking the job on mid way is kinda risky especially that he needs to deal with the existing squad rather than players that he wants

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Quote from: Igebotz on November 07, 2024, 05:33:19 PM

It's funny how everyone ignored Bellingham after all he did last season while Vini was lying in the hospital; he single-handedly won the league, in my opinion.

Bellingham was brilliant last season and has been the one sacrificed this season to make room for Mbappe up front, really unfortunate.

Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on November 08, 2024, 03:14:47 AM

There's, especially when you were treated badly by the club, I don't feel mad when former players celebrate against their former club instead it should motivate the current players to do better. I see lots of ex Chelsea player scored against us when they play us. They mightnt be scoring but immediately they get to play against Chelsea they get to score and I wont be mad if they celebrate.

Exactly. Fans boo players a lot even when the player had never been disrespectful to them and clubs treat players like employees, but everyone expects players to have unwavering loyalty to former club and fans regardless of the situation around their exit. Football is also a game of emotions, except a player is sprinting the whole length of the field to celebrate in front of the Arsenal fans like Adebayor did, it is alright to appreciate a good goal you scored.

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on November 08, 2024, 10:36:41 AM

Aston Villa can be dangerous, they have pace and power on the break but I would expect 3 points for Slot’s Red Machine tomorrow. I’ll be disappointed if we don’t win.

Liverpool at Anfield are strong favorites to win as Villa are not very strong on the road as they are at Villa Park.

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Quote from: notblox1 on November 08, 2024, 09:39:56 AM

I am looking at H2H history for Liverpool and Aston Villa and many times we saw a lot of goals in their matches.
Liverpool is preforming very good in all competitions, I was surprised how easy they scored four goals against Leverkusen in Champions League.

Is Manchester United finally out of the crisis?
Strange to see that only two points separate them from Leicester not far from bottom of the table Grin

Aston Villa can be dangerous, they have pace and power on the break but I would expect 3 points for Slot’s Red Machine tomorrow. I’ll be disappointed if we don’t win.

On Man Utd, I really don’t know what to think about them. Since Ferguson they’ve spent so much money. They have repeatedly sacked coaches and replaced them with winners, who then go on to flop. Is it the pressure of managing United that makes them all underperform? Louis Van Gaal, Mourinho, Ten Haag are all multiple trophy winning managers. They go to Man Utd and flop. Is Amorim any different, time will tell.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on November 08, 2024, 08:15:16 AM

I think Liverpool really have momentum right now. Aston Villa are in a little bit of bad form, I’m hoping Liverpool punish them with a commanding win.

I am looking at H2H history for Liverpool and Aston Villa and many times we saw a lot of goals in their matches.
Liverpool is preforming very good in all competitions, I was surprised how easy they scored four goals against Leverkusen in Champions League.

Is Manchester United finally out of the crisis?
Strange to see that only two points separate them from Leicester not far from bottom of the table Grin

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Another big weekend of football and the three favourites for the title have tough games. Man City travel to Brighton, Arsenal have a difficult game against Chelsea away and Liverpool entertain Aston Villa at Anfield.

I think Liverpool really have momentum right now. Aston Villa are in a little bit of bad form, I’m hoping Liverpool punish them with a commanding win.

Arsenal could easily drop points away at Chelsea who are much better with Maresca. Man City won’t have it essy against Brighton either. Fingers crossed one of, if not both drop points and Liverpool pull further clear.

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Quote from: Igebotz on November 06, 2024, 10:54:23 AM

I'm still not sure why he's leaving Sporting Lisbon to join unstable Manutd, where he'll be fired in less than 18 months time. Is it for the money or for the ambition of managing in the EPL?

Once glimpsed reading the news that Amorin had been an assistant coach during the Mou era at Man United at that time he did not yet have a coaching license from EUFA.
Now that he is taking on the challenge of an unstable club, he may want to manage a club in the Premier League.
This will be a big PR for Amorin, at least Amorin's career at Braga and Sporting CP was never bad.

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Quote from: Igebotz on November 06, 2024, 10:54:23 AM

There's no justification for celebrating against former clubs and fans it's a pussy behavior and only few stupid players who knows no loyalty does it.

There's, especially when you were treated badly by the club, I don't feel mad when former players celebrate against their former club instead it should motivate the current players to do better. I see lots of ex Chelsea player scored against us when they play us. They mightnt be scoring but immediately they get to play against Chelsea they get to score and I wont be mad if they celebrate. Take someone like Osimhen that wasn't treated with respect at Napoli after everything he game to them and made them relevant again after winning them the Serie A, you want to tell me that he's a stupid player if he choose to celebrate scoring against them?

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I'm still not sure why he's leaving Sporting Lisbon to join unstable Manutd, where he'll be fired in less than 18 months time. Is it for the money or for the ambition of managing in the EPL?

For the money buddy, who isn't going to take that salary that United is offering and a future potential compensation when they pay you off to go for another manager after few years. Also, he'll be getting the publicity of the premier league and get to compete with some of the best managers in the business. Lets not forget that any small accomplishments that he achieve with United gets him more praises and that's good for his career.

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Quote from: un_rank on November 06, 2024, 11:54:33 AM

They said he was given an ultimatum, join now or never get the opportunity. He has probably scouted teams he will like to coach and did not see them sacking their managers at the end of this season, so he had to take the available opportunity.

A big boast for his career but the way Sporting Lisbon are playing, he was always going to get good offers in Europe, leaving a team in the middle of the season like that is not fair to the club and the fans, obviously he's leaving for the big bag and I hope he doesn't end up like ETH

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Vini does not actually have that many goals and assists, not world beating numbers. Anyone who won would have been deserving of the award.

It's funny how everyone ignored Bellingham after all he did last season while Vini was lying in the hospital; he single-handedly won the league, in my opinion.

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Quote from: Igebotz on November 06, 2024, 10:54:23 AM

I'm still not sure why he's leaving Sporting Lisbon to join unstable Manutd, where he'll be fired in less than 18 months time. Is it for the money or for the ambition of managing in the EPL?

They said he was given an ultimatum, join now or never get the opportunity. He has probably scouted teams he will like to coach and did not see them sacking their managers at the end of this season, so he had to take the available opportunity.

Quote from: Igebotz on November 06, 2024, 10:54:23 AM

I hope Vini understands how vital Rodri is to this Citeh team right now; football isn't just about goals and assists; you also need someone to make tackles and mark. This weekend, Citeh's misery could get even worse.

Vini does not actually have that many goals and assists, not world beating numbers. Anyone who won would have been deserving of the award.

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Quote from: un_rank on November 06, 2024, 10:07:23 AM

That was a beautiful goal and deserved the celebration tbh Grin

. He also appreciated the United fans afterwards still and has scored against them without celebrating which goes further to show that may have been in the spur of the moment.

There's no justification for celebrating against former clubs and fans it's a pussy behavior and only few stupid players who knows no loyalty does it.

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Amorim gave United an early present before he joins and I am sure a lot of their fans will be excited to see him take charge and bring his philosophy.
City face Brighton this weekend after 3 defeats consecutively in 3 different competitions, surely they cannot make it 4?

I'm still not sure why he's leaving Sporting Lisbon to join unstable Manutd, where he'll be fired in less than 18 months time. Is it for the money or for the ambition of managing in the EPL?

I hope Vini understands how vital Rodri is to this Citeh team right now; football isn't just about goals and assists; you also need someone to make tackles and mark. This weekend, Citeh's misery could get even worse.

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Quote from: Igebotz on November 05, 2024, 02:41:26 PM

This is Ronaldo celebrating against United, showing his abs to the fans https://youtu.be/ri6GyANMKFA?si=VSEeNgZzaxx1lvij now imagine Henry celebrating like that after scoring a banga against Arsenal.

That was a beautiful goal and deserved the celebration tbh Grin

. He also appreciated the United fans afterwards still and has scored against them without celebrating which goes further to show that may have been in the spur of the moment.

Amorim gave United an early present before he joins and I am sure a lot of their fans will be excited to see him take charge and bring his philosophy.
City face Brighton this weekend after 3 defeats consecutively in 3 different competitions, surely they cannot make it 4?

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Quote from: un_rank on November 05, 2024, 01:58:38 PM

The move to City was overstated by the media and I have not seen Ronaldo celebrate against United. Those two points does not show the does not appreciate the club and definitely ETH does not have the class of Ancelotti.

This is Ronaldo celebrating against United, showing his abs to the fans https://youtu.be/ri6GyANMKFA?si=VSEeNgZzaxx1lvij now imagine Henry celebrating like that after scoring a banga against Arsenal.

His move to City failed because City wanted a free transfer deal while Juventus insisted on €25m, dude was also offered to Chelsea before Clearlake Capital went against it. Todd Boehly wanted him. United was his last option.

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There is no guarantee that he did not try that, but he was treated too poorly from the start and the club chose to back the coach every time even though he was wrong a lot. De Gea also takes digs at him, and with the issue with Sancho, not only one player had an issue with his ego.

ETH is terrible at player management, without a doubt, but I prefer managers that don't shit to themselves - ETH obviously told Ronaldo that he wasn't in his plans; this happens all the time. I expected Ronaldo to be professional and move on. Both were wrong at some point

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Quote from: Igebotz on November 05, 2024, 01:51:43 PM

Legend who only signed for Manchester united after his move to Manchester city failed ?

Legend who celebrated a goal against united in front of Manchester united fans at old Trafford?

He does not appreciate the club, and everyone will not be like Ancelloti; he is a Real Madrid legend, not a Manchester United legend BTW.

The move to City was overstated by the media and I have not seen Ronaldo celebrate against United. Those two points does not show the does not appreciate the club and definitely ETH does not have the class of Ancelotti.

Quote from: Igebotz on November 05, 2024, 01:51:43 PM

What he said was nothing but the truth, but he said it to the wrong ears, which was the problem. Granting an interview to talk about how bald your employer is does not show respect. Go to his office and talk shit to his face and bang the door on your way out; that's how real men react at work when their boss is putting shit on them.

There is no guarantee that he did not try that, but he was treated too poorly from the start and the club chose to back the coach every time even though he was wrong a lot. De Gea also takes digs at him, and with the issue with Sancho, not only one player had an issue with his ego.

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Quote from: un_rank on November 05, 2024, 12:56:22 PM

Ronaldo certainly was and is bigger than ETH at the club.
In an interview last season, Ancelotti said he cannot ask Modric to warm up, except he is absolutely certain he is going to play, that's how you show respect to legends at a club. ETH had no clue how to manage big name players and was the one who actually put his ego above the club.

Legend who only signed for Manchester united after his move to Manchester city failed ?

Legend who celebrated a goal against united in front of Manchester united fans at old Trafford?

He does not appreciate the club, and everyone will not be like Ancelloti; he is a Real Madrid legend, not a Manchester United legend BTW.

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What shit did he say or rather what did he say that was factually wrong?
Go and read up how the club kind of did not believe him when he needed time to grieve.

What he said was nothing but the truth, but he said it to the wrong ears, which was the problem. Granting an interview to talk about how bald your employer is does not show respect. Go to his office and talk shit to his face and bang the door on your way out; that's how real men react at work when their boss is putting shit on them.

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Quote from: Igebotz on November 05, 2024, 12:14:53 PM

Got fired by his employer for nasty behaviour; it's standard practice; we shouldn't pretend as if ETH has the authority to fire a player; no player is bigger than the club or the manager; if he feels you should be substituted into the game in 90+ minutes, you have no say as long as they're paying your wage.

Ronaldo certainly was and is bigger than ETH at the club.
In an interview last season, Ancelotti said he cannot ask Modric to warm up, except he is absolutely certain he is going to play, that's how you show respect to legends at a club. ETH had no clue how to manage big name players and was the one who actually put his ego above the club.

Quote from: Igebotz on November 05, 2024, 12:14:53 PM

If you're my employee and you go around talking shit about my workplace, I'm going to fire you; if you have an issue, come to me first. Crazy how you brought his son's death into this...really?

What shit did he say or rather what did he say that was factually wrong?
Go and read up how the club kind of did not believe him when he needed time to grieve.

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